The 7.7-litre V12 supercar that was too scary for anyone to drive

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  • čas přidán 9. 05. 2023
  • Does it get any better than a 7.7-litre V12 British supercar, with GT1 racecar engineering and 840bhp? Mike delves into the depths of the only road legal TVR Cerbera Speed 12 ever built by the TVR factory, in all of its carbon fibre glory.
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  • @ransikabellanage2177
    @ransikabellanage2177 Před rokem +7491

    That entrance game animation to real life transition was just 🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼

    • @badcosmonaut
      @badcosmonaut Před rokem +80

      That entrance made my day!

    • @stevemoore12
      @stevemoore12 Před rokem +11

      Absolutely!

    • @TheGreenBastardMate
      @TheGreenBastardMate Před rokem +57

      I was literally thinking about starting a new game in gt4 today. Seeing this was a sign

    • @chrisbrowning360
      @chrisbrowning360 Před rokem +14

      When it transitioned from game to real life, my whole body became goosebumps..

    • @RFTwo
      @RFTwo Před rokem +3

      Right?! So clean!

  • @bigspinner721
    @bigspinner721 Před rokem +1337

    400-500k seems a bargain really I was expecting to say 4-5 million! It’s iconic and 1 of 1!

    • @Underpantsniper
      @Underpantsniper Před rokem +194

      Agreed, I think that's a huge underestimate of what it will go for at auction. Every wealthy car collector in their 30's and 40's will be clammering after it. It's a true cult legend.

    • @WilliamStewart1
      @WilliamStewart1 Před rokem +52

      TVR's aren't considered collector/desirable compared to the big dollar cars we see today.

    • @bigspinner721
      @bigspinner721 Před rokem +69

      If I was mega rich it’s the top car off of the games I played as a kid and I’d pay big money for it 😂

    • @BurpleRX7
      @BurpleRX7 Před rokem +55

      Auctions are crazy places, will either not sell or sell for waaaaay over and end up in some Sultans collection.

    • @marvinberwart
      @marvinberwart Před rokem +116

      I can't fathom the one and only speed 12 on the planet going for less than 1mil.
      Impossible.

  • @user-zs4hh1fq2v
    @user-zs4hh1fq2v Před 7 měsíci +197

    That is the most uncanny sounding , gorgeously resonating engine growl I have ever heard in my 69 years . What a shame those beasts were never allowed to run free .

  • @thebluestig2654
    @thebluestig2654 Před 8 měsíci +56

    The TVR Cerbera Speed 12 was in the very first Gran Turismo game on the PS1. It was very difficult to drive without the right tune setup for the suspension and gearing because it had enough power to roast the tires through the first 3 gears.

    • @AlexLopez-pk3ix
      @AlexLopez-pk3ix Před 7 měsíci +3

      Right I still remember not being able to get traction at all so much power

    • @thebluestig2654
      @thebluestig2654 Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@AlexLopez-pk3ix I had to set up the gas and brake on the right analog stick, steering on the left stick, then soften the suspension and spread out the gearing. Accurate throttle control was still needed, but it wasn't as bad as stock settings.

  • @ChapsUnlimited
    @ChapsUnlimited Před rokem +919

    Reminds me of a first gen Dodge Viper. The side vents, side exit exhaust, and the rear bumper all bring that car to mind. Not to mention the rawness of it as well.

    • @mari0c0leman
      @mari0c0leman Před 11 měsíci +81

      Yep. I’ve always wondered why anyone from Dodge never mentioned TVR. They were pretty much making the viper before the viper existed. At least I’ve never heard anyone from Dodge ever mention TVR.

    • @ChillinwithChet
      @ChillinwithChet Před 11 měsíci +19

      Rear roof def has that Viper look

    • @DJAizakku
      @DJAizakku Před 11 měsíci +40

      I've always called the Speed12 UK's Viper.

    • @createsomethinggreat175
      @createsomethinggreat175 Před 11 měsíci +8

      I always said that too.

    • @chrisrobinson9899
      @chrisrobinson9899 Před 11 měsíci +26

      Especially if you line up the the ACR and Speed12. Just throw literally everything we have in the shop at it and put it on the track. Outside of inbore suspension, the Gen 4 ACR is very much geared towards murdering the driver just after you set a fastest lap time. How I imagine it feels to drive a Speed12 at the limit.

  • @andrewmccullough9334
    @andrewmccullough9334 Před rokem +1498

    TVR may effectively be gone, but never will be forgotten

    • @alexg1778
      @alexg1778 Před rokem +95

      ​@Alex Vanburen I'm not sure if you're making a joke or if you're genuinely being serious.

    • @scud69er
      @scud69er Před rokem +91

      @@EarthOutpost Never forgotten by anyone that has even a slight interest in cars. Nobody gives a monkeys about Chariots

    • @jordov9398
      @jordov9398 Před rokem

      ​@@EarthOutpost boooooooo! you stink! boooooo!

    • @martso9288
      @martso9288 Před rokem +18

      @@EarthOutpost that may be true, but do you really think records of said information have survived? I'm banking on the information storage mediums, that are available today and the availability of said information will surely survive in the hearts and minds of many for years to come.

    • @NoFaithNoPain
      @NoFaithNoPain Před rokem +38

      @@EarthOutpost Gaius Appuleius Diocles

  • @iHackWaWx
    @iHackWaWx Před 9 měsíci +224

    The Cerbera is such a masterpiece of engineering, it’s a crying shame the speed12 was cut from production

    • @AlexLopez-pk3ix
      @AlexLopez-pk3ix Před 7 měsíci +8

      It really is a shame such a masterpiece of engineering

    • @DarrenJamiesonJamieson
      @DarrenJamiesonJamieson Před 3 měsíci +1

      Its not all too far short of a Bagatti. Somebody is on for a bargain!

  • @dougfuller7314
    @dougfuller7314 Před 8 měsíci +47

    I remember walking down a street in London in 1992, and encountering the first TVR I had ever seen, parked. The lines of the car took my breath away, just gorgeous. I walked around it and stared for 10 minutes. The feeling is still there.

    • @ogkendrick6392
      @ogkendrick6392 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Amazing story man

    • @glaticstorm32
      @glaticstorm32 Před měsícem +1

      Amazing, I was on a school trip and a TVR Sagaris was in the car park behind us and we were all amazed by it, seeing it in person with the shifting colours and strange design it was like seeing a UFO and it made a godly noise when it left... Imprinted TVR in my mind forever.

    • @Felipe_ID
      @Felipe_ID Před měsícem +1

      Many years ago I was shocked, just for seeing photos on internet of the Sagaris. AND the feeling is still here.
      Cant imagine how it would be to see one TVR close.
      Maybe your description is one of the best real reaction.

  • @TheRedStig
    @TheRedStig Před rokem +743

    Not even remotely forgotten, TVR has always been known for tremendously unsafe monsters 🤣 and this is the flagship model.

    • @deceptiveanswer
      @deceptiveanswer Před rokem +31

      That was a stonking post bud, I belly laughed hard.

    • @TheRedStig
      @TheRedStig Před rokem +16

      @@deceptiveanswer You do me an honor, friendo

    • @ChaseBond11
      @ChaseBond11 Před rokem +23

      I can't second this enough... We all played the games, saw the cars, and not ONE of us ever looked to own this thing in reality.

    • @Nathan9197
      @Nathan9197 Před rokem +13

      @@ChaseBond11 I was just thinking the same. The shape of it is burnt into my mind from childhood but i never even come close to physically seeing one

    • @kingming869
      @kingming869 Před rokem +51

      Famous words of Jeremy Clarkson: "Usually TVR customers write to the factory complaining about how dead they are"

  • @EpicAwesomesauce
    @EpicAwesomesauce Před rokem +648

    A huge thank you to whoever thought of having that GT4 intro to the car. If it weren't for the older Gran Turismos, most of my generation wouldn't have known about all of these wonderful cars.
    Speaking for myself, I always thought that the Speed 12 has always been such a uniquely striking car and I'm so glad it finally got covered on this channel 💕

    • @LITTLE1994
      @LITTLE1994 Před 11 měsíci +15

      It's also in GT2.

    • @kwamea.n1723
      @kwamea.n1723 Před 11 měsíci +14

      @@LITTLE1994 yeah i saw it from GT2 too it was the most powerful with the Suzuki escudo and the Renault espace f1

    • @causality462
      @causality462 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Not on GT7 sadly

    • @GroovyBabyYeah
      @GroovyBabyYeah Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@kwamea.n1723 Project 7/12 yeah

    • @droid1008
      @droid1008 Před 11 měsíci +2

      That and the Chrysler concept car from FM2 really summed up the early 2000s for me.

  • @ferrisfindsdiecast
    @ferrisfindsdiecast Před 8 měsíci +47

    This might be my favorite DriveTribe video that I've seen. There is a true sense of wonder and excitement throughout the whole video. The engine sound is unbelievable and it's incredible to think that they had to turn down the tuning. The video makes it sound like they were close to cracking the 1:1 ratio way before Koenigsegg. I'm seeing this video months after the car found a new home and sold for over 600k pounds. Still, that seems like a bargain for such a rare and amazing car. Thanks for showing it to us DT!

  • @mostlypeacefulcitizen8006
    @mostlypeacefulcitizen8006 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I lived in Manchester for about seven years and was lucky enough to own a Tuscan and Chimera which were both serviced by the TVR factory in Blackpool, they were unforgettable cars, actually I'm looking for a TVR now that I live in Florida. Miss that brand very very much.

  • @MEATYTHINGS
    @MEATYTHINGS Před rokem +361

    As a '96 4.2 Cerbera owner, 'normal' seems like kind of a misnomer for such vivid cars, but the Speed 12 truly is in another stratosphere of insanity. It makes Paganis and Koenigseggs look tame. Thank you for showcasing this piece of unobtanium madness, and for delivering a healthy dose of TVR history.

    • @Crsf84
      @Crsf84 Před rokem +7

      I wouldn’t say tame. No real evidence other than a tvr manual or forums to back up that one. This one is not in the same league of paganis ect, Different class entirely.

    • @Milkydrummer
      @Milkydrummer Před rokem +16

      Unobtainium madness 😂 👌🏻

    • @jeremikurry3167
      @jeremikurry3167 Před rokem +23

      @@Crsf84 nah Speed 12 is in another legue way cooler and just a better looking car

    • @rayhan_2k841
      @rayhan_2k841 Před rokem +9

      @@Crsf84 it would slaughter a pagani or a koenigsegg

    • @drdavewatford
      @drdavewatford Před rokem +27

      @@Crsf84 Yes, I would say tame in comparison. The Speed 12 has no traction control. No ABS. No airbags. No nothing, apart from a massive engine and hardly any weight. Regular TVRs demand healthy respect, particularly in the wet, but this one is off the charts.

  • @Underpantsniper
    @Underpantsniper Před rokem +207

    I think 500k is huge underestimate of what this car will go for ar auction. Every wealthy car collector in their 30s and 40's will be absolutely clammering to get thier hands on this. It's a true cult legend!

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur Před rokem +13

      Definitely. I can't see anything under a million.

    • @banaki47
      @banaki47 Před rokem +4

      I hope this thing break will break records, that basically mythical 1:1 creature deserve more than 500k.

    • @1pfuller
      @1pfuller Před rokem +3

      I was gonna say. I can see this going for 1-2 million

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 Před 10 měsíci

      It sold for £601000

  • @michaelzerk9541
    @michaelzerk9541 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Something very similar to this, or maybe was part of the same development program, was on display at the 1999 Adelaide motor show. My record of the display placard from the event is 7.7L V12 and 0-100 km/h in 2.9 seconds. I didn’t recognise the brand at the time, but clearly it was something very rare.

  • @gordonmccartney5648
    @gordonmccartney5648 Před 11 měsíci +5

    What an intro to a video!
    As a wee boy in the late 90s early 00s I loved TVRs and always dreamed of owning a Tuscan R.
    I remember writing to them back in the day and they sent me loads of brochures and photos along with a purple speed 12 model car!
    Such a shame what happened. If I ever get the chance of owning one and being able to maintain it then I will! Epic machines.

    • @WEAREDERBY1884
      @WEAREDERBY1884 Před 2 měsíci

      Great minds think alike I loved the Tvr Tuscan 😊

  • @brandondriscoll91
    @brandondriscoll91 Před rokem +357

    When Mike first revved this beauty, he had the look on him of a young lad discovering his fathers "magazines". What an absolutely gorgeous machine.

  • @davekennedy6315
    @davekennedy6315 Před rokem +203

    I remember when they first mentioned the Speed 12, Keith Flint of The Prodigy stated he wanted the first production car (Keith was a BIG TVR fan) Unfortunately TVR never produced a production car and sadly Keith is no longer with us. Incredibly sad on both counts.

    • @quattropower34
      @quattropower34 Před rokem +3

      But I thought I saw a picture of Keith standing next to 2 speed 12s purple and Liam and him both had one.

    • @davekennedy6315
      @davekennedy6315 Před rokem +6

      @@quattropower34 they never produced production versions so maybe they were photos with the race cars?

    • @dolan-duk
      @dolan-duk Před rokem +9

      RIP Keef.

    • @jdmsamurai1
      @jdmsamurai1 Před rokem +7

      I got a chance to meet Keith Flint in California @ EDC bout 12 years ago nice chap…

    • @cannyscott
      @cannyscott Před rokem +2

      😪

  • @danielbarrettphotography
    @danielbarrettphotography Před 8 měsíci +1

    I remember years ago, around the time when I had not long past my driving test, so would have been circa 1994 / 1995, I used to buy Max Power magazine and dream of my next car being one of the many beautifully professionally modified feature cars. I remember seeing a TVR Cerbera being featured as a special project in one of the issues. Not sure if it was the speed 12 but it was one of the most beautiful cars I had ever seen at that point

  • @sonofham85
    @sonofham85 Před 9 měsíci

    So cool to see this beast up close.
    I've always been fascinated by the Isdera Commendatore 112i, another rare thing from around this era. A video on that would be amazing

  • @mattblackledge9068
    @mattblackledge9068 Před 11 měsíci +608

    TVR has always been like the Norton Motorcycles of the car world. Moments of greatness, but often struggled and changed hands too many times.

    • @davehoward22
      @davehoward22 Před 10 měsíci +43

      Pretty much all Britain's car and bike industry then..

    • @michaelmay5453
      @michaelmay5453 Před 10 měsíci +10

      That is a very astute observation and in my opinion you are completely correct. I've owned a few Nortons and one of them I kept for that very reason.

    • @sammy4538
      @sammy4538 Před 9 měsíci +12

      TVR Cerbera is one of the sexiest cars ever made!

    • @morgan21.12
      @morgan21.12 Před 8 měsíci +3

      That's british Leyland for you 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️
      Amazing cars very unreliable long term 😂

    • @michaelmay5453
      @michaelmay5453 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@morgan21.12 Really? So tell me, which parts of this car did they produce?

  • @anthonyb248
    @anthonyb248 Před rokem +235

    Doing the Speed 12 challenge in Gran Turismo was the Bain of my childhood. I spent soooooo many hours memorizing the tracks and learning the car and I remember the pain and agony of spinning out after hours of perfecting the course. When I finally completed the challenge, I cried on the inside from joy and relief 😂

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse Před rokem +10

      Isn't it bane?

    • @EliteLucarioRS
      @EliteLucarioRS Před rokem +12

      I met barry R alot in that challenge

    • @smiffsoft
      @smiffsoft Před rokem +14

      I still think it's the hardest car to drive in any game I've ever played. The GT40 was tricky, but the Speed 12 was another level. I still have my PS2 and the memory card with my 100% complete saved game. Ahhh, memories of working away with nothing else to do.

    • @RazeenEklips
      @RazeenEklips Před rokem +2

      that challenge and this car drove myself and a friend insane.I remember this car just randomly coming out to bite you just as you thought you got the hang of it.

    • @shakedlevi5686
      @shakedlevi5686 Před rokem +1

      Basically it’s an ergonomic nightmare.&the design is crude,curious but quite terrible.it was terrible back then too.how can it be compared to the everlasting &sublime McLaren F1?

  • @RobertJohnson-fd2yy
    @RobertJohnson-fd2yy Před 8 měsíci +1

    I’ve seen this car a few times in person at the motor museum in the Lake District, never thought I’d see it with the body off!
    Love this video, unreal!

  • @seanward1075
    @seanward1075 Před 5 měsíci +2

    My mum and dad lived on the street practically separated by the tip, growing up playing outside and hearing a tvr everyday going up and down the main road was amazing.. then hearing one of thease.. they took one if the race cars down the long road to turn it round, never heard anything like it or as loud.. what a shame its gone now!

  • @peterfconley
    @peterfconley Před rokem +418

    I remember being wowed by the TVRs on old Top Gear. Wild, raw, scary machines.

    • @stevegreen8262
      @stevegreen8262 Před rokem +1

      with VBH?

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 11 měsíci

      @@stevegreen8262 VBH?? Who is VBH?

    • @bedeckt
      @bedeckt Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@purwantiallan5089 Vicki Butler-Henderson former presenter of Top Gear

    • @mangotail6808
      @mangotail6808 Před 11 měsíci +2

      The TVRs sure are wild and that,s why i love them

    • @CadeKidd
      @CadeKidd Před 11 měsíci +3

      Was a race car to look like a street car. But yeah pretty cool back in the day .

  • @smokin_aces3907
    @smokin_aces3907 Před rokem +153

    Lister Storm LM would be epic to see in more detail. Saw that race at Donnington Park many years ago and the noise of the Jag V12 was biblical

    • @bencleminson7139
      @bencleminson7139 Před rokem +6

      I can also remember seeing these in the British GT and will never forget that noise.

    • @andrewdavid6054
      @andrewdavid6054 Před rokem +8

      Wow! There's a name I haven't heard in a long time, that would definitely make a great video 👍

    • @jamieotoole6828
      @jamieotoole6828 Před rokem +4

      Was just gonna ask for the same car

    • @NCRRangerDan
      @NCRRangerDan Před rokem

      I just remember it from gran turismo in that yellow and green livery

    • @marks7197
      @marks7197 Před rokem

      It was a great period for British cars in the BPR, as much as I'm a Jag man I loved the navy blue and silver Marcos LM 600's.

  • @PTSOPHOTO
    @PTSOPHOTO Před 11 měsíci +1

    I got goosebumps during the intro. brought back so many great memories with gran turismo. excellent video!

  • @Si74l0rd
    @Si74l0rd Před 11 měsíci +2

    Amazing video, and what a car! The only disappointment was the owner not taking Mike out for a wee spin in one of them! He did say he drives the purple one.
    I understand not letting someone else take it out given the reputation of the TVR's in general, and even the 4 litre Cerbera was a handful, but if the owner drives it it would have been nice to see it eat up a little tarmac and hear the engine in action.
    Maybe one day Mike will get a ride in one of them!

  • @bfairfax8772
    @bfairfax8772 Před 11 měsíci +411

    The coolest thing about it being a one off car is that from the wear on the shifter someone obviously had some fun actually using it .

    • @danielhaugen6395
      @danielhaugen6395 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Awesome reflection. Agree!

    • @teledine
      @teledine Před 8 měsíci

      I bet there wouldn't be as much slap in the gear shifter as a Datsun 180B though.

    • @edwinmedina4338
      @edwinmedina4338 Před 6 měsíci +1

      I thought that was a nice raw touch too 🤌

  • @elmatroso7125
    @elmatroso7125 Před rokem +222

    Looking at this monster, I realized that the Dodge Viper Gen 1 was made with filigree fitment of body panels and a luxurious interior with the highest level of comfort.

    • @gillie-monger3394
      @gillie-monger3394 Před rokem +5

      😅😂👍

    • @steveastin2684
      @steveastin2684 Před rokem +20

      Makes a viper seem like an mgb 😅

    • @NoFaithNoPain
      @NoFaithNoPain Před rokem +26

      Fun fact, Gavin beach, the brilliant development director and gearbox designer from TVR did the aerodynamics for the dodge Viper are BAe Warton.

    • @marvinberwart
      @marvinberwart Před rokem +7

      It's also abysmaly slow compared to the Cerbera

    • @SamaelVR
      @SamaelVR Před rokem +2

      @@marvinberwart Prove it. The Gen 1 Viper's top speed and HP are undisputed and factual. The Cerbera GT has no proven top speed or verified HP.

  • @spiffiestjester494
    @spiffiestjester494 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Awesome car and great video. The Panoz Gtr always fascinated me. It was the loudest thing I had ever heard on a track, and looked like the Batmibile. It would be cool if Drivetribe could track one down.

  • @kennethmarkwith4678
    @kennethmarkwith4678 Před 11 měsíci +6

    I played forza and this car never handled as well as other cars in its class. The McLaren F1 has always been my ultimate dream car, but my favorite Forza supercar was the Hennessey Venom (twin turbo Viper) followed by the Saleen S7. It always seemed as if Leguna Seca was a track specially designed for the Viper.

    • @mertdundar7659
      @mertdundar7659 Před měsícem

      Well in Gran Turismo 2 you drive a Viper first in laguna seca. That beast was so uncontrollable tho.

  • @walterwhite415
    @walterwhite415 Před 11 měsíci +404

    I think back in Gran Turismo 4 days I made this car have over 1000hp. It was ridiculous fast and had a lot of traction! My friends didn´t know the car, so in races I pretendet to be just as fast as whatevery they were driving. And then at the last lap I just unleashed that thing and flew past them like a rocket.

    • @TheInsultInvestor
      @TheInsultInvestor Před 11 měsíci +52

      sandbagger

    • @beanapprentice1687
      @beanapprentice1687 Před 11 měsíci +7

      lol nice

    • @SL4PSH0CK
      @SL4PSH0CK Před 11 měsíci

      Ikr

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 Před 11 měsíci +15

      This and the Viper, just insane underated monsters since folks didn't know the name plates. I remember one friend looking at me like "Did you just beat me with a car with a pickup engine?!" This TVR gave the same reaction!

    • @justinfinch333
      @justinfinch333 Před 11 měsíci

      dude same here thats all i drove in gt4

  • @Josh_Wright
    @Josh_Wright Před 11 měsíci +382

    My dad used to have a 4.2 Cerbera and that was an absolute underrated death trap...so the idea that this existed always fascinated me and devastates me that it wasn't "safe enough"

    • @emjbee101
      @emjbee101 Před 11 měsíci +12

      Same here. Drove it a few times (when it wasn’t broken down) and it was a beast!

    • @juddnichol8504
      @juddnichol8504 Před 11 měsíci +8

      My father had one also. He run Four. Traveling down too Devon early hours. Fantastical to drop me off.

    • @wartits
      @wartits Před 11 měsíci +28

      I had one too... it was partly made with Ford parts and held together with mastic and self-taping screws! :) Very cool car... will have a Sagaris before I meet my maker.

    • @123Andersonev
      @123Andersonev Před 11 měsíci +7

      can we have airbags ? no it adds weight...

    • @roxind
      @roxind Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@wartits 😂😂. Hope you'll get a Sagaris

  • @codermyers
    @codermyers Před 8 měsíci +1

    Super gnarly, have to wonder about the accordian tube intake tracts, seems like something I would cobble together in my shop...

  • @TheChannelZS
    @TheChannelZS Před 11 měsíci +17

    Unbelievable to see and hear this car in such detail, cars made famous by video games tend to be clouded in mystery and this really shows that the truth really can be stranger and more impressive than the fiction. As for other cars from this era of performance, I was always enamored growing up by the Lotec Sirius and the other Lotec bespoke cars, they really captured my imagination seeing them online and how rare they were and how little information was available. No idea if the Sirius or the C1000 are still around but that would make a great drivetribe video for sure.

  • @daymoncleveland0622
    @daymoncleveland0622 Před 11 měsíci +375

    The amount of nostalgia involved in the intro is incomprehensible. I played Gran Turismo 4 on PS2 from age 5 to age 16 until my PS2 stopped working. As soon as this video started, I was immediately transported back in time. Gave me tingles. Thank you DRIVETRIBE.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I ever played GT4 until i retire my Playstation 2 in 2019.

    • @ryanweitnauer7886
      @ryanweitnauer7886 Před 11 měsíci

      It was also on grand turismo 3. GT4 was to easy with the auto racing garbage

    • @SamIam420
      @SamIam420 Před 11 měsíci

      There's no nostalgia here!

    • @SamIam420
      @SamIam420 Před 11 měsíci

      Ain't no game here Ryan.

    • @SgtSteel1
      @SgtSteel1 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Yeah, lots of nostalgia. Anyone know what the in-game music was?

  • @thomasrobertson8330
    @thomasrobertson8330 Před rokem +61

    I remember speaking to one of the engineers for the Aston Martin Vulcan when it was first released at goodwood festival of speed. I said to him to him that it heavily reminded me of the speed twelve and the guy laughed in my face. Glad to know I’m not the only one who thought it looked similar.

  • @conchubharbeats
    @conchubharbeats Před 5 měsíci +3

    Breaks ones heart knowing that beast is rarely if not ever unleashed on the tarmac, absolute amazing work ❤ hope the brand succeeds in the future. Be ace see tvr set a land speed record

  • @CLUTCH_KICK
    @CLUTCH_KICK Před 7 měsíci +2

    Now how crazy would it be to twin tubro that beast?

  • @martinlaver4707
    @martinlaver4707 Před rokem +246

    As a TVR owner, I’m super grateful for the showcase of this monster. 👍

    • @Frank-ed7hj
      @Frank-ed7hj Před rokem +5

      What do you own? Would you go on the show with your car? :D

    • @martinlaver4707
      @martinlaver4707 Před rokem +24

      @@Frank-ed7hj a T350. Bit too common to be of interest to the audience I suspect. 👍

    • @issammelzi
      @issammelzi Před rokem +13

      ​@@martinlaver4707 Still cool since you don't see TVRs all that often in general

    • @causality462
      @causality462 Před rokem +1

      Cerbera? Love the style of tvr

    • @martinlaver4707
      @martinlaver4707 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@justrandomstuff84 certainly not going to disagree with you there. Looks beautiful and drives amazingly well. Very competent car.

  • @jacobwigley
    @jacobwigley Před rokem +135

    I’ve worked on that site that is seen in the video, it used to be a compound yard for the national grid in 2014, I was a subcontractor and while working there I couldn’t get over the fact I was where TVR once functioned. There was old bits of a TVR everywhere, it was very eerie. I actually got a photo of this speed 12 and the guys there was very friendly, I’ve never been more starstruck meeting a car like this and it’s something I’ll never forget. What a legacy.

  • @SK-xv3hn
    @SK-xv3hn Před 9 měsíci +1

    I briefly owned a TVR Tuscan V8 (289) and the clutch went out after a couple of hundred miles. I don't blame TVR, the previous owner was heavy handed. The car didn't impress me (compared to a few others i still have) and i parted ways with TVR. I changed the clutch myself and a doctor from Connecticut bought it. I actually drove it up to his house and he cashed me out and drove me to the train station. This car in this video is a specialty one off car. Pretty sweet but if I could afford it i still have a few others I'd choose before it. It can't be driven where I live. I have a '87 911 turbo with the 505 option I bought new and I drive it in the cooler months. it's been 100 for 3 months a killer.

  • @lewisbutton9706
    @lewisbutton9706 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm so happy I came across this video! I've always admired the TVR, especially this one ❤

  • @revolver265
    @revolver265 Před rokem +150

    The Speed 12 certainly hasn't been forgotten by FH4 players. Gorgeous and lethal. I leaned on it *hard* in the early game so it'll always have a place in my heart.

    • @fryta.
      @fryta. Před rokem +4

      fm4, horizons are ehh...

    • @noahebner9087
      @noahebner9087 Před rokem +1

      @@fryta. more granturismo 4 for me. Like the intro suggests.

    • @superlight1999
      @superlight1999 Před 11 měsíci +2

      More gran turismo, less forza.

    • @snakeNP215
      @snakeNP215 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Fh5 has them too

    • @snakeNP215
      @snakeNP215 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@noahebner9087grew up on gran turismo but the last 3 years I been playing fh4 and fh5, honestly it’s not a bad game

  • @CloverTroll
    @CloverTroll Před 11 měsíci +129

    Saleen S7's were another car from this era I absolutely loved and never felt like they got the love they deserved from the public. Loved the video and really opened my eyes to a legend I never knew existed

    • @ras4782
      @ras4782 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yes I lived down the street from a shop that had them and other cars they made .

    • @Danofcanada
      @Danofcanada Před 9 měsíci +3

      I'm hear theres a special S7 LM model or something like tbst with ridiculous power

    • @shelbysolko7783
      @shelbysolko7783 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Other supercars from that era or previously that were not all that loved besides the Saleen S7 was the Mosler MT900 and the Vector M12.

    • @chrismartin6427
      @chrismartin6427 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Can't forget the noble m12 😊

    • @peterschancel7223
      @peterschancel7223 Před 5 měsíci +1

      And The Panoz LM

  • @SSR_RedDevil
    @SSR_RedDevil Před 7 měsíci +2

    I liked this video and watched the whole thing....however, there wasn't enough of that engine sound. I can't imagine what it was like in person. This car was also in one of my all time favourite games, Project Gotham Racing 3. It was a 200+ mph beast on there.

  • @JeffreyGoddin
    @JeffreyGoddin Před 11 měsíci +1

    Perfect intro! Saw my first Chimaera in person (Ohio...) last week and it took me right back to GT2! To be fair, Polyphony digital did a faithful rendition of the car, it was an unmanageable beast no matter the tune you gave it.

  • @boigercat
    @boigercat Před rokem +58

    I think this has to be one of my favourite drivetribe videos. From the extremely clean editing, the topic, Mike's presentation, that intro and down to the music. Everything hit just right

    • @kyzrsosay
      @kyzrsosay Před 11 měsíci

      The production value of this video is 👌

  • @JierusYT
    @JierusYT Před 11 měsíci +630

    *My respect to Dwight Schrute for owning such a rare car*

    • @WillChestnutt
      @WillChestnutt Před 11 měsíci +3

      Hahaha made me lol

    • @dbrenz
      @dbrenz Před 11 měsíci +12

      😂 precisely. From beets to cars.

    • @ichdissdich98
      @ichdissdich98 Před 11 měsíci +5

      You are referring to the series Dark Winds right ?

    • @Fuckit96
      @Fuckit96 Před 11 měsíci +1

      😂 Brilliant 😂

    • @ruimpinho
      @ruimpinho Před 11 měsíci +1

      🤣🤣🤣 genius

  • @kingcurry6594
    @kingcurry6594 Před 5 měsíci +1

    1) Peter Wheeler never actually drove the Speed 12. He couldn't get into it, for a start.
    2) That car has been detailed at least twice by maxcarcare of York, who look after my cars, so I've been up close and personal with the car. I've even pushed it around his unit.
    3) It could have been used on the road. Brian Hosfield (TVR's race technician) took it for a spin through Blackpool and down the M55 just before it was sold. Nick Fisher of maxcarcare was in the passenger seat!
    4) Lawfield Abbott did the respray of my car and it's brilliant. It was the first car they did.
    5) The Speed 12 made £540000 + 15% buyer's commission at auction.

  • @TheBigChad
    @TheBigChad Před 4 měsíci +1

    This wasn’t on a rolling dyno like modern shops. I have grainy video of it on an axel dyno and it completely fried the internal hearing of the dyno. The shop engineer was guessing it was closer to 2200hp the way it sheered the gearing off the shafts. That’s something you see in dedicated quarter mile drag cars with 3000+ torque. This car was no joke back in it’s development days

  • @BadgerOff32
    @BadgerOff32 Před rokem +45

    In terms of 'Gran Turismo Legends', this car is most definitely up there with the Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak Edition and the Renault Espace F1. Absolutely bonkers cars and I love them all to bits!

    • @crimsonpirate1710
      @crimsonpirate1710 Před rokem

      Yes!! That Suzuki was epic!!

    • @Nickubus99
      @Nickubus99 Před rokem +1

      @@crimsonpirate1710 Its back in Gran Turismo 7 on the PS5 and you can engine swap into an Evo 10. Polyphony keeping the madness alive 👌

  • @spitalul2bad
    @spitalul2bad Před rokem +87

    Congrats to the video editing/production team. This was a great one.

    • @deanhindmarch_
      @deanhindmarch_ Před rokem +3

      They’ve really stepped up their game recently.

  • @poly_g6068
    @poly_g6068 Před 3 měsíci +2

    0:24 That was terrifying.

  • @nandonando2160
    @nandonando2160 Před 8 měsíci

    What size and brand tires are those?

  • @Jonzeyx
    @Jonzeyx Před rokem +48

    As a blackpool boy who worked in that very tvr specialist when it was called ‘surface and design’ and once was lucky enough to go out for a ride in that absolute animal and the purple car. I can safely say that car is the most intimidating car you will ever be in the presence of. It is absolutely terrifying and one of the only cars I would be genuinely be scared to drive. I cannot stress how much of a privilege it was to experience that thing. And an experience I’ll never forget. Although it’s a huge shame. I can understand why Mr Wheeler decided to shut down the project. Many deaths would have fallen at the hands of that car.

    • @Mika-85
      @Mika-85 Před 11 měsíci

      Nah. The Tesla Model S Plaid, Rimac Navarra etc all have more power and accelerate faster than this Car

    • @lotni
      @lotni Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@Mika-85 But those cars aren't nearly as scary as a car like this

    • @TURBOMIKEIFY
      @TURBOMIKEIFY Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Mika-85 Mid and boring cars. No noise.

    • @texleeger8973
      @texleeger8973 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@Mika-85 Unfair and decades hence contrast. Similar to comparing a GT40 with Toyota's current GR010. Each more than half a century of automotive development apart.

    • @_Professor_Oak
      @_Professor_Oak Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Mika-85 nobody really cares about those cars though. I imagine they feel much safer too, and because of that, much less intimidating.

  • @russellshipton6834
    @russellshipton6834 Před rokem +19

    I was lucky enough to be at the press launch of grand tourismo at an event in soho - this car was there and I was talking to the old owner. His wife didn’t know he owned it as he had a secret barn full of cars lol. I was standing next to the car when he started it and the exhaust burnt my leg. The craziest sound from a car I think I’ve ever heard

  • @styles234
    @styles234 Před 10 měsíci

    @8:49
    Actually over here in North America, it was first in Gran Turismo 2. Not sure if that was a region difference or not, but yeah, I had this thing back on the PS1 :)

  • @theraginggam3r679
    @theraginggam3r679 Před 8 měsíci +1

    TVR and Lexus working together would be horrifying

  • @armchairracer4900
    @armchairracer4900 Před 11 měsíci +20

    THE SOUND! It's like all the best frequencies and tones of a V8, V10, and V12 combined!

  • @roadrat33
    @roadrat33 Před 11 měsíci +182

    The Speed 12 was available in GT2(PS1) as well. Was a handful of a car! Awesome video, BTW. Thanks for sharing this with the world!

    • @dragster100
      @dragster100 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Ikr! Nostalgic! But the traction of this car is bad in GT2 tbh.

    • @Not_A_Cat
      @Not_A_Cat Před 11 měsíci +20

      Would wheelspin 3rd under acceleration even with super-soft tyres.
      Loved it with the race-mod.
      Red Rock Valley, 5 laps (usually in the Escudo) and viola, a Speed 12 was yours.

    • @DuvetIVth
      @DuvetIVth Před 11 měsíci +10

      ah yes, the fastest way of earning credits, spam Red Rock and sell it ;D

    • @GripAttack777
      @GripAttack777 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Not to mention, World Driver Championship (N64-1999) had it in the game as the "EXR Mystic", as a matter of fact, it was the vehicle in the intro. I THINK it was the last or one of the last vehicles you unlocked, I never made it that far lol.
      Even back then, people knew about how sick of a car it was.

    • @Not_A_Cat
      @Not_A_Cat Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@DuvetIVth 500,000cr ever time. Race could be finished under 5min.

  • @vikinglife6316
    @vikinglife6316 Před 9 měsíci

    There was a guy who bought one at an action. Obviously not this exact one but one of a few prototypes and added high performance parts and tuning. When they asked him how it drove he said you cant.It became so powerful it was not drivable.

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I remember this car in Project Gotham Racing 3. It’s absolutely absurd and I love it.

  • @txrlightweightexhaustsyste634

    The other company Mr. Abbott mentions is not TBR, but TR Supercars, an engineering company based in Lytham St Annes. TR, working with former TVR Engineers built a Speed 12 with the components mentioned to use as a dynamic test rig for validation of the automotive components TR's parent company, Helical Technology, manufactures for high end marques such as McLaren & Ferrari. TR has since gone on to secure the trademarks of Speed 12 & Cerbera, and have built two more versions of the Speed 12 with twin turbocharged 6ltr V12s, producing north of 1,010bhp.

    • @scotteric8711
      @scotteric8711 Před 11 měsíci +13

      This makes me so happy. The world needs more cars that require skilled drivers. Danger was the heart and soul of motorsports history, long since faded by modern manufacturing and machines without character.

    • @XBullitt16X
      @XBullitt16X Před 11 měsíci +3

      Cooool

    • @Ottobon
      @Ottobon Před 11 měsíci

      Not that you may know but any opinion on the origin of V12, as in if it was completely bespoke or had origins from, say similar head design to the speed 6 it is argued to be related?

    • @keepyuppies
      @keepyuppies Před 11 měsíci +2

      The two continuation cars are powered by V12 engines direct from Aston Martin and cost around £1m.

    • @txrlightweightexhaustsyste634
      @txrlightweightexhaustsyste634 Před 11 měsíci

      @@keepyuppies 3 now ;)

  • @nothinphasesme5573
    @nothinphasesme5573 Před rokem +51

    1 thing that made this car especially memorable for me was the epic colors they had on offer in GT4. Those colourshifts we're the coolest thing to 8yr old me.

  • @chrismartin6427
    @chrismartin6427 Před 7 měsíci

    Graham the owner of both of these Monsters is a cool guy and very knowledgeable when it comes to TVR I have been out in the purple one and that thing is scary fast

  • @dabobaboi3592
    @dabobaboi3592 Před 4 měsíci

    The TVR Cerbera Speed 12 is a personal retro supercar favorite of mine. I'm glad u brought it up.

  • @Nathan.Guthrie
    @Nathan.Guthrie Před rokem +27

    As a proud TVR owner (Tamora) I'd would love to be able to afford this. Sadly its not been heard much during its lifetime, and has largely spent life laid up. I hope whoever does buy it will use it more or at least allow others to admire the car like it was at Lakeland.

  • @RECEPTOR17
    @RECEPTOR17 Před 11 měsíci +325

    I remember reading once the Speed 12 being described as "The kind of car Hell's Debt Collector would drive."
    Sums up this brutally powerful insanity perfectly.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Před 3 měsíci

      @mitchellcouchman6589 Try "pleasant" ?

  • @ashtonhutchason3038
    @ashtonhutchason3038 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The wall behind the purple Speed 12, it’s hard to explain but it’s art. That car looks incredible tucked against it.

  • @krishorst4734
    @krishorst4734 Před měsícem +1

    Always thought of this as the British Viper just on steroids! Such a beast! Gota be one of the meanest looking cars ever made.Make it black and it could easily have been a Bat-mobile in one of the movies! TVR really are underrated!

  • @dazzlernator
    @dazzlernator Před rokem +31

    Definitely not forgotten, Mike. The original Speed 12 was one of my favourite cars in Gran Turismo 2 because it was an absolute beast to handle and very keen to put its back end out.

  • @TamedBarley
    @TamedBarley Před 11 měsíci +51

    Mike has become such a great presenter over the years. I recently rewatched the XJR-9 video from back in the day and he's come so far from then, purely driven by the love of cars. Well done sir

    • @phantomechelon3628
      @phantomechelon3628 Před 11 měsíci +1

      You have to love his sheer enthusiasm. He comes across as someone doing their dream job...and quite honestly what car enthusiast wouldn't want to do what he does?

    • @theowainwright7406
      @theowainwright7406 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I doubt he would be allowed to drive that thing

  • @WireWeHere
    @WireWeHere Před 9 měsíci

    Side view caught the full attention of a wee lad from 2 of my car loving friends visiting my shop. He's been asking for a Wiper while searching unsuccessfully through my pre 1981 Mattel Automotive collection. I see a Dodge Wiper too.

  • @aldo1conn
    @aldo1conn Před 8 měsíci

    Love it, his reaction on engine start 😂

  • @magikjoe3789
    @magikjoe3789 Před rokem +14

    Next car? Lister Storm please, keeping it 90s FIA GT themed!

  • @Miester7
    @Miester7 Před 11 měsíci +55

    My favourite car from the ProjectGothamRacing franchise. I remember when EVO magazine gifted this car 11 stars, there max is normally 5! What a TVR

    • @mushieslushie
      @mushieslushie Před 11 měsíci +14

      Thats how i know about it. You had to get all platimum medals in PGR2 to get it and then it was basically unbeatable in multiplayer. That game is also how I came to love Noble which is another car that is pretty much impossible to own.

    • @t3hgir
      @t3hgir Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@mushieslushie I remember they released a DLC pack for PGR2 which included the Speed 12 but with a different, fixed color compared to the one you'd unlock with Platinum Medals. So online you suddenly saw everyone driving Speed 12s and crashing all over the place, but if you saw one in a unique color you knew they got it through driving skill...

    • @mushieslushie
      @mushieslushie Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@t3hgir I think there was also some way to cheat and unlock it by copying a game save file or something but same thing, if they couldn't drive it you know they cheated.

    • @frsamvimes9271
      @frsamvimes9271 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Project Gotham Racing was a great series, it's a shame they stopped making it

    • @johnwakefield4473
      @johnwakefield4473 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Street Fighter had Super Akuma, PGR2 had the Speed 12. Both ridiculously overpowered and almost unbeatable. PGR2 had the best online gaming community i have experienced to this day.

  • @JohnS-er7jh
    @JohnS-er7jh Před 8 měsíci

    I am from the US, and never heard of TVR until I saw one in a movie Swordfish with John Travolta, it is a TVR Tuscan. It gets mixed reviews from a mechanical perspective, but I think it is one of the coolest looking sports cars, especially the multi color paint job version (if I had the money I would buy one, and just upgrade/fix some of the known flaws). As for too much to handle, have you seen the Aston Martin Vulcan, when Chris Harris drives it? Apparently, there is a street version of the Vulcan, I would be afraid to drive something with that much power.

  • @anthonywilliams9415
    @anthonywilliams9415 Před 11 měsíci +1

    One of my favorite cars in Gran Turismo. After some fine tuning, it was wonderful to drive!!👍🏾👍🏾

  • @MrManwen
    @MrManwen Před rokem +18

    This video just blew my mind, the speed twelve always felt like a myth to me.
    So very few videos out there on the real one and little information about it when I was still playing GT3.
    Hearing that beast of an engine almost brought tears tbh - this thing would have been ballistic if has its chance at the GT1 championship.
    Thank you DT 🙏🏽

  • @mattquerio
    @mattquerio Před 6 měsíci +1

    There is no better intro to this video that could have been done. Perfection.

  • @DrDandan
    @DrDandan Před 5 měsíci

    I remember them coming to use the CAD system at flylde trainging in Bispham, and they had to ask Mclaran for help with the clucth.

  • @WiscomptonBoys
    @WiscomptonBoys Před 11 měsíci +20

    That was unreal. I’ve always wanted to know more about the Speed 12 but there just isn’t much for pictures of it online that I could ever find. And here’s a full video up close and personal with it. Totally made my day.

  • @badtimmymagic3896
    @badtimmymagic3896 Před rokem +33

    NEED to see the old Stig take this out on a track ❤

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur Před rokem +4

      And a road drive segment; it's got plates!

  • @RUfromthe40s
    @RUfromthe40s Před 9 měsíci

    great car ,never sawn one only on t.v. does it come with manual gears ,it would be a pleasure to drive such a evolution of the cerebra

  • @krakennn9067
    @krakennn9067 Před 11 měsíci

    Great episode. I vaguely remember the announcement that one existed now that you mention it.

  • @danwhite3224
    @danwhite3224 Před rokem +38

    Crazy to think that there will almost certainly never be another car like it...
    An absolutely legendary masterpiece.

  • @gusgiesel
    @gusgiesel Před rokem +13

    The Speed 12 first appeared not in Gran Turismo 3 but in GT2. Thanks for a great review of this shocking car.

    • @Corn13R33
      @Corn13R33 Před 11 měsíci

      You are correct, I use to make a lot of money on Red Rock Valley with it.

    • @daiwatkins1984
      @daiwatkins1984 Před 11 měsíci

      It wasn’t the cerbera though. That was the speed 12 concept from 1996

  • @Mrwinecontreras
    @Mrwinecontreras Před 5 měsíci +1

    That entrance brought back a lot of memories 😢gran turismo

  • @Devilzreject
    @Devilzreject Před 8 měsíci

    The Game Project Gotham Racing had this as one of the two ultimate cars in the game. cemented it in my brain as one of my top 5 as someone in their early 20s

  • @GrayNeko
    @GrayNeko Před rokem +16

    The noise that engine made was nothing short of astonishing. I get why they didn't take it to a track, it's nearly priceless, but man, what I would give to see that beauty fire a few shots in anger! ^_^

  • @danielhillier7417
    @danielhillier7417 Před rokem +24

    I've always loved TVRs, the Speed 12 being the ultimate. Mostly because of Gran Turismo. If I had the cash I'd be bidding that for sure.

  • @chefchef183
    @chefchef183 Před 8 měsíci

    That thing is EPIC! And while not the same category of car it very much reminds me of av Doge viper on its design .and it's pure raw muscle.

  • @shawnmonihen8074
    @shawnmonihen8074 Před 8 měsíci

    2001 Volkswagen W12 Nardo Concept might be hard to find or even a maserati MC12, or a Pagani Zonda R, so glad you made a video on this car.

  • @IanWilkinson
    @IanWilkinson Před rokem +16

    I sense a connection here - my father was brought up in Devonshire Road, not two minutes away from the old TVR factory, and we share surnames with Trevor, the founder. What a beast of a car.

    • @JaiMcDowall92
      @JaiMcDowall92 Před rokem +1

      Seaside barmy army

    • @apricotpapi
      @apricotpapi Před rokem +1

      I have tutors in B&FC who used to work with TVR. Things have definitely changed since then

  • @alphaprawns
    @alphaprawns Před rokem +51

    Mike is really coming along as a presenter, really enjoyed the video

  • @stewart4975
    @stewart4975 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Iv have tried to research the final auction sale and can’t seem to find anything. Does anyone know what it actually sold for as it must have been over £500k

  • @camarocharger8180
    @camarocharger8180 Před 9 měsíci

    Basically a first gen Viper that is even more mad and ruthless, what a legendary car this is. I love driving this in Forza Horizon.

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 Před 11 měsíci +22

    Everything about this car, from the development process to the end product, to every little part in between, feels so magical. Like it’s imbued with this sense of mystery and enigma.