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  • LeBron James wants to make sure everyone knows he can still go out and get buckets. He put an Instagram post on his story that had a stat that read quote, 'from 2015 to 2017, LeBron went 177 straight regular season games without taking 30 plus shots. The next game he did, he scored 57 points on 34 field goal attempts.' LeBron put the hushing emoji above and hashtag 'washed king' below it. Hear what Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe have to say about LeBron's post and whether the King could average 50 points if he tried.
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    If LeBron shot as much as MJ, he'd average 30-points for a career - Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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  • @UndisputedOnFS1
    @UndisputedOnFS1  Před 2 lety +43

    Listen to People’s Sports Podcast: foxs.pt/peoplessports

    • @MALLYGEEZ1
      @MALLYGEEZ1 Před 2 lety +5

      Shannon arguments are not good. Also, MJ shooting % was 50% before he came back as a old player with the Wizards. Lebron is at 50% and falling as he gets older.

    • @zacharyminor9593
      @zacharyminor9593 Před 2 lety +1

      Lebron is who he is, he had chances to score more doesn't mean he wins, more shots takes away more assists and that's not lebron's game!

    • @TH-uy5ou
      @TH-uy5ou Před 2 lety +1

      And again shannon kicked skip and mj a.., everytime i see skip disarmed, damn i thanked god.
      The wise sharpe vs the dumb bayless
      If this would be mortal kombat, i might say to shannon " finish him", "fatality"

    • @zacharyminor9593
      @zacharyminor9593 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TH-uy5ou Shannon doesn't know basketball, he keeps saying lebron is better because of rebounds and assists, THAT'S NOT WHAT SHOOTING GUARDS POSITIONS DO, THEY SCORE AND PLAYED DEFENSE. KOBE, WADE, DREXLER, DUMARS ALL DID THE SAME THING!

    • @TH-uy5ou
      @TH-uy5ou Před 2 lety

      Lol
      Shannon: " ...he'll got 40 thousands, 10'000 rebounds, 10'000 assist and a minimum of 5 c'ships..."
      Skip: "...how many finals he lose?"
      Lol that hilarious, cos skip is defending mj has the got, but he uses always the subjet that mj was 6-0 in finals, but russell got 11 (8-0 the first time), n robert horry got 7-0, so skip can avoid reality, n that is that mj wasnt the goat n that LEGOAT is better player than mj, even if LEGOAT wasnt a good ft or the best 3pt shooter, he dominates this league with less help than mj got, so if LEGOAT improved, he simple became the NBA GOD

  • @vishavsra1116
    @vishavsra1116 Před 2 lety +2210

    Skip hanging off a cliff and bron comes and saves him
    Skip: Jordan would've stomped on my hand he was a killer

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 Před 2 lety +336

      “I met Michael in person. He farted in my face and it was better than anything LeBron ever did”
      - Skip Bayless

    • @ea6256
      @ea6256 Před 2 lety +32

      LMAO

    • @kingtshilobo1849
      @kingtshilobo1849 Před 2 lety +14

      😂😂

    • @hey_thatssteezo1845
      @hey_thatssteezo1845 Před 2 lety +61

      bro i laughed too hard at this comment 😂😂

    • @dieselx506
      @dieselx506 Před 2 lety +35

      LOL u both wrongs for those comments lol

  • @kingkeio1027
    @kingkeio1027 Před 2 lety +1844

    Skip's mental stamina is incredible. I've never witnessed a man at his age, have the ability to jump through so many hoops and not fatigue himself. That's amazing.

    • @p.v.oapparel1074
      @p.v.oapparel1074 Před 2 lety +33

      Pure factz 😂😂

    • @AMONEYGREEN2040
      @AMONEYGREEN2040 Před 2 lety +21

      😭😭😭😭I’m cryin

    • @Valuemeal_papi
      @Valuemeal_papi Před 2 lety +42

      Skip is borderline senile

    • @user-pj9ce5lb9q
      @user-pj9ce5lb9q Před 2 lety +118

      I think Shannon’s mental stamina may be at a higher level just for the fact that he has to debate against Skip jumping through those hoops haha. Most of us would’ve just smacked Skip after 20 seconds 😂

    • @tonylouis6072
      @tonylouis6072 Před 2 lety +18

      It's derived only from his devotion to bashing Lebron. It looks more like illness than anything

  • @CeeWorld69
    @CeeWorld69 Před 2 lety +432

    This show is actually called, “Keeping up with Lebron.”

    • @drewescobar2
      @drewescobar2 Před 2 lety +6

      Nah cause if it was they’d be making better numbers

    • @samestuffdifferentday5712
      @samestuffdifferentday5712 Před 2 lety +1

      Yawning…..please……🥱🥱🥱🥱

    • @bruceleeroy2037
      @bruceleeroy2037 Před 2 lety

      For real

    • @giainhgang1940
      @giainhgang1940 Před 2 lety +1

      They talk about everything Lebron just get more views

    • @TenaciousZen
      @TenaciousZen Před 2 lety +2

      i wish this convo would just end already. there are too many "IF's". just let it go...on both sides....like Unc said , people that think Jordan is the GOAT are not gonna change...same thing with lebron...lets move on.

  • @Stavs97
    @Stavs97 Před 2 lety +211

    I guess Kyrie, Wade, Love and Bosh were just out there runnin'

    • @multyz1
      @multyz1 Před 2 lety +52

      As if Pippen wasn't doing what MJ couldn't do. Sadly the phony GOAT couldn't win without Pippen.

    • @FierySpiritMaury
      @FierySpiritMaury Před 2 lety +5

      How can you run without legs?

    • @eatravi5533
      @eatravi5533 Před 2 lety +35

      @@multyz1 so magic couldn’t win without Kareem and worthy .. or bron couldn’t win without bosh, wade, Allen , Kyrie , love , AD … and mj could do what pippin could do but you have a home grown player that is versatile why not let him grow and nobody in the league scored like mj he averaged a triple double damn near when asked

    • @jgyrwa
      @jgyrwa Před 2 lety +12

      None of them were as dominate in the league like Shaq.

    • @TRU.tv.
      @TRU.tv. Před 2 lety

      So😂😂

  • @BrokeTeenager
    @BrokeTeenager Před 2 lety +684

    “poor lebron, so his coaches were saying ‘YOU CANT SHOOT’ “ skip is hilarious man 🤣🤣

    • @matt_oworu_19
      @matt_oworu_19 Před 2 lety +45

      😂 that was a bar

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 2 lety +40

      Skip the GOAT lol

    • @martyanisking438
      @martyanisking438 Před 2 lety +1

      Nope lbj did not want to coach like on the cavs ok so it's on lbj ok

    • @TvAMRR
      @TvAMRR Před 2 lety +3

      Lol I laught out loud when skip said that 😹😹and he’s right !!!

    • @DEMI-sq5uf
      @DEMI-sq5uf Před 2 lety

      You guys are weird.

  • @micahhampton4165
    @micahhampton4165 Před 2 lety +399

    Shannon’s right but that doesn’t really matter, if you shoot more you’re gonna have more points. Jordan and Lebron’s roles on their teams were different.

    • @Phori859
      @Phori859 Před 2 lety +79

      Facts like if Jordan passed as much as Lebron he’d average 9 assists for a year

    • @carlosduncan1389
      @carlosduncan1389 Před 2 lety +62

      @@Phori859 facts… and less points. It’s common sense

    • @Yoaneemmanuel
      @Yoaneemmanuel Před 2 lety +54

      @@carlosduncan1389 not really I think it was during the 80s or sum, he averaged 8 assists and 8 rebounds while still scoring 33 a game for the season

    • @august6281
      @august6281 Před 2 lety +18

      also, efficiency will go down if someone didn't play their natural play
      ex. even if Embiid and AD can shoot outside, some night they could 3/4. But that doesnt mean they can be 9/12 if they shoot more

    • @slickshotzz13
      @slickshotzz13 Před 2 lety +30

      That's the point Shannon is making, if lebron were to play the same role as Jordan, given his efficiency, he'd average about 32 ppg given in those 4 extra shots he makes 2.

  • @rainsworth-
    @rainsworth- Před 2 lety +4

    LeBron doesn't need to play defense his fans does it for him. Good lord lmao

  • @rebornmotorsports1513
    @rebornmotorsports1513 Před 2 lety +80

    I also love how Shannon forgets that lebron had 2 great rebounders in bosh and kevin love who when he got them were like 11 rebound a game guys.

    • @chrismoneystl
      @chrismoneystl Před 2 lety +1

      Facts!

    • @rosegiadyu7432
      @rosegiadyu7432 Před 2 lety +20

      & he won ? that’s the point . when he can jus focus on scoring he wins when he have to do too much he loses

    • @robertjordan7879
      @robertjordan7879 Před 2 lety +4

      Not when they played with him

    • @agkizzy5405
      @agkizzy5405 Před 2 lety +10

      Look at there numbers when they played with him awful point

    • @MadSwagMedia
      @MadSwagMedia Před 2 lety +11

      Bosh wasn’t consistent. There are times when Bosh have 3 rebounds in a playoff.

  • @AduKofs
    @AduKofs Před 2 lety +674

    LeBron is literally controlling this show at this point. I think he knows that too....

    • @MrOhio-hm8jy
      @MrOhio-hm8jy Před 2 lety +15

      Boom!👍🏿

    • @dododump3144
      @dododump3144 Před 2 lety +69

      He probably watches it then goes on his Instagram to make skip mad

    • @Tamicheal22
      @Tamicheal22 Před 2 lety +6

      This comment is so true.

    • @Nilson_VC
      @Nilson_VC Před 2 lety +7

      Actually Lebron is paid for every post he makes. Many entertainment shows benefits from that.

    • @hiro_hoops
      @hiro_hoops Před 2 lety +10

      He controlling whole ESPN 🏀

  • @leetraviusmckay2919
    @leetraviusmckay2919 Před 2 lety +344

    Skip: 2015-2017 is ancient history
    Also skip: keeps bringing up lebron's 2011 meltdown

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 2 lety +21

      Why wouldn't he? People say Jordan won because his teams were way better.
      That year, LeBron lost to a team they should have beaten and they lost because of LeBron.

    • @ItsLorV2
      @ItsLorV2 Před 2 lety +40

      @@MikeBNumba6 what do you mean why wouldn’t he? You can’t dismiss something by saying it’s ancient then bring up something that’s even more ancient. That’s hypocrisy at it’s finest

    • @arizonaFIREent
      @arizonaFIREent Před 2 lety +24

      @@MikeBNumba6 that same Dallas team swept ballhog Kobe yet no one ever mentions that

    • @graeadventures
      @graeadventures Před 2 lety +4

      @@MikeBNumba6 Dallas is better Miami is just more famous coz of Bron, check the roster 1 by 1 and compare

    • @jamal7071
      @jamal7071 Před 2 lety +5

      @@arizonaFIREent Isn’t Lebron supposedly better than Kobe tho? So that point is irrelevant.

  • @rollandcurtis874
    @rollandcurtis874 Před 2 lety +17

    5:00 How can Bayless have missed this one? The answer is Shaquille O’Neal because Shaq played with LeBron James just before LBJ took his talents to South Beach.

    • @Talkboutitbeboutit
      @Talkboutitbeboutit Před 2 lety +2

      Skip is old and Shannon Sharpe is talking so fast that's why skip can't catch on.

    • @ixfrozensnipzxi1010
      @ixfrozensnipzxi1010 Před 2 lety +4

      When he was 37 lmao

    • @TayG_9Deuce
      @TayG_9Deuce Před 2 lety +2

      Shaq? Really? How old was Shaq and what year was he in when he went to Cleveland? Dwade carried him and LeBron got the scraps of Shaq

  • @jegca
    @jegca Před 2 lety +44

    Shannon is acting like MJ's career average is 30/0/0... LOL

  • @SirMonkRG
    @SirMonkRG Před 2 lety +54

    I love every time Shannon says "Don't do that, Skip"😂😂😂

  • @dstout2517
    @dstout2517 Před 2 lety +97

    thank god i was getting worried they would forget to talk about lebron today

  • @WRFENCECOMPANY
    @WRFENCECOMPANY Před rokem +4

    I remember when Kobe put Pau on the deck first time he played against him in the Olympics. Bron, D Wade, Carmelo and the rest of the young guys were mind blown that he did that. That is a great example of the different in mindsets IMO

  • @jeanpayano1506
    @jeanpayano1506 Před 2 lety +4

    Shannon always trying to descredit Kobe bruh Bron played with Wade, Bosh, Irving, Love, Davis and now he has Westbrook too Shannon stop talking basketball 🙃🙃🙃

  • @destro1716
    @destro1716 Před 2 lety +30

    Jordan averages 5 assist and 6 rebounds.. Along with averaging more blocks and steals than lebron so how was he just a scorer??

    • @thebenc1537
      @thebenc1537 Před 2 lety +4

      He averaged 8 assists one year, 8 rebounds another year and 40 points another year. He was capable of doing everything Lebron does and much much more.

    • @GtheGreat1
      @GtheGreat1 Před 2 lety +8

      Exactly. Shannon act like Jordan averaged 2 rebounds and 3 ast for his career. Jordan is a better all around player than lebron. He's a better offensive and defensive player, plus a better leader. Jordan got more out of his teammates than lebron. Lebrons teammates fail him because lebron is not a great leader, and he blames them when things go wrong.

    • @dukeb1342
      @dukeb1342 Před 2 lety

      @@GtheGreat1 and u wonder why??? Nobody wanted to play with Jordan but back then u wasnt just getting out no contract to play with a super team. Basically Bron could of played the same selfish way like jordan and shoot all them shots and Jordan blamed alot on his teammates but nobody talks about that. If i had to choose i would play with Lebron.

    • @GtheGreat1
      @GtheGreat1 Před 2 lety +3

      @@dukeb1342 you would choose lebron because he doesn't hold people accountable, he's not a great leader.Larry bird said it best: if I want to have fun I'll play with lebron, if I want to win I'll play with kobe. Jordan was demanding and won 6 rings because of it. He got the best out of his teammates. Lebron has superteams and still losses because of his bad leadership and ball dominance

    • @simple45679
      @simple45679 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dukeb1342 Jordan doesn't go out to press conferences and make excuses like Lebron. He puts in work in practice to MAKE his teammates ready for the big moment. Jordan didn't throw his team under the bus like Lebron has done, multiple times now.

  • @anthonyjacksonjr4812
    @anthonyjacksonjr4812 Před 2 lety +158

    I love how Shannon and Skip go back and forth with Lebron and MJ facts because it reminds me of a brotherly squabble about who's guy is better. 🤣🤣 Great stuff.

    • @IDK-rb1yv
      @IDK-rb1yv Před 2 lety +9

      Shannon always makes good valid points and skip is just like "No"

    • @shaunphillips3236
      @shaunphillips3236 Před 2 lety +6

      @@IDK-rb1yv Skip makes points BUT he doesn't do any research on MJ & u could tell because his POV is based all on memory & his passion for the GOAT. Yet, he could shut Shannon down quickly with a couple of quick reminders & he doesn't

  • @merciless2062
    @merciless2062 Před 2 lety +4

    Skip: MJ is 20-0 in the finals
    Shannon: but lebrons 0-25 in the finals so he’s been there more

    • @NBAKING149
      @NBAKING149 Před 2 lety +1

      One of the worse takes i ever seen

    • @merciless2062
      @merciless2062 Před 2 lety

      @@NBAKING149 MJ >>> Lebum

    • @NBAKING149
      @NBAKING149 Před 2 lety +1

      @@merciless2062 your opinion.. and whether u like lebron or not we all know bron is not a bum

    • @merciless2062
      @merciless2062 Před 2 lety

      @Pallani imagine being so salty tht MJ is the goat not Lebum tht u comment on something from 4 weeks ago to make urself feel better😭😭😭

    • @merciless2062
      @merciless2062 Před 2 lety

      @@NBAKING149 lebron is still an all time great but he’s still not MJ’s level. Face the facts bruh

  • @ShermanSitter
    @ShermanSitter Před 2 lety +4

    This is great satire. Both of these guys are comic geniuses! :)

  • @mrblue3879
    @mrblue3879 Před 2 lety +162

    Im a LeBron fan but I love skips trolling man's said cubic zirconia championship 🤣🤣 14:30

    • @mocweezee
      @mocweezee Před 2 lety +27

      Funny how skip didn’t want to refute the fact LBJ players 3 years longer than MJ and still has fewer shot attempts. That actually is incredible!!!

    • @francoismerieux8770
      @francoismerieux8770 Před 2 lety +4

      You’re not a LeBron’s fan. The latest doesn’t love anything about this POS …. Smart people either, by the way… Only Trolls do.

    • @benbarson2810
      @benbarson2810 Před 2 lety +4

      @@francoismerieux8770 it’s not that serious

    • @francoismerieux8770
      @francoismerieux8770 Před 2 lety

      @@benbarson2810 ???? What does that mean ? I do not have a right to reply ?

    • @hussonnkingsr
      @hussonnkingsr Před 2 lety

      It was funny 2 yrs ago where you been, it's dry now

  • @kase121
    @kase121 Před 2 lety +10

    If you listen to Shannon Sharpe you’d never believe LeBron played with Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, KLove or AD

    • @tylerwest3161
      @tylerwest3161 Před 2 lety

      None those players are better then Shaq give bron shaq his 8 yrs he would have 7 rings by now

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 Před 2 lety

      @@tylerwest3161 if LeBron was drafted by the Pistons in 03 and Darko went #1 overall to Cavs there will be two things happening.
      1. City of Cleveland will riot
      2. LeBron starts his career off with a 5 peat possibly? 04,05,06,07, and 08.

    • @kase121
      @kase121 Před 2 lety

      @@tylerwest3161 LeBron went 6 against an unhealthy 5th seed with AD on his team. There’s no way he wins 7 with Shaq from 96 to 04

    • @tylerwest3161
      @tylerwest3161 Před 2 lety

      @@kase121 bro are dumb or something Shaq was literally unstoppable you put him in the pick and roll with bron how are you stopping them

  • @albertopineda462
    @albertopineda462 Před 2 lety +13

    kyrie, wade, love, bosh, allen, AD, ain't this enough? Reblon gets every credit when he wins like he won alone, then he had no help when he loses. Why is that?

    • @blackice51374
      @blackice51374 Před 2 lety

      😂 every post I seen like this forgot the main argument. What position Shaq plays? What position the ones you mentioned play excluding Bosh and no Bosh is no where near Shaq😂

    • @albertopineda462
      @albertopineda462 Před 2 lety

      @@blackice51374 dude, shannon tryin to act like Reblon had no help, he played with all time great caliber guards and forwards, reblon has always stacked his team to win and despite that he lost more than he won, you casually dismissing AD is the point. Should kyrie and wade play center to be considered as help?

    • @famethadon6310
      @famethadon6310 Před 2 lety

      @UCN8qNIfqUjWbDvZ1hPHk1_g you're a clown 🤡

    • @derekbanks7377
      @derekbanks7377 Před rokem

      Same thing apply to MJ!!

  • @jimbosliceee1059
    @jimbosliceee1059 Před 2 lety +3

    d fish did not initiate the offense lol. Kobe even said himself he always had to bring the ball up and he hated it. MJ had pippen and Bron had Wade and Irving. Both MJ and Bron played with way better playmakers than Kobe.

  • @bozolozo21
    @bozolozo21 Před 2 lety +80

    “Michael Jordan won championships with Bill Wennington”…..😂

    • @williebender1895
      @williebender1895 Před 2 lety +2

      Lol

    • @gproperty209
      @gproperty209 Před 2 lety +3

      Facts 😂😂

    • @jimmyb4361
      @jimmyb4361 Před 2 lety +27

      Lebron brought bums to the finals what’s ur point.

    • @purposeandgoals1189
      @purposeandgoals1189 Před 2 lety +29

      @Andre Samuels while playing against Duncan Ginobili parker Kawhi kd steph klay green

    • @josephbrandon276
      @josephbrandon276 Před 2 lety +4

      @Andre Samuels no he didnt it's not facts smh do you remember they all get hurt in the finals once but Bosh smh

  • @leojmatt
    @leojmatt Před 2 lety +131

    9:10 what is Shannon talking about? Over Jordan's 6 championship seasons, he averaged 30.5 ppg. In the playoffs that jumped up to 32.6 ppg. So saying that Jordan did not win when he was scoring 30+ ppg, is simply wrong.

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Před 2 lety +45

      Jordan had a 36 ppg avg during his first 3 peats Shannon needs to be drug tested lol. He be acting like he didn’t watch Jordan’s career

    • @starfireprincess
      @starfireprincess Před 2 lety +32

      And I hate when he drags kobe name in the dirt to uplift lebron.

    • @AllBackends
      @AllBackends Před 2 lety +10

      @@starfireprincess When has ever dragged Kobe’s named in dirt lmao

    • @starfireprincess
      @starfireprincess Před 2 lety +18

      @@AllBackends "if lebron had shaq for 8 years he would've won 8" umm did he forget lebron had shaq in Cleveland and they didn't vibe well at all?

    • @starfireprincess
      @starfireprincess Před 2 lety +14

      Sometimes he so desperately try to defend lebron he forgets reality

  • @zoflowsharkey
    @zoflowsharkey Před 2 lety +2

    Shannon says lebron never had great rebounders… umm, he could have just let Kevin limove do what he was doing in Minnesota. Then Chris bosh always averaged 11-12 Rebs a game before he came to miami. Everyone is acting like the players lebron played with weren’t all stars before they joined lebron. They would have had better individual careers had they not joined lebron. Period

  • @poindexterflex3528
    @poindexterflex3528 Před 2 lety +22

    Every time Shannon starts with this kind of argument, all you have to do is site Jordan's 88-89 season. 32/8/8, almost 3 steals per game, lead the league in minutes, shot 54% from the floors (as a 2 guard!!!) and 85% from the line. Lebron has never had a season like this in his entire career.

    • @joostwillem8596
      @joostwillem8596 Před 2 lety +1

      Did he win anything?

    • @salman13
      @salman13 Před 2 lety +7

      so basically James Harden from the Houston era and did not win. Do you realize 85% from the line is ONLY ONE MORE FT MADE more per game than Bron? On 100, it makes a difference but if both were shooting about 7 or 8 per game....it's one FT made. would you really think you'd see Bron as a great FT shooter is nobody mentioned % and just said one more a game? that's how insignificant it is.
      MJ would not average 40 per game like old fans think. when the hand check rules were removed , players didn't start to score way more. this is a fact. they just talk like they did. there were players who were better than MJ from long range even in his era yet ...MJ 's career 3% is very very close to what Giannis had last 2 years. an uber competitive guy like MJ tried to shoot 3s at a higher rate but he was a 32% guy.
      he would have to take more shots than Harden because his 3 isn't as good and get just as many, if not more , free throws. that type of player is easy to shut down today. there's a reason we don't play the triangle anymore because it's been rendered useless but it worked vs the lame rules from the 90s.

    • @Gmacshow
      @Gmacshow Před 2 lety

      The bulls got to the conference finals that year

    • @Jdot2tact
      @Jdot2tact Před 2 lety +2

      @@joostwillem8596 You shouldn't even bring up winning if irons lost nearly double the amount of times hes won. "Winning" should never be uttered out of a Lebron fans mouth.

    • @joostwillem8596
      @joostwillem8596 Před 2 lety

      @@Jdot2tact cap

  • @Dymez510
    @Dymez510 Před 2 lety +290

    Shannon: “Man I wish LeBron would’ve played with a guy like Rodman or Shaq….”
    Man’s just threw Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, AD and Westbrook under the bus 😂😂😂😂

    • @frederickephran8762
      @frederickephran8762 Před 2 lety +92

      I don’t think you understand that pippen and Rodman were not the offensive talents . They were all time defenders so mjs job was to score .

    • @Dymez510
      @Dymez510 Před 2 lety +8

      @@frederickephran8762 duh

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Před 2 lety +62

      I don’t understand why they hype up Rodman like that. Yes he was an amazing rebounder & hustle player. But they act like he was a superstar. Rodman was never even the best player on his champion teams, let alone any team he was on

    • @darnells.1558
      @darnells.1558 Před 2 lety +22

      Good point,Shannon act like LeBron didn't have stars.

    • @cuamagfamily2300
      @cuamagfamily2300 Před 2 lety +28

      He meant early on in his career, also, none of the players you mentioned never will come close to shaq

  • @LelekPLN
    @LelekPLN Před 2 lety +34

    How many times did Jordan average 30+ when he was winning championships, Shannon? 5 times if you round it, 4 if you use decimals. Only one he didn't make it, is his last season in Chicago where he played with an injured shooting finger and played in the slowest paced season of the 90's where no one really shined in terms of scoring. He still averaged way over 30 in the Play Offs, though.
    Actually Jordan has been the MVP, Finals MVP, scoring champion and Play Offs scoring champion (all way over 30 ppg) in 4 seasons. 1991, 1992, 1996 and 1998 (at age 35!). All other players in NBA history? 1 time! Shaq in 2000, which was a historic year for him, that noone else was able to reach... except it was the norm for Jordan. That's how much Jordan dominated the league.

    • @recca7
      @recca7 Před 2 lety +3

      preach it skip!

    • @sharifnasser7635
      @sharifnasser7635 Před 2 lety +5

      Get em skip. Dont buy into the narrative though. Jordan and Lebron both have dominated their time. Same way shaq has. So on..This show just makes villains and heros for money

    • @hakshustletv
      @hakshustletv Před 2 lety

      He said when he was averaging 36 or 37 I think.

    • @LelekPLN
      @LelekPLN Před 2 lety +1

      @@hakshustletv he said, it wasn't until his scoring went down to 28... Which is a lie.

    • @LelekPLN
      @LelekPLN Před 2 lety

      @Doc Holliday i didn't say he didn't win. Just that he didn't average 30ppg. Read it again.

  • @butimarealist007
    @butimarealist007 Před 2 lety +10

    Mike had Rodman for 3 seasons! Not his entire career

    • @zakariakhaled4339
      @zakariakhaled4339 Před 2 lety +1

      3 championship years. They also had Horace Grant for the other three rings and Scottie for all 6

    • @d.a.b2374
      @d.a.b2374 Před 2 lety

      Oakley and grant....so whats your argument

    • @zakariakhaled4339
      @zakariakhaled4339 Před 2 lety +1

      @@d.a.b2374 He had two great rebounders even without Rodman and it allowed to MJ to focus just on scoring while LeBron has had to do everything for his team since day 1

    • @quintonluster4886
      @quintonluster4886 Před 2 lety

      That how he got the second 3 peat.
      Rodman. One man recking crew on defence and rebounding. Incredible.
      He shut down one of the most Dominant big men in NBA history to help send the Bulls along with Jordan to another title .
      He should have been MVP of the finals
      Bulls vs Super Sonics. Oh yes. M Jordan gets too much credit for those 6 rings.
      MJ had superteams. The best of help.
      LOL 😂.

    • @quintonluster4886
      @quintonluster4886 Před 2 lety

      @@zakariakhaled4339 M Jordan had superteams. He had the best of help.
      Ron Harper was no slouch. Very good defender. Toni Tucoach was a smooth
      scorer and good defender. The list goes on and on. Michael Jordan had really great help. That's why i got King James as the goat over Michael Jordan.
      King James literally had to do more and he did . Michael Jordan never had face
      a scorer like KD who also had the better team . GS. If he did , somebody please name him. Make sure he's dam near 7' feet tall. Lol.

  • @ronaldsmith6871
    @ronaldsmith6871 Před 2 lety +14

    Let's See when Jordan Won his first Scoring title they Said No guard has ever won a Championship but he Won 6

    • @ChillydontCap
      @ChillydontCap Před 2 lety

      No guard? And here I thought every team has 2 starting guards. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @vigneshakkina211
      @vigneshakkina211 Před 2 lety +2

      Isiah? Magic?

    • @ronaldsmith6871
      @ronaldsmith6871 Před 2 lety

      @@vigneshakkina211 like i said when Michael Came into the NBA hadn't no Scoring Champion ever won the Chip you See that's all they had because Mj was Winning Scoring title's and hadn't Won the Chip yet!!

  • @notcoolkev3770
    @notcoolkev3770 Před 2 lety +21

    Stop letting the media fan boys make things up for lebron. And don’t let his tweets fool you.
    50 point games
    1. Wilt 118
    2. Jordan 31
    3. Kobe 25
    7. Lebron/lillard 12
    60 point games
    1. Wilt 32
    2. Kobe 6
    3. Jordan 4
    4. Harden 4
    5. Baylor 3
    6. Lillard 3
    40 point games
    1. Wilt 221
    2. Jordan 173
    3. Kobe 122
    11. Lebron 66

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 2 lety +2

      They could have said this and ended the conversation

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 Před 2 lety +3

      You Jordan fans say LeBron has better stats than Jordan because LeBron played more seasons, lol, it's not about how many games/seasons you play, jordan on average attempted 23 shots per game in the season, lebron 19.

    • @MikeBNumba6
      @MikeBNumba6 Před 2 lety +6

      @@dynamic6645 so you're saying if LeBron shot 5 more times he could do the same?
      I still disagree because LeBron is a worse free throw shooter and worse at jump shots..
      I guess if he drives to the basket 5 more times and not get fouled then sure. But that's a big if

    • @torycaswell4204
      @torycaswell4204 Před 2 lety +2

      Good point

  • @wild100sQ
    @wild100sQ Před 2 lety +6

    Jordan was 9x All NBA Defense and 3x Steals Champion.
    Jordan is the only player since 1973-74 (when steals and blocks were first recorded) to submit 200 steals and 100 blocks in two different seasons. He didn't just score Shannon damn. We can Google this information..... damn.
    And Jordan retired twice. He left points off his career too....

  • @dantealoving
    @dantealoving Před 2 lety +17

    Its easier to score nowadays. In Jordans era every team had 7 footers patrolling the paint and goons put in to give hard fouls.

    • @kiltz1161
      @kiltz1161 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah cause there's no 7 footers in the league today

    • @jakirohiro1960
      @jakirohiro1960 Před 2 lety +5

      @@kiltz1161i think his point was big men stayed strictly in the paint. While usually big men are used to spread the floor these days so it opens up the paint more to drive

    • @boldandbrash259
      @boldandbrash259 Před 2 lety

      In today's time we have big men who can shoot

    • @warrengaytero1682
      @warrengaytero1682 Před 2 lety

      Dou you think they will slow down lebron? Im not even a LeBron fan but that guy is a freak of nature and super athletic and one of the best finisher

    • @Jdot2tact
      @Jdot2tact Před 2 lety +2

      @@warrengaytero1682 Yes they would. Hes suer athletic not fuckign Thanos. He simply would have a harder time scoring. Bro gets most his points off riving and has a mediocre mid range game at best. This era has 7 footers shooting 30 foot bombs. He dosent have to worry about getting clobbered at the rim every single drive. In a more paint dominant NBA, LEbron, the man who score this points by driving INTO THE PAINT is gonna have a harder time. This why ppl hate bron fans. Most of y'all are children and can't think critically.

  • @custommade78
    @custommade78 Před 2 lety

    Oh boy. How’d I stumble upon an old clip from 10 years ago. Feeling nostalgic 🤦‍♂️

  • @NoonyJW
    @NoonyJW Před 2 lety +27

    That 50PPG could’ve come in handy in them 6 finals losses 👀

    • @bambam23406
      @bambam23406 Před 2 lety +6

      Coulda helped Jordan make the playoffs or make it to the finals just as many times

    • @Terror832
      @Terror832 Před 2 lety +6

      Wish LeBron could face EDP Malone and Philippe Stockton instead of MVP prime Kevin Durant and Stephen Curry

    • @tommydavidwalker2445
      @tommydavidwalker2445 Před 2 lety

      @@bambam23406 and still has less finals wins. Work twice as much to still not have 6.

    • @kingp7768
      @kingp7768 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Terror832 EDP malone 🤣🤣

    • @Yoaneemmanuel
      @Yoaneemmanuel Před 2 lety

      @@bambam23406 he made less times coz he played less years and still won more, hold this L

  • @alfarouqaminufor3892
    @alfarouqaminufor3892 Před 2 lety +57

    Lebron James total 3 pointers made: 1,979
    Michael Jordan total 3 pointers made: 581
    Jordan may take more shots but he doesnt shoot the 3 like this era does.
    Jordan averaged over 30 points taking 2 pointers. That's why he has more of a shot selection.

    • @billwill2693
      @billwill2693 Před 2 lety +4

      You do realize lebron average alot of those points below the 3 point line he just started really shooting 3 in 2018 go look at his averages early on

    • @shaneanthonyy
      @shaneanthonyy Před 2 lety +13

      @@billwill2693 you just helped that mans argument

    • @billwill2693
      @billwill2693 Před 2 lety +1

      @@shaneanthonyy No I'm saying lebron I'd better 2 point scorer than mike. MJ had the moves lebron did it at rim. This guy is making it sound like lebron needed 3s to score 30 and he didn't

    • @Josh-sk5xd
      @Josh-sk5xd Před 2 lety +5

      @@billwill2693 Again MJ is also the better 2pt scorer compared to Lebron since MJ has 30k points scored in 2pts in 15 seasons and Lebron has 29K points scored in 2pts in 18 seasons smh!

    • @billwill2693
      @billwill2693 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Josh-sk5xd Lebron has not passed MJ in field goal attempts if Lebron shot the ball as much as mj did per season he would probably have scored 50000 points in his career it took Lebron 5 extra season to get close to mike in FG Attempts. Give Lebron his credit

  • @andrewtaylor995
    @andrewtaylor995 Před 2 lety +14

    In MJ's 88-89 season he averaged 32.5 pts/8 rebounds/8 assists. That looks like a lot more than just scoring Shannon.

    • @cloutscout1003
      @cloutscout1003 Před 2 lety +8

      Those stats are crazy but to be fair he played 41 minutes a night which is crazy high and also impressive how his body was able to withstand all those minutes

    • @NBAKING149
      @NBAKING149 Před 2 lety +7

      Misleading stats is wat they call it wen westbrook does it and loses

    • @whenisdinner2137
      @whenisdinner2137 Před rokem +1

      ​@@NBAKING149 what you're forgetting is that Michael Jordan was all-nba defense so he's not just wasting all his energy on offense and doing nothing on the other end like Westbrook

    • @stonetoadaustin528
      @stonetoadaustin528 Před 11 měsíci +3

      And they did a whole buncha losing. Ive seen bron do the same exact statline in 07 and lose in the finals. Nobody cares about nothing unless you win a ring. Bulls team got more complete. It allowed jordan to score and play defense his natural two best talents.

    • @frederickfutrell993
      @frederickfutrell993 Před 10 měsíci +2

      One season ? 😂 whoaaa Lebron does it every season any great can do that for one

  • @justinmorales1511
    @justinmorales1511 Před 2 lety +2

    "You a hater" 🤣🤣 Shannon cracks me up

  • @keynondemmings8160
    @keynondemmings8160 Před 2 lety +49

    Shannon bring up players like, Kerr, BJ Armstrong, Cartwright and Rodman like they were All-stars lol

    • @stevenadkins6
      @stevenadkins6 Před 2 lety +5

      Rodman was an all star and is a hall of famer lol. Kerr has one of the greatest 3pt% for a career of all time. They were all great role players.

    • @famousdex1782
      @famousdex1782 Před 2 lety +9

      @@stevenadkins6 “they were all great role players” says this while only bringing up the names you know. How bout Armstrong? Cartwright? They didn’t go to the hall of fame or have a high 3pt%

    • @smokeabaguhthat5443
      @smokeabaguhthat5443 Před 2 lety +12

      @@stevenadkins6 ROLE players ain't ALLSTAR..one time Rodman grabbed 40+ rebounds and didnt score a single basket in two games back to back ..lebron wouldve had him traded!

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Před 2 lety +12

      @@stevenadkins6 Rodman was never a superstar. He was never a star player in the league. He was never a top 20 player in the league. He was never the best player on his team, let alone any of his 5 champion rosters. Rodman was the greatest reb & hustle player. Stop making it seem like he was more than that.

    • @xavierhebert397
      @xavierhebert397 Před 2 lety +6

      Bro finally somebody said it if skip would do some research he would destroy Shannon on the debates

  • @JJohnson313
    @JJohnson313 Před 2 lety +3

    I dislike that they make MJ only offense when he was a great defender. He wasn’t just score score score.

    • @rochambeau2111
      @rochambeau2111 Před 2 lety

      Exactly lol

    • @webslinger4733
      @webslinger4733 Před 2 lety

      Exactly. His facilitating is a little underrated too. Not a lot of ppl avg 23 attempts per game AND 6 assists in their prime.

  • @mindlink1811
    @mindlink1811 Před 2 lety +2

    If you transplanted the 90s bulls into today's era and they practiced three point shooting, they would win 6 chips in a row with Jordan averaging 45 points a game.

  • @SJaxn1224
    @SJaxn1224 Před 2 lety +2

    Skip had no argument and was just arguing feelings. At this point he’s a cartoon character 🤣🤣🤣

    • @enigmaticgenius7717
      @enigmaticgenius7717 Před 2 lety +1

      All Shannon's argument were hypothetical....
      What ifs🤣🤣🤣
      Shannon 'feels' LBJ is better and speak about what lbj never did as if that is going to make his arguments factual!

    • @SNIPEonSIGHT
      @SNIPEonSIGHT Před 2 lety +2

      @@enigmaticgenius7717 facts

  • @africangamerr
    @africangamerr Před 2 lety +34

    Shannon’s research guy needs a promotion 1:00 - 1:17 that’s some very good stats

    • @TheMissiIe
      @TheMissiIe Před 2 lety +1

      It's a conceiving stat, Lebron shoots the most from 0-3ft from the rim and makes ~65%.. excluding his shots from 0-3ft he shoots ~37%.. so Lebron isn't a great shooter and that's why his FG% is higher than MJ's, as anywhere on the court (excluding 0-3ft) MJ shoots ~50%

    • @denzelodimara2947
      @denzelodimara2947 Před 2 lety

      @@TheMissiIe that’s just not true at all Lebrons midrange shooting from 8-12ft gotta be around 50%

    • @africangamerr
      @africangamerr Před 2 lety

      @@TheMissiIe ok… doesn’t take away it’s a great stat that required tons of research

    • @cannibalmanimal2336
      @cannibalmanimal2336 Před 2 lety

      Damn right, either way you mix it no matter how much he shoots he hits half. The closer the shots the higher the percentage of course, but along w that comes the extra fouls & free throws so either way it’s advantage him.

  • @august6281
    @august6281 Před 2 lety +156

    yes, he could avg 30+ but we can never tell if that will translate to more wins, more rings

    • @B.Piercesports
      @B.Piercesports Před 2 lety +10

      Thats why he didn't

    • @TreyDoe
      @TreyDoe Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly

    • @lessthanaminutenbaclips7409
      @lessthanaminutenbaclips7409 Před 2 lety +13

      It would result on more rings. He would have won 2011, and won the rest that he won.

    • @AnthonyOfficial_
      @AnthonyOfficial_ Před 2 lety +7

      @@lessthanaminutenbaclips7409 maybe 2011 but he was averaging 30 against the Spurs and Warriors every time he lost..

    • @B.Piercesports
      @B.Piercesports Před 2 lety

      @@lessthanaminutenbaclips7409 he wasn't aggressive that series

  • @russwagner8805
    @russwagner8805 Před 2 lety +18

    Nothing harder then playing both sides.. n Mike was asked to win.. job well done mike

    • @consequencescomsequences5343
      @consequencescomsequences5343 Před 2 lety +1

      Can’t win without a team. He was asked to defend and score. 1-9 without the all stars he had. Everybody needs help, including him.

    • @russwagner8805
      @russwagner8805 Před 2 lety

      @@consequencescomsequences5343 mike was asked to win games n he did that.. not sure what your trying to say kiddo.. of course theres trials n errors.. of course he wasnt coming right into the nba n winning off rip with one of the worst teams in the league.. mike paid his dues n when the time came to win he won.. of course he had a team its basketball .... duh.. lmao

    • @consequencescomsequences5343
      @consequencescomsequences5343 Před 2 lety

      @@russwagner8805 he was asked to score and defend. That’s the premise of what they spoke about in the video above. That’s why you’re a “Fan” and not a “Player”. Mans really gave an Opinion when the actual analysts gave facts and you STILL chose your own answer. Comical

    • @russwagner8805
      @russwagner8805 Před 2 lety

      @@consequencescomsequences5343 jordan was asked to win n he did that .. that's not a opinion.. them the facts.. n they was talking about if bron actually tried to score what would he average .. that's speculation n opinions at its finest.. I wont be replying anymore cuz your not making sense.. I'm 32 n I've been playing ball my whole life .. born in ohio..

    • @russwagner8805
      @russwagner8805 Před 2 lety

      @The Progressive Brit that's not true stats n the eye test say different.. I know you see a bigger stronger guy n you assume he is better . But theres no way he is a better defender on ball or off.. mike would leave his guy just to get steals or blocks .. multiple steals leader n plentiful of first team defensive.. your wrong sir.. with all do respect..

  • @bradmills8324
    @bradmills8324 Před 2 lety +2

    Coulda woulda shoulda with Lebron and it's hilarious when Shannon brings up Bill Cartwright and Bill Wennington playing with Jordan haha

  • @bartphilips2222
    @bartphilips2222 Před 2 lety +23

    Jordan (6'6) offensive rebounds career average : 1.6
    LeBron (6'9) offensive rebounds career average: 1.2
    Jordan never told teammates to leave him uncontested defensive rebounds to pad stats. he didn't care.

    • @theadwatcher5335
      @theadwatcher5335 Před 2 lety

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 yes because Lebron tells everybody while playing Dont rebound the ball I’ll grab every rebound.

    • @LoftyXsWaGX34
      @LoftyXsWaGX34 Před 2 lety +3

      What exactly was this stat suppose to prove? Bron still averages more rebounds and assist because he had a bigger role. Mj was always just a scorer.
      Explain the stat tho I don’t see what you were trying to prove.

    • @bartphilips2222
      @bartphilips2222 Před 2 lety +2

      @@theadwatcher5335 that's what he does to catch the ghost from Chicago.

    • @bartphilips2222
      @bartphilips2222 Před 2 lety +4

      @@LoftyXsWaGX34 these stats were supposed to prove that you're a bronsexual. thank you for participating in this social experiment.

    • @theadwatcher5335
      @theadwatcher5335 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bartphilips2222 😂😂😂😂😂😂 it’s pure facts that Lebron is a better rebounder and assister than Kobe and Jordan but it’s ok your not ready to accept that.

  • @MINK2393
    @MINK2393 Před 2 lety +9

    I don’t wanna hear Shannon Sharpe talk anything basketball related… Especially when it comes to Lebron James…. It’s like Skip talking Tom Brady or Jordan…

    • @coldwolf7014
      @coldwolf7014 Před 2 lety +3

      Name one thing he said today that was wrong? This was directed at Skip Bayless who gives Lebron no credit. So Skip won’t give Lebron credit for getting to the finals in 07 and dominating for a decade and have superior competition in the finals, but gives MJ all the credit even tho he also didn’t win his first 6 years in the league and was focused on scoring and didn’t want to change anything until Phil got there so they can share the ball and be an actual team.

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 Před 2 lety

      Facts

    • @rose-jo1dx
      @rose-jo1dx Před 2 lety

      Lebron shot less but has more points

  • @kristijanEX
    @kristijanEX Před 2 lety +6

    How does that make sense when MJ's shooting percentage is almost the same as Bron's, not to mention Jordan's buckets whilst dunks and layups, are mostly middies. Most of Lebron's buckets are at the rim.

    • @kristijanEX
      @kristijanEX Před 2 lety +1

      @@FrankWhite248 that's because of the era and how he's allowed to shoot more 3s, in fact Jordan shot a better 3pt percentage when he shot more threes and has stated that he doesn't work on the threes part of his because it detracts from his whole game, which I agree with considering how some players today ignore other skills just for three point shooting.
      I'm not saying every player, e.g. Steph Curry "the revolutionizer" himself has plenty of other skills that he can utilize other than 3pt shooting, which is what makes him an even more dangerous 3pt shooter, but also scoring threat. He can move well off ball, he's fast and agile, he has a good drive game, a good floater with a high release point which is necessary in the paint with giants whilst Curry only stands at 6'3..etc.
      Ofc whilst he did shoot better with more attempts, there's also the correlation that he got worse with age, which is true, after the line became longer he got worse again, but in his prime during the first three peat he was dangerous there and improved the deeper he went into the playoffs, he is one of the only players to shoot 40% + in 3 separate Finals series and sure he only shoot about 4 attempts during that time, but it shows what he's capable of. The thing that goes against Michael Jordan is that his 0.1-0.5 3pt attempt seasons get counted against him and count towards his percentage. If you only count the percentages from the years he attempted at least one three, he shot 35% for his career.

    • @kristijanEX
      @kristijanEX Před 2 lety

      @@FrankWhite248 bro do you know what the average 3pt shooting percentage was back then and now ? 33% on less average attempts back then and 35% on more average attempts now.
      Jordan had seasons higher than both of those numbers without the shortened line. Jordan wasn't a terrible 3 point shooter and you didn't prove me wrong because you just said I was wrong without backing up your answer with any statistics.
      He had 3 above average seasons by those metrics without the shortened line, 2 with the shortened line, because that was basically a long middie to him, which he made at an above average rate.
      Not to mention his 3pt% in the playoffs where he is straight up average for the era and he is above average for his Finals appearances with 37% even by today's standards.
      Case in point, not a terrible 3 point shooter, but a terrible 3 point shooters by the standards he set for himself. If Jordan had a 40% 3 point career average, what are you gonna do against him ? Nothing.

  • @aaronarguelles8322
    @aaronarguelles8322 Před 2 lety +12

    And if he had gone 6 for 6 with 6 finals mvps he’d have done that. But do you LBJ

  • @Epiphda1
    @Epiphda1 Před 2 lety +29

    OMG stop it man....
    He's not MJ...
    There's a reason he doesn't shoot as much as Jordan he doesn't have that mentality like Mike did period...this is just another attempt to feed into the BS plzzzzzz stop it HE'S not MJ.
    Mike hitting free throws with his eyes closed & Bron struggling with his open. Nuff said

    • @patrickdiew2271
      @patrickdiew2271 Před 2 lety

      Lol facts

    • @jacobfarley247
      @jacobfarley247 Před 2 lety

      Because jordan isn’t a team player

    • @ballermvtb4853
      @ballermvtb4853 Před 2 lety

      Jordan can’t hit 3s tho but mentality bro

    • @Epiphda1
      @Epiphda1 Před 2 lety

      @@ballermvtb4853
      If you seen him play 3's wasn't his game but he cld have adjusted easily....but why when offensively he was unstoppable!

    • @Epiphda1
      @Epiphda1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jacobfarley247
      LoL...tell that to anyone that played with him that has multiple rings.

  • @slickshotzz13
    @slickshotzz13 Před 2 lety +43

    That's probably one of the most insane stats I've ever heard. That's over 2 straight seasons where he didn't shoot more than 30 times, and he still averages 27 points a game. That just goes to show how efficient he really is shooting the basketball and being able to affect the game in more ways than 1.

    • @kwadwohilton2126
      @kwadwohilton2126 Před 2 lety

      Salute!

    • @williebender1895
      @williebender1895 Před 2 lety +5

      Who lebron? That’s false he’s not shooting the ball better. He’s dunking more and shooting layups. Had his shooting resulted in winning you have a case. Lebron also has the 2nd most turnovers.

    • @christianhenderson9989
      @christianhenderson9989 Před 2 lety +2

      @@williebender1895 his shooting is sufficiently better than before, he’s hitting threes from the logo whenever he’s hot just watch the games

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 Před 2 lety +6

      Bro... He shoots close to the basket...

    • @dododump3144
      @dododump3144 Před 2 lety

      @@iluvcakes19 in 2015-17 he shot on average 4 3’s a game and made 34% of them which isn’t horrible

  • @nucl3arboNg
    @nucl3arboNg Před 2 lety +9

    You know Shannon has lost when he says Jordan had Bill Wennington lol

  • @ijayrizzy3116
    @ijayrizzy3116 Před 2 měsíci +1

    2:03 OUTTA BOUNDS!! SHANNON 😂

  • @richnxtdoor
    @richnxtdoor Před 2 lety +44

    *Shannon continuing to prove Skip wrong*
    *Skip* - “LeBrick, LeCoulda, LeShoulda, LeFirstRound” 😂

  • @HensumBoi
    @HensumBoi Před 2 lety +45

    Terrible logic by Shannon. The more shots you take in a game usually means your efficiency starts to drop. Otherwise you can argue DeAndre Jordan could average 50 if he took >30 shots too (his career FG% is 67.4%).

    • @obiwanyutuben
      @obiwanyutuben Před 2 lety +25

      He gave you the math. Lebron has games where he averaged as many shots as Jordan and his efficiency stayed the same. Are you okay man? What's up with your listening comprehension.

    • @obiwanyutuben
      @obiwanyutuben Před 2 lety +1

      @@paradigmshift7541 oh so if lbj takes more shots he would take more of the shots he makes less of? And you know that how? Lbj has taken more shots and his efficiency was the same on average. Lowest is 49%

    • @lastofthestarmakers3660
      @lastofthestarmakers3660 Před 2 lety +8

      @@obiwanyutuben Bro it’s alot harder to have great efficiency taking volume shots outside the paint. This is a fact.
      Not to take away from scorers who mainly score from inside but it’s not comparable to scorers who mainly shoot the ball.

    • @nick2gateway581
      @nick2gateway581 Před 2 lety

      Bro you gotta use common sense too lmao. And for Lebron that’s only like a 4-6 point jump, so his efficiency won’t significantly dip on a few more shots a game

    • @notcoolkev3770
      @notcoolkev3770 Před 2 lety

      Thanks you

  • @AnthonyAnalog
    @AnthonyAnalog Před 2 lety +4

    Too bad MJ never teamed up with 2 other top 5 picks. Twice. Once from his own draft class.

  • @killmeinorder
    @killmeinorder Před 2 lety +4

    So what would have happened if Jordan had dominated the ball like Lebron and run POINT Guard?

  • @shroudedghosthunter8463
    @shroudedghosthunter8463 Před 2 lety +142

    Jordan averaged a little over 5 assists a game. That's pretty damn good considering he's always mentioned as the greatest scorer. Also 6 boards.

    • @felipe5955
      @felipe5955 Před 2 lety +43

      My thing with Jordan is he was just way above the talent level in his era. He didn’t have to battle against a single top 20 all time perimeter player (In their Prime). I would love to see him go against the more skilled and athletic guards that he opened the door for. No doubt he would still be a best but his competition was overrated af. Centers dominated the game back then not wings like today

    • @jlnxn5374
      @jlnxn5374 Před 2 lety +15

      @@felipe5955 I would agree with you but Jordan came back with the wiz as an old man who was out of the league and still dropped points on good defenders, think he scored 40+ on Ron arrest after Ron was already a dpoy if I’m not mistaken , and that’s when he’s 38-40

    • @andyheath5244
      @andyheath5244 Před 2 lety +21

      @@felipe5955 Gary Payton, penny, grant hill, Isaiah Thomas, magic Johnson also he faced Kobe, AI, Vince Carter, t-mac in their prime when he came back at 40 after 3 years off and averaged 23 with the wizards

    • @felipe5955
      @felipe5955 Před 2 lety +4

      @Brian Gore Your missing my point. Jordan is a generational talent. Just like Lebron, Kobe, Magic, Bird etc he would be great in any era. I’m just saying Jordan faced weaker competition for the most part. Magic had Larry to duel. Bron had the spurs dynasty, GSW and KD as his main rivals. Kobe had the spurs dynasty also. The biggest rival jordan had were the pistons who led by Isaiah Thomas.

    • @jackjax7921
      @jackjax7921 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah they swept 3 year Kobe Lmao

  • @osseyf.4120
    @osseyf.4120 Před 2 lety +85

    Whenever Skip is on the defensive and clutching for straws you can see it in his demeanour and how he talks 🤣

    • @rl1491
      @rl1491 Před 2 lety

      U a psychologists?

    • @osseyf.4120
      @osseyf.4120 Před 2 lety +3

      @@rl1491 No you don't need to be one to study human behaviour and body language.

    • @cymandejackson956
      @cymandejackson956 Před 2 lety

      Facts. When skip has his back to the he sqirms like a worm on a hook. Man is always biting his lip and and always back tracking

  • @kostaszafiridis5347
    @kostaszafiridis5347 Před 2 lety +3

    "What if Lebron would have Shaq?" Didnt he play with Shaq lol?

  • @deonmckinney1498
    @deonmckinney1498 Před 2 lety +8

    the most adequate thing skip said "the objective of basketball is scoring"

  • @zinjgreen3398
    @zinjgreen3398 Před 2 lety +69

    If Lebron shot more he wouldn't have that much assist either.

    • @iluvcakes19
      @iluvcakes19 Před 2 lety +26

      True, something's gotta give.. That or his efficiency

    • @shaneanthonyy
      @shaneanthonyy Před 2 lety +4

      Its a very phony argument innit ?

    • @jasonandyjoseph
      @jasonandyjoseph Před 2 lety

      @@shaneanthonyy I agree with you. This debate is tired and full of it.

    • @blackmarlin3166
      @blackmarlin3166 Před 2 lety +3

      Check their usage rate. Lebron's highest usage rate in any season ranks only number 50 all-time while mj has 4 seasons in the top 50, westbrook and harden also has 4. Lebron could easily up his points and assist all together if only he ballhogged.

    • @zinjgreen3398
      @zinjgreen3398 Před 2 lety

      @@blackmarlin3166 if he is efficient he can, but you can't say that because Lebron had the all time in turnovers, if the defender know Lebron wouldn't pass they can easily guard him Lebron had no go to move to be an effecient scorer.

  • @gd9205
    @gd9205 Před 2 lety +175

    LeBron and Jordan could be in wheelchairs and Skip would use LeBrons wheelchair speed against his legacy.

    • @datjitdj1695
      @datjitdj1695 Před 2 lety +3

      Ong lebron can’t even post on Instagram without it going against his greatness

    • @yomommalikethismeat9968
      @yomommalikethismeat9968 Před 2 lety +5

      That’s cause you LBJ stans overhype Lebron to no end.

    • @Lifeofalexp1
      @Lifeofalexp1 Před 2 lety +8

      @@yomommalikethismeat9968 and mj fans don’t !!????

    • @shaneanthonyy
      @shaneanthonyy Před 2 lety

      @@Lifeofalexp1 nah we dont lol. Bron stans are OD and MJ fans just laughing at yall man

    • @jacobfarley247
      @jacobfarley247 Před 2 lety +5

      @@shaneanthonyy Jesus get off mj’s jockstrap already

  • @frankieboy8414
    @frankieboy8414 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Did Shannon just say Lebron never had another guy like Charles Oakley?? Lmaooo

  • @koroivere
    @koroivere Před 2 lety +1

    Would've, could've, should've... Difference is that 1 player looks back and says he did what he needed to win 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

  • @skipbayless4375
    @skipbayless4375 Před 2 lety +31

    Shannon: I wish i could've seen Lebron with Shaq.
    Lebron teammates: AD, Westbrook, Kyrie, K Love, Bosh, Wade

    • @DTS_I
      @DTS_I Před 2 lety +15

      Technically LeBron did play with Shaq lmao

    • @kase121
      @kase121 Před 2 lety +2

      @Joseph Brown how many rings do you think Shaq won without Kobe dummie?

    • @skipbayless4375
      @skipbayless4375 Před 2 lety +1

      @Joseph Brown Yeah, and that player won with Shaq as his teammate and won finals MVP over shaq averaging 35 ppg in the finals 😂😂😂

    • @DTS_I
      @DTS_I Před 2 lety

      @CUBAthaGOAT Shaq is Shaq

    • @kase121
      @kase121 Před 2 lety +1

      @Joseph Brown well If you did have a profile pic it would be easier sir

  • @icetray2727
    @icetray2727 Před 2 lety +27

    LeBron usually scores on layups, dunks, and putbacks (0-3 feet).

    • @christianwhite7294
      @christianwhite7294 Před 2 lety

      Jordan also scored mostly from this range🤦🏾‍♂️ he was just a better mid range shooter while lebron is a better finisher

    • @cedricrichardsonsr1057
      @cedricrichardsonsr1057 Před 2 lety +3

      🤓 bad eyes huh? LeBron shot way better from 3 than Kobe and Jordan check the status

    • @cedricrichardsonsr1057
      @cedricrichardsonsr1057 Před 2 lety

      @@paradigmshift7541 989 career blocks 2063 steals is cherry-picking lmao this the NBA not pick up basketball at the YMCA

    • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
      @DragonoftheDarknessFlame Před 2 lety +1

      and still passed Jordan with 1.2K fewer shots

    • @tb4151
      @tb4151 Před 2 lety

      Bruh Jordan literally scored most of his points from that same range

  • @oryanfiles9620
    @oryanfiles9620 Před 2 lety +5

    The fact that they say things that never gets fact check, for the bulls first 3peat mike average 30 all 3 seasons and in 96 he also averaged 30

  • @samuelclark1677
    @samuelclark1677 Před 2 lety +1

    The name of this show should be Undisputed with Skip, Shannon and Lebron

  • @signaturesneakers267
    @signaturesneakers267 Před 2 lety +15

    Michael Jordan is the Greatest ever and will remain the greatest Shannon and Lebron are pissing me off so disrespectful

    • @patrickdiew2271
      @patrickdiew2271 Před 2 lety

      Lol facts

    • @jacobfarley247
      @jacobfarley247 Před 2 lety

      Aw u getting mad😢

    • @jacobfarley247
      @jacobfarley247 Před 2 lety

      Kareem is better than mj

    • @dewman7477
      @dewman7477 Před 2 lety

      @@jacobfarley247 Kareem only flaw is that he has less finals mvps than MJ. Kareem only has 2 finals mvps while MJ has 6 finals mvps. And MJ has 5 mvps in regular season while Kareem has 6.
      MJ has more individual accomplishments than Kareem (although Kareem leafs scoring in nba history MJ has highest scoring average in nba history).

  • @themightyruler1319
    @themightyruler1319 Před 2 lety +48

    People forget Jordan averaged a ridiculous triple double when asked to run point, completely destroying the league.
    The man put up 32/8/8 with all time great defense and people who don’t know the sport will tell you he wasn’t getting teammates involved 😂
    Jordan was one of, if not the greatest playmaker in NBA history. He was an unmatched perimeter threat, with very underrated IQ, ball handling, craftiness, and versatile passing with very good accuracy.
    What he slightly lacks in pure passing, he more than made up for that with his unmatched ability to draw defenses and get great looks for his teammates in the half and open court, in combination with his all time great finishing ability.

    • @heywella
      @heywella Před 2 lety +14

      Yea. People forget about him running the point. I also don't think LeBron is that much better of a passer than MJ like most people do. MJ made some of the craziest assists I've ever seen. Especially during that last 3 peat. His court vision was just as good as LeBron's is imo.

    • @themightyruler1319
      @themightyruler1319 Před 2 lety +8

      @@heywella I agree, but Jordan was such an amazing scorer (10 scoring titles 😂), that his overall game is heavily disrespected by the media and casual fans.
      He was as good a defender at his position as anyone that ever played, he was as good a playmaker at his position as anyone that ever played, and imo the best scorer ever.
      If he didn’t miss multiple seasons he would’ve been the all time leading scorer as well.

    • @chasedmelo1072
      @chasedmelo1072 Před 2 lety +17

      You’re smoking on rocks. Unmatched perimeter threat? You going off 2k MyTeam rating or sum😂😂 best playmaker ever? This one of the most biased takes I’ve ever heard😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @chasedmelo1072
      @chasedmelo1072 Před 2 lety +14

      The worst part is I bet you never watched MJ play live or on TV but you got all this to say 😂😂

    • @themightyruler1319
      @themightyruler1319 Před 2 lety +8

      @@chasedmelo1072 all i did was state facts 🤷🏽‍♂️
      You don’t gotta like it, but the petty insults are silly, I won’t dignify that 😆
      Jordan was as good as any defensive 2 guard in nba history, many would say he’s the best, which is very strongly backed by statistics.☑️
      Jordan has the record for PPG and scoring titles, despite missing 3 years out of his prime where he likely picks up 3 more 😂 and breezes past Kareem on the all time list. ☑️
      And he’s one of, if not the greatest playmaker in NBA history, despite the narrative the mainstream media will feed you ☑️
      Again, you don’t have to like it, you can have your own opinion 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @osayande6979
    @osayande6979 Před 2 lety +17

    Mike was a much better all around player than he’s given credit for. He had a stretch in 1990 when he was forced to play point guard because Pippen was out. He had 10 straight triple doubles while averaging over 30 points a game. It was a record until Westbrook broke it a few years ago

    • @OGmyOG
      @OGmyOG Před 6 měsíci

      he had 10 straight triple doubles when his team went 13-11 with a cast that won 27 before drafting him
      '
      at the same age without mo-wlliams lebron went 11-0 with help that won 18 without him the next year with a similar rotation and 19 without him over 14-games from 08-10
      jordan is an all-around slashline packer. He's nowhere near Lebron as a playmaker or floor-general. Stop box-watching

  • @lilaminovert9816
    @lilaminovert9816 Před 2 lety +2

    Sorry Shannon you were right until you said mj was only a scorer he was a scorer he was a lockdown defender a great passer leading his team in assists

  • @MaybachThree
    @MaybachThree Před 2 lety +39

    This dude just said “2015-2017 is becoming ancient history” I’m done with this whole show. Thanks skip

    • @raheemwilson894
      @raheemwilson894 Před 2 lety +10

      yet still he always brings up the 2017 finals for kd

    • @breakemoff9648
      @breakemoff9648 Před 2 lety +11

      Yet he still brings up Tebow's halftime speech from over a decade ago 😆

    • @AllBackends
      @AllBackends Před 2 lety +11

      And he still brings up the 2011 and 2013 Finals😭

    • @light_skit
      @light_skit Před 2 lety

      @@AllBackends “the chose one became the frozen one”

    • @jamesanderson2248
      @jamesanderson2248 Před 2 lety

      👏THANK YOU!!!!..Skip does that hypocritical ish whenever it benefits him .. Glad to know others caught that also!!!

  • @chuckbarkley2755
    @chuckbarkley2755 Před 2 lety +32

    I agree w Shannon. But if mj shot the same as a career in the era bron is he’d average more because of the freedom of movement in this era and more space because of the role player shooters

    • @forzaacmilan36
      @forzaacmilan36 Před 2 lety +3

      I hate when people do this argument because imagine lebron in an era with out zone? They litterally tried to make the nba easier for MJ

    • @chuckbarkley2755
      @chuckbarkley2755 Před 2 lety

      But Lebeon plays in era where every single team plays man for 95% of the game

    • @bigchungus7050
      @bigchungus7050 Před 2 lety

      @@chuckbarkley2755 they play man but switch alot they didn't do that in the 80s

    • @thebenc1537
      @thebenc1537 Před 2 lety +1

      Jordan averaged 40 in a time he got beat up by giants guarding the paint.

    • @James_utd123
      @James_utd123 Před 2 lety +1

      @@forzaacmilan36 Juve are clear

  • @pol44r
    @pol44r Před 2 lety +20

    But mj took 3 less 3 pointers than LeBron per game , and shot just 3 more FG per game , that is simply not true what Shannon says

    • @rovingwarrior3710
      @rovingwarrior3710 Před 2 lety

      And is Shannon somehow implying that Lebron would have more rings if he had shot the ball more and would not have lost 6 times in the finals? If Lebron could have won more by shooting more, then he is a coward for not doing so and a coward can't be the GOAT.

  • @MandyZor-El
    @MandyZor-El Před 2 lety +7

    Omg, Shannon’s still trying lol

  • @rakimgreaves-lee3971
    @rakimgreaves-lee3971 Před 2 lety +10

    And if MJ played in this era he would average 40

  • @realisreal7736
    @realisreal7736 Před 2 lety +61

    If LeBron played defense the way MJ did, he'd have made NBA all defense team 9 times with at least one DPOY

    • @williebender1895
      @williebender1895 Před 2 lety +3

      Lol facts

    • @ng7214
      @ng7214 Před 2 lety +13

      but in the playoffs statistically he has defended better than jordan and could guard all 5 positions, who cares about regular season awards

    • @dododump3144
      @dododump3144 Před 2 lety +21

      He should’ve won dpoy in 2013

    • @DeloFFF
      @DeloFFF Před 2 lety +3

      @@ng7214 no real old guy big types in today’s NBA . He should be able to guard all 5

    • @NotLikeUss
      @NotLikeUss Před 2 lety +8

      If MJ was asked to handle the ball as much as LeBron he would have at least one ALOY. Two different players playing two different roles.

  • @gxmusic5004
    @gxmusic5004 Před 2 lety

    Skip and Shannon I love listening to yall debate this shid 🔥

  • @almightyprofessor
    @almightyprofessor Před 2 lety +4

    It’s the way Kobe, MJ, and KD scores the ball that makes them better scores. They can give it to you any every way possible

  • @alajouwanturner6438
    @alajouwanturner6438 Před 2 lety +15

    Free throws is skip only arguement for everything 😂

    • @smokeabaguhthat5443
      @smokeabaguhthat5443 Před 2 lety +2

      Right! He couldve said a.lot more but clearly he got that tap on the shoulder to chill .. now all he does is complain about the free throws..

    • @ressestevenson7309
      @ressestevenson7309 Před 2 lety

      You 2 lebron buthole fans no damn well leflop can't shoot free throws.

    • @ressestevenson7309
      @ressestevenson7309 Před 2 lety

      Tell me where skip is lying at

    • @smokeabaguhthat5443
      @smokeabaguhthat5443 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ressestevenson7309 can u read bro? How did u come to the conclusion we are lebron fans dipsh!+?

    • @coryc7056
      @coryc7056 Před 2 lety +1

      Tru goats know they are intangibles like free throws can make champion or leave your team without a ring

  • @alfarouqaminufor3892
    @alfarouqaminufor3892 Před 2 lety +9

    Shannon just made another case for Jordan "half of them couldnt play today"
    Referring to Jordan's teammates, exactly Shannon Jordan played with plumbers for most of his entire career.

    • @toddjoseph2412
      @toddjoseph2412 Před 2 lety +1

      That goes both ways, he was also playing largely against plumbers.

    • @shaunphillips3236
      @shaunphillips3236 Před 2 lety

      @@toddjoseph2412 the amount of ignorance in that post is utterly ridiculous smfh

    • @alfarouqaminufor3892
      @alfarouqaminufor3892 Před 2 lety +1

      @@shaunphillips3236 really? All I did was point out that Jordan had a lot of bum teammates.

  • @cameronching9403
    @cameronching9403 Před 2 lety +3

    6 points game 3 2011 Final, enough said.

  • @Liquid12322
    @Liquid12322 Před 2 lety +17

    Kinda funny LeBron over there making his own teams recruiting anyone he wants so he can win jumping team to team

    • @1nfamousjustice
      @1nfamousjustice Před 2 lety +4

      LeGm

    • @megailfrisch1932
      @megailfrisch1932 Před 2 lety +2

      He’s jumping team to team ??

    • @Mark73172
      @Mark73172 Před 2 lety +6

      He's been playing 18 years, how many teams has he played for? And you call that jumping from team to team? You do realize KD has played for the same amount of teams in less time? You do realize James Harden has as well? You do realize LONZO BALL has done the same amount of teams?? Okay bruh

    • @1nfamousjustice
      @1nfamousjustice Před 2 lety +5

      @@Mark73172 lonzo ball doesn’t hop teams, he gets traded. Only superstars like Lebron can “hop teams” because they control where they go. With that out the way Lebron has only played with The Heat, Cavs and Lakers. That really isn’t a lot of teams for 18 years

    • @Mark73172
      @Mark73172 Před 2 lety +1

      @@1nfamousjustice those hoops you jumping are not even worth a further response after this... you get the point and you hear the Mike (pun intended) drop.

  • @waltlove8137
    @waltlove8137 Před 2 lety +16

    Every debate is either about Lebron,the Cowboys or Brady. Starting to get old 🤦‍♂️

    • @dntgshot1236
      @dntgshot1236 Před 2 lety

      IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN STOP WATCHING NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO VIEW THE SHOW!!!!!!

    • @torycaswell4204
      @torycaswell4204 Před 2 lety

      Ya this show and espn as a whole kinda sucks now

    • @waltlove8137
      @waltlove8137 Před 2 lety

      @@dntgshot1236thanks. I didnt lol

    • @SNIPEonSIGHT
      @SNIPEonSIGHT Před 2 lety

      Yet you keep coming bck here like us. They must be doing some right

    • @waltlove8137
      @waltlove8137 Před 2 lety

      @@SNIPEonSIGHT u must know me.. I actually read the topic of the debate before watching . So yea I'll be back when they "get it right" and actually have a debate worth watching.

  • @KleinpeterHank
    @KleinpeterHank Před 2 lety +26

    There’s been 8 times in modern NBA history where the scoring title winner also won the championship.
    6 of those times it was Jordan

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 Před 2 lety +3

      The game is a team sport you casual

    • @KleinpeterHank
      @KleinpeterHank Před 2 lety +4

      @@dynamic6645 Thanks. Didnt know.

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 Před 2 lety +1

      @@KleinpeterHank your comment clearly shows it lmao

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Před 2 lety +2

      @@dynamic6645 so if you’re coaching the best scorer ever you wouldn’t put him in position to attempt the most shots on the team ?

    • @dynamic6645
      @dynamic6645 Před 2 lety

      @King Dunbar Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy, lol

  • @tye9713
    @tye9713 Před 2 lety +1

    Skip: so the coach was telling lebron "u cannot shoot! 🤣

  • @jeremyperson8778
    @jeremyperson8778 Před 2 lety +3

    Shannon act's like "two way player ' is a real thing. Bon Bon melts every 4th Quarter like ice cream.

  • @Mateo-rd7jw
    @Mateo-rd7jw Před 2 lety +7

    Shannon still pronouncing Mozgov as “Mozgodov” 😂

  • @jordanmack4565
    @jordanmack4565 Před 2 lety +13

    Shannon loves bringing up the 80s, well what happened from 2003 to 2011? thats 8 years lebron didnt have a title. It took him almost a decade just to get one, while joining a super team and choking their first trip to the finals.

    • @kevionwhite8806
      @kevionwhite8806 Před 2 lety

      But people act like the 80s didnt happen for mj. He didnt join a superteam he form a superteam he and wade got bosh to come to the heat to play

    • @phillwilliams2781
      @phillwilliams2781 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kevionwhite8806 that's a lie. Everyone talks about the first 7 years before mj won a championship. People always say make fun he got swept by bird twice and the bad boys killed him and he couldn't win till they got "old"

    • @kevionwhite8806
      @kevionwhite8806 Před 2 lety

      @@phillwilliams2781 actually people that dont believe that mj is jesus in sneakers state that but any die hard old head fan that talk as if mj came in the league and just start winning that he single handedly drag those bulls teams to 2 3peats act like the 80s never happen

    • @jonathanfletcher7615
      @jonathanfletcher7615 Před 2 lety

      Jordan didn’t make it to the finals lebron was younger and had more on his shoulders and he took his team to the finals

  • @Mektek19
    @Mektek19 Před 2 lety +1

    You can't make it seem like Bron was some solo act his entire career when he played with Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie, Love, AD, Howard, and now Westbrook.

  • @114D
    @114D Před 2 lety +3

    If MJ wanted he could have averaged more rebounds and assists. MJ chose to shoot more and played in the triangle so that answers assists and he played in a more specialized NBA, a true 1-5, and that answers rebounds.
    He wasn’t allergic to either or incapable.
    Shannon doing all these mental gymnastics to make LBJ look better.
    His abandonment of teams, his failures in the Finals and his embarrassing ways he gave up on his team can’t be covered by all your mental gymnastics Shannon.

    • @johnnyblingg
      @johnnyblingg Před 2 lety

      If if if

    • @114D
      @114D Před 2 lety

      @@johnnyblingg oh like all the If If If you Bronsexuals do with LeBron and all his failures and LaCk oF HeLp?
      Imagine averaging all those rebounds/assists/points and still needing super teams and going 4-6. Embarrassing.

    • @johnnyblingg
      @johnnyblingg Před 2 lety

      @@114D Imagine thinking whining and bitching is a valid argument. lol embarrassing.

  • @starscream11216
    @starscream11216 Před 2 lety +50

    Does Shannon not know that Jordan was averaging 30 during the season for some of those championship runs or is his love for Lebron crying his memory?

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Před 2 lety +4

      All of his champion runs he did. He avg 33 in the playoffs & finals for his career.

    • @TrollinOn22s
      @TrollinOn22s Před 2 lety +16

      LeBron passed MJ with fewer shot attempts so I'm not sure why we're having a discussion.

    • @MR.__G
      @MR.__G Před 2 lety +13

      @@TrollinOn22s because he took way more 3s than mj. By a large margin. That’s why.

    • @Yoaneemmanuel
      @Yoaneemmanuel Před 2 lety +4

      @@MR.__G nah, it’s coz he played more seasons

    • @Yoaneemmanuel
      @Yoaneemmanuel Před 2 lety

      @Michael Martin that’s still an pro for playing 4 more seasons

  • @Tonio5100
    @Tonio5100 Před 2 lety +18

    Shannon literally said how many titles did Jordan win when averaging 30.......... Well Shannon he won 4 of his 6 scoring 30 in the regular season and for the PLAYOFFS he averaged 30 or more for ALL SIX TITLES 😂🤣😂 also why does Shannon talk as if Jordan & Kobe ONLY score & did nothing else like they didn't rebound & assist at ALL TIME LEVELS for SGs PLUS 1st team all defense every night smh

    • @theadwatcher5335
      @theadwatcher5335 Před 2 lety +2

      Kobe and Jordan aren’t even in the top 5 for all time assist as a shooting for so I don’t know where you got your information from and yes Jordan could rebound better than most shooting guards all time but he played 300 to 400 more games than most shooting guards so he was going to average more

    • @marcusjames9353
      @marcusjames9353 Před 2 lety

      👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @Tonio5100
      @Tonio5100 Před 2 lety +4

      @@theadwatcher5335 that's why AVERAGES are a BETTER judge than totals unless the compared players played the same amount of games but thats what career AVERAGES are for..... Names the SGs with better AVERAGES than Jordan & Kobe in rebounding & assist & that list will be very short cause off the top I can only think of Clyde Drexler & Wade with numbers in they ball park

    • @theadwatcher5335
      @theadwatcher5335 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Tonio5100 I’m not going to put every single person but AI James harden Reggie theus Clyde and wade are al above Jordan and Kobe in assist Kobe isn’t even top 10 in assist he’s like 13th or 14th

    • @theadwatcher5335
      @theadwatcher5335 Před 2 lety

      @@Tonio5100 if you wanna see all of them you can look them up yourself but them being all time greats in rebounding and assisting is false. Lebron is a all time great no matter the position when it comes to assisting 8th all time assisting and 3rd in points ever and 42nd in rebounds ever

  • @jaydon7956
    @jaydon7956 Před 2 lety +3

    Imagine what Kobe would’ve done with Wade and Bosh? 4 str8 rings! and so would Jordan!