@@markholubetz No matter - the US Federal Gov't is mandating 49 MPG for fleet standard so manufacturers MUST offer EVs in their lineup to meet that demand.
I am in Palm Beach, Florida.. USA for a few days and went to the local Toyota dealership.. They want 7,000.00 over sticker price for a new 2025 Toyota Camry. All trims.. They have have lost their minds!!!
The only thing that's going to bring prices down is when the consumers say "give us a work truck w/o all the bells and whistles". The consumer has forgotten that trucks were supposed to be a work tool, not a commuter vehicle.
@Clockwork0nions market studies and greedy dealers decide who would buy them first and then set the price. When the first Maverick was set to be sold under 20k dollars, I would have looked at one to replace my small compact car. But prices quickly shot up when they hit the market and popularity. When interest rate ease down, many Americans will be shopping for new. But with the population waiting for lower rates and lower prices it most likely will be a feeding frenzy as the market picks up in affordable easy on the gas vehicles.
Prices are outrageous! How can the average middle class family afford these prices. I’m in Texas, most people I know are keeping their paid off cars as long as they can. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees this insanity!
I hate my current car, bought a Jeep because it was literally the only new car I could afford 6 years ago. Hasn’t been the greatest car. I’m used to the old Fords, but with today’s prices I’ll probably drive this Jeep forever because it would be cheaper to just replace motor etc than buy something new. I’ve been trying to get back into a truck and sadly I’ve seen 15-20 years old trucks going for 20-25k which is insanely priced as well. Your screwed on all ends as far as cars go. It’s literally cheaper just keeping and replacing broken parts as needed
The goal of the governments is to get people out of their private vehicles WEF style and onto public transit. This is done by making it unaffordable by: interest rates, taxation, vehicle capital cost, insurance costs, fuel costs, maintenance costs, income tax. No disposable money left. The solution WEF style is 15 minute cities. No need for private transportation.
Are auto manufacturers and dealers working with the government to bankrupt their own companies? 🤔 Every year they raise the prices of their own vehicles, add markups and add-ons. I could be wrong but my theory is the government is raising interest rates to force manufacturers to lower prices.
"Fossil" fuels⛽️ are the lifeblood of capitaIism. It isn't about saving the planet, it's about destroying Western cuIture and economic systems, which prevent the current adaptations of Marxism from taking root. "CIimate change" is part of a multipronged attack along with "usefuI ¡diots of the revolution" migrants, LGBTQ+ 🏳️🌈 , DEI, Feminism, BLM, etc... "The issue isn't the issue. The issue is the revolution."
My mother tried to buy a new explorer this past weekend it on the website was listed at 31k when they got to the dealer they tacked on another 7k in fees and also tried to claim things on her current car were broken and offered an extremely low trade in offer for a car that everything works on. Needless to say they lost a sale
I say screw them all, just walk away. Keep what you have, promise it was built much better than the crap they are making today for WAY more money. Screw them all.
You may be right! All of these turbo charged 4 and 6 cylinder engines wont last longer then the loan terms. People will default when they can’t afford a $20,000 repair bill.
@@Pb_Slinger Especially once the warranty runs out! Look at the guy’s who are currently on their 2nd or 3rd engine repair with Toyota Tundra’s that’s $30K a pop.
They need to drop them all by 50% then they might start selling. Why would people give them nearly what it costs to buy a house for a truck that depreciates fast! Keep it up folks until they drop 50% or more these prices are way over priced!
Because the average family home in Canada is $800k so an $80k truck is what it is. The only fix is a recession to come back to reality. Crash incoming 😢
Then they will be keeping them. I am getting quite comfortable in my used paid off vehicle and starting to wonder why I would ever buy a new overpriced vehicle.
You’re wrong. Ford is in huge trouble, and prices will plummet regardless of what you mistakenly believe. Lower volumes and ridiculous UAW contracts ensure that costs of production will continue to increase. Legacy auto is seeing diseconomies of scale unlike anything they’ve ever seen before. It’s going to get bloody. I should add that you have an interest in not telling the truth because you make money off of higher prices. I’m not sure if you’re misinformed or disingenuous.
Bought a used 2022 Escape AWD Titanium w/ under 20K miles. Got it home, took it out a few days later and the check engine light came on! Dealer I bought it from refused to take it back. Took it to a Ford dealer, left it there for 2 weeks, they replaced the purge valve under warranty. Drove it a couple of times, check engine light back on. Took it back for several more days and they come back and say the EVAP canister is broken due to a road hazard, and they won't fix it under warranty. Said it would be $900+ USD! Found a local dealer that would sell me the canister for $300, replaced it myself, then sold it for a slight loss when everything was added up. The EVAP canister was located right on the bottom of the vehicle, driver side protected only by a "cardboard" type cover. Seems like a bad design decision, cheap plastic charcoal canister required for emissions inspection located where it can easily be damaged then they won't cover under warranty and want to charge you $900 to repair! Ford stinks, never buy another again.
I'm not young either. We just put a deposit on a base model Toyota Corolla, it's a long lasting and relatively inexpensive car. It's just mostly the missus and me and groceries so no need for a " hauler ", just basic affordable transportation.
The cheapest interior is ford. Rented a Ford suv while in Michigan and I was shocked how cheap interior was! It was as if they just used cheapest plastic and glued it on with Elmer glue.
They are not the only ones... Just bought a GMC Denali.. Top of the line????? Ha No power fold mirrors... No power rear slider window.... No lock on the glovebox.... No power telescopes/tilt wheel... Came with a hitchbar with NO RECEIVER.. Priced it on parts---$565 throwaway bar and they want $895 for a real hitch.. >> should gave me credit for that piece of crap & charged me $300 for a real hitch>>>> Couple 3-4" holes in side of bed & where sides meet bulkhead, gaping holes for water to come in>>> yea, I know it's a truck-- but really----- Top of the line my butt------
Plus Canyon Denali... Hard plastic dash... Hard plastic door tops.... Even the Wrangker I had, had soft plastic/vinyl for those areas.... Charging more & cheaper quality or NO quality>>>>>
they blame the Mach-Es failure solely on it being electric, but its cause they made they ugliest suv of all time and banked on good sales just cause they slapped a Mustang emblem on it, ruined the history of the mustang and it pissed people off
Don’t feel bad for dealerships. They screwed the customers with their outrageous add-ons for past three years and many still do till today. So they can feel the pain for all I care. Till they drop their prices, not buying.
@@songj0056 Stealerships days are numbered regardless, direct sales from OEMs will replace them, it's simpler, way faster better experience. They don't add any value especially when cars don't need regular maintenance as BEVs don't.
A 2014? You won't have long to wait for the wheels to start falling off. My last Ford I had the belt tensioner wheel fell off and I toasted the engine because I had to keep going to get to a safe neighborhood.
My 2002 Ford F350 XLT Crew Cab Power Stroke just three days ago turned over to 38,000 miles. "Barely Broke In" by diesel standards. In the fall of 2001 when no one would buy anything, I paid $37,480.00 for it fully loaded. It is still in mint condition and garage-babied. With the absolute sticker shock shown here, me and my F350 are gonna be together for a long, long time!😂
Plus , As the Asian brands came in , and the Big 3 started losing market share . The UAW workers only cared about " their " $$ . NOT that all the Asian brands were getting well known for reliability . And , that more were sold to AMERICANS , yearly . Still now , the UAW cares about $$ , no matter the junk going out , or the insane pricing . @@Mrbfgray
All the nanny tech in new vehicles is infuriating. Give me a reliable truxk that i can fix on my own. Automakers work for the government not the consumer
I would never buy anything from Ford with a 2.7 . This engine has a rubber band driving the oil pump. All of it running in motor oil. When the rubber band breaks, it's done. I suspect it would last about 98k miles. You Tubes " I Do Cars " has a video on the subject.
The problem is in a few years these trucks will still be 30k-40 used with 100k miles. What banks going to give the average person a 72 month loan for a vehicle like that. This is a long term problem not just a now problem. This is just a disaster in the waiting. Thanks for the videos speaking the truth brother.
Too funny, I agree way over priced-I was a Ford dealer in Michigan in the 90 s selling F 150 s xlt for 14,000 ,ceo Farley said you need to make 125K a year to afford their trucks now- based on other costs to -Housing , food , car -the industry is dead- when the average guy cant afford a basic truck-repos way up- and going higher-I went to the auctions in Detroit every week and watched 1000 cars a week go through the repo lines of Ford motor credit and GMAC-in 2 years you wont recognise the world-auto and Home owners Insurance the next shoe to drop-going through the roof ,TIC TOC =BOOOOOOM -The world was far better off when Henry Ford only paid 5 bucks a day wage-its not how much you make- its what you can buy, with what you make thats important
I own a 4Runner with 425,500 miles. I took care of her, but she is getting old. If I actually knew someone who would properly restore....I don't; but at least I would have a rebuilt engine, noise mitigation and all the little stuff fixed. I would pay that rather than buy a 4Runner with a lawn mower engine. EPA has ruined these companies. Problem is that even though I know mechanics, they are getting rich right now so a proper restoration is damn near impossible. Paid one joker $525 to replace my leaking Valve cover gaskets!!! Lasted about about 6 months. Shaudy work and over-confident pillheads. I'm screwed. Guess I will buy a hooptie
The first Lariat was a custom order that was not picked up …Also those are not tie downs on the hood, they are tire guides. Yes Ford has increased the price of their product to rapidly and it is not working for their potential customers.
Politics aside still have idiots paying outrageous prices and financing for 80 months at 7% plus…fueling the industry. People just need to stop buying all together.
I'm keeping my 18 year old stick shift Pontiac (Toyota inside) Vibe. A bullet proof engine, great reliability, screen free, non turbo- simple, rugged and affordable. Unless the auto makers offer something very similar, I'll keep it until I fall off my perch.
The writing is on the wll for EV's - biggest waste of industrial capital this century.Govts are going to have to listen to the people.Hybrid was the sensible step to take but the powers that be thought otherwise.I am sticking with my 2019 VW Golf that was 9 months old when i bought it for almost 60% of original list price.I love it!!!😎
Thanks. I am looking to buy a high end / ton truck, but am watching all you utubers to find the sweet spot on when to buy. I can afford to buy whatever I want, but why pay more? You are a great help and I like your collaboration with the others on the state of the automotive and general economic situation. The reason some people have money is they aren't loose with it. keep up the good work.
All these EVs parked for months on the lot need to have their batteries kept at a certain state of charge. Good luck doing that in the dead of winter. You'll need to warm them up in the service bay for hours before they'll hold a charge. Do that for every EV on your lot.
Wow! Dispensing raw fuel??? And the Band Aid was approved for production. Cats out of the bag now. Why not fix the leaking injector problem?? Why is anything less than that accepted?
Since The Lovely Bride and I don't care about being entertained by any vehicle an AM/FM radio with a couple of speakers is fine, we can both read a road map and road signs, so we don't need GPS, rubber mats and manual seats, windows and transmissions work too. We only need the basics in any truck or car for that matter so a "fleet" level pickup with real 4X4 capability would be ideal for our uses if we had any intention of buying anything new. Thankfully though, the two pickups The Lovely Bride and I currently own are both paid for, and both give us everything we need and we don't have a truck payment that exceeds the one we pay on time every month for our home.
@@kathleenking47 We've only rarely found the need for GPS on our phones such as when driving (looking for a specific VA parking garage in Baltimore, for the first time, was a thing I must admit to) "in the big city" but thanks to street surface work the GPS could only get us to within three blocks of the hospital. The lady in the phone nearly had a melt down and had to be put in a time out because we were unable to/refused to follow her directions. After that, we just figured it out on our own and by following the detour signs. I know of several folks who have totally freaked out when their in-car/phone GPS systems did not/could not put them at "the front door" of their desired destinations because such systems do not, and as far as I know, cannot keep up with road work changes to an already mapped traffic pattern.
I'm totally done with looking at new trucks or SUV's. The manufacturers are in a true rip off mode and I didn't think I'd see the day. They cave to the unions and give them whatever they want and expect us to pick up the outrageous tab. I'll drive my 2015 until the thing falls apart.
“Ford is going bankrupt.” Why do these liars get recommended to my feed. What a ridiculous take. Ford is, and continues to be one of the most successful car companies in the world.
Dealers are coming around on inventory that has been sitting. I recently had a dealer price me a ‘24 XLT with the FX4 package for $45k. No miles on it. I believe sticker price was $62k.
The cause is the brain dead management, not just at Ford. I work in manufacturing and these vehicles don't have to cost more than $30k- $35k considering the numbers that they're produced in. The problem is and has been in management for decades. What's happening today is simply the maturation of their incessant incompetency over the decades. The death knell first sounded loud with the 4 door Chevelle followed by the 4 door Charger. The Charger worked because there was no other choice. But the designers and engineers are out of touch. They're out of touch by the direction of the brain dead managements.
I own a 2017 F150 4X4 FX4 XLT 302A 5.0L COYOTE 93k miles on it. Fully paid for, and I will never trade it or get rid of it. It listed for $48k in 2017 but it was a demo so i paid 43k.
50k for an escape is just ridiculous 😅
It really is
Who is buying these things new for ripoff prices?!
$65k for that bronco is the most disgusting thing
It’s brutal, really.
$146,000 for a Ford truck is not a deal.
That's a mansion a car and a boat in Italy
Mind blowing that they would have a single buyer for that vehicle. If I was going to spend $146,000 for a vehicle it sure as hell wouldn’t be a Ford.
Oh but its $5k off its a bargain
@@oltskoolerthat's two mansions a boat a land cruiser and a servant in Tanzania.
@@aaron___6014 I'm coming over there.😃
Btw, nobody wants the EV crap either.!
Nobody does and most manufacturers are seeing that now. Only early adopters purchased and now the rest are pretty much sticking ICe or at least hybrid
@@markholubetz No matter - the US Federal Gov't is mandating 49 MPG for fleet standard so manufacturers MUST offer EVs in their lineup to meet that demand.
@@MMSIV That is just another made up green scam mandates.
@@MMSIV Another green scam mandate.
@@MMSIV Great mandate. It's not another green scam at all.
I am in Palm Beach, Florida.. USA for a few days and went to the local Toyota dealership.. They want 7,000.00 over sticker price for a new 2025 Toyota Camry. All trims.. They have have lost their minds!!!
What a laugh. They'll have them this time next year. Plenty of Toyota dealers discounting.
Indeed, dealerships are often criticized for rip-offs.
Offer them $3k-$5k below MSRP. West Palm Beach is my hometown. In Cali now.
Let them keep them😊
Stealership. Everyone paying that is a traitor!
The only thing that's going to bring prices down is when the consumers say "give us a work truck w/o all the bells and whistles". The consumer has forgotten that trucks were supposed to be a work tool, not a commuter vehicle.
Yes that’s a contributing factor
That’s what the Maverick was supposed to be at $20,000 US, and I haven’t seen a single one under $30,000.
nope, its haircut time.
@Clockwork0nions market studies and greedy dealers decide who would buy them first and then set the price. When the first Maverick was set to be sold under 20k dollars, I would have looked at one to replace my small compact car. But prices quickly shot up when they hit the market and popularity. When interest rate ease down, many Americans will be shopping for new. But with the population waiting for lower rates and lower prices it most likely will be a feeding frenzy as the market picks up in affordable easy on the gas vehicles.
Even with the bels and whistles they aren't worth more than 60gs
Prices are outrageous! How can the average middle class family afford these prices. I’m in Texas, most people I know are keeping their paid off cars as long as they can. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees this insanity!
It’s out of reach for so many who, 10-15 years ago, could have afforded
Because nowadays they’re not considered average middle-class🤷♂️🍀
I hate my current car, bought a Jeep because it was literally the only new car I could afford 6 years ago. Hasn’t been the greatest car. I’m used to the old Fords, but with today’s prices I’ll probably drive this Jeep forever because it would be cheaper to just replace motor etc than buy something new. I’ve been trying to get back into a truck and sadly I’ve seen 15-20 years old trucks going for 20-25k which is insanely priced as well. Your screwed on all ends as far as cars go. It’s literally cheaper just keeping and replacing broken parts as needed
I bought a Toyota RAV 4 LE AWD 2024 $30505 and could not be more happy
The goal of the governments is to get people out of their private vehicles WEF style and onto public transit. This is done by making it unaffordable by: interest rates, taxation, vehicle capital cost, insurance costs, fuel costs, maintenance costs, income tax. No disposable money left. The solution WEF style is 15 minute cities. No need for private transportation.
Are auto manufacturers and dealers working with the government to bankrupt their own companies? 🤔 Every year they raise the prices of their own vehicles, add markups and add-ons. I could be wrong but my theory is the government is raising interest rates to force manufacturers to lower prices.
Without usable public transit in most places, that's simply not going to work.
Good ol’ Klaus !!
Klaus better not be running around in his limousine, because the people are going to take it from him. After they beat the shit out of him.
"Fossil" fuels⛽️ are the lifeblood of capitaIism. It isn't about saving the planet, it's about destroying Western cuIture and economic systems, which prevent the current adaptations of Marxism from taking root. "CIimate change" is part of a multipronged attack along with "usefuI ¡diots of the revolution" migrants, LGBTQ+ 🏳️🌈 , DEI, Feminism, BLM, etc...
"The issue isn't the issue. The issue is the revolution."
Ford ceo: Do a $20% reduction under msrp! Ford dealers: Let's do a 40% " market adjustment "
Yes it feels that we just can’t win
How about a 20% Reduction , in CEO pay !!!
Can't afford
@thomasmadden2258 Sounds alot Like Uncle Sam !!! SMH !!!
How about 40% reduction under true invoice and fire the CEO.
Outrageous prices, and crap quality😥
Exactly
Yes, utter garbage and terrible quality. America needs to get their act together. Other nations and countries are waaaaaaaaaaay better
My mother tried to buy a new explorer this past weekend it on the website was listed at 31k when they got to the dealer they tacked on another 7k in fees and also tried to claim things on her current car were broken and offered an extremely low trade in offer for a car that everything works on. Needless to say they lost a sale
I used to be a Ford customer I'm ashamed of them putting forth this garbage 🗑
Cheers
Just stick to an older Ford. I have one and it's still going strong I have 144k miles on a 2014 XLT
@@gustavobarrera4415 I agree with that
I never get to use that trash bin 😒
A vehicle marked down $20k from a massively overpriced MSRP isn't worth even a first look.
I say screw them all, just walk away. Keep what you have, promise it was built much better than the crap they are making today for WAY more money. Screw them all.
"Let them eat cake".
The consumer
haha
A repeat of the 2007/08 financial crisis is upon us 😞
It is a bit of a tough time
The lessons are never learned.
It’s going to be way worse
You may be right! All of these turbo charged 4 and 6 cylinder engines wont last longer then the loan terms. People will default when they can’t afford a $20,000 repair bill.
@@Pb_Slinger Especially once the warranty runs out! Look at the guy’s who are currently on their 2nd or 3rd engine repair with Toyota Tundra’s that’s $30K a pop.
$50,000 ,,, my house in 2006 cost me $50,000
That puts this all in perspective
They need to drop them all by 50% then they might start selling. Why would people give them nearly what it costs to buy a house for a truck that depreciates fast! Keep it up folks until they drop 50% or more these prices are way over priced!
Yes indeed
Because the average family home in Canada is $800k so an $80k truck is what it is.
The only fix is a recession to come back to reality. Crash incoming 😢
Really , who in the F would buy that Escape for the same money that you can buy a Honda , Toyota , Mazda or even a Subaru for in the same class ?
Makes no sense to me
Actually less money.
Even for 1/2 the money !@@carmenvanek5754
*$90,000* for a truck?!
Sadly, yes
Insanity
I work at a Ford dealer in Detroit.. prices have not come down and wont come down much. Dont be fooled.
Then they will be keeping them. I am getting quite comfortable in my used paid off vehicle and starting to wonder why I would ever buy a new overpriced vehicle.
You’re wrong. Ford is in huge trouble, and prices will plummet regardless of what you mistakenly believe. Lower volumes and ridiculous UAW contracts ensure that costs of production will continue to increase. Legacy auto is seeing diseconomies of scale unlike anything they’ve ever seen before. It’s going to get bloody.
I should add that you have an interest in not telling the truth because you make money off of higher prices. I’m not sure if you’re misinformed or disingenuous.
25k for a f150 is ok
Meanwhile they decay on the lot, 2 yrs baking in the sun, suffering the weather makes the well used without mileage.
overpriced GARBAGE
I thought my daughter was crazy paying 60k for an A spec RDX during Covid. Compared to a Ford she got a bargain. 😂😂
Yes
That Bronco😂
65K for a toy barbie car???
They should at least paint it pink and put some Tinkerbell stickers on it.😅
Haha
Bought a used 2022 Escape AWD Titanium w/ under 20K miles. Got it home, took it out a few days later and the check engine light came on! Dealer I bought it from refused to take it back. Took it to a Ford dealer, left it there for 2 weeks, they replaced the purge valve under warranty. Drove it a couple of times, check engine light back on. Took it back for several more days and they come back and say the EVAP canister is broken due to a road hazard, and they won't fix it under warranty. Said it would be $900+ USD! Found a local dealer that would sell me the canister for $300, replaced it myself, then sold it for a slight loss when everything was added up. The EVAP canister was located right on the bottom of the vehicle, driver side protected only by a "cardboard" type cover. Seems like a bad design decision, cheap plastic charcoal canister required for emissions inspection located where it can easily be damaged then they won't cover under warranty and want to charge you $900 to repair! Ford stinks, never buy another again.
Wow, thanks for sharing. That’s not good. I appreciate the story.
A friend got a 23 equionix and out the door is near 50k. Not even fully optioned. I'd rather buy a huffy.
Nice
$90,000 for F-150 ? WTF ? I would not pay half of that ! O well -->
It’s pure silliness
In my 70's was ready to buy my last vehicle....priced me out by 20 - 30 grand. Done..done.
And driving the old car or truck generally accomplished the same task
I'm not young either. We just put a deposit on a base model Toyota Corolla, it's a long lasting and relatively inexpensive car. It's just mostly the missus and me and groceries so no need for a " hauler ", just basic affordable transportation.
“You will own nothing and be happy”
Thanks
The cheapest interior is ford. Rented a Ford suv while in Michigan and I was shocked how cheap interior was! It was as if they just used cheapest plastic and glued it on with Elmer glue.
Haha tackle box grade
They are not the only ones...
Just bought a GMC Denali..
Top of the line????? Ha
No power fold mirrors...
No power rear slider window....
No lock on the glovebox....
No power telescopes/tilt wheel...
Came with a hitchbar with NO RECEIVER.. Priced it on parts---$565 throwaway bar and they want $895 for a real hitch.. >> should gave me credit for that piece of crap & charged me $300 for a real hitch>>>>
Couple 3-4" holes in side of bed & where sides meet bulkhead, gaping holes for water to come in>>> yea, I know it's a truck-- but really-----
Top of the line my butt------
Plus Canyon Denali...
Hard plastic dash...
Hard plastic door tops....
Even the Wrangker I had, had soft plastic/vinyl for those areas....
Charging more & cheaper quality or NO quality>>>>>
they blame the Mach-Es failure solely on it being electric, but its cause they made they ugliest suv of all time and banked on good sales just cause they slapped a Mustang emblem on it, ruined the history of the mustang and it pissed people off
Yes it really should have been a new model and it tarnished the name
Boycot all crooked companies
That’s one tactic for sure.
No more saving these company. There greed is going to lose alot of jobs. And the dealers are the ones thats going to pay.
Workers and union have done their share to cash out and watch it burn down. Oh well, they earned it.
Yes for sure
Don’t feel bad for dealerships. They screwed the customers with their outrageous add-ons for past three years and many still do till today. So they can feel the pain for all I care. Till they drop their prices, not buying.
@@songj0056 Stealerships days are numbered regardless, direct sales from OEMs will replace them, it's simpler, way faster better experience. They don't add any value especially when cars don't need regular maintenance as BEVs don't.
I'm so concerned, can't sleep at night 🤣🤣
Haha I see
The tax payer will pay for their bail out.
It may happen
Some will lobby and there will be a political kickback.
Just paid off my 2014 f150 4x4, will drive it til the wheels fall off
Great cost effective way to
A 2014?
You won't have long to wait for the wheels to start falling off.
My last Ford I had the belt tensioner wheel fell off and I toasted the engine because I had to keep going to get to a safe neighborhood.
Forb going bankrupt = NO MORE WARRANTY
My 2002 Ford F350 XLT Crew Cab Power Stroke just three days ago turned over to 38,000 miles. "Barely Broke In" by diesel standards. In the fall of 2001 when no one would buy anything, I paid $37,480.00 for it fully loaded. It is still in mint condition and garage-babied.
With the absolute sticker shock shown here, me and my F350 are gonna be together for a long, long time!😂
Broncos are total crap.Wind noise . Horrible ride.
Rough and tumble
These companies/dealers are smoking crack if they think the average person is buying any of these vehicles.
Definitely not the average Joe like me. I would love to have one. But priced me out of the market right now
Ford needs to start making shopping carts. Especially with larger wheels for off sidewalks.
They have no one to blame but themselves they seen dollar signs and it backfired.
That includes the workers voting for unsustainable union contract. Everyone is cashing out, top to bottom, RIP Legacy Auto.
Indeed
Plus , As the Asian brands came in , and the Big 3 started losing market share . The UAW workers only cared about " their " $$ . NOT that all the Asian brands were getting well known for reliability . And , that more were sold to AMERICANS , yearly . Still now , the UAW cares about $$ , no matter the junk going out , or the insane pricing . @@Mrbfgray
@@Mrbfgray yeah
Saw
when is a deal not a deal? when you're buying a rolling hunk of junk😂
High prices, poor quality, I’ll be remaining on the sidelines with my more refined rock solid, now 233k mile, 14 year old Accord
Can’t go wrong with that
My 2017 4Runner with 100k runs perfect, paid it off a couple years ago. Prbly run for another 100k.
This ridiculous some need to fire or commander and chief
I’m in Arizona. Bronco Raptor MSRP + $20,000 dealer markup.
Grape charge
That would be a no go for this cowboy
We are looking for a truck and don’t see deals anywhere. They don’t want to lower the prices
Will the batteries of EV’s lose their service life while sitting on the lots for a year or more not being used?
Shelf life….yes
All the nanny tech in new vehicles is infuriating. Give me a reliable truxk that i can fix on my own.
Automakers work for the government not the consumer
Yes they do and that’s why bailouts seem to happen in very few years
If Toyota were allowed to bring the Hilux Champ to the US it would sell in huge numbers but its spec isn't compatible with US laws.
***These idiots and their EV development adds $20K onto the price of every ICE vehicle they sell. We are all paying for EVs weather we want to or Not
Let them back up on their lots. There is not a vehicle made worth more than 30k.
$190,000... omg
I know, right?
ROTFLMAO just bought a 2020 Lexus GS 350 base model 20k miles one owner no accidents for $24,000.00 cash...lol
Nice
That's awesome, only way to buy a vehicle is cash. No payments or outrageous interest. Good for you!!
My 2001 F150 super crew has 200k on it. It's paid for and still runs great ! New vehicles are a rip off.
Rangers cost MORE than F150s should.
Looking back, i got my 20 Tundra for 51 000 CAD. That was a steal. I owned ine Ford, i will NEVER EVER own a second. Ford is absolute junk.
Tundra was a great choice. The old 5.7 is a work horse and the new 3.4 is fun and time will tell on the durability. I have the faith
As long as fools keep paying these prices, the prices will remain high.
Yes yes yes buyers caused this
$65K for a 2 Door Bronco w. 4cyl. EcoBoost? Seriously? 😂😂😂. 😮....
Plus extra fees and taxes looks like over 70
I would never buy anything from Ford with a 2.7 . This engine has a rubber band driving the oil pump. All of it running in motor oil. When the rubber band breaks, it's done. I suspect it would last about 98k miles. You Tubes " I Do Cars " has a video on the subject.
Sounds like a brutal design and that’s also why the Ecosport is a disaster too. Oil pump driven by a belt?
The problem is in a few years these trucks will still be 30k-40 used with 100k miles. What banks going to give the average person a 72 month loan for a vehicle like that. This is a long term problem not just a now problem. This is just a disaster in the waiting. Thanks for the videos speaking the truth brother.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.
i keep rolling my 1981 oldsmobiles. keep you 100 000 $ trash truck. your right people are not fool anymore.
Too funny, I agree way over priced-I was a Ford dealer in Michigan in the 90 s selling F 150 s xlt for 14,000 ,ceo Farley said you need to make 125K a year to afford their trucks now- based on other costs to -Housing , food , car -the industry is dead- when the average guy cant afford a basic truck-repos way up- and going higher-I went to the auctions in Detroit every week and watched 1000 cars a week go through the repo lines of Ford motor credit and GMAC-in 2 years you wont recognise the world-auto and Home owners Insurance the next shoe to drop-going through the roof ,TIC TOC =BOOOOOOM -The world was far better off when Henry Ford only paid 5 bucks a day wage-its not how much you make- its what you can buy, with what you make thats important
EVERYONE knows cars are overpriced so I dont understand why prices don’t go down.
Yes indeed
I own a 4Runner with 425,500 miles. I took care of her, but she is getting old. If I actually knew someone who would properly restore....I don't; but at least I would have a rebuilt engine, noise mitigation and all the little stuff fixed. I would pay that rather than buy a 4Runner with a lawn mower engine. EPA has ruined these companies. Problem is that even though I know mechanics, they are getting rich right now so a proper restoration is damn near impossible. Paid one joker $525 to replace my leaking Valve cover gaskets!!! Lasted about about 6 months. Shaudy work and over-confident pillheads. I'm screwed. Guess I will buy a hooptie
They do run a long time
The first Lariat was a custom order that was not picked up …Also those are not tie downs on the hood, they are tire guides. Yes Ford has increased the price of their product to rapidly and it is not working for their potential customers.
Ford rangers are fine. Give me a full truck bed, and NA. I don't want that turbo crap on a work truck. Also give me a regular cab plz.
Ok, well you just described everything the Ranger is not. Nissan Frontier got you covered though. I had one, it's a good truck.
And a frame
Cars will be the new trucks.
Remove trunk lid, add bungee cords and straps.
Nice
Welcome to the world of Bidenomics. Tent ⛺️ = House. Auto 🚙= Apartment House.😅
Haha
7 trillions debt left from the 🤡
Politics aside still have idiots paying outrageous prices and financing for 80 months at 7% plus…fueling the industry. People just need to stop buying all together.
Henry Ford is rolling in his grave
Yes he is
How are all these auto execs so stupid? 80k for a work truck, EVs are a completely impossible market. They are clueless
I'm keeping my 18 year old stick shift Pontiac (Toyota inside) Vibe. A bullet proof engine, great reliability, screen free, non turbo- simple, rugged and affordable. Unless the auto makers offer something very similar, I'll keep it until I fall off my perch.
Easy to maintain, that’s important
Even if the manufactured dropped prices 25% …prices still too high!
50% is still nuts with insurance and all.
These prices are great. They should be even more so even more people can not buy them.
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cheers
I hope ford go's under with the rest of the Steeler-ships, Maybe some one will buy them all out who realize all Americans are not rich
The writing is on the wll for EV's - biggest waste of industrial capital this century.Govts are going to have to listen to the people.Hybrid was the sensible step to take but the powers that be thought otherwise.I am sticking with my 2019 VW Golf that was 9 months old when i bought it for almost 60% of original list price.I love it!!!😎
Yes it is going to be an interesting time
My Uncle bought a Ford Maverick and it has spent more time in the shop with electrical problems. I would stay the hell away from any EV.
Thanks. I am looking to buy a high end / ton truck, but am watching all you utubers to find the sweet spot on when to buy. I can afford to buy whatever I want, but why pay more? You are a great help and I like your collaboration with the others on the state of the automotive and general economic situation. The reason some people have money is they aren't loose with it. keep up the good work.
Right on!
Duh that is not true I was on a Ford dealership yesterday the escapes about 32 is still overpriced though
Now days when you buy a new vehicle, you don’t look like your doing well….. You look like a fool who throws his money away. 😂😂😂
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Most are getting repoed now. Record numbers
They think people are very very not smart.I would never buy a vehicle that cost 80 GS.I Will keep using my car until it dies!
All these EVs parked for months on the lot need to have their batteries kept at a certain state of charge.
Good luck doing that in the dead of winter.
You'll need to warm them up in the service bay for hours before they'll hold a charge.
Do that for every EV on your lot.
Wow! Dispensing raw fuel??? And the Band Aid was approved for production. Cats out of the bag now. Why not fix the leaking injector problem?? Why is anything less than that accepted?
100 percent agree. What’s with the band aid?
Since The Lovely Bride and I don't care about being entertained by any vehicle an AM/FM radio with a couple of speakers is fine, we can both read a road map and road signs, so we don't need GPS, rubber mats and manual seats, windows and transmissions work too. We only need the basics in any truck or car for that matter so a "fleet" level pickup with real 4X4 capability would be ideal for our uses if we had any intention of buying anything new. Thankfully though, the two pickups The Lovely Bride and I currently own are both paid for, and both give us everything we need and we don't have a truck payment that exceeds the one we pay on time every month for our home.
That’s a great idea and my video tomorrow actually addresses this and follow the dollar over the specific color or package or set of options.
Cellphones read GPS
you don't need the one in car
@@kathleenking47 We've only rarely found the need for GPS on our phones such as when driving (looking for a specific VA parking garage in Baltimore, for the first time, was a thing I must admit to) "in the big city" but thanks to street surface work the GPS could only get us to within three blocks of the hospital. The lady in the phone nearly had a melt down and had to be put in a time out because we were unable to/refused to follow her directions. After that, we just figured it out on our own and by following the detour signs. I know of several folks who have totally freaked out when their in-car/phone GPS systems did not/could not put them at "the front door" of their desired destinations because such systems do not, and as far as I know, cannot keep up with road work changes to an already mapped traffic pattern.
I'm totally done with looking at new trucks or SUV's. The manufacturers are in a true rip off mode and I didn't think I'd see the day. They cave to the unions and give them whatever they want and expect us to pick up the outrageous tab. I'll drive my 2015 until the thing falls apart.
header said "Ford Going Broke, Get a Deal"
then the whole video is a rant about prices.
Where's the Deals?
You can get a deal, but then you would own a Ford.
That’s a fair comment
Ford pickups now cost more than what I paid for my house 😂… insanity…. I can’t believe these prices….
Still waaay to much. Going to keep driving my 2004 Buick
Nice
“Ford is going bankrupt.” Why do these liars get recommended to my feed. What a ridiculous take. Ford is, and continues to be one of the most successful car companies in the world.
Let’s wait and see
Never ever bye a Ford. Honda or Toyota.
Forgot the markups!
Yes
There are still markups where I live. People still buying this is madness.
Mach E is a great car if you want an EV ..... and so many just don't
That’s true. Niche market.
If it was $25k it would sell a ton more. What people don't want is $65k EVs.
@Banzai51 it's still a great car at $40,000 that is what we got ours for. 2023 premium with extended range battery.
Until the lariats get under 50K screw it. Keeping the old truck is like getting free money screw it again.
Indeed
Dealers are coming around on inventory that has been sitting. I recently had a dealer price me a ‘24 XLT with the FX4 package for $45k. No miles on it. I believe sticker price was $62k.
That sounds like they were a bit more motivated
And yet in California Ford dealers still want 10K markup on some vehicles
The cause is the brain dead management, not just at Ford.
I work in manufacturing and these vehicles don't have to cost more than $30k- $35k considering the numbers that they're produced in. The problem is and has been in management for decades.
What's happening today is simply the maturation of their incessant incompetency over the decades.
The death knell first sounded loud with the 4 door Chevelle followed by the 4 door Charger.
The Charger worked because there was no other choice. But the designers and engineers are out of touch.
They're out of touch by the direction of the brain dead managements.
Every manufacturer has stopped the EV production. Only TESLA is selling.
Yes that’s pretty true at this point but if you read the “EV” based publications, it’s all roses, lol
They need to try 30,000.00 a truck they made of plastic. They might sell then.
Yes for sure
I own a 2017 F150 4X4 FX4 XLT 302A 5.0L COYOTE 93k miles on it. Fully paid for, and I will never trade it or get rid of it. It listed for $48k in 2017 but it was a demo so i paid 43k.