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The Beach Boys- I Just Wasn't Made for These Times (REACTION//DISCUSSION)
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- čas přidán 19. 08. 2021
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Gorgeous, dreamy melancholia. Brian and lyricist Tony Asher perfectly capturing Brian's state of mind in the mid sixties. A musical genius in a band with people who just didn't 'get it' the way he did. Mention no names, but we know which member of the Beach Boys in particular that we're talking about. Brian was so far ahead of his time musically, that it seemed only the Beatles were hearing the kind of things that he was in his head.
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You are actually comparing the Beach Boys to the Beatles! A total genius with songs of substance to a nothing bar band from England! That even after spending $20,000 etc. barely rose to the status of more! Plus here is John Lennon as arrogant as can be whereas Brian Wilson is just one of us.
@@nicks9776 love the beach boys but come on, the "bar band" created Tomorrow Never Knows, Strawberry Fields Forever, It's All Too Much, I Am The Walrus etc. Pushed the boundaries of music and studio techniques. Americans are so arrogant
This is the song that made me a Beach Boys fan for life, no questions asked. There is such an overwhelming sense of melancholy that pervades every second of it with the instruments, lyrics and singing (those haunting backing vocals send chills down my spine). I think this is the best song on the album.
This is my #1 song of the ‘60s. Much as I love my Beatles, Brian gets the nod for his relatable introspection and gorgeous melody with groundbreaking recording techniques.
I love this song because it perfectly describes Brian's dilemma at the time, being a musical and lyrical genius who's creatively stifled by a bunch of apes who just want to hop around barefoot on the beach singing about surfing. I consider the "Beach Boys" to be Brian Wilson and a back-up band. Without him, they mean nothing to me.
Yep that’s basically what this song is about. Mike Love & co. holding him back. See: SMiLE Sessions & avoid. Go straight to Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE from 2004. The incomplete sessions are too depressing to listen to. Better to hear the music from people who took joy in it.
I agree with you about the rest of the band not being fully on board with Brian's ambition. But 'apes' is a bit harsh. Didn't Mike lead the band and write lyrics to some of Brian's music (including Good Vibrations)? Didn't the rest of the band contribute to the gorgeous harmonies that made the BB sound? And didn't Tony Asher and Van Dyke Parks actually write other Pet Sounds and Smile lyrics to Brian's admittedly brilliant music. I saw Brian perform Smile with the Wondermints in 2004 and was entranced by it. However IMHO it is a flawed masterpiece and he has never bettered it since (yes, I acknowledge his mental health problems over the years so maybe that's the reason). These late 60s times were ideal for creativity and progression, so maybe Brian was made for them after all. Not sure he would be in 2021.
omg. "who's creatively stifled by a bunch of apes who just want to hop around barefoot on the beach singing about surfing." I literally laughed out loud. THUMBS WAY UP!!!... and AMEN to the totality of this comment.
The description of Brian’s brothers and Mike Love and Al Jardine (who were Brian’s cousins) as “apes who just want to hop around on the beach” is harsh and inaccurate (none of them ever surfed except for Dennis, and he wasn’t a big surfer) but it is definitely true that Brian was relentlessly pressured by all of the BB plus his horrible abusive father Murray Wilson to keep writing songs that would be easy radio hits and to follow that “formula” instead of changing it. Their survival depended entirely on Brian. They didn’t like the introspective creations from Brian at all. No wonder Brian succumbed to introversion/wanting to be left alone, cocaine abuse with his brother Dennis, and then finally became overwhelmed by schizophrenia. The saying that “there’s a fine line between genius and insanity” certainly applies to Brian Wilson. There’s no doubt Brian loved his brothers though and that it was Mike Love who was the worst offender. He always struck me as being very self-centered/narcissistic. If I recall correctly from reading Brian’s autobiography Mike Love hit Brian during disagreements. If there was a Lifetime Asshole Achievement award for entertainers, Mike Love would definitely qualify as a recipient! 🤣
@@justintime42000 Yeah... Maybe that only applied to Murray and Mike Love... I just thought it was a hilarious line... and also I feel the same way the original poster does about the rest: Without Brian, I'm really not interested. (Glorious harmonies, no doubt... and Dennis was a cool cat.)
What Porfle says, it always blows my mind, the meaning, the story,the layers, holy moly..deaf in one ear, Brian was and remains an astounding figure.
As heartbreakingly beautiful and melancholy as any song ever. Just gorgeous!
You gotta do the last 2 songs in one video they flow into each other and work well. This song is my favourite off the album
Its my favourite from the album. Its certainly an album to listen to as a whole, rather than listening to tracks individually. The mood the album creates helps to increase the value of the individual songs.
Agree, like an extremely different album Justin listened to earlier today (Ziggy Stardust), this is an album that builds a mood and sustains it across a whole side of vinyl, even though it's comprised of separate songs.
I go back and forth on wishing this was the last song of the album. The album is essentially an autobiography, and this song is like a closing statement. That said, I do like "Caroline No" at the end too.
Easily one of my favourite songs of all time, relatable beautiful stuff that only Brian Wilson could write.
I was 20 years old when the album came out. I was in the Army at Fort Ord, California. We played this album and The Beatles "Rubber Soul" constantly. Many memories for me listening to this song. In fact I just posted it myself. "Pet Sounds" and this song are masterpieces, in my opinion, and showed the Brilliance of Brian Wilson. Thanks for this, it was really Cool!
This song really just reflects what it feels like to be depressed the lyrics, the chorus layering reminds me of anxiety attacks. I sometimes listen to it in the dark alone it really hits different
Spot on. Same here
Same!
The stereo version is definitely the better version in this case. The instrumental tracts and rehearsals available in the old box set were pretty illuminating. Top class musicianship.
I love your reactions so much. It’s like listening to my favorite music with a friend and dissecting it. This one and Care of Cell 44 are two of my most favorite songs
That really means a lot to me Kennedy, ty for watching!
It's a masterpiece song on a masterpiece album, the beauty of it borders on being unbearable at times.
Simply amazing song on an amazing album. Been a fan forever.
First listen:Good. Mind-not-blown. After a few listens: ascertaining the quirky wood blocks placement-- and realizing that they were arranged, not just rhythmically, but harmonically, to be heard in concert with other instruments-- namely the bass, then the slow, weird feeling of genius creeps in..
Thank you again for your beach boys reactions love the way you explain everything xx
😊 thank you
It doesn't necessarily "stand out" in any particular way, but one of the best on the album for sure.
I cried the first time I heard it. I’ve never related to song more in my life. Brian Wilson is a god
fair-weather 1 : loyal only during a time of success a fair-weather friend. :)
Like many, my favorite on the album.
I came back to this video because after hearing it, the chorus of this song popped into my head later and I couldn’t help but continue singing the melody of the verse too. The melody makes me think. It challengers me because it’s not predictable like a simple hum along song. Then I can’t stop because the chorus is so connected to the verse. I’m in a loop. Great songwriting.
Haven't listened to this, for a while..........still magic!!!!
I must have played this song a thousand times from the first time I listened to my favourite Beach Boy album. It is not until now I am, well let's just say late 50s that I really appreciate the lyrics to this song. I am now in my third marriage to a woman 14 years my younger with two young boys. I now live in a world of Fortnite, Tic Tock, and pronouns for gender. This song has meaning to me now, admittedly not what Brian was aching at and I feel I most definitely I "Wasn't made for these times"!😂
This is such a great song.
But the reason for my comment today is to show some love for the very cool t-shirt you're wearing.
Ty David😁🦊
I kinda disagree. I really appreciate the lushness of this song, the harmonies of course and the wall of sound, even though it can be a bit overbearing at times. Enjoy reading everyone’s comments, positive or negative. And I enjoyed your reaction even though this song didn’t do it for you. 😀
This song helped me unlock Pet Sounds! I was on a plane about to descend into Reykjavik and suddenly I heard those temple blocks coming through my headphones during the chorus - I've never focused so much on such a specific sound within a mesh of other sounds on a record- honestly felt like golf balls were ricocheting around the fuselage. I completely tripped out 😄
Anyway, that's the moment I started to truly realise the wall of sound behind this record! Ultimately, this song became the story of Brian's life and I think that's what makes it so poignant and a fan favourite
And yes, it was the first rock song to feature a theramin as far as I'm aware
MORE THEREMIN!!!!
"In regards to this Beach Boys'songlyric'I Wasn't Made For These Times',I believe that was Brian Wilson's brother as a backup singer,or was backup voice as the chorus,also Brian's voice?" 11-30-2022'
Interesting note: Brian would often use bass harmonica and/or accordion for those swelling sounds in the background. Presynthesizer, of course!!
Al Jardine loves J.S. Bach .
Saw him at the Carmel Mission Basilica Choral concert in the 90's . We were performing Renaissance and Baroque pieces for that Festival (Carmel Bach Festival) at the time .
Makes sense
This is the best album of the 60s
I'm not huge into the Beach Boys, but there's a track that if you heard you would never guess that it was them. It's a short instrumental off of "Smile". "Elements: Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow). Great reaction, thanks!
This song is a standout on Pet Sounds. I think it was one of the earlier concept albums and therefore this song fits nicely into the mix of the other songs in that is relates to the whole. Record companies wanted hit after hit and musicians pushed back during this time by demanding greater control or their artistry. I discovered this album later in life and it’s breathtaking in its entirety.
The best song on the album. It’s basically a microcosm of the entire album, musically and lyrically.
My favourite BB: California Saga off the Holland album. Beach Boys go prog with a beautiful suite.
The "wall of sound" reverb really amplifies the feelings behind this song - Brian learned alot from Phil Spector. George Harrison's first solo album, produced by Phil, also has the wall of sound effect, but George was not a fan of it. The latest remaster of All Things Must Pass took out the wall of sound, which I disagree on.
I think would rather listen to Bill Withers discussing the lack of solar radiance when there is a deficiency of the woman he loves.
I know, I know, I know, I know…
@@-davidolivares Inevitably, the totality of her absence is a period that exceeds the acceptable limits.
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It not about her, it’s about your vision of you in her. Perhaps I should rephrase that but I won’t.
A lot of energy that can be shifted to more positive creativity… wasn’t meant to be, or it would be.
@@-davidolivares That makes sense to me Perhaps I spend too much time talking to my friend, Robert, who has been a professional artist for most of his life. Perhaps I am being too pedantic when I say that we never see other people. We only see the light they do not absorb.
Amongst the best Beach Boys songs (though that's a pretty long list) this is very well constructed and produced, as you would expect from Brian Wilson. I'm fairly sure the term 'fair-weather friends' wasn't a Wilson invention though it's well chosen here.
The best music was made in the sixties and seventies . IMO
By the way, the "Electro Theremin" wasn't a REAL Theremin Paul Tanner designed it. "He developed and played the Electro-Theremin, an electronic musical instrument that mimics the sound of the theremin". (Wikipedia) It was easier to play than the Theremin, it had a keyboard with a metal strip in front of it so your finger could slide up and down. The Beach Boys used it for live concerts.
So gorgeous but so much better in the (fairly recent) stereo remix - the piece is too complex (in a good way arrangement wise) on the original mono mix. IT’S A GROWER! Great, great song.
“Are you suggesting coconuts migrate? How could a 5-ounce bird possibly carry a 1-pound coconut?”
About clopping horses, you need to watch “Monty python and the holy grail”.
Brian Wilson is a musical genius!
This album inspired the Beatles to do SGT Peppers, and I believe “Dark side of the moon”.
Brian Wilson certainly was ahead of his time.
Are you saying you’ve never stepped behind a tree or Bush and relieved yourself? It’s a very freeing feeling.
Not much pleasure in squatting, but sometimes a mans gotta do what he has to do;)!!
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The audio sounds distorted.
It's definitely not the version of the song on my CD.
It was mixed in mono - it's not intended for stereo headphones, but if you have a high fidelity RCA Victor record player ....
Brian Wilson felt challenged by the Beatles which caused him to try unusual instruments, and was determined to "out create" the Fabs. The Wrecking Crew session musicians helped a lot and Brian began with this album to become more of a creator/songwriter/music composer and less the leader of a band with his two brothers and cousin.
Good spotting of that Theremin sound! Sounds like the Electro-Theremin was a one-off, from this Wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro-Theremin (interesting).
"Fair weather friend" sounds like it's gone out of general use? (Which has the benefit of reviving it as something fresh again - with whatever it was in it that made it an idiom for a time.) There's a country song about it that I've heard on the radio: "Fair weather friend; foul weather stranger ... la lalala la la ... "
The Electro-Theremin would get used again, for "Good Vibrations" - the better known song for it.
Way ahead of its time 1966
Like you I feel good in the times we live, although I'm very concerned with what's going to happen in the next 20 years, with biodiversity and climate change. The only time I would have loved to live in would be prehistory. But not sure I would have survived long ;-D.
Nice song but not really moving at least for me. I wouldn't have think that's theramin ! I was sure it was vocals. Incredible.
Seems like a therapy song, a theremin therapy song that could imo have been produced better. The clip clops that take you back in time to horse drawn carriages and such, just seem silly imo. It’s a nice song but fails to reach its full potential imo.
One out of time album might be Desperado by the Eagles, still love this outlaw themed album. Try it, yoo like it.
Peace and clip clop Music
Daddy, can we go play with the pets in the park? No son, go sit at your piano and make us a hit song! Theremin lies the conflict. Remember pussycats and ferrets frown, when you turn the music down. Peace.
Guess he was the Theremin Munster of the family… crickets.
@@-davidolivares "Baby Snakes"!
JP, are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?
(10 points to anyone who gets that...)
Lol, I think that may be why I was thinking of horses/coconuts😅
The stereo version is so so much better.
Yep, standard BB's... One thing you can say for sure about them, there's never any surprises. It seemed to work for their times, so they just appear to have trotted out the same ol', same ol', pretty much every song. Maybe this album wasn't meant for these/our times, bland. *Re out of time. Think i could've had a ball at the court of Louis XIV. As long as i was one of the toffs of course.