COLD STEEL'S DEADLIEST WEAPON THE NATCHEZ BOWIE
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2022
- Understanding the history of the "Natchez Bowie" is this theme of this episode.
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What I like about Lynn is he is always quick to share what he has learned and from who. He also gives credit where its due. Stickman, great job carrying the torch and staying true.
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This is what I love about cold steel...
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Other knife companies: "We're so proud of this knife, it's durable, compact size, we made it for survival and bushcraft, a good all-rounder."
Cold Steel: "This knife is made for carving up people. Look how it cut through these ribs. This is what I carry every day."
I have always held Cold Steel in high regard. In an era of bushcraft knives I'm glad you are staying true by providing us with excellent self defense weapons. Thanks guys!
For those saying "iZ a cAbLE tAnG sO iT sUcKs" I present the following quote from a Cold Steel Natchez distributor on Blade Forums :
"The cable tang in our Laredo and Natchez Bowie knives is used primarily as a shock distributor. The cable acts almost like a guitar string and sends shock out the end of the pommel, rather than into the handle and subsequintly the hand. This promotes longer life in the handle, and makes it less likely that the user will take shock directly into his hand, allowing him to maintain a more secure grip. Since these are primarily designed as fighting bowies, a secure grip is extrelemy important. If you have watched Lynn's video on using the bowie's handguard for defense, then you can see how much shock this knife may take in a combat situation.
It also makes the knife a little blade heavy, which moves the "sweet spot" of the knife further fvorward and gives it greater impact.
Manufacturing the knife with the cable tang is a more expensive process than simply making the knife with a full tang, so this is done with intent and design. It is definately not a cost-saving effort. We have never seen a cable tang break under normal usage."
* Find something else to LARP about you "knife expert" wannabees. 😂*
Yep. The things people get hung up on, like the type of steel, the full tang, those are features that matter greatly on field craft knives. When Ethan Becker, legend that he is, redesigned the ASEK pilot knife, he removed useless features like the saw teeth on the back and made his BK10 "Crewman" full tang, as one of the weak spots on the ASEK...was the rat tail tag, and there are instances where it just snapped at the handle when it was used in the way it was intended to be. Not a destructive test. Not babying the knife. Realistic, reasonable use that is expected of the knife.
When you might be expected to cut and pry your way out of an aircraft cockpit, or to make fire and shelter after you've ejected over a woodland area, using tough steel and making the blade thick and full tang are features that matter.
On something like a dagger, where all you have to do is stick another person with it, having a full tang and the most robust of steels is not a necessity. And people who treat it like it is...obviously don't know nearly as much about knives as they think they do. They've heard something, somewhere, pertaining to a certain type of blade, and are now parroting it out of line, thinking they're smart, without taking into consideration important factors like...what's the philosophy of use of that knife? Is it a survival/bushcraft blade? Is it a tactical/self-defense blade? Is it an all-rounder, utility, "jack of all trades, master of none" blade?
I don't even come close to what I'd consider a knife expert, but as someone who has had to research weapons and equipment, including knives, as a writer, I try to do my homework diligently and not try to come off as smart. I try to talk less and listen more. Listen to people who are in the know - knifemakers and knife engineers like Lynn Thompson, Andrew Demko, Phil Gibbs and the aforementioned Ethan Becker, or members of the military who actually had to carry knives for a living, like Nutnfancy, Brent0331 or TheGruntPerspective.
Even among experts, opinions can vary, but as a rule of thumb, absolutes are avoided. Absolutes are generally the false expert's bailiwick. Absolutes like "It MUST have a full tang, it MUST have this or that steel".
I don't know the effectiveness of the cable tang's shock-absorption first hand, but it very much is more expensive and complex to make a cable tang and not a full-tang knife. So whether it works IRL as well as it should work on paper is a different topic, but to groan and roll one's eyes at the mere mention of a cable tang is ignorant. It has a purpose, and that purpose makes sense within the blade's POU as advertised by Cold Steel - a fighting knife. It's dishonest to claim that Cold Steel thought they were slick by "hiding" a cable tang in the handle, in order to swindle their customers, rubbing their hands evilly and hoping no one was gonna break the knives apart (either on purpose or by accident) and see it. It's a purposeful attempt at innovation, even if it doesn't turn out as intended.
Cold Steel has a reputation for being a budget company, selling affordable knives to people who can't or won't spend more on knives of similar quality, and indeed, some of their knives very much do fit that bill.
The Laredo and Natchez aren't among them. People who buy them...don't buy them for being budget knives.
While I don't hate JOE X, Mayor Fuglycool or some of the other similar channels doing knife destruction tests, I think many people, particularly fake experts, take their videos as gospel and think like this:
"If the blade is relatively intact - it's good.
If it breaks - it's bad."
Blades can be everything from an axe to a scalpel.
Not every knife needs to be a bushcraft knife to chop and baton wood with.
Not every knife needs to "prove itself worthy" after smashing 10 rocks, 20 bricks and digging through 5 walls with its blade.
Read about the Sandbar fight that happened near Natchez, Mississippi. Jim Bowie was involved in the fight supporting a family that was involved in a feud with another family. Bowie was shot twice and stabbed once with a sword cane but he put his bowie to work and survived. An amazing piece of frontier history and what makes the man a legend. A fitting name for this knife.
Jim Bowie was a badass. Its a great story. He wasn't even supposed to be in the fight, but would up winning it pretty much single handedly against multiple assailants.
@@TheWartHawg One of the guys that shot him carried him to safety and got him a doctor. Duels make no sense me but at east the men brave enough to partake had a sense of honor to them.
@@justingrady1964 I think the world would be a better place if we had duels now …. A lot fewer politicians and other annoying people, also … That’s usually how men acted at least when they were really men. Once the fight is over …. Well they could be friends .
There was a man named Dahlgren, banker and plantation owner who carried the tip of a Bowie in his skull until he died at 80 or so. He was also missing 1.5 fingers from the same fight. I worked at the house he owned until post Civil War. Dunleith. This fight was on the Hill, meaning right in town. There's no plaque for it, though.
@@floydvaughn836the fight was on the sandbar which is now on the Louisiana side of the river since the Corp of engineers rerouted the river and straightened it out forming the old river lake and Giles Island. It has a historical marker there about the fight. I'm from Natchez but I wasn't around back then but this is what I know.
Love the history on the Natchez. It gives you an appreciation of how important it was to carry a knife back then. Just as you should carry one at all times this day.
I love the Bowie design. The Laredo is one of my all-time favorites from Cold Steel.
Ooooh boy! I love this new series! As someone who's outdoors a lot, I can tell you these knives are the best. Nothing compares to the lock strength of a Cold Steel folder! Keep up the good work!
ive always liked bowies, as a Canadian ive only ever used one for self-defence once, but they always come out on top as hunting and bushcraft knives
Only once? Here in Texas we use them for self-defense daily. It’s like the Wild West down here. Lol j/k Once is one time too many. Stay safe.
You can't just leave us hanging like that.
"Only once" is still too many times
Have this in the San Mai, one of absolute favorite pieces by them. Terrific quality and always makes a great conversation piece.
I own many Cold Steel products. I have been a fan from the beginning when the adds for their knives were published in motorcycle magazines. They only had the tantos at that time. I loved them then and now. Bowie's, and all your deadly products I hold in high regard.
I bought one of these a long time ago and I love it. It is my go to for intimidating folks with bad intentions.
My Dad and I have Been Supporters Of Cold Steel For years. Always intrested in what's new and what's up.. and will continue too. Shout out from Southern Colorado" Stay Sharp"..
My 1st Cold Steel was a used
Recon Tanto in Carbon V steel.
On a creekbank in Indiana in late January or early February we dug a hole approximately 30 inches deep and 14 inches in diameter to bury our minnow bucket.
(and not have to carry it back and forth across a massive cornfield) after digging that hole with the Tonto -- the blade would still shave the hair off your arm -- and no chips! I searched and bought every carbon V product I could get my hands on!!! By that time Cold Steel could not Source Carbon V steel anymore. I have been a massive fan of Cold Steel products ever since! Lynn was definitely serious about his guarantees & he stood behind his products for sure! I was sad to hear that he sold cold-steel. I used to get a "Special Projects" catalog from Lynn about 4 or 5 times a year. The new owners of Cold Steel don't even answer their phone.
I was waiting so long now for the Natchez 3V that I cancelled my order and grabbed the even more pretty Natchez SK-5 with Cocobolo and brass hilt instead - in like new condition for 1/3 of the price. Boy what an unbelievable Bowie! You must hold it in your hand to experience the nicest balance point ever. I really love it ! It makes me smile every time I take it into my hand. Your first Counterpoint XL G10 in Aus 8 is on its way to me as well. My 14th CS mega folder. I love CS !
I don't have this behemoth, but the Cold Steel fixed blades that I do own are a 1st edition Drop Forged Survivalist, Kobun, Recon Tanto San Mai 3, all 12 of the Kitchen Classics, and 7 of the Commercial Series. These fixed blades, whether for the kitchen or the outdoors, are all business! I have put many relatives and friends onto the Cold Steel fixed blade knives, and like me, they love them! Keep up the good work, Cold Steel!
Good job with these videos. You really deliver. Cold steel getting better and better
Loving all the info you guys are putting out on these knives , deff wouldn't mind adding a Counter point too the collection either.
Cold Steel is my favorite, most-relied upon brand of cutlery & defensive weaponry. They’ve never disappointed me. These giveaways are pretty epic, too!
They were....
@@dick_richards I have noticed the quality has gone down, it's not the sharpest knife out of the box anymore.
@@joeking4389 Sad. RIP Cold Steel
When they switched from CTS-XHP to S35VN is when I noticed the drop in quality I think it was 2019
@@RadDadisRad no it was selling the Company to China lol.
The XHP issue was that they couldn't source enough to keep their product runs going. Carpenter couldn't keep up with the orders for their XHP in all the knife co's at the time.
XL Voyager Vaquero serrated, left pocket. XL Counterpoint serrated in the right. Well armed in a NO gun carry country, to keep my wife and me safe. Been safe for 35 years now, thanks to CS, and Thank you Lynn!!
the things you awesome guys have put out are just second to none . thank you for your awesome service everyone at cold steel ! . i am going to get one of these one day ! you people are the best !
Excellent Bowie knife. Love all the information passed along. Great work on this video!
Liked, already subscribed, shared, and man!!! That blade is stunning!!!! Great video as always!!!!! Thanks for the opportunity!!!
Bill Bagwell was also an influence on me for the bowie knife. When cold steel came out with their bowies I was in hog heaven. There is nothing like a foot of steel in front of you.
Doing a great job Stick 👍🏻 and so glad to see Lynn still involved
Such a cool design! Iconic and beautiful I love my Laredo might have to grab one of these!!! Great video as always.
I can't say I'm a big fan of large sharp objects, but it's interesting how Lynn explains a thought process behind the design, which is interesting to me from the engineering perspectives.
I love this series! Great video as always
I have been a fan of Cold Steel for almost 30 years since my first tanto voyager. Carrying the short SRK now and love it. Look forward to always seeing Lynn.
Love Bowie knives. My father always carried one during hunting.
What an awesome knife. Definitely going to need one of those.
Always a great product and demonstration of quality!
should make a fulltang version
Every Cold Steel folder I've owned has been awesome. Need to try out a fixed blade really soon ‼️
I am in lust with the 4" counterpoint! Count me in on this give away! I love the Natchez Bowie, I just can't afford one. I've carried Cold Steel knives all over, including a Leatherneck Tanto in Iraq. Love them.
cool i carry the cold steel hide out neck blade.i got real bad arthritis in feet and knees and need some leverage when im st 7 11 i had this big steroid thug threaten me and i was just standing online.guy walked right over 2 me started hanging me bags if chips said here you go man eat this..he walked in store saw me and said look at this mother fucker to his buddies then he said he would knock me out. ssud he was going to be wsiting outside for me.
Been a Cold Steel fan for many years and I have many going back to I guess the 70’s.
My latest favorites are the drop forged series in 52100 steel.
Keep on making the great swords, knives and axes!
Wow, you have some big ass knife throwing skills sir! Thanks for the interesting knife knowledge! Liked and shared.
Love the history as well as the functionality of such an iconic knife
The Natchez is an awesome blade, as are all the Cold Steel blades I’ve used.
Gotta get one of these. Love the ol school look of the Natchez bowie. Awesome.
Awesome blade, keep it up Cold Steel! Counter Point is on my list, gotta get one!
Love Cold Steel, first bought a trailmaster when I was a young grunt back in '93. Never let me down. Cut through anything, from jungle in Thailand to outback in Oz.
Cold steel are an institution I love your products and have many of your knives swords machetes and sticks! Good stuff guys and greetings from the UK!
Same! From Australia
Liked and shared best knives in the world, nothing cuts deadlier. I trust my life on them. Please Lynn keep doing what your doing. I could really use a Counter Point
Little did he know, the Frontier Bowie would be his crowning achievement. Nothing competes with its strength, utility, balance, and performance. It's a true masterpiece.
Cold steel , best knives ever !!!! . got myself a spartan last week, keep up the good work👌
Ismail from India , the way u make the art of swords always inspire me so detailing and i wish I could own one. Sadly not available in India.
Absolutely the most beautiful knife old Steel has made! I have the laminated stainless and the 01 version, and I carry a Laredo bowie and these days their Drop Forged 9.5” Bowie- please do make this in a slightly longer blade with a sharpened back edge. The reason I carried the Laredo over the Natchez was because the old model Laredo has a fully sharpened back clip! I definitely wish Lynn would make a replica of the Hell’s Belle. I’ve started carrying the Drop Forged Bowie because it’s so flat and handy, the blade is just long enough at 9.5” for serious work, BUT it NEEDS a sharpened clip! Almost all my “carry” knives are Cold Steel.
Got the Natchez in 0-1 steel, it is one hell of a blade and will serve you well in any situation.
What a beautiful knife! I'll have to see about picking one of these up.
I have this but got it for it's look.doesnt look "lethal"/intimidating to me compared to all my other Cold Steel blades but now wow, yes I have it! I love Cold Steel, Anytime Anywhere!
I always wanted one of these. Just a gorgeous deadly blade as there ever was and nobody does it like Cold Steel
I love this counter point. Such a badass knife, If I could "choose" to win this would be the one Hands down... 👍👍👍👍👍
Just bought my first ka-bar and this Bowie knife is next on my list ❤
Before watching this video I would have said my Magnum Warcraft Tanto was the deadliest Cold Steel knife I own. Now I think I may have underestimated my Natchez Bowie. Might still give the slight tactical edge to the all black G-10 handled Tanto, yet I think the Natchez outdoes it for sheer piercing power.
I have both of them and totally love them and each one is equally awesome in its own right 👍
Cold steel if my favorite knife brand! You guys rock!! Good job guys..
Always nice to see a love for the Bowie.
You're working hard Keith!
Great job! 💯
Very nice putting this one on my list of must haves
Love the counterpoint, had an xl one of these too lol it was in 8a though and was among the collection stolen from me. Like the Espada I've always kind of wanted a medium version for a more "civil" carry option. If I do end up getting one I'm sharpening that false edge this time haha
Sorry to hear that, fuck thieves. Atleast you have a good taste in knives.
The Laredo and Natchez Bowie's are without a doubt 2 of the best designed Bowie knives on the market today
I love the look and I will be looking into getting one . Great Knife .
I absolutely love this video series
Just stumbled on your channel I love it
Here's my 2 cents for what it's worth.
As always this is my personal opinion.I find the cable tang hate fascinating.
I've seen the Natchez and the Laredo go through hell and be subjected to the most insane abuse and destruction testing you can imagine...yet in all my time here I have never seen a cable tang fail.
Is it possible? Sure. I believe that anything made by man can eventually be destroyed by man (that man is probably Robert LOL) . But I have yet to see it happen.
I've seen a whole bunch of knives tested to destruction countless times. I've seen blades snap and handles crack, but the cable tang has survived everything I've seen so far.
Personal taste is a good reason not to buy a knife and I will never argue with that. If you say "I just don't like it" that's fine with me, a knife might be the best darn thing in the world, but if it just doesn't suit your personal tastes or needs then don't buy it. That's cool. But to claim that it's weak or somehow unsafe is intellectually dishonest.
The cable tang in Natchez Bowie knives is used primarily as a shock distributor. The cable acts almost like a guitar string and sends shock out the end of the pommel, rather than into the handle and subsequently the hand. This promotes longer life in the handle, and makes it less likely that the user will take shock directly into his hand, allowing him to maintain a more secure grip. Since these are primarily designed as fighting bowies, a secure grip is extremely important. If you have watched Lynn's video on using the bowie's handguard for defense, then you can see how much shock this knife may take in a combat situation.
It also makes the knife a little blade heavy, which moves the "sweet spot" of the knife further forward and gives it greater impact.
Manufacturing the knife with the cable tang is a more expensive process than simply making the knife with a full tang, so this is done with intent and design. It is definitely not a cost-saving effort. We have never seen a cable tang break under normal usage.
Contrary to what people have been posting, the cost of manufacturing a full cable tang is much more than regular full tang. It is much easier and less work to cut out 1 piece of metal than it is to go through all the process of inserting a cable tang. Sometimes the cost can be significantly higher. The Laredo Bowie was constructed on purpose to have a full cable tang not to save money but for the following reason:
For many of you who have swung a large knife and hit something at high impact you will feel the shock on your hand. The cable acts almost like a guitar string and sends shock out the end of the pommel, rather than into the handle and subsequently the hand. This promotes longer life in the handle, and makes it less likely that the user will take shock directly into his hand, allowing him to maintain a more secure grip. Since these are primarily designed as fighting bowies, a secure grip is extremely important.
The Natchez and the Laredo are designed to be fighters first and foremost. The huge advantage of the cable tang is that it changes the balance point on the knife. It's something you have to feel to appreciate.
It seems like while other knives want to "drop" in your hand, the Natchez and the Laredo want to "roll". It's hard to explain but as soon as you hold one, you'll see what I mean.
The cable tang is also an excellent option with a handle made of traditional materials. It distributes and disperses the shock, making it easier on the hand as well as the handle.
I really don't understand the fixation some people have with a full tang knife, its mostly just steel in a place where you don't want it!. yeah, its true it makes the knife stronger, but is it needed? maybe the blade with a stick tang was able to take 1000lbs in the handle, now it take 1500 lbs. Big deal, its not like a regular human can generate more than 700 lbs of torque on the blade. I'm sorry if my post sounds a little bit like a rant, it's not. It just that in this search for the ultimate indestructible blade, many people have lost sight that in reality we should be looking for the ultimate performing blade. something that combines good geometry, weight, strength, size, etc. not just a lot of steel with something that resembles an edge.
We test everything to breaking point and that cable tang just didn't break. I have every confidence in it's durability.
CAN it be broken? For sure. I'm pretty sure anyone can eventually break anything
I just haven't seen it happen...
Funny thing, the more expensive G10 version of the Laredo (like the one that Lynn always carries) doesn' t have the great shock-absorbing cable tang feature.
@@nicolaalberti7736what version are you talking about?
I have a g-10 version and it's cable tang!
@@TaqiyyaorMudarat
No, the original black G10 handle version, San Mai steel, has a rat tail tang, I don't know about yours.
It also has a black real leather sheat, unlike the more inexpensive versions with fake brown leather and than a secure ex sheat.
@@nicolaalberti7736 aha, i see, i have the 3V version, and it has a G10 handle.
But would you say a rat tail version is more preferable than a cable tang? Is it that what you are saying?
@@TaqiyyaorMudarat
I really don't know if one is better than the other.
Functionally, I think there is very little difference, as the Laredo and the Natchez are more intended to be fighting bowies rather than utilitarian/bushcraft ones like the Trail Master or the Recon Scout. However, if used for chopping wood, the cable tang should absorb more vibrations, while, about strenght and durability of the cable tang vs the rat tail tang, somebody should make a test, but imo, the rat tang should be a little more reliable (not sure, however).
Many years ago I saw on the internet (on the Cold Steel forum, if I remember correctly), an SK5 Laredo, wich was used for chopping wood, with its faux cocobolo handle broken.
This knife had the cable tang, but this doesn't necessarly mean that with the rat tang this could't have happened.
What a knife! Can’t wait to see more testing with the new 4034 version.
I haven't heard about this. Please, share some more details.
Would love to see the san Mai version of this go back on sale. The silver and black looks so much better than the normal version
They now have the CPM 3V version available. With steel guard and pommel
@@qui-gone I’ve seen it 😁 another one to add to the list haha
This is the first bowie knife I have. The VG1 san mai (discontinued ) and this is the reason I fell in love with Cold steel.
Ah, but I have the Cold Steel 1917 Frontier Bowie, and I love it. It was the biggest fighting knife in my collection, until I got a Khukuri, from Nepal :)
Always wanted one of the finer knives in your catalog, like the Gurkha kukri , or a trail master for hunting. The sword collection is awesome but way out of my budget! All in all the pieces I have are cherished!
Hell yeah !!! James Keating and Bill Bagwell are two names I haven't heard in a while. I have a Bagwell I wish I had a Keating Crossada Bowie now I need a Natchez
I have drooled over that Natchez bowie for years.
So many nice knives. You’re driving us crazy.
Love bowie too thinking real hard to get this one......need to start saving
The first coldsteel I ever got was a desprado .wicked blade thanks for the giant wishlist
Love that knife! I own lots of Cold Steel knives, but don’t have this one yet!
I recently purchased a western knives W49 large bowie from the local pawn shop and it is awesome!!! Finest carbon steel, hardwood handle, brass fittings. The finest craftmanship. It's a well balanced killing machine! I'd still like to have a natchez for my collection though.
Those Natchez Bowie knives are really sweet, I might have to treat myself to one for an early B'Day gift to myself!
I just bought the drop forged bowie 9 1/2 inch and loving it.
Jim Bowie was one of my childhood heroes, and I've always wanted a good Bowie knife. I'm getting old and still haven't bought one. Guess I should change that.
Bill is looking down from Heaven and smiling. Well done.
Interesting point when Lynn points out the advantage of this knife's range minimizing arm movement.
I have a 1982 Master Tanto San Mai III, with the brass guard and pommel. Got it when I was in the Army back then,still have it.
Awesome blade brother, love me some Cold
Love my Laredo Bowie that I bought at Cold Steel HQ 2021.
Love this video, Cold Steel has the best knives to get the job done.
Liked/shared/subscribed, the CS Trailmasters are great, I have yet to see a Natchez in person though.
Great stuff! Please giveaway the Natchez. Bowie next time haha I’d still like a 6” Holdout . I’ve bought 8 Cold Steels in the last month- cold steel is the majority of my collection- keep up the good work!
Love my tanto, Great quality Blades!
Love to see a comparison between this blade and the arkansas toothpick you make , both beutiful knives
Awesome knife and narrative!
Always liked these
I bought a Scimitar back in 05. It was the sharpest toughest knife I ever had. I would Love to had another one but I can't find one. Thank Ya God Bless
I just ordered the 1917 Frontier Bowie yesterday.And I eventually will order myself a Natchez and others.
I'm really looking forward to my delivery of the 1917, hopefully by next week! (;
I sold all my Natchez Bowies, that cable tang won't work for me, they are a nice knife, however I will go with full tang 1917 or similar design. Keep up the great work 👍👍🗡❤
Heck yeah another great video and gaw!!!
Cold steel is my go to for edc work and protection ive tried other brands and I keep coming home !
Wish I could afford this knife! I have the Wild West Bowie and love it.
Killer blade&killer vid!!
Cold steel knives are better than any other that I have had before. Bought the sr1 lite and finn wolf because of the tri ad lock and because previous knife locks have folded on my fingers doing simple and easy tasks. Blades are extremely sharp and made well