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SCRAPING PAINT AFTER SEALS | NY TIMES REVIEW with Navy SEAL Jake Zweig
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As a Marine I will say most people are physically able to complete training(USMC) its all the mental stuff that makes people quite. Also most people quite soon as things get hard. Being cold and wet is one of the most miserable things there is but if you cant block that out of your mind and finish you ain't gonna last long out in Coronado . We did some IBS training out there in the middle of July and the water still COLD!
Do people quit at USMC boot camp. What happens when they say they're done.
@@micclayit’s not that easy, but you can for sure quit usmc boot camp. You will most likely get a crappy discharge on your record.
“If you were willing to throw yourself off a 5 story bulging maybe you should’ve tried harder in seal training “ 🤣😅😂😂 blunt but he does have a logical point .
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This is messed up.
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This is interesting. I was a corpsman assigned to Marine infantry platoons (grunts). When I was going through training we had tons of SEAL training drops (BUD/S Duds we called them) and most of them seemed to always end up being rockstar corpsmen within their platoons and most end up working with Scout Snipers or becoming SARCs (Recon Corpsmen). Hard to imagine that there are just no opportunities now, but this was also about 10 years ago
War gives people the opportunity where peace time does not
There was a lot of back and forth between NSW and FMF when I was in. They would come around looking for high PT FMF corpsmen to recruit for BUDS. It seemed like they were always needing Corpsmen. Ed Byers spent 4 years in the FMF before he went to BUDS.
High-quality video Jake. It makes sense that each branch would market its most glamorous roles to entice those seeking to join. When I graduated HS in 86, the Army pushed the Apache on many of their brochures, for example. This is why we need people like you, to tell the truth, and help people prepare, but always share the harsh reality of not being prepared or otherwise failing.
Yes sir that is why we do what we do
The Navy never promises you any job. Just the opportunity to apply yourself to try to get into what ever field you want. If you wind up scraping paint there is nothing wrong with that. You are building character and learning about humility. No different than the corporate world. Everyone wants to have there own office with a fancy suit job but sometimes you have to start from the bottom and work your way up. In my opinion I would rather hire someone who started from the bottom and had the desire to work there way up than to take in someone who wants there own key to the bathroom.
There is no elevator to the top ..
..there are floors and floors
@@jakezweig some of the most well known seals have been med rolled. It’s not for everyone, but even Goggins got rolled twice. I’m not sure I would say he has weak genes.
You and I both know there are kids who crush p3 performance times during p1 who get sipe or splints and are told they are med rolled and then all of a sudden get told to rerate or get medsep without rymne or reason. They’re not duckers and put out and have no quit in them. Then they have buddies who get bad peer reviews barely pass p times and get splints or pneumonia and get classed up again.
I agree 100% quit and go to fleet. But kids who don’t have quit in them are highly motivated and the Navy can take advantage of these boys and if they did we both know they would excel.
Not only that, but if they were truly given the opportunity to bud/s up again they would do well. Truth is 99% don’t get to come back again even when told they could.
Cadre needs to lead by example.
@@hugostiglitz8855 yes completely agree that there is a bunch of shit going on at BUD, that same shit was there when I went through, we had a stud tear his hamstring 200 yards from the finish line on the last timed 4 mile run. He was on pace for a 26 minute 4 mile, they med dropped him.....it made no sense.
They don't scrape paint in the corporate world.
@@stephen3762 I can't believe you took the corporate world metaphor literally. Shaking my head in disbelief.
Reality is a slap in the face for those who think life is just a game
Life is a game you just have to play it properly
@@ABC-dw7pe It's not a game when you sign 6 years of your life away
Real shit man. The navy will fuck you
@@josharnold. I partially agree with you, especially when it comes to combat.
But some of the best advice that I was never able to successfully follow in the Navy was to “play the game”.
I was never able to “play that game”, so I got out.
@@internet_internet I was able to figure out how to play it in the Marine Corps, until I couldn't anymore...and also got out. Then I joined the Army reserves/National Guard and realized I REALLY couldn't play the game anymore and got out of that too. Then I played the VA game...much more helpful game to play for us veterans.
I’ve scraped enough paint before the Navy. Still do.
Glad I got out early, and didn’t
have to end up stuck doing the same things on the inside under worse conditions that I’ve done and still do on the outside.
I’ve listened to guys that we’re SEALs and got to go on missions that said, “you’re out on a mission, in the middle of nowhere…. Nobody can come get you if it goes to hell….. only choice is to walk however many miles to exfil point. And at that moment I realized why SEAL training is so hard. If I’m hurt, my buddy is hurt, etc…. Help probably can’t come straight to me and get us…. We’ll have to fight/run/ruck/swim/climb to exfil….. you quit out here and you and/or those around you will die…..”
Yup
Damn, I needed this today. Jake, you are so right. America has gotten so soft. Every one of these candidates know if you don't make it then you have a crap job, literally. They all think they're going to make it. If I get anything from this article, it's if you're gonna quit, QUIT EARLY! 🤭
Don't go!!!!!
Haha! Great Narration, Mr. Zweig! Sheesh, maybe, decades ago, a young sailor could've been duped, not knowing if they quit BUDS they could end up scraping paint. But c'mon! That's widely known by now. It's another reason one should thoroughly check themselves and investigate all possible outcomes. That ain't playin', you best be out to win!
Hitting that CALL to DUTY crack pipe
Graduated Army bootcamp with Bronchitis. Shyt was horrible but I did it. If you allow the mental to outlast the physical, 9 times out of 10 you win.
I LOVE this, Jake! I pray that articles like this do not pressure the population into lowering standards (especially for a top tier unit). Like you say, "this is kindergarten" what does someone like this think will happen when their teammates are counting on them to come through to protect their life?? Those communities need to thoroughly vet the applicants, or ultimately more lives will be lost when it matters most. Keep up the great entertaining videos sir!
They are keeping the standard
If you are NOT willing to die over the Trident, DON'T GO.
proud to see you move past the mkay phase. lets scrape more paint bois.
No chance
You sign the paper, you go to the school (whatever it is) you wash out, you go to the fleet undesignated. It ain’t kindergarten, and they don’t hand out participation trophies. Just a retired old bubblehead goat shaking his bald head.
Little kids playing chicken in the real world streets
Never Again Volunteer Yourself.
Not only winners get steak and lobster, the Air Force does too.
Air Force gets it all
What happens if you go in as an officer and don’t make it through SEAL training? Do you have greater say in what you want to do or is it the same toss up as it is for enlisted dudes?
They give you a list of jobs...my young buck that did not make it went to and crushed flight school
I love it!!!!!! Telling it like it is..Jake brings fire ass responses to this one. I am gonna watch this again.
The truth hurts and Mr. Zweig makes it hurt good! Don’t quit and you won’t have to eat corn, the long way.
Long swinging rod of the Navy.
Shiny tip of over-polished brass.
I appreciate you Jake, but I have family members and old friends/classmates/acquaintances who are dead from taking their own lives.
I also know way too many people who have made serious attempts, including a former post-911 SEAL close friend of mine, and an Army PFC who tried to take his life right in front of me, was threatening to slit my throat with the KA-bar in his hand if I either tried to stop him or if I tried calling for help, was also threatening to go after the lives of any first-responders if any were to arrive, and who died in the passenger seat within eyesight of the ER, but ultimately ended up coming back to life somehow and surviving.
Joking about the dude who threw himself off of a building and survived after ringing the bell just isn’t right.
Fair enough
The NYT should consult with Mr. Zweig before publishing any more articles about the Navy SEALS.
They dont want to talk to me
Refusing the covid vaccine was the smartest thing that guy did his whole time in the military. Actually 150 IQ move to get out of the Navy.
Spec Ops can't nor should be mass produced!!
That's what I'm talking about
Watup Jake! Started running 8 weeks ago and ran the Dallas marathon a week ago. I know you say no need to go over 12 miles when training for special operations, but I kinda just had to prove to myself I was capable of enduring some suck! Great video as usual 🔥 Hope your family has a great upcoming Christmas!
WORKING ON FAMILY SURVIVAL
Get after it
I spent time in the fleet and my buddies went to swcc and the teams. They told me that they went to visit me on the boat that there is no way they could do my job. Not that it was hard or really that difficult. Just not the type of guys they were. Lol, my SWCC buddy got in a little trouble and as a punishment they sent his ass to the fleet for a year. Squared him right the fuck away. Instead of the high speed shit, recruiters need to show candidates what actually happens if they quit. The navy as a whole would be better off. You don’t have the disgruntled buds dropouts in the fleet; potentially endangering themselves or others.
Fuck dude you talking about an organization that used to kidnap drunks from the bars
@@jakezweig you got that right. Shit still needs to be put out. Maybe in the prep course. At that point the ink is dry and they aren’t going anywhere.
Current recruiter who put in two seal trainees. If you come in asking what if I don’t pass I tell them don’t even waste your time. The two that contracted came in without doubt and passed the pst with auto qual numbers.
Good strategy.
My recruiters in 2013-14 BS’d me for a year and a half, and at one point I had near, if not auto-qual scores.
They told me that the ONLY way for me to get a SEAL contract would be in bootcamp, and that I first had to go with a different job.
They told me the best job-choice that would allow me to get that SEAL contract would be to choose “aircrew wet”, which they told me the job abbreviation for was AW instead of AIRR.
They told me before choosing aircrew wet, that I would first have to choose “aircrew dry”, which they told me the abbreviation was AD instead of AW.
So I signed an AD contract (aviation machinist mate) thinking that it was an aircrew-dry contract, which would somehow allow me to obtain an aircrew-wet contract, which would somehow allow me to get my SEAL contract in bootcamp.
Once I learned that I made a mistake, I tried to somehow cancel/nullify that contract in multiple different ways. I didn’t know that I could just walk away.
My recruiters told me that if I didn’t show up for my bootcamp date, that the police would come to my house to forcibly bring me in to ship out.
Not only that, but he told me “just say no about that part” on my med-screen regarding past teenage ADD and psych treatment. I checked the no box while at his desk like he told me to, and that directly got my discharged from bootcamp with a “fraudulent enlistment” discharge. 22 days of “service” on my DD214.
AND my recruiters put a 100% incorrect last name on all of my paperwork, and wouldn’t fix it no matter how many times I requested them to fix it. MEPS wouldn’t fix that, as they said it was my recruiter’s job. I even stood up at the moment of truth to try to get it addressed, but the senior chief just yelled me into oblivion and sent me back into the room.
So to this day, my DD214 still has a completely incorrect last name on it.
Never Again Volunteer Yourself.
Karma is a bitch.
Did they make it?
@@jakezweig I don’t know I only heard from one of them once after boot camp and he said he was super busy everyday. Once the my leave boot camp we have no way of checking their status on our end
This is great. I always wondered what happened to the guys that don't make it.
Jimmy Superfly Snuka, LOL LOL LOL
Thank you for your service Jake, I appreciate and respect you sir.
my pleasure .... what do you like the most
@@jakezweig All of the various content that you make on your channel is great. I like the content you make about overcoming obstacles both as a Navy Seal, and prior to that in training at BUDS the most. And how you express the importance of being willing to die for something if you want it with your whole heart, that resignates in a strong way with me.
I like this guy. Doesn't give a fuck and tells it like it is. 💪
10000%
Hey Lt, have you thought about doing a video up with Goggins? I served 2002 to 2006 as a c130 load master before being medically discharged.
You know what man I have not.....that would be an in person deal i don't know if he would let me ride a bike while he ran
“Unlike civilian workers they cannot quit.”
They already quit.
Bro the way you said that Hahahaha
In a way the SEALs brought this shit on themselves with not staying in the dark. Movies and books, you don't see Delta putting themselves out there.
I know a 26 year Ranger and 18D (medic) O-6 Colonel Delta guy.
If you saw him in public, you wouldn’t look twice. By design.
He has a balding, yet long on the sides “mad scientist” looking haircut.
Average height, skinny guy. Soft spoken.
@@internet_internetimpossible to be 26 and be a Colonel lmfao
It's not just BUDS dropouts that have to do laborsome jobs that have nothing to do with what they signed up for. I completed avionics training and I washed planes and worked in the galley almost my hole hitch. This was par for the course for many if not most in the aviation wing. Six year contracts for a chance at SeALs is exploitative. You're doing a good thing by letting these kids know about it, Mr Jake.
Only 7,000 SEALS over the last 80 years? Man, talk about attrition. I read somewhere that for every SEAL there are 300 impostors claiming to have been SEALS.
Of course
I think the actual all-time number is somewhere over 13,000.
Please keep doing article reviews ! They’re perfect !
Will do man
I just don't understand. YOU volunteered to try out, YOU knew or had a guess what was coming. YOU quit. Maybe the SEAL teams should have a, I only quit once team, yeah, that will probably work. While I was never a SEAL. I did belong to a group that had a very vigorous physical and mental training that had about a 50% rate of attrition. I watched people quit that were smarter than me and stronger than me. They quit. I did not. Those that I graduated with, I will take our comradery with me to my grave. Those who quit, I don't remember at all.
Why are you showing off?
@@ABC-dw7pe I am not showing off or bragging about anything. If I am going to risk my life, I don't want a quitter guarding it.
What unit?
Deck Swabbers
2 of my buds instructors quit once and made it through their second time. Even the teams have quitters in them.
People shouldn’t fall for the SEAL hype. You can try
for special operations units in other services with similar washout rates, but if you fail, you can still serve in a combat arms unit getting quality combat training. There is not large Infantry or security police community in the Navy as there is in the Army Marines or Air Force
Preach man preach
Too many naive young kids become addicted to “SEAL-porn” aka the podcasts/books
LMAO, you had me rollin!
Comedy
“One Sailor had a Nursing degree.” 😂😂
I guess there is no resigning to be an Officer? Crazy that he’d throw that away for a pipe dream. I guess he’s a risk taker.
Although I will say if it’s a choice between scraping paint or laying out non skid on the flight deck or hanger bay …. give me the paint scraper 🤷🏾♂️
They are young and don't know what work is or 18 20 hours and sleep and do it again
@@jakezweig I know one thing. I painted a ship during my time in the navy. Never ever doing that again…. It was a damn LHA 🤦🏾♂️fml
Bro it's funny as hell when you say. "We talking about some bullshit right now" lol
Straight out of a comic book
The guys scraping paint are Enlisted. Were do the Officers who quit go? Supply chain or oversee the guys scraping paint?
Fly planes, drive ships,
What's funny is the "writer" thought this was worthy of an article. Where did failed candidates think they were going to go? Home? lol
My favorite line is "The SEAL leadership treated those who left (you mean those who voluntarily quit, nice try though) the course as an afterthought and did little to put them on a meaningful career path". How pathetic is this writer?
You make it to BUD/s, YOU quit...and you would expect SEAL leadership to worry about some guy who quit their program? Yeah, SEAL leadership should sit down with all the quitters and ask "Now Billy, what would you like to do now? Wanna be a Nuke? Ok, off you go"...."Tommy, what would you like to do for a job? Granted, off you go". dafuq? hahaha! smh! SAA on full display is what that is!
If that's all these guys have to complain about is chipping paint and mopping decks, then they have it made. Think about how many people who are homeless without a job and can't eat a hot meal or sleep in a warm bed. Atleast you have a paycheck every 1st and 15th, food, a bed, and saying that you served your country when your time is up, and a G.I. Bill when you get out. And there's a lot more perks to being in the military than there is not joining at all.
Send it man
Bilge tank …. Holy shit! He better find a rate quickly! I remember painting haze gray off the side of the ship with a rope and life vest from WW2. My azz found a rate quick !
Hunt for it
@@jakezweig went in non designed seamen and MA opened up a year later…. Duces !
@@robb_rose dueces
Hey Jake,
Hope all is well. I’ve been on your running program for, about, 5 months now. I run 9 miles every Saturday, as of October, and I’m upping it in February. It’s winter now, and the weather is much, much more harsh. Still, I run in it, irrespective of the conditions(unless there are reports of extreme ice on the sidewalks, then I run inside). However, my times have gone down substantially, from a sold 18:31 run time, back to the 19’s. I’m very dissatisfied. This is mainly because I’m wearing longer pants, with long sleeve shirts, and the extra weight from the clothing makes me overheated quickly. I really don’t mind running in the cold but, when I’m on the treadmill, I can run 2-3x as fast with less the hassle, and still achieve optimal times. I’ll do whatever you ask or tell me to do, but I wanted to know: Is it better for me to run on the mill(achieving my optimal time for my 3 miles), or should I continue running outside, even though my times have gotten worse?
It is why you want to run inside ...I don't like tread mills but if you have to then do it
Jake, I am curious what happens to officers who ring the bell? Love your videos! Thanks for your vidoes.
They’re never allowed back. Applies to all officers who ring out.
They’ll either go back to their previous officer job/specialty, or they’ll get reassigned into a different Officer pipeline for the remainder of their contract/commission.
AKA, they go to the Officer fleet.
PREFECT ANSWER
My father-in-law was a Navy diver in Korea and had the opportunity to be in the first group of BUDS. He said the Navy was a chicken shit outfit back then lol
To funny
Spot on and to the point🤙
Most of that article rings of total bullsh!t💩 as a lot of those supposed incidents lack any logic nor do they make any sense.
Continued success Bro, and may you and yours have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy Healthy & Prosperous New Year🍻
My Best,
RP
Merry Xmas man
There's a old saying goes like this, many are called but a few are chosen especially when it comes to being in Navy SEALs, if I was a Navy Seal warrior, I would do whatever it takes to get it done, death before dishonor in my opinion. The moral of the story is if a guy who is in BUD/S training for Navy SEALs and he quit and rings the bell, then he is a quitter and earned his spots in the Navy scraping paint until he retires from the Navy. Those who quit BUD/S training are soft ass Americans
Send it SAA .....shir happens ....I know a number of kick ass American who did not make who are kicking ass in the army SF
Teams guy say training is easier than the job and if those guys are complaining chipping paint, then they wouldn't have made good seals. Is it true that if you make it through all of seal training, that you can peered out before you graduate?
If you get peered out at that stage, you’ll probably just get rolled to another class.
Unless you have prior rolls/issues from previous classes. Then they’d drop you if you got peered.
Yah but SQT still gets 15%
“Buds duds” is 100% a thing. You should get into touch with the modern navy
Somehow I got unsubscribed to your channel. I have some catching up to do. Good to see you didn’t go away.
Thanks man...youtube is playing with the algorithm
Question: I just contacted a Navy Officer recruiter about going SEALS. I have B.S. in electrical engineering and soon M.S. in materials science & eng. About 3.5 gpa in both. They saw this and asked me if I was interested in their nuclear program. I told them no thanks, SEALS only, but let's say I didn't make cut for SOAS. Would you recommend Army officer or Navy nuclear program?
All depends on what specific profession that YOU want; if you want a profession of combat arms, or a different technical profession like the nuke program.
If you want combat arms, Jake will tell you the same thing: GO ARMY INFANTRY OFFICER.
ARMY OFFICER PERIOD
18 hour days for as long as your in
Hollywood = Armed Forces Recruiter
I wish I could get to go and prove myself
Boy this was spot on fuck the regular navy man lol
How do you know that these things aren’t going on if you’re not an active duty SEAL anymore? I’m not discrediting you at all just wondering because times definitely have changed since you went and unless you’re making trips down to San Diego how would you know what’s going on down there?
You keep so real lol
Do you think it would improve or make attrition rates worse for candidates if they had to do a deployment on a ship first?
Worse 1000000000% you never get to workout on a ship ever.
My algo stopped posting you I’m back now!
Jake so a bud/s drop out doesn't go back to his navy mos?
Only if he previously qualified for a rate (mos) will he go back to it. (Serving in a job prior to going to bud/s)
Otherwise, you’ll get reassigned if you go straight in with an SO contract and quit. The outcome of that reassignment is largely dependent on availability, timing, and ASVAB scores.
Also, if you’re either lucky or good enough to be liked by the people in charge of the reassignment, maybe they’ll help you out. Maybe not.
Yup just what was said
If you’re a low level enlisted guy you’re going to do cranking. Everyone does it. All the crap jobs that have to be done. Even the new officers on a ship can get First or galley for a while. Cranking has always been part of the Navy
Yes sir
shiiiiiit, everybody scraped paint on field day
I have chipped paint
Reps and reps and reps and reps and reps and reps at the O Course one weekend. That old SEAL said to me...”if you knew how great it is to be on the teams, you’d never even think of quitting, no matter how hard it gets” we start the show soon. I’ll keep that in the back of my mind the entire time. Sign that fucking dotted line if you really want to see what it’s like. That’s about as real as it can get.
Fire 🔥 no truer words
Such a risk, you better be damn sure you can make it. 6 years chippin paint etc doing shit jobs in a cramped navy ship sounds like the very definition of hell to me
You can just med sep and get all the benefits plus VA disability and VRE. Ask me how I know lol
Ok you didn't become a SEAL, Go SWCC.
EOD is super difficult too.
Why is NY times trying to stir up hatred for the SEALs
Because it makes them money from ratings.
Clowns 🤡 doing clown shit
Navy Seal is not way to go anymore unfortunately, better off going Airforce Special Warfare or army. Chance at succeeding and having good job just better.
Air force is worst that SEALs ...go ARMY
@@jakezweig i beg to differ. ARMY IS. AIRFORCE SPECIAL WARFARE is no way worse. Explain how Jake? Enlighten me.
@@Justgambleit 300 special operations people in the air force....simple
@@jakezweig how does that make it worse? I’d rather see a small number then in the thousands like SEALS & ARMY SF.
@@Justgambleit were talking about fucking opportunities.....jobs schools opportunities are you in the military?
Weak genes always makes me laugh ~ true story weren’t good enough and that’s ok, few are.
Week genes can be blamed for everything
That vaccine
Great way out for folks who didn’t want to be there anymore.
Everyone will clean toilets, and work the gallery on SUBs, besides officers. From Nukes to MM. Until u get ur dolphins ur a Nub.
Jake, do you need an eye exam? You misread several words and numbers in this article.
Chill out my guy
He never claimed to be the most literate dude in the world. Anyway, the article's trash, so who really cares?
U scraping paint right now?
Jake believes that actions are more important than words.
You snowflakes are never gonna make it through BUDS with poor attention to detail.
Doesn't know what he's talking about.
You’re a paint chipper
You talking about i don't know what I'm talking about?
@@jakezweig yeah