YOU WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH! 😡 Simon Jordan REACTS To Wayne Rooney's SACKING & His Statement
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The appointment was always going to be a disaster! He couldn't even do it in America.
Gerrard is next?
id says potter to b'ham woudnay be to bad@@bigpants6121
Gerrard is probably not far off being sacked ...though maybe he will get to the end of the season, if he's lucky.
or will Birmingham become 'Frank Lampard's Birmingham'...ya gotta feel for the long suffering fans
Gerrard actively wants to get binned. His pay off will be insane.
The owners just wanted a celebrity to raise the profile of the club, a truly baffling appointment. There are managers in League 1 and 2 who deserve a chance but don't get the opportunities.
John Eustace was doing a fantastic job. This is what you get with American owners, it seems.
As a Villa fan, I think he should have been given more time. lol
No, reading between the lines he has been a problem. At 20 years old, he should be trying to establish himself amongst seasoned professionals if he is upsetting the applecart then he needs to jog on...He isn't better than Archer, I'll pay for his taxi....UTV
Steven Gerard too in fact get Steven back...
@DarthVader-xb8gd yeah because under unai were making you sweat...
Was never the right appointment for Birmingham City tbh. I mean before Rooney joined Birmingham was in the play offs & since his appointment they've slid down to 20th. Says it all really
Mate Birmingham finished 17th last season... like google exists before u comment
Fraud of a manager. Hopefully Rooney will never get a managers job again.
@@_FVG_ ... Mate, last season was last season. This season is a different season... like time exists before u comment.
@@temporaryuseraccount0012 what a well constructed sentence 👏
@@_FVG_... r/woosh
Rooney wrote that statement? Yeah sure. He's only just finished reading his first Pingu book.
Tbf Pingu can be a difficult concept if you don't think penguins talk
Noot noot
"If Wayne Rooney had dynamite for brains, he couldn't blow his hat off." (Andrew Lawrence)
Saying in business, "your best salesman does not make your best manager". Rooney,Gerrard,Lampard. Proof positive
Similar in Baseball, MLB. The game comes too easy to the best players. They often have a tough time explaining what they do they just do it. The guys that fight tooth and nail the stay in the league every year are the guys that make the best managers
Rooney's words about how he wasn't given enough time to see through his "vision" would've landed if he hadn't took them backwards from fighting for a play off spot to fighting to get out of relegation
He wasn't given enough time to see through his "vision" of the fulfilment of the "project".
To be fair the gap between play off and relegation was very small when he was appointed. I don’t think they were ever in a play off fight over the course of a full season
Play off contention in October... 😂😂😂
They were hardly fighting for a ply off place in august 😁
Managers needing time is an archaic cliche. People still lean on Alex Ferguson in the 80s turning United around. Completely different era and no club would do that now with the huge sums spent on players.
This is a disaster. Who even in their right mind decided to hire him?
Tom Brady
Fraud of a manager. Hopefully Rooney will never get a managers job again.
Madness to appoint him.
Garry Cook
Same people that decided to sack John Eustace. Baffling.
"Huge expectations for this football club "
Appoints Wayne Rooney 🤣
What a joke appointment.
LOL
They're not the only club to have made that kind of mistake recently. [Cough!] Steven Gerrard [cough!] Aston Villa.
@@temporaryuseraccount0012 Gerrard got backed with millions probably makes it worse. Can't win a game in Saudi 🤣
erm what's wrong with that like
He should manage Manchester United
Yes, they like welcoming back ex-players for managers like Ole.
That would be entertaining!
Would remind you of Kenny Daglish or Steven Gerrard going into management.@minnielee3399
@@alibabashero am I missing the relevance? Dalglish won 3 league titles with Liverpool, two FA cups, won the league with Blackburn and won what was then the Carling Cup when he went back to Liverpool. Gerrard has never managed Liverpool so his achievements or lack there of are irrelevant when talking about bringing ex players back as managers
Instead of that he should be a striker coach for us
He took Birmingham from Play Off position to 20th, Can’t see any other club taking him pm
Theres always some mug director willing to sign him up
Maybe another championship or league one club
Like United 😂@@tonyburton5706
It seems like a nice little earner to go from a mindless window-licking footballer to bouncing around different football clubs, getting sacked, getting the payout, moving to the next club to try and get £10k a week wages [almost certainly more] just to attend a football club 2 or 3 times a week, what a nice little number for someone that almost certainly couldnt even get a job at McDonalds!
Pretending they were in the Play offs at the end of September is hilarious.. spurs were top of the premier League at that time...
That generation of players for England are terrible coaches, Wayne was a legend as a player but as a coach he’s not got what it takes.
Another Fergie student doing the business 😅
@@bg7393to be honest thats a big problem with alot of managers and not just english.
Alot of top ex players expect to be able to implement elite styles into lesser players and it doesnt work
Spot on. With all that talent they couldn't play as a team for England. How does anyone expect them to manage if they couldn't even be mature enough about playing for England?
@@bg7393you’re forgetting about Gerard and Lampard….
Fergis tactial nouse compared to pep aint the same, the ammount ov student pep has is Elite
He's never exactly been a Mensa candidate !
That's the issue I think. He might have a role in coaching but not management.
What I imagine has happened is Rooney has worked with recruitment team to identify players he believes can implement the style of play he wanted and that either Birmingham can't afford them or they're not a big enough pull to attract them and given how the current squad cannot do what he wants of them, the board had to sack him with their tails firmly between their legs.
Justice anyway for John Eustace who I hope is sunning it up on a Caribbean island right now.
Irrespective of future transfer plans Rooney failed with the current squad who previously were getting results so there’s no way the board could back him spending money. Board took a gamble didn’t work out, Rooney clearly doesn’t have it and his statement is so vague that he couldn’t point to any improvements he has made during his brief stint. Professional football is highly paid but you have show immediate results or out the door.
You clearly don't know much about the situation. We cannot spend much this January due to Profit and Sustainability rules thanks to Harry Redknapp being allowed to spend like a kid in a sweet shop a few years ago. This summer we will be far better off, but if you really think that these players are not good enough, how did they get into 6th place in the first place? No one sane thought we would go up this year, but a top half finish was well within the clubs capabilities until Cook sacked Eustace, and then didn't get an upgrade.
don't know much about this but if the previous manager had the team in the play offs and was sacked for a bigger status name it didn't go down well with the players and their performances dropped off, players play for the manager more than the club, jurgen klopp is an example of that. when he came in at liverpool it changed quickly
He took them from 6th to 20th in 15 games LOL. What happened is the joke of a manager hired because of his name did exactly the job you'd expect him to do.
Great excuse
Eustace worked hard and built a solid team on a threadbare budget, he got us to a good place in the division and made Blues hard to beat. As soon as Rooney was announced my head was in my hands
Now we are listening to a Birmingham fan .. Well said now you may have a chance John Eustace is not employed elsewhere is he... Have the owners any humility to say sorry and ask John back ?
Rooney for Redditch United
It’s a town I grew up in half hour from Birmingham.
No longer a pro side (now classed as semi) probably much more your speed Wayne and not far commute from the old work 😉
What have Redditch ever done to you?
@@kevinogorman8406 nothing I’m from there. Used to live cedar view just found the corner from the valley ground.
I think the advice of many on here for Rooney to learn his trade at a lower lever and to become a number 2 is good advice.....you do get exceptions like Alonso or De Zerbi...but these guys have IQ unlike Rooney who cant string a sentence together.....
Ultimately it does seem like Rooney's inarticulate ways make it much harder for him to succeed. Nobody can seriously doubt his footballing IQ, which is very, very high, he was a player who clearly had a picture in his mind and a real understanding of teammates. Unfortunately that doesn't always translate to being a manager. Rooney might be one of the best examples of a great player not making a good manager.
0:28 "Expectations have not been met". 🤣
Love Rooney and I really want him to do well but I’ve Been saying it for months: Liam rosenior was the mastermind behind Derby. I don’t think it is a coincidence that Rooney hasn’t done great since Derby whereas Liam Rosenior is doing well at Hull, steadying the ship last season and building on that platform. Not to mention the change never sat right with the fans in the first place
completely agree. Liam rosenior will be a great. He has the intelligence and the personality.
Well look at that Hull are playing so well but they also have good players so they recruit well also..
Rooney is only 38 and has not served his time as an assistant coach and first coach before manager. He hasn’t learnt his trade. Look at the efforts that Harry Kewell has gone through over a number of years, failure as a lower level as manager, and then taken under Ange’s wing for a couple of years. Now off to Japan. Rooney needs a serious high level manager as mentor. Or a different career.
And you Can counter argue look at zidane. Did a bit tot work with madrid kids then won 3 champions league in a row
@@jakecook4816 Zidane was a quite long process too. Coach under Mou > Sporting Director > Assistant Manager under Ancelotti > Manager for RM Castilla > Manager for RM. That's like 5-6 years before he got the RM job.
The Rooney effect. Top 6 to bottom 6 in 15 games.
So they were in the Play offs after 6 games... Hilarious.
West brom fan here 👋 after birmingham beat us 3.1 and went above us in the leage going to 4th i believe it was and into the playoff places... I couldn't then believe that after that match they went and sacked there manager for wayne rooney. I just couldn't believe it! Mental!
Guardiola started with the Barcelona youth team. Conte started off as an assistant at Siena, and earned the opportunity to get a crack at the Juventus job. Ancelotti did his apprenticeship with the national team, did decent work at reggiana, and then nearly won the league with parma before getting the Juventus and Milan jobs. See where I'm going? Former big players today don't do the hard graft. The want decent jobs at either prem or championship level on a plate, without really having properly tested themselves. Rooney should really be immersing himself into coaching first. He should try and join a club as a coach, learn from more experienced coaches and managers and then apply for actual managerial jobs. Arteta also did that.
Brian clough 2 time European cup winner started at Hartlepool
Think we all saw it coming with Rooney. I called it the day they appointed him. Blindingly obvious they should’ve kept Eustace. He had them in 6th place man, what do they expect ??
Ridiculous couple of decisions.
You know it's bad when Simon uses the word badder...
...... he could have used worstist ........................ 😬
Many people seem to think all football "legends" will automatically succeed as top coaches. Just take a look at all the top teams and you'll find their head coaches were not exactly football legends.
Pep Guardiola was an incredible player, so was Zinedine Zidane
@@thrilla72 Ancelotti was no slouch either.
Clough and Fergie weren’t too shabby either
What about the thousands of ex players that become coaches??? Basically the % of becoming a succesful coach is 0.001. Fact
Rooney had natural talent …in his feet. He’s never had to think about the game as his magic feet’s abilities did the talking. Talented footballers seldom make good managers as they don’t have to analyse the game It just comes naturally, Pick an industrious player that worked hard on coaching and tactics in the team and promote him. After all you are not paying the manager for his footballing skills, you’re paying him for his coaching and tactic skills.
In that case it would seem that Rooney would even fail in management in the lower leagues.
This shouldn't come as a shocking revelation. Players who have seen success in the sport rarely become tactically astute touchline geniuses, and vice versa, and appointing former players with zero to very little relevant managerial experience will always be a recipe for disaster. It requires a certain level of intellect; players like Zidane and Xavi have this attribute, but they didn't just get tossed into the deep end. They got their managerial degrees, started with the academy, then progressed slowly. The case of Rooney is no different than that of Lampard and Gerrard. Nepotism and favoritism, rather than objectivity, seem to be the mantra in a region that will never become world-beaters on an international level, which explains why Southgate remains manager to this day. Rooney will always have the odds stacked against him.
Falls down with Lampshade, I’m sure he’s a member of Mensa
Also did Xavi start in the academy? I thought he started in Saudi , genuinely curious.
@@paulallen7366 Appears you're right. Either way, Pirlo would fit into that category as well.
Don't forget Xabi Alonso, he did great in Leverkusen - so he is on the league with Zidane and Xavi.
@@paulallen7366 He started in Qatar but close enough
Rooney was right about one thing. Its a results business. And as a result he was shown the door.
From Forest,,,
Go all out and get cooper in...
I think Alan wants us to 'put things into perspective'. Seem to recall he mentioned it once or twice.
In all seriousness if wayne wants to continue a career in management he should take on a national league side and see where he can get them to build up some experience
Or United😳
In my humble opinion he should give up coaching as a manager.
He isn't good enough.
@effkay3691 Or perhaps join Steven Gerrard in Saudi Arabia after his disaster of a appointment at Villa, who have same players now and doing very well without Gerrard who won 0 Premier leagues as a player.
what you call very Well?..Gerard like any other english managers are usless
@@alibabashero Took me a while but of course you’re a salty United fan.
Simon Jordan using the non-existent word ‘badder’ 😂
@SHEK110
I guess you’ve never heard Micheal Jackson’s 1995 album ‘I’m ever badder’
Rooney seriously is NOT cut out to be a football manager/coach!! He is clearly not adept with implementing gameplans and tactics etc he's not even on the level of Gerrard "and that's saying a lot in itself" he was a great player in his day don't get me wrong but clearly out of his depth as a manager!! That's a FACT!!!
Steve Bruce waiting by the phone cabbages at the ready lol
The problems some professional sports guys have with Simon, is they want him to blow smoke their backsides, he doesn’t do that. Simon looks at their achievements, or lack of, with logic & a rational, articulately !
Simon is spot on 👏🏻
Birmingham should appoint Steven Gerrard as their next manager - he can finish the job Rooney started - 😉 - utv
lampard!
Roonie planned this to be available for ManU
Why they parted with their previous manager to meet way for a man with a 27% win rate I have no idea but now he's managed to do much better and now he's got a 15% win rate. Wayne has absolutely no idea how to manage a club
He actually did ok at derby with what he inherited from lampard with lampards overspend and failure.
Should of stayed there and developed himself there as there wasnt much pressure on him and see if he did have the ability to understand that level of football.
But he clearly isnt going to become a top manager.
Well they said he was a serial winner .... shows they are not data driven
Wayne Rooney just gets jobs because of his name not management
Simon questioned Barnes, Defoe's, and Sol Campbell experiences as black ex-players that played at the highest level when trying to get managerial positions and you see Rooney jumping from top job to top job, Lampard going from top job to top job and Gerrard doing the same. It will be interesting to see where Rooney goes next.
Alan, “Let’s put this into perspective”, .
Not sure about 'badder' Simon lol maybe leave that one out! 😂
Wasn’t sure the first time, but threw in a second one that got me questioning it myself 😂
Nail on the Head as ever Lord Simon!
We probably need to put things into perspective 😂
Much badder… top notch analysis
Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard, Sol Cambell, Nevilles, Keane, Bruce, Hughes.....All good players that thought managing a team would be a piece of cake, awful 💩 coaches and managers, Taxi.
Yeah but the Sol Campbell thing was all about racism. Apparently...
Rooney..Gerrard..Lampard. 😂
Keane..Bruce and Hughes...a much finer wine than those three..
Drinkable at least..
Not sure it's fair to "group" them in from a "success" perspective..
Hughes and Bruce had good careers...
Just look at Hughes' CV at Fulham and Blackburn, while Bruce did a good job at Birmingham, Wigan, Sunderland.
Oh come on you can’t count Bruce in that lot
So, instead of appointing a good player as manager, they are now looking to appoint a good manager as manager! Meanwhile, the same people who appointed Rooney are still in their roles as appointees! As the great Jimmy Greaves used to say, it's a funny old game....
I agree with him, its substanceless guildings which couldn't of gone much badder.
If you sack a manager like they did for Rooney you have to give Rooney a lot of time, no matter how bad it looks now. I get that that went from play offs to relegation but it’s not even halfway through the season so that means nothing
Sure I wanted him to succeed as a manager with derby was not a good situation for him,, but to be down there if u see what Rooney trying his philosophy that's another story but if there's nothing improving the players are not good enough he should adapt with what he got cause to be the x Coach was doing gud 5th with those players Rooney should realise those don't av money to spend like crazy he could choose 3 key position even on loan but still if style of playing tactics philosophy is not there the board is doubtful if they make the right plus British media will make sure u get sack don't love seeing someone struggle fail to make stories n rumors till it start playing in people head that's when fan start turning against him so yes deserve time but he should done better if he was 10th or 12th story will be different, even though his style play wasn't clear yet I think he need to good vacation n choose wisely try build a team even a bit lower.,, cause look at carrick with midlesbro he took them 20th to top utd reserve coach with Ipswich so Wayne so far with 3 teams record not good he needs to change that achieve something with a team then bigger will start thinking of hire him. Rite now I doubt that championship team will take him.
@@kennyknowles6875 yeah it’s hard as a fan to have patience and I haven’t seen the blues play this season, just unfair to only give him a few months and expect him to instantly do well. Altho this whole situation could have easily been avoided
Just because your a good player doesn’t equate you be a good manager Rooney is not a manager
His very first practice session he looked timid and spoke in awful cliches. It was not a shock that this went south
Even as we speak, there is some club chairman out there, thinking of his vanity project and repeatedly hearing the name Rooney! Rooney! Rooney!! As his fingers drift inexplicably towards his mobile phone.
This has always been the way with British football. Clubs are always a sucker for a big name ex player. Its much harder to do some homework and scout a genuine manager like Di Zerbi.
Wayne needs to start at the bottom learn his trade and work his way up, he should contact his pal Garry 'The Oracle' Neville about the job at Salford. The match made in Heaven.
Whoever called Gary Neville the oracle? Think you were watching the Matrix again.
The derby, the job in America, and now Birminghim is technically start at bottom for these top names lol. He’s just not good enough to be manager, and thats fine.
@@langletprolet8378 What's your views on Steven Gerrards management career, just I need a good laugh this eve 😆
@@alibabashero Should've stayed at Rangers, all I can say lol
They only have themselves to blame for hiring Wayne Rooney in the first place. Nearly everyone saw how this was going to turn out but the powers that be.
On behalf of all Villa fans can I just say we are so rattled.
Indeed so unfortunate 🤭
Wayne Rooney's "journey as a manager" is about as promising as Rishi Sunak's future as PM.
Or Labours general election chances
Blues havent done well since gold and sullivan people who invested.last lot ran it down.need to steady ship and rebuild .roots up i want to go back and support my team havent been for 5 years .kro
The baseball cap was a big clue!
give the thumbnail guy a raise
Player,s were not good enough for what he wanted to implement....on the other hand when you hear rumours that the management staff were not getting on the coach for games says it all
Delighted this happened to them. They went for the big name when they had a man in there doing a great job. He was treated harshly and karma has come back to them
Rooneys upset about the sacking but the football was dreadful. It was different every week, there was no improvement at all.
Counter attacking football under Eustace was ALOT easier on the eye! We’d probably be mid table now, having played better football and with a much better vibe about the place!
Its easy to blame American owners but the managing director is supposed to be a football man and a Birmingham fan. He should’ve known better. Terrible decision by Garry Cook.
I bet Eustace can’t smile wide enough this morning 😂
He has for a while now
English Managers can't cut it at the top level.
Lampard
Gerrard
Terry
Potter
Rooney
Smith
Hodgson
Ince
Bruce
Neville
Let's put things into perspective 😜 ..... This was a great video
Very different being a player and a manager
The thing with e players like Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney is surly at SOME POINT reality hits you and you would accept that you haven't got what it takes to achieve anything as a manager?
As Simon has said countless times on talkSPORT,
"No one can take away what these people have done in their playing careers. But that then mean that they should just be handed jobs because of the glamour'legacy attached to their names."
He has a point considering everyone else has to learn their trade in the lower leagues and it can take YEARS to be offered a top job. But for me personally I just end up thinking that if you keep consistently failing at something most people would eventually pack it in. But all 3 are either too proud or delusional to think they have some kind if tangible future in football as a head coach.
From mile stone to mill stone ,leeds utd have done it again got another manager the sack.
Shame you don't play Huddersfield until march.
Although I don't entirely blame Darren Moore, injuries and a weak squad in the first place haven't helped him.
Spot On Guy's 😷
Wasn't the fittest at utd but he worked his backside off on that pitch, hope things turn good for him in the future.
He did but only at the end did he lose his fitness he has a great football brain as a player
But ... if he wants to coach and manage start learning the same as other ex players have to do.
He's a millionaire so who cares what he does.
Novelty appointment that was never going to work
Quite rightly so he's not a manager full stop. Gerrard next in line and as for lampard and potter stay away as well.
A change of board would be a better option
The nomination of Wayne Rooney as manager was a total disaster from thei start
The management of Birmingham City need to look at themselves Total mess
They are always like near 5th from bottom. Look at past league tables. What is different ?????????
Look at what Bielsa did at Leeds. He transformed the team in 3 weeks… 3 weeks! He barely bought anyone and turned a mid table team into league winners. Good managers get results quickly! You don’t need ‘time’ to build if you’re good and have proven tactics. Perhaps early on you do but Rooney has already managed clubs for a number of years. Never should have been appointed.
Nothing about Wayne Rooney makes me think he is manager material. I'm not at all surprised he's terrible at it.
He’s insufferable in his interviews
We told you yesterday at Elland Road It's not breaking news 😂😂
Love the support for young English coaches,
Neutral here. They were mad getting rid of John Eustace when he was doing a good job, just because he wasn't a former England player like Rooney. And look where they are now.
Very similar to the Gerrard situation. Great player, but afforded opportunities that should only go to good, proven managers. Major misconception that Gerrard was a success in Scotland. He won 1 trophy from 11 whilst spending the more money than any other club, St Johnstone won more domestic trophies in his time up North… and for his failures, given a massive job with Villa 😂
The exact same mistakes made with Rooney.
You know we football fans have no say in who is going to buy and run your club HAVE WE
Remember how Blackburn sacked big Sam and appointed BM ?? who helped them to make their decision ?
Who is helping Birmingham's new owners where's Brentford BHA have climbed to where they are by having football savvy people in charge good appointments and signings one after another
then we have Chelsea Birmingham Manchester United
where as I meant
Alan wants to put things into perspective
As a Coventry this keeps gett better 😂😂 League one here blues come 😂😂
A caller said Wayne Rooney was appointed to create attention. talkSPORT has never covered Birmingham City until Wayne Rooney came in. Got to agree with him.
As a Villa fan that had to deal with a Golden Boy at the helm in Gerrcrap, City should have learned from us.
Not many great ex players make good managers.
The biggest and dumbest mistake was getting rid of Eustace. No fans deserve such numpties in charge of their club.
Roon's one of the best to ever do it when it comes to playing at a high level and then going onto managing a football club
Good players believe that management is a given
rSame old problem. Because they were good players definitely doesn't make them a good manager. These clubs just go for big names with no track record.Rooney has managed three clubs and hasn't done much good with any.
He's been exposed time and time again that he is a terrible manager. When he was at Derby it was Liam Rosenior that was doing the management and Wayne was the face of the management. It's no coincidence that Liam is doing pretty well at Hull city. Let's just hope that other teams will now be seeing the fact that he is not a very good manager. Just because he was a top rate footballer it does not a decent manager.
I’ll never figure it out. Of the all time great managers in football who’s been a world class player? Ancelotti, Cryuff and who else? Yet you’ve got the Mourinhos, Klopps, Fergusons and Cloughs of the world. All of them grafted through the lower leagues and earned their spots. I’m amazed at how a spot with as much nostalgia and football hasn’t learned a thing from its past.
Zidane, Pep, Mancini, Conte, Beckenbauer. Del Bosque is often forgotten too cus he played in the 70s, but he was a Real Madrid legend.
Hope Birmingham get this mess sorted or it could turn into a problem Wednesday got thankfully we got a manager sorting the team out but our chairman is a clown good luck Birmingham from a Wednesday fan
That guy loves the word perspective 😂
“Despite their best efforts”😂😂😂 Cook might as well get Stevie G in next.
All to often we see this....
Great Footballers, do not necessarily make Great Football Managers.
The question now is, where now for Wayne Rooney.
Maybe he needs to learn to walk before he runs and come down into a lower Division, or take on an Assistant Managers roll and learn from that.
As a Liverpool fan, I was happy to see that he was being exposed as a manager but on the other hand I really feel for your club.
John Eustace 2.0 at the club now?!
I hope you get a better manager or get him back for the sake of your club. Wishing you luck.
Wayne Rooney did a Steven Gerrard. Failed as managers.
Gerrard won the league with Rangers.. Not like Rooney who made every team he managed look sh*t..
did the scottish invincibles @@MohammedAhmed-tg4vu
'As a Liverpool fan'?? How is that relevant
@@MohammedAhmed-tg4vuI would win the league with rangers. That’s no achievement
Steve Cooper is simply an option for Crystal Palace as i believe that Graham Potter is the favourite so why be an option for one club when your needed wanted and respected by a club with future ambition and one of the best fan bases in the league,, We don't need Simon Jordan's permission to dream as long as we don't try to appoint Ian Dowie it has nothing to do with him..
Jim (4:26) - How do you see Wayne's journey as a manager this morning?
Simon - Difficult to see one 🤣🤣🤣🤣