Does Tana live up to the hype?

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
  • Tana stormed onto the scene a few months ago to loads of fanfare and hundreds of PKM enthusiasts clamoring to join its waitlist. But does the Roam Research-inspired outliner live up to all the hype? Let's find out.
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Komentáře • 42

  • @mageprometheus
    @mageprometheus Před rokem +37

    Thanks. After 35 years as a software dev, I don't use anything where I don't have control of the data and backups. I'm sure they won't steal away anyone who knows what they are doing from logseq or Obsidian, but I suppose that's not their target audience. I have noticed an increasing trend for time wasting by trying to get the many plugins to work together to create highly complex workflows. I'm retired so I can play as much as I want or write my own Obsidian plugins. The CZcams gurus make never ending videos as that's one of their income streams. For people who just want some PKM it seems very easy to get sucked into system design.

    • @StevenMichels
      @StevenMichels Před rokem +4

      So true. Never pick an app that makes keeping up with its development a constant project!

    • @yaaqoubeliyyahu5783
      @yaaqoubeliyyahu5783 Před rokem +1

      Agree with you

    • @EffectiveCo
      @EffectiveCo  Před rokem +3

      I agree -- I like to stay in control of my data as much as possible, especially in this realm of things.

  • @harrisonhben
    @harrisonhben Před 7 měsíci

    thanks for the video, are you able to quick add from outside of the tana application?

  • @jeffhallum
    @jeffhallum Před rokem

    Thanks for the great review - very helpful to see how it works! Cheers from Texas!

  • @marmav
    @marmav Před rokem +4

    I used it for a while, and it is only just another note-taking app.
    It definitely cannot replace notion.... and it's not suitable for calendars/tasks. Only for daily journaling, maybe tracking books or movies... stuff like that. Mostly disappointed meh

  • @ShakeAndBakeGuy
    @ShakeAndBakeGuy Před rokem +2

    I was shocked to get an invite as soon as I did. I'm currently using it for a couple of databases that are clunky to make in my main Obsidian vault with Dataview, and I would strongly prefer it for collaborative knowledge management. However, local-first, interop and privacy are key for my needs as well, and I truly cannot wait for Datacore!

    • @meredithandfriends
      @meredithandfriends Před rokem

      Does it actually take 4 weeks like people are saying?

    • @EffectiveCo
      @EffectiveCo  Před rokem

      I'm pretty sure I was on the waitlist for a couple of months. YMMV.

    • @ToriZealot
      @ToriZealot Před rokem

      @@meredithandfriends I had to wait 10 weeks

    • @piemasta93
      @piemasta93 Před rokem

      I waited 10 minutes

  • @mr.sayfullaev
    @mr.sayfullaev Před rokem

    Thank for the interesting video!
    Very much looking forward to the invitation from Tana

  • @ericmaina6779
    @ericmaina6779 Před rokem +6

    Thanks for the video. I signed up to be included but have remained in the Tana waiting list for 2 months now. However, I'm well settled in Obsidian and doubt I need to change.

    • @EffectiveCo
      @EffectiveCo  Před rokem

      Obsidian does just about everything!

    • @MarkGoodsonCambridge
      @MarkGoodsonCambridge Před rokem

      Yeah, same here. I have access to Tana and "had a play" and keep looping back for another look but fundamentally it doesn't solve any problems for me. I'm sure super tags are very powerful but there's nothing they let me do that I can't do with Obsidian and Dataview. Plus Obsidian are working on metadata improvements, so there's a good chance they will release super tag style features. Also at one point I was outline-based (Workflowy) but I now like being able to mix & match long-form and outlines (using Outliner plugin).

  • @HippieP629
    @HippieP629 Před rokem

    I waitlisted on tana months ago. It just popped into my head today. Are only ppl making videos about it using it?

    • @EffectiveCo
      @EffectiveCo  Před rokem

      Very possible. I haven’t bought into the hype, so I wanted to really see if it was worth it. I don’t think it delivers on its groundbreaking promises unfortunately, and the loooooong waitlist only breeds discontent among an excited possible user base.

  • @StevenMichels
    @StevenMichels Před rokem +5

    Even if you like the functions, Tana seems very glitchy and not ready for prime time to me. It’s definitely an improvement over Roam, though, with its slow development and troubled founder. If you’re on Roam and don’t like Logseq, you might switch. Everyone else should stick where they are.

    • @mikhaeldito
      @mikhaeldito Před rokem +1

      That's the exact reason why Tana is still in closed beta though.

    • @EffectiveCo
      @EffectiveCo  Před rokem

      It's definitely one of the better outliners out there approachability wise. Logseq is powerful but it's very technical to use deeply.

    • @Eisesser01
      @Eisesser01 Před rokem

      Tana is still in development, of course it is not ready.

  • @amyciao1707
    @amyciao1707 Před rokem

    So many videos abt this , yet it's only available for certain people. Why not just release it for people to use and find bugs along the way and report them to develops for fixing smh

    • @EffectiveCo
      @EffectiveCo  Před rokem

      I think their marketing wants pent up demand. But if you wait too long it makes prospective customers mad.

  • @upvotecomment2110
    @upvotecomment2110 Před rokem

    They did Great Marketing for it
    But for me, it falters
    Something that tries to be everything, that ended up becoming nothing
    Not worth switching for me

  • @patho977
    @patho977 Před rokem +2

    It’s also shady that invites were given to people that generate “courses” to use Tana. You buy the course, you get an invite. So you spend money to get an invite to beta test an unfinished product.

  • @yaaqoubeliyyahu5783
    @yaaqoubeliyyahu5783 Před rokem +2

    I played around with it, but the deal breaker is information is not stored locally on my hard drive. Continue with Logseq! 😉

    • @EffectiveCo
      @EffectiveCo  Před rokem

      Agreed - same why I'm staying with Obsidian.

    • @yaaqoubeliyyahu5783
      @yaaqoubeliyyahu5783 Před rokem

      @@EffectiveCo There are many nice apps out there, eg. Notion. But here again everything is stored in their company cloud. Thats why I use Logseq/Obsidian, Omnifocus & DEVONthink.

  • @fonzing
    @fonzing Před rokem +1

    Ugh can't watch with that blinding white, dark mode please

    • @garolstipock
      @garolstipock Před rokem

      @7:30 it does have dark mode available.

  • @charlesbonfante9188
    @charlesbonfante9188 Před rokem

    Being on a waiting list for soo long and watching videos was a poor marketing play. I'm totally in with obsidian. They missed the boat on this one. The hype is not justified..... A strong pass!

    • @EffectiveCo
      @EffectiveCo  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, too much hype and too long of a waitlist aren't really that helpful in the long run.

    • @charlesbonfante9188
      @charlesbonfante9188 Před rokem +1

      @@EffectiveCo Super ineffective marketing strategy. They will regret it... Most have gone elsewhere. Pitu

  • @krzysztofomilian7295
    @krzysztofomilian7295 Před rokem +2

    Lucky me I haven't used Roam or any other tool I started with @tanainc