The Best Controller for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
  • GameCube Controller explained! Comparing Pro Controller VS Joy-Cons VS GameCube Controller for MK8DX on the Nintendo Switch. Explaining the advantages of motion glider, soft drifting, and shake tricking. This tutorial will guide you to picking the best controller for you in Mario Kart!
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    0:00 Answers
    0:46 Controllers
    2:26 Motion Glider
    6:03 Soft Drifting
    10:45 Shake Tricking
    11:37 Compatibility
    12:33 The Best Controller
    14:49 Doubled Inputs (Important)
    16:03 Avoid These Controllers (Important)
    17:03 Electrodrome Music
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  • @Shortcat321
    @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +688

    Just to have it organized, here's my process when I start the game with a GameCube controller:
    1. Turn on the Switch
    2. Open Mario Kart from the home screen, using the Joy-Cons, to disable doubled inputs - 14:49
    3. Reset my GameCube controller for soft drifting (you don't need to be on the calibration menu) - 7:24
    4. Enter a "worldwide" (me + 11 japanese players)
    5. Lose
    Gamecube Controller FAQ:
    Do I have to be on the calibration screen when resetting?
    - No, the calibration screen is weird. In fact I recommend resetting after Mario Kart has been opened. Just hold slightly up on the left stick, hold X+Y+Start for a few seconds, press A to reconnect the controller, and you're done! It all takes 5 seconds. If you really want to see the exact inputs, you can open the calibration screen afterwards
    How much should I hold the left stick upwards when resetting?
    - A very little amount; around 1-2 degrees or 1 millimeter. Every controller is slightly different, so if this does not get you fast mini-turbo charge speeds as described in the video, then hold the stick a bit higher when resetting.
    Do I have to reset the controller every time I play?
    - Yes, I reset at the start of every session. You have to reset your controller if it disconnects, or if your Switch goes to sleep or powers off. It only takes 5 seconds to reset
    Do I have to connect a controller with a motion sensor, to disable doubled inputs, every time I play?
    - No. In my experience, I only need to do this if the Switch powers off
    Can you spam the D-Pad to shake trick?
    - I have not found a way to simulate a shake trick on a gamecube controller, even with the D-Pad.
    Can any gamecube controller do the notch reset?
    - I can only confirm that official Nintendo gamecube controllers work (even old ones work)
    I have a different question!
    - Leave a new comment (not a reply comment) on this video. I check this comment section frequently and will probably be able to help you!

    • @Thebungus765
      @Thebungus765 Před 4 měsíci +40

      I just thought maybe you can use the nintendo switch sports soccer strap with a joycon in it. If you strap it to your foot maybe you can shake trick. I don't have the gamecube controller to test it, but I thought it'd be cool if it works.

    • @Thebungus765
      @Thebungus765 Před 4 měsíci +20

      Oh wait I just thought about it some more and the motion controls would mess that up.

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +60

      Wow that would be crazy if we were kicking to trick 👀

    • @aaronpetralba7444
      @aaronpetralba7444 Před 4 měsíci +13

      Steps 4&5 are optional right?

    • @isaiahkepner8078
      @isaiahkepner8078 Před 4 měsíci +12

      Step 4 is why I play regional😂

  • @PavelR1
    @PavelR1 Před 4 měsíci +662

    I just love how you show an optimal technique working amazingly and then get mario karted anyway, comedic gold

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +126

      Toadette had a HARD life in the max acceleration video

    • @staceyking4904
      @staceyking4904 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Do ugliest combos next shortcat
      plz

    • @maildaemon
      @maildaemon Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@Shortcat321 I'd love for you to play Isabelle! I know she has the same stats but instead of going for max accel you could use her signature combo. It's so cute :>

    • @kingworldadventures
      @kingworldadventures Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@maildaemonW

    • @user-qy8rx3mu7g
      @user-qy8rx3mu7g Před měsícem +1

      ​@@Shortcat321Does shake trick work with motion steering off?

  • @slickity
    @slickity Před 4 měsíci +453

    4:32 “the game does not pause online” oh yeah? Tell that to my mom

    • @CHERRY_ED
      @CHERRY_ED Před 3 měsíci +5

      LOL

    • @EliteGamesEG
      @EliteGamesEG Před 3 měsíci +8

      -My dad wants me to take out the trash-
      Me: I can't pause the game it's an online game
      My Dad: Gimme that controller!! I'll find the pause to it!
      -My dad takes the controller-
      -Game freezes-
      -Voice chat goes crazy-

    • @chocov1233
      @chocov1233 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@EliteGamesEGThat made me laugh.

  • @JKonasss
    @JKonasss Před 4 měsíci +249

    Seeing you use motion controls all the time made me think you were just the GOAT. I was inspired me to start playing with motion controls all the time for motion gliders and got pretty decent at keeping my controller still during normal gameplay. But now I'm learning that IT'S ALL A LIE 😭😭😭

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +109

      HAHAHAHAHA this was my evil plan

    • @PaulMenden5659
      @PaulMenden5659 Před 4 měsíci +9

      OMG same here!

    • @tokothegecko
      @tokothegecko Před 4 měsíci +10

      The bad ending

    • @daanouwehand2268
      @daanouwehand2268 Před měsícem

      For me as a motion control main with a pro controller currently, which one is better for me?

    • @bransonsharp2488
      @bransonsharp2488 Před měsícem +1

      Bro for reals!! I got so good at holding myself DEAD stable so I could be as good as these guys!! WE COULD HAVE HAD IT OFF WHILE DRIVING AHHH!!

  • @tsncrpntr
    @tsncrpntr Před 4 měsíci +257

    I had a project for one of my computer science classes where I had to make something with a raspberry Pi and a bunch of sensors. So of course, I built a controller for MK8D. I used PVC pipes to build a set of handlebars, an accelerometer to tell what angle the wheel was pointed at, a tilt sensor for a throttle, and buttons for everything else. Hooked everything up to mart1nro’s Joycontrol code, and bam. Best project I’ve ever done.

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +74

      Sounds amazing! You should try to set a world record with it

    • @user-sm1ci1vn9k
      @user-sm1ci1vn9k Před 4 měsíci +6

      that’s so cool!

    • @JosefTBB
      @JosefTBB Před 4 měsíci +8

      Make a video on it.

    • @TheLostCowse
      @TheLostCowse Před 22 dny

      i need to see that, it sounds awesome!

  • @drunkenxrage
    @drunkenxrage Před 4 měsíci +115

    You can hear the joysticks clacking and the button clicks in like every intense vid so I've always known you used a GC controller. Those sounds are iconic to us who were 10 in the early-2000s 😂

  • @veldhuizenc
    @veldhuizenc Před 4 měsíci +288

    Just so you know, the "border" around the analog stick is called the "gate". Pro controllers have circle gates, gamecube controllers have octagonal gates (and most arcade-style fight sticks have square gates).

    • @staceyking4904
      @staceyking4904 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Do ugliest combos next shortcat

    • @dogyX3
      @dogyX3 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Is it possible to find 3rd party controllers to mimick pro controllers, but have octagonally gates?

    • @maildaemon
      @maildaemon Před 4 měsíci +2

      That's really cool, I didn't know that!

    • @MrCactuar13
      @MrCactuar13 Před 4 měsíci

      and us arcade stick weirdos have square gates

    • @chimmychuck
      @chimmychuck Před měsícem +1

      @@dogyX3 i actually have a shell mod for my pro controller, it has octogonal gates. pretty cheap, 28 bucks and super easy to install

  • @FishyAshB
    @FishyAshB Před 4 měsíci +52

    This video has blown my mind. I have sometimes begrudgingly used my gamecube controller when family is around, hating the experience because I couldn't soft drift on it. But knowing WHY it doesn't soft drift, and how to actually deal with it, I never thought I'd have someone tell me this. Not only that but I never knew you could do that with the D pad to do motion glider... looks like I'll be using my gamecube controller from now on.

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +15

      Your family was right all along

    • @lunchtreyy
      @lunchtreyy Před 2 měsíci

      You actually don't need to go through the charades of messing with the calibration of the analog sticks, you can just feel the straight edge of the gate and know you are in the soft drifting spot. Because it's not a circle, the edge is closer to the center than the 45 degree angle, so if you just feel a little bit under it you feel the difference and get perfect soft drifts without needing to mess around in the settings

  • @widojay2048
    @widojay2048 Před 4 měsíci +751

    You know it’s that one 9 dollar controller from Ali express
    Update: I tried to play with a GameCube controller and I have a complaint. The analog triggers are really annoying. There were sometimes where I didn’t use the item I wanted to use because it didn’t press all the was down. That’s it

    • @zeuslozano8259
      @zeuslozano8259 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Neato

    • @Cre4tor.
      @Cre4tor. Před 4 měsíci +2

      Real

    • @kirby_says_poyo
      @kirby_says_poyo Před 4 měsíci +2

      Nah, gotta get that Power A.

    • @thebakery3802
      @thebakery3802 Před 4 měsíci +18

      If you were actually using a cheap option and this isnt a joke (either are valid tbh) ive noticed that sometimes the cheap ones have really finicky triggers that can be difficult to use consistently.
      Or if you are using an older gamecube controller the triggers can get worn out (both of these have happened to me)
      If you really want to use a GC controller but have this problem, im almost certain you could find a smash player (probably find a melee player) who has a guide on making them more responsive and consistent.

    • @widojay2048
      @widojay2048 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@thebakery3802 no. It’s that I don’t push the buttons all the way down. Since I’m so used to the pro controller it’s just a quick click, but in the GameCube it’s a long push all the way down

  • @mqgTWO96
    @mqgTWO96 Před 4 měsíci +111

    Thank you so much Shortcat. I've been watching MK8DX guides from English speaking content creators for so long, and you're one of the newer (to me) ones I've recently ran into. My VR on MK8DX online is around 50K so I've been an experienced player for years, but the main question I was always asking is what is the best controller for soft drifting, because as far as time trialing goes for precise mini-turbos and other strats, there's no technique more important in the game than soft drifting and neutral drifting.... appreciate this so much. Still learning something new even after the DLC is over!

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +24

      There's so much to learn in this game! 😊
      For soft drifting, practicing with the pro controller will make you consistent at it too. If you get a GameCube controller, make sure you learn how to do motion glider for online!

  • @plipbloop2159
    @plipbloop2159 Před 4 měsíci +63

    You are the best Mario kart content creator, bar none. I’ve seen comprehensive guides and very long detailed videos on this game before, but you do it in such an accessible way I just enjoy watching the videos. Been watching for half a year now and honestly get excited every time you upload. Keep up the good work ❤

  • @Thebungus765
    @Thebungus765 Před 4 měsíci +50

    I saw a video on game cube motion glider yesterday. I was like: "shortcat does this, why hasn't he made a video about this yet?"

    • @PavelR1
      @PavelR1 Před 4 měsíci

      saaaaame

    • @Thebungus765
      @Thebungus765 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Oh he talked about the video in this video, cool.

  • @yeeeeeeeooooooowwwwch
    @yeeeeeeeooooooowwwwch Před 4 měsíci +17

    I never knew you used a gc controller, I always thought you were so good that motion controls just didn’t effect you

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +10

      I'm flattered, but in reality I cannot drive at all with real motion controls on 😂

  • @provence8917
    @provence8917 Před 4 měsíci +43

    I still use Joy-Cons and while I am good at soft-drifting, it dire situations it can get messy or even in time trials. So, having this extra bit of consistency with the GC controller is great. Can only advocate for this reason alone to use the GC controller, tbh. no matter the skill level. You want consistency every time.

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +10

      I don't main the pro controller, so I can't say for sure what perfect soft drifting muscle memory is like. But i have talked to pro players (some world record holders), and they have no issues soft drifting on the pro controller.
      Although these are people who play a LOT. For the average player, I can confidently say that soft drifting notches are amazing

  • @kylemckell
    @kylemckell Před 4 měsíci +4

    This is one of the coolest in depth advanced tech looks into mario kart 8 dx that I have seen on CZcams. All of this is so cool, and I would've never thought of any of it. Thanks for sharing!

  • @muno
    @muno Před 4 měsíci +12

    I used to think Melee was a really unique game because of all the crazy exploits and tech people have found over the years.
    But videos like these make me think that every game is just as janky, and it just takes a dedicated community over a long period of time to discover it all :D

    • @fusionwing4208
      @fusionwing4208 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, all games are full of bugs/glitches/exploits if the community is dedicated enough to find them xD
      (In a lot of ways its a hinderance though... Some games are considered super glitchy cause of this, even though a casual experience wont really interact with most game breaking issues)

  • @ariac4080
    @ariac4080 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Best mario kart CZcamsr. I have learnt so much from your channel and it is still super entertaining. Everything you say is informative which I love!

  • @lucagacy
    @lucagacy Před 4 měsíci +19

    great vid. I have used both pro controller and GC when playing mariokart. the only thing that keeps me on pro controller is that sometimes on a GC controller (particularly older ones), because the triggers are analog, when trailing an item, the game will just throw the item when you didnt release the trigger. in extreme cases, the controller can flicker between the switch considering the trigger to be pressed or not, and it will spam all your items away. its a rare occurrence, but this has even happened to Ludwig on stream when playing MK8DX, and you can see his confusion on his face when it happens.

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +14

      Good to know! This must be a faulty controller, or only the really old ones. I don't think I've experienced this issue myself

  • @Lamellae
    @Lamellae Před 4 měsíci

    I was so curious about your motion inputs im glad you made this, it's also super useful

  • @unnamedplayer7141
    @unnamedplayer7141 Před 4 měsíci +12

    I am by no means part of the MK community; I just watch a few content creators and cry about the fact that I don't have my switch with me (I will soon, just also need to cry about spending $60 as a broke college student). But I absolutely love seeing the references and support of other creators who also play the game. I had watched one of Rod's recent videos and he had made a reference to your specific content, then came here just to see you also using a clip from him. Great stuff. Keep it up!

  • @thenintendude
    @thenintendude Před 3 měsíci +3

    Wow! I NEVER knew about this advanced gliding technique! I thumbed up this video because of how thorough it was in explaining it, along with how my favorite controller of all time has yet ONE MORE use, further cementing its status! Good job in explaining! 👍🏻 I wonder how this would work with the Nyxi Wizard... 🤔

  • @maildaemon
    @maildaemon Před 4 měsíci +25

    I use a (officially licensed) third-party controller to play Mario Kart, one that lacks a motion sensor. I'd heard a little about input doubling before, but this is crazy. I wonder if I've ever used doubled inputs accidentally?
    Anyway, thank you for finally talking in-depth about your controller usage! After I initially heard you use a GameCube controller for Mario Kart, I took a look at it and have been considering buying one to play. Thanks for providing me with more info :)

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +12

      Input doubling is super weird and I don't understand why it happens in the first place. There is even a difference in animation when soft drifting (check the Yoshi clip where I talk about bad soft drifting, the left Yoshi leans more, and so does peach in the next clip).
      So now I can go back and see which videos I recorded with doubled inputs, and cringe at the bad driving 😇

    • @straawberryfieldsforever
      @straawberryfieldsforever Před 4 měsíci +2

      hey me too! I didn't know it wasn't official because Kirby was on it so I figured it must have been real. But yeah its 3rd party licensed. Works great but maybe I should look into an adaptor, my gamecube controllers are collecting dust.

    • @NoName-ui5ou
      @NoName-ui5ou Před 4 měsíci

      Have you tried using motion controls with it with the dpad? Do you need to map that manually or is it set to motion controls by default?

    • @maildaemon
      @maildaemon Před 4 měsíci

      @@NoName-ui5ou I have not! I'll test it out. The controller I use is not re-mappable though, sadly.

  • @sebbie_gonzo
    @sebbie_gonzo Před 4 měsíci

    Amazingly detailed video! This is, hands down, some of the best MK8DX content out there. Can't wait for the pro guide!

  • @keksidy
    @keksidy Před 2 měsíci +2

    The people spamming "I'm using tilt controls!" were onto something

  • @Boberry765
    @Boberry765 Před 4 měsíci +6

    Keep up the work shortcat

  • @mariocisemusic
    @mariocisemusic Před 4 měsíci +4

    having played this game with a gamecube controller before, i was almost certain the thumbnail was a joke. the ability to motion glider with the dpad and your clever soft drifting hack really change the game-i have to try this!

  • @gamkht
    @gamkht Před 4 měsíci

    Always wondered what your setup was, and wanted more info on controllers as well. Looking forward to the advanced guide!!

  • @iCyee5G
    @iCyee5G Před 4 měsíci

    This video was really interesting. I cannot wait for the advanced techs guide!!! Love the content Shortcat ♥️ keep it up!

  • @Hegna1
    @Hegna1 Před 4 měsíci +21

    Just FYI (admittedly something I imagine you've considered) for the soft drifting, a lot of high level Smash Melee players just have their controller filed down with special notches to hit certain angles consistently (firefox angles for recovery, wavedash angles for maximum distance). Obviously, this requires controller modding, which isn't for everyone, but I imagine a similar approach could be used for soft drifting to not need to reset the controller. Probably not super necessary, but figure it can be an option worth considering too?

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +4

      Compared to controller resetting, the only advantage I can think of for custom notches is to get soft drifting on all 4 diagonals. With resetting, you have to pick between the up diagonal and the down diagonal.
      Most good players soft drift with the up diagonal, probably for comfort. To my knowledge, up vs down soft drifting only matters in 2 situations:
      1. Throwing an item forward or backward while soft drifting
      2. Sinking vs floating while soft drifting
      (for #2, I can only think of specifically big blue's last turn path switch, and piranha plant cove's first turn shortcut, both of which you would prefer to soft drift downwards)
      I guess having all 4 diagonal notches would be ideal, but I just aim above the lower notch whenever I need to soft drift downwards, which is almost never.

    • @Hegna1
      @Hegna1 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@Shortcat321 Yeah that makes sense. I wasn't sure if it would be necessary (I definitely mostly play Kart casually, but enjoying learning more about game systems), but it just seemed like an interesting option after hearing about trying to hit certain points consistently. I can definitely understand it being overkill though.

    • @Jetliner
      @Jetliner Před 3 měsíci +1

      Common misconception is that there is a single softdrifting angle. That's not the case. You want access to the full range of angles between 90 and 45 and notching would be counterintuitive to this purpose

  • @Gala_KM
    @Gala_KM Před 4 měsíci +3

    This is really useful information. The way you go about explaining mechanics is very engaging and it's really accessible for people trying to get into competitive Mario kart. Thank you for all of the effort you put into your videos 👍

  • @onebear6504
    @onebear6504 Před 4 měsíci

    Been waiting for your upload! It didn't disappoint! And I admire how you found all this tricks with the controller lol. Must be lots of theorizing and experimenting. Appreciate you sharing it too xD.

  • @lokory
    @lokory Před 4 měsíci +2

    I wanted to know how to do that yesterday and seeing you make a video on it is a HUGE coincidence :P

  • @BearUNLV
    @BearUNLV Před 3 měsíci +3

    Been using GameCube since the beginning actually about 4k hours on it lol, nice vid

  • @xColter
    @xColter Před 4 měsíci +8

    I use a pro controller with a custom faceplate that has gamecube notches for soft drifting. This allows me to soft drift easier. I would like to always have motion gliding, but from my experience online, it doesn't make me win any more or less, so I enjoy the motion tricking for stability in my own performance :) If players are better than me they will still find ways to smack me.

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +10

      That's a cool mod! Also I respect that decision, missing a trick can be frustrating.
      And that's true, the time saved from motion glider is not big enough to always matter. But the royal raceway shroomless cut saves about the same amount of time and I do it every lap anyway. And I do have several clips in this video where motion glider definitely mattered a lot. As with any small time save, it's more about the probability of it helping you, and also stacking time saves to ultimately be so far ahead that maybe you dodge an entire boomerang thanks to it.

    • @xColter
      @xColter Před 4 měsíci

      @Shortcat321 very true! You do always save great time in your clips! Thanks for responding man, I love your videos

  • @loading.
    @loading. Před 4 měsíci +2

    This is an awesome video. I wasn't wanting to actually watch the video, i just wanted to see what you were talking about, but then i watched the whole thing. Great stuff

  • @yoshiyoshi9496
    @yoshiyoshi9496 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is very helpful, thx fam

  • @rytheartguy3778
    @rytheartguy3778 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Ok this is good, I bought a Gamecube Controller a while back but I saw a Pro Controller and I thought my GameCube Controller wouldn't be good with 8 Deluxe. So thank you ShortCat for calming my nerves

  • @n10do
    @n10do Před 4 měsíci +3

    One nuance I would add that wasn’t mentioned in the vid is that you cannot re-map inputs on the GCN to turn on smart steering more easily. Smart steering is pretty useful on stages like Ribbon Road or DK Summit.

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Right, it's slightly slower to hit the pause button on GCC than a remapped pro controller button

  • @Derysss
    @Derysss Před 4 měsíci

    Such an amazing vid! Thanks for all the explanation

  • @wario1226
    @wario1226 Před 4 měsíci

    Great editing in this!

  • @Skillissuelol
    @Skillissuelol Před 4 měsíci +8

    I swear you actually have the potential to be one of the best MK8dx players with all the knowledge you have

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Meanwhile I didn't play Mario kart for 3 days to make this video 😅

  • @gooimi
    @gooimi Před 4 měsíci +4

    Have you considered getting a custom gamecube controller with custom notches? That way you dont need to change the stick's calibration

  • @tejmen6877
    @tejmen6877 Před 4 měsíci

    I was always so confused what the clicking was in the vids. Thanks for clearing that up! :)

  • @NorthStrongSC
    @NorthStrongSC Před 4 měsíci +2

    Don't even know how I found this channel. But I've watched a ton of your videos and they inspired me to play a bit online for the first time tonight. Got to 1500 and had a lot of fun. I will definitely never be at the point where I need to worry about what kind of controller I'm using but you're such a good presenter I'm watching anyway lol.

    • @NorthStrongSC
      @NorthStrongSC Před 4 měsíci

      Also mario with standard kart tires glider FTW

  • @Bayesic
    @Bayesic Před 4 měsíci +5

    First off I REALLY enjoyed your way of explaining why motion glider is faster. Don't know if you've ever had a moment when watching a video where you go "Shit that's how *I* should have explained that" but that was it for me lol
    As far as which controller is "better" I think it depends
    1. If you're a new-ish player it might be a bit complicated to set up a gamecube controller properly, but once you do it's clearly easier to learn the tech on gamecube than it is on switch
    2. At top level I do actually think the pro controller is still better though, and that's because button remapping + --> L and Y --> R makes doing motion glider pretty straightforward with like 5 minutes of practice. I also think a lot of people will find it pretty awkward to take their right hand off the controller mid race. Not saying that this makes gamecube bad, just that I don't think it actually provides much of a clear advantage. And being forced to give up shake tricking really does hurt in enough circumstances that I'd say it's a pretty clear disadvantage
    3. However I've gotta say this is an absolute GAME CHANGER for speedruns, because in a speedrun, pausing actually pauses the game unlike online where it keeps going, and so all of the benefits of motion controls are more than cancelled out by how long you spend in the pause menu. HOWEVER the fact that gamecube has no motion sensor means that we can play with motion controls on all the time without it screwing up our lines. This means that gamecube has actually unlocked motion controls for speedrunning, which is AMAZING, and almost certainly worth being forced to give up the ability to shake trick

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Thank you Bayesic!! For anyone who doesn't know, this is the man I first learned motion glider from.
      1. Yes, there are a few steps and it's possible to unknowingly mess it up. Especially accidentally having doubled inputs turned on.
      2. For time trials, pro controller may still be better because of the greater range of inputs that are possible (dpad only lets you hit 8 coordinates). Also you don't need to take your right hand off the controller for gamecube controller, you just stretch your right thumb over to the dpad. It's pretty easy to do. Also as someone who uses the gamecube controller, I'm pretty sure I save more time on motion glider than the time I lose on missed tricks. I have not measured this though, and the difference would also depend on the exact distribution of tracks you play on. For example, competitive lounge players play some tracks way more than other tracks.
      3. Awesome! I didn't even think about that. The difference here would be measurable, since in a speedrun you know exactly which tracks you're going to play on, and therefore the expected amount of time saved from motion glider, and time lost from missed tricks.

  • @Kandraith
    @Kandraith Před 4 měsíci +4

    I'm old. I was 6 when the Gamecube came out. I will always default back to it if I can when it comes to controller use.

    • @dh3913
      @dh3913 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Same! It’s just such a solid controller, I always want to use it.

  • @Herbu21
    @Herbu21 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Omg I was wondering if you had posted a video today, I check CZcams and 53s ago, new video! Thx for your work, J Cat

  • @nuke_hazard18_23
    @nuke_hazard18_23 Před 4 měsíci

    Another outstanding video, thanks shortcat. Hope you have a great day!

  • @GigaladSW
    @GigaladSW Před 4 měsíci +3

    as a pro controller player, i might consider switching. but what’s funny is that at 14:30 when he was explaining why motion glider is sooooooo good, HE LITERALLY MISSED A TRICK LOL but either way, i consider your opinion very accurate because when i tune into a jpg stream (jpg uses a pro controller) almost every time i watch his streams, he messes up a motion glider and regrets it. obviously jpg is legions better than you, (no offense but he’s literally top 300 in the world) he still messes up because of his playing style so i find this video extremely helpful. PS: IM YOUR #1 FAN AND NOBODY WILL PROVE OTHERWISE

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Wow I didn't even notice, that was funny haha. And no offense taken, it's simply true that he's much better than me. I do feel like my motion glider is pretty consistent thanks to the dpad!

  • @selfloathinggameing
    @selfloathinggameing Před 4 měsíci +4

    You did mention that Smash players prefer GC controllers, but could Melee-style controller mods help with Mario Kart? They use custom notches to get consistent max wavedashes or shield drops, this could make softdrift consistent without having to mess with stick calibration every time you plug a controller in.

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Carving notches should work, but I'm not an expert on that. For the GCC the only advantage I can think of is to get soft drifting on both the up diagonal and down diagonal notches. The reset method only lets you pick up or down, not both. It matters for very niche situations like throwing an item, or floaty tracks where holding down vs up matters

    • @Coco-qy6st
      @Coco-qy6st Před 4 měsíci +3

      I think they definitely would. Notches for the soft-drift angles and trigger plugs for shorter trigger pulls (more comfortable imo)

    • @Coco-qy6st
      @Coco-qy6st Před 4 měsíci +2

      Tactile Z button would be a good mod too. Forgot that one.

  • @kirbyspielt9999
    @kirbyspielt9999 Před 28 dny

    thanks you rvideos are so fun to watch and so helpfull i got a pro con but i think i will switch now

  • @E-78
    @E-78 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I originally played mario kart wii, and once i discovered the Gamecube controller it was my go-to everytime I played. It was cool to see it used for Mario Kart 8 and it sounds like it would be a lot of fun to revisit that controller in the current entry. Thanks for the great video!

  • @cahasesbricks
    @cahasesbricks Před 3 měsíci +4

    No way this is what Jperm has been doing all this time

  • @DarkIllusionn
    @DarkIllusionn Před 3 měsíci +19

    Me using an xbox controller 🗿🍷

  • @MrAndyjobo
    @MrAndyjobo Před 2 měsíci

    So informative!!

  • @HaileyBug0
    @HaileyBug0 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I just found out about your Mario kart channel. This is really cool, and I came from your cubing channel, and I was very surprised!

  • @BrandonChen-sdef123
    @BrandonChen-sdef123 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I was like “how does he always play with motion controls on?”

  • @dogeboii7441
    @dogeboii7441 Před 4 měsíci +5

    JPerm, that you?

  • @Duplidikus
    @Duplidikus Před 4 měsíci

    You are so underrated! Great Videos!

  • @bluecherry5517
    @bluecherry5517 Před 4 měsíci +1

    thank you for validating me I've always preferred the gamecube controller comfort wise for mario kart

  • @Herbu21
    @Herbu21 Před 4 měsíci +15

    5:40 Actually, you CAN disable motion glider after you finished the race. You had a few seconds (about 1 or 2?) to open the settings menu and disable it when you finished the race. Or you can click Y in the course selection to go back to the vehicle selection and disable it there (But of course, it's not optimal)

    • @bryceinnerst7963
      @bryceinnerst7963 Před 4 měsíci +2

      hes referring to the rest of the current race, not the next race dummy

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +9

      Yes, I was specifically talking about if you're not on lap 3

    • @CYLITM
      @CYLITM Před 4 měsíci

      This only works in the top spots anyways

  • @ache_
    @ache_ Před 3 měsíci +78

    did you get tired of cubing

  • @Draidenfriday
    @Draidenfriday Před 3 měsíci

    yoo, jperm, this is an amazing video, love the new content. I still love your cubing vids but these mario kart ones go hard too

  • @saminabibi6445
    @saminabibi6445 Před 2 měsíci

    Love your vids shortcat! (Shroomless shortcut)

  • @Sebboebbo
    @Sebboebbo Před 4 měsíci +3

    I tilt on a third-party pro controller because it feels nicer in my hands compared to two joy-cons and because tilt is funny

  • @NewPolkCity
    @NewPolkCity Před 4 měsíci +3

    Day 2 of asking Shortcat to play online Battle Mode in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

  • @TheRealMXG
    @TheRealMXG Před 4 měsíci +1

    SHORTCAT UPLOAD MY DAY IS MUCH BETTER!! Hope ur having a great day Shortcat!! Quick Q: since I usually watch your videos to get better, how’d you initially get good at Mario Kart, and how’d you find all these advanced techs?

  • @alaxion5628
    @alaxion5628 Před 4 měsíci

    amazing vid, def very helpful

  • @BrandonChen-sdef123
    @BrandonChen-sdef123 Před 4 měsíci +4

    There is a video on this called “hyper gliding in Mario kart 8 deluxe”

  • @Remzfx
    @Remzfx Před 4 měsíci +7

    Video idea: face reveal at 300k

    • @Jfile904
      @Jfile904 Před 4 měsíci

      Soon we'll see that he's Jperm

    • @stangneshakon
      @stangneshakon Před 4 měsíci +1

      Something makes me think he has chinese blood 🤔

    • @zek2234
      @zek2234 Před 4 měsíci +1

      i bet he'd look like my friend, dylan, he likes to do rubiks cubes

    • @love2o9
      @love2o9 Před 2 měsíci +1

      He seems like the guy to secretly do Rubik's Cubes

    • @user-uy5og5sb8l
      @user-uy5og5sb8l Před měsícem

      Just look at the channel Jperm and you will see his face

  • @simonsszzs
    @simonsszzs Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you very much for this awesome video 😊

  • @mauriciofuentes7638
    @mauriciofuentes7638 Před 3 měsíci

    This is really cool! I had no idea that older controllers could be used on the Switch

  • @jaskaranbajwa8443
    @jaskaranbajwa8443 Před 4 měsíci +3

    That's some insane p2w, kinda surprised I haven't heard about this more. Hitbox was mega controversial in the FGC until devs started putting in counter measures to make it fair but I've never even heard about his and MK8D isn't even some underground game either

    • @Shortcat321
      @Shortcat321  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ideally we'll have a controller that can shake trick (maybe simulated by a button press), cannot tilt, has soft drifting notches on all 4 diagonals, and can motion input using the right hand. Until then, everyone is compromising anyway 😬

  • @Jabinmk8
    @Jabinmk8 Před 4 měsíci

    Very informative video. Learned alit about the GC controller controls. Thanks

  • @retlaW-Rock
    @retlaW-Rock Před 4 měsíci

    YAYY! The average to pro guide!! Thanks alot Shortcat!

  • @sanayuqi
    @sanayuqi Před 4 měsíci

    This is a really good video! I use a PDP GameCube controller and I love it (I play smash a lot) and it basically fixes all the issues that come with the Nintendo brand controller as it has triggers in the same style as the bumpers, and the +/-/home/screenshot buttons are all present! - still no motion sensor though

  • @Wyattsworld913
    @Wyattsworld913 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Love this video so much

  • @RyneMcKinney
    @RyneMcKinney Před 4 měsíci

    I like how you uploaded this right as I was pondering buying a fresh smash bros gamecube controller and an adapter with the 100 dollar gift card I got

  • @funbottlegames4158
    @funbottlegames4158 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Shortcat your a legend for this I never knew you used a GameCube controller that way you always motion glide 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @knockoffninja
    @knockoffninja Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love that you featured Bayesic in this video. He's a great guy who I know outside of youtube

  • @codexcotton
    @codexcotton Před 4 měsíci

    I do love using my DualSense controller for Mario Kart. It gets me the most consistent results. With the techniques I larned from your videos I'm almost at 10k VR. Have a good one.

  • @Storm107
    @Storm107 Před 4 měsíci +2

    And here I thought I'd never get to use motion glider because I main GC Controller. Incredibly helpful video.

  • @NoTeMetasConPou
    @NoTeMetasConPou Před 4 měsíci +1

    thank you jpe- i mean shortcat i will def use this when I play Mario kart next!

  • @PickoYT_
    @PickoYT_ Před 4 měsíci +2

    I like this new way of making videos using a more analytical view of the game.
    Also great video, didn't notice people were this sweaty to use a 10 year old smash controller🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-ql9hs5qv7r
    @user-ql9hs5qv7r Před 3 měsíci

    This video convinced me to invest in my own GameCube controller for my switch! The game cube was one of the first consoles I ever played I probably haven’t touched one in 15 years!

  • @Girlilla-n-4eyes
    @Girlilla-n-4eyes Před 29 dny +2

    My brother and I decided to buy GameCube controllers after watching this video. They finally arrived today and we love them! This video was so helpful and informative. Thank you so much!! 😊 Can’t wait to start wrecking people online lol

  • @honor3301
    @honor3301 Před 4 měsíci

    This is awesome, thank you so much for making this!! I’ve been wondering about controllers for a while. Do you think I could get the best of both worlds by using the Switch GameCube controller?

  • @miloszandzel
    @miloszandzel Před 4 měsíci +1

    It's always a good day when Jperm uploads, no matter what channel

  • @TheGlaiveDominatrus
    @TheGlaiveDominatrus Před 4 měsíci +2

    In case you all are wondering, if you REALLY like your controllers with rumble, you can plug the grey plug into the Nintendo Switch as well as enable rumble for system settings and the game you are playing.

  • @ryansalads
    @ryansalads Před 4 měsíci

    HI SHORTCAT! LOVE YOUR VIDS❤

  • @dude98a.k.adudewhereismyca84
    @dude98a.k.adudewhereismyca84 Před 4 měsíci +1

    5:05 it seems part of mario kart wii's Dpad tricks (you'd do ramp tricks by pressing a direction on the dpad) for the gamecube controller and classic controller are kind of reappearing.
    17:00 the grey plug is extra power for rumble, i'd say plug it in if you like having rumble.

  • @Cdawg13
    @Cdawg13 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Hi love your videos also before this video I was wondering how you were gliding like that

  • @gamkht
    @gamkht Před 4 měsíci

    I'm so early, love your videos!!

  • @ganasus1879
    @ganasus1879 Před 4 měsíci

    As someone who comes from smash and is more comfortable with the gamecube controller anyways this is very helpful! Thank you for sharing things like this

  • @boo1_gaming927
    @boo1_gaming927 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I have modified the triggers on one of my GCN controllers so they will act more like a digital trigger than the stock analog ones. It’s also worth noting that GCN controllers can be used with MKWii, MKSC (with Game Boy Player on the GCN), and MKDD, so if you play either of those games as well, you’ll be better off with a trigger modification. I just use trigger plugs, but if you want a true digital trigger in your GCN controller, you will need it modded on a hardware level. Sites like Battle Beaver offer these services, but they don’t come cheap. Trigger plugs and the appropriate screwdrivers are $20 at most, while specialized GCN controllers can cost $200+. Last thing, you don’t need a GCN controller to achieve motionless motion gliding. You can also just get a wired third party controller from Power A or PDP, and the results will be the same as using a GCN controller. Heck, it maybe even better to use a USB controller over GCN because the adapter does add latency. That, and some of these third party wired controllers may have assignable buttons on the bottom of the controller. Most of them have two if they have them, but I know the Fusion by Power A has four. That means if you have a Fusion controller, you can map all of the inputs of the d pad on the bottom buttons, and you don't have to do crazy shenanigans with your hands.

  • @JuneNafziger
    @JuneNafziger Před 2 měsíci

    Gated analog sticks are awesome. I once used some driver nonsense to play Celeste on PC with a wiimote and nunchuck to use that gated stick (I don’t have a GC adapter). It worked pretty well!

  • @pheldsparr
    @pheldsparr Před 4 měsíci +1

    I love seeing people put so much effort into optimizing techniques for a game that is known for punishing you very hard for being good or sometimes no reason at all.

  • @HyperLuigi37
    @HyperLuigi37 Před 4 měsíci

    Oh my god, soft drifting was the secret sauce I needed to start shaking, thank you Cat 🙏

  • @tylerlegend7205
    @tylerlegend7205 Před 4 měsíci

    Im glad you also saw the hyper glider video

  • @alfredograve2387
    @alfredograve2387 Před 4 měsíci

    i love this type of videos
    am i ever gonna use these tips or buy a game cube controller? no ofc
    am i gonna tell people and friends that these tricks are the holy grail of mario kart while sounding like a total pointdexter? yeah ofc