Do they think gamers are suckers? - Optoma UHD30 240Hz HDR gaming projector
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Can Optoma's UHD30 stand in for a gaming monitor? Does 240hz refresh rate look good on a big screen? With HDR 10, 4k and a screen that can be as big as your wall, is it worth it to check out projectors again?
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Haha, this is why I like LTT, they are pretty honest
Except he make weird segues so often that I took it with a grain of salt. He'd have to say more to convey a dislike for the product
Professional youtuber btw!
I love the subtle roast!
Many CZcamsrs promise all kinds of wonders with ear buds like these, so this is really refreshing.
I've got a pair of soundcore ear buds, not this model, and they are good for the price (40 bucks, I think) but that's all and you shouldn't expect any more fron them.
They're clearly a choice of convenience over sound quality (which is pretty much the whole concept of this type of product anyway) but still sound good at that. I like using them when I'm going somewhere by bus or train and don't want to carry a bag to store my oe headphones in when I'm at my destination.
Title: "Do they think gamers are suckers?"
You must be new here
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Yeah I was gonna say there are a plenty of gamers sitting in faux car seats that are terrible for their posture and backs...
Well, there are different levels.
There is the normal sucker who gets fooled to pre-order a video game. To Dennis level. Just unsure why they got some items and how much they spent!?
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Would you like to spend 2k on a computer that does the same thing as your last computer? ha ha ha
“This text looks terrible, like 1080p” me trying to spot the difference on a 720p phone
Lol
Bruh same here
same but with a 5:4 display
Yo.. random question, what's with hime saying "60x4240" at 9:32
Me trying to watch in 240p
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
EA selling the same game with a different title every year: 👀
I thought you meant Call of Duty then remembered that's published by activision.
@@oftankoftan yeah lol i was talking about stuff like madden, and fifa
@-- like what?
@-- well usually they make it better
@-- i swear to god im gonna piss and shit myself if another L/R button breaks on my joycons
"do they think gamers are suckers?"
$70 pillow
Ikr
READ MY MIND LUL
IT'S ALPACA
hahah truth
I had to pause the video and rewind when I saw that: "Surely that wasn't $70 for a throw pillow.... oh.. wait. I could even buy CyberPunk for that. Oh..... wait."
Lynus: the fan is super iritating
Next LTT video: water cooling a gaming projector
DON'T GIVE HIM MORE IDEAS!
The fan on that model is actually very quite compared to other projectors.
Yo.. random question, what's with hime saying "60x4240" at 9:32
@@phourky9522 He is saying instead of using the pixel shift method they use for 4k, which is to move the 1080P image 4 times to create a 4k picture, they just don't shift and now you have 4 1080p images in stead of 1 4k image so you have 60x4=240 hz.
They sold gamers “gaming chairs,” enough said.
my gaming chair is hella comfortable
Na, Secret labs chairs are stupid comfy and the whole office has one.
Gamers spend a lot of time on their ass and want a chair that looks like it can hit a rally stage brah get your head in the game smfh
Ugh my brother just got a gaming chair and it is so uncomfortable. I told him before that good office chairs are way better. He just liked the style better than regular chairs.
Best 'gaming chair' is a barber chair... adjustable footrest, headrest, better cushion, and about the same price.
I use an Optoma with the same UI for settings.
You can adjust keystone FIRST outside of gaming mode, THEN turn gaming mode back on. Kinda silly, but it works.
Oh. shit, it's that simple? nice, good to know
I’m just gonna use this for my future PowerPoint presentations.
Great idea lmao
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To center need a tall room or a "pit" sit in center looking up
"Proof my wife's boyfriend says its my turn on the Xbox"
Q: What did the grape do when it got stepped on?
A: It let out a little wine!
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
Judging by the popularity of "gaming chairs" who wouldn't?
So true. It's just senseless.
Ye, I had the same argument with myself when I questioned why 'gamer' was a style. Like, no, I do not want a spikey graphics card or a rainbow coloured keyboard.
ok but new gaming chairs are literally the only ones available within $150 atleast in the US, go to office depot or some shit and they have plain ass office chairs for 250 - 400 minimum
Yes...
Except I have a tiered desk, ‘gaming’ racing chair, rgb everything and dual 2070 supers just so there can be 2 XD
@@leftcritical7352 Those are better most of the time.
“Do they think gamers are suckers”
You're selling us a 70 buck pillow. Yeah I'm pretty sure we're suckers.
Came here to make this comment. 👌
Lol, even in my country, where everything is expensive a pillow costs like 10 usd
lmao
You're not a sucker for getting quality sleep.
My pillow was $100+
@@Black2KGSR Do you really think that pillow is made for quality sleep?
I remember when I had a 1080 projector as a gaming system screen. It was awesome to have something that huge, but holy hell that thing was like having a few space heaters going at full blast.
Honestly the most shocking thing in the video was the price of the pillow
lol, almost can get a good real CPU with that price
@@andrew_anzhu legit lol
@@andrew_anzhu But you can't sit comfortably on a CPU, especially with its pins facing upwards :)
@@wtfiswiththosehandles that's what I think
@@snowball1792 this guy fucks computer components 👆
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
*KFConsole has entered the chat*
What are you insinuating about the best console going to come out in this timeline?
Bro you spitting mad fire for someone in finger licking range! lol, tbh though, the KFC console, if what they say is true, it would be better than the PS5 and XBOX X and keeps the chicken hot and fresh. Though it would also be much more expensive, but imagine, owning the KFC Console and the XBOX X refrigerator would be pretty Epic NGL.
To be fair though, they somehow did manage to sell gamers on RGB. So, good luck defending gamers too much.
@@ebsolas What's wrong with RGB this just means I can change my color scheme to something else if I feel like it with out buying new fans, or anything with RGB
What can I say, it's finger lickin' good.
Technology is so impressive when you get down to the fine details. That mirror tilting is so crazy!
They're so much NOISE in the image I can almost hear it.
N O I S E
I swear I could hear Linus screeching "gaming" from my phone in my pocket
*THERE IS* 🙄
It's not noise on the image... It is the lights behind linus dimming the picture quality making it look like that. At one point they actually turn lights off and the picture quality improves significantly
@Aaron vandenberg Umm no. You're wrong
"Do you think gamers are suckers?"
Game publishers: Keep releasing unfinish games, gamers keep pre ordering.
Not to mention, the only reason scalpers exist is because people keep buying from them
it's like helping a burglar load your tv into his van
@Billy West Who doesn't? Most people aren't fucking technicians.
overpriced gaming chairs too
@Billy West It's still fucking stupid to say that. Yeah, it might seem obvious to you, but when dealing with expensive hardware, it'd be dumb not to just because "it seems obvious". It gets intimidating when money is on the line, and it's mean of you to call them stupid for looking up a tutorial. Besides, as history has proven, the people who want convenience far outnumber the people who care more about quality. Especially for something like gaming, a hobby that's supposed to be enjoyable. They are the market.
@Billy West You sound very pretentious and far too sure of assets you don't possess. Yeah man, people default to asking more knowledgeable people for help. That's how we as a species succeed. Confidence will get you killed more than it will help, and with an attitude like that, you might have a lot of trouble in your life. I don't see your problem with needing help. Sometimes, it's a good thing to ask people for things, especially when they seem really simple. Like, I make clothing for fun, and there's a suprising amount of things that I never could have realized on my own. I still don't see how the simplification of games is inherently a bad thing. There's a lot of unnecessary complexity to many things. Removing complexity that doesn't add depth is a wholly good thing. I hope you get help with whatever keeps you from depending on others.
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
Microtransactions are profitable. I rest my case.
Funny how people bitch about them, and claim they "have to" buy extra stuff to enjoy the game. It's as if they don't realize they can choose not to pay for that extra BS. Cosmetics, fine, whatever. But weapons, power ups, booster packs, etc.? Fuck that.
@@LordPrometheous That's the thing, from cosmetic to everything else cash shops strip the game of everything that should be included for you to earn. However, I will give props to the games that stay cosmetics-only where none would be necessary for the game anyway. PvP games typically.
@Hallucinogenichusky Sinnerrr! Where's my torch?
@Hallucinogenichusky you are the problem
@@LordPrometheous So... I have to play the inferiour or incomplete version of my 60-80$ AAA game, because I don't want to spend more money? Ok, you are smarter than us, congrats!
It's not like cosmetics weren't free a few years ago and you could unlock them through skill or playtime......
F2P game with cosmetics as microtransactions (for ex PoE), are 110% right and I usually buy enough of them ($ for how much I value the experience) to support the dev for an awesome free game.
Linus:"it has annoyimg fan in it"
Me:"so when can i expect a watercooling this projector video?"
You're expecting a water cooled glass lightbulb? How would that work?
@@Heliocentric that is a good question. Depends on the design. You could also change the fan for a quieter one
@@MaxMichel89 frankly, the issue with this unit is it's a budget model and the fact you do not have keystone adjustments. Which is necessary for placement of a home projector.
@@Heliocentric yeah i know and there are even better ways to correct the picture like 4 corner correction...
@@Heliocentric Keystone correction breaks the picture quality by stretching the pixels so that is something you don't wanna use. If you pay this much for a projector you surely want to install it properly. I use lens shift if it's available but nothing else than that. And with a high contrast screen I'd stay away from that as well and trying to place the projector as close as possible in the centre of the screen.
I have the Optoma HZ39HDR on a 120" Silver Screen Productions screen with my PS5 hooked up to it, works really well at 4k. I don't see any input lag and thoughts happy that I got it.
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
***Advertises 70 DOLLAR PILLOW that looks like a PCB***
I still can't get over the fact that it's 70 FOOKIN DOLLARS
I saw that pillow the other day and thought "damn $20 i might get that" not even realizing it was the little one they have advertised. Thank you for pointing that out
do you not realize that it costs a lot to make a cpu pillow with the print and depth it has?
@@MadeinHell2 it’s probably not produced using slave labor or by exploiting people in poverty so it’s gonna cost more
Ah, but that's different- you can watch movies off of the projector 😜
And in all fairness, the pillow is quite big, isn't it?
Linus: that HDR mode makes a huge difference
CZcams compression: No. We're going to make it look absolutely horrible.
You dropped a "make" there
CZcams needs to fuckin add hdr mode so they can enjoy the difference
@@pvshka Cheers, fixed it
@@MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 CZcams has got HDR, not sure why LMG doesn't upload them with HDR Support.
@@MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 Only realised after creating a PS5 video myself. (PS5 recordings automatically enable HDR if your Monitor/TV is running HDR.
"Do they think Gamers are suckers" I've yet to see anything advertised as "Gaming" or "for Gamers" etc. which doesn't come with a inflated price.
like the cpu pillow?
Have you used any monitors, gpus, mice, keyboard? Like literally any peripheral for gamers is advertised as for gamers. Your generalisation is random and doesn't apply.
@@jyotshak Since when are any of those exclusive to gamers?
If I feel like something isn't worth the price asked for it (aside from medication and so on) then I just won't buy it for that price.
If Gaming is just a hobby and you're not making money from it, then there's no reason to pay inflated prices for "Gaming Monitors", "Gaming Mice", "Gaming Keyboards" etc.
And yes, there are high performance equivalents aimed towards the Business users without obnoxious RGB and what-not.
@@MadIIMike expect some things don't have gaming on their name and are still very price, like mouse pads. Sure it might be high quality, but don't think a 40cmx45cm mouse pad is worth 25€.
Then there are things marked gaming that aren't inflated in price, and in fact seem to be a great price, for example the mice whit a sample rate of 8k samples a second. The only time that kinda mice would ever be usefull is in gaming. It also has I think a few extra buttons over normal and it only costs like 70$,wich seems fare to me do to the technology it uses.
There is a "gaming coffe" brand on my country and it is decently priced, its cheaper than Starbucks so there is that.
(It is still pretty silly marketing)
Thanks for making this - I have an Optoma GT1080 Short throw projector and was considering upgrading - think I'll leave it though as I also have a 120" screen and no issues with the contrast (even without HDR).
Linus: "you need 11 feet"
Me: "hey google, how many meters are 11 feet"
"how much meters"
I think it's 3ish meter
3.3528 meters
Yeah, SI need to become the world wide default
@@spritsfal5088 Wait til you find out that theres more than one way to describe nearly everything. I blame Pomme.
Fun fact: Optoma is the brand of choice for projectors used in arcade games (I'm a Round1 technician)
I have no idea what that means but I’ll try you
@@user-cw3yj8jv1s round 1 is an arcade chain
As someone experienced in projector installation, this video hurts. The reason Optoma sacrifices keystone adjustment for less input lag is because keystone adjustment should be avoided anyway, especially in a home theater setup. (Side fact: Cinema projectors actually don't provide any keystone adjustment because the whole movie industry would never allow it.) Keystone adjustment is a post-process done in the digital domain, which means you are significantly sacrificing the image resolution when using it.
When installing projectors it's expected that the user installs it UPSIDE-DOWN in the ceiling, at the correct height for the height of the screen that is planned. Perhaps Optoma didn't provide enough instructions regarding this but I have a feeling it was rather the LTT guys not RTFM.
Well, sucks to be Optoma i guess.
Shouldn’t there be some way to get keystone to work with some combination of lenses and prisms and stuff?
@@sea_kerman Everything is possible with an unlimited budget. A mechanical/optical keystone correction would probably make the projector 10x more expensive. It would also require a lot more maintenance and calibration.
But yes, it's probably possible.
Ideally you would setup your projector so that you don't need digital keystone adjustment at all. As soon as you turn on keystone you're losing pixels and compressing some parts of the image or stretching other parts. What they really need is lense shift, but you need to upgrade to the optoma UHD50x to get that.
"I can't even afford that pillow "
Yo.. random question, what's with hime saying "60x4240" at 9:32
Its like with buying a CRT nowadays. Everyone puts "retro gaming" in the title and makes the set £100
CRTs are good for melee.
There is always a market for suckers and if your buy a CRT for over $25, I don't feel bad for you.
i got a 10 year old CRT for free at a flea market, the distortion is abysmal but it works!
@@guynumber3100 well there is indeed a legitimate market for CRTs because of their use in the competitive meelee scene but since most people aren't aware of it, they assume they have no value
@@guynumber3100 There are extremely nice CRTs out there that are definitely worth the cost, and CRTs are, in many ways, still the best display technology created. Literal perfect motion handling, excellent black levels, instantaneous input lag, and high refresh rates. Also no fixed pixel grid so any resolution you feed it (that it can support) will display natively. The issues with the technology are more practical in nature (big and heavy, can't be manufactured to large sizes effectively, and the way they refresh can cause headaches for many people).
TL;DR, the dude that spent $600 on his CRT has a better display than you in every metric other than resolution and HDR (and because of how CRTs present pixels, that's a fairly negligible compromise).
Dude...
I thought of shifting frames to create fake extra resolution back when I was watching FMV on the 3DO.
So cool to see someone else think the same thing.
You know you can flip the image in the settings so that you don't have to have it at eye level?
I have this projector on the ceiling and it's very good without any keystone adjustment. Just set it up correctly.
Linus got braces? That explains why his talking was a bit off...
Was searching for this
Maybe Dennis punched him in the mouth for dissing his custom light too much!
he looks ashamed of it, idk why tho
dental plan
@@PeterDanielBerg Lisa needs braces
"are gamers suckers"
Looking at September to now I would say yes lol
So I can think of: people paying out of their ass to buy consoles from scalpers, Cyberpunk 2077 breaking pre order records for a broken fucking game, anything else?
@@adsadam1 AH yes because everyone who pre ordered Cyberpunk already knew how broken it was even though its called PREORDER, WAY before the game ever released. I Pre ordered it on Steam a few months before release, and as soon as it released, I heard of how broken it was, and waited for the first patch to be released before playing. After that I started playing and actually had quite a lot of fun, and didn't experience any game breaking bugs or glitches, and experienced fairly few bugs and glitches in total. All in all, how the hell do you expect people who pre ordered the game to know it wasn't going to be ready yet? Also you forgot the idiots who bought GPUs and CPUs from scalpers as well, as those too got scalped to living hell.
@Qimodis Dont forget cut content. High end graphics card is not gonna fix the ai or bring back the cut content.
@@PilotTed The very concept of preordering is for suckers, and you're a sucker for doing it. It's the epitome of an uninformed purchase decision and allows companies to continually push out broken, unfinished products because suckers happily throw money at unreleased products.
The funniest aspect of your story is that you knew after release that Cyberpunk was broken, and the response was not to refund the game, but to reward CDPR by letting them keep your money.
Giving companies money before a product is released, AND letting companies keep the money even if the product is broken? Gamers are the biggest suckers of all consumers.
@@PilotTed Those idiots bought it even after not know whether it was broken or not. And bugs aren’t even the worst part of the game, the game has way too many cut contents and every step reminds you that something is missing.
So yeah, suckers.
I've always mounted my projector at the height of the top of the screen. No keystone adjustment required, no risk of blocking the picture. But yeah, unless you want a screen bigger than 70", a TV is going to be better for most rooms (light control).
Bro everyone mounts their projector like that. I'm not a fan of this projector but nearly all of his criticisms come from pure ignorance of using projectors. You also lose significant quality with keystone adjustments and they are never meant to be used in a high end setup. Projectors have their weaknesses, like you mentioned, the necessary light control in the room. But none of the weaknesses are having the projector fans audible because it's right next to your head or not being able to sit in the center. You also can get a short throw projector if space is an issue; however, the reason most projectors are long throw is because the average person buying a projector is doing so because they want a bigger seating area that's not really compatible with the size of televisions.
I am into the projector gaming. I love the big immersive screen. I got a tight budget, so I use the Vankyo V630W. It works for me. Not 4K, but I can live with it.
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
*Notices Linus's braces for the first time for no reason what so ever*
this comment is why I came down here.
haha same.
He kinda has a lisp (?) or something when he talks. noticeably different from when he talks without bracers!
they are new right?
@@magneticfish5777 Yeah, I noticed that as well. Right now he sounding a lot like a person who just recently had their tongue pierced.
Day two of asking Linus to make a "learn linux with Anthony" series.
that would be cool
WE NEED THIS!
I would love this series
That would be great!
But also can he be teaching Dennis?
12:09 There's a hair on the left finger.
Bruh🤣
I can't imagine that you'd be able to see low latency with keystone any time soon. Keystone is a digital post processing, and removes pixels to make the adjustment. So you would have more latency and less resolution out of the thing. And I'm not surprised that you can get high refresh rates out of dlps considering how fast the dlp chips move.
Laser projectors are the way of the future. No shifting as they heat up, and they turn on an off at the flick of a switch, plus a heck of a lot better color contrast. And a big protector and a screen is way less than an LED wall any day of the week.
Linus: *reviewing HDR gaming mode*
CZcams: Lmao nah best we can do is compressed 1080p.
So many people miss this. Especially those who watch 4k
on their phones. You just can't fix stupid.
Actually HDR can be played on phones. I can
@@JohnDoe-zb7dz did you know most youtubers don’t choose to render at 4k and hdr even though the option is there just so you know before you call someone out
@@tincan3 dude. This is LTT. All of his videos are 4K hdr
Mine is like: "here is 720p take it or leave it"
"couldn't be arsed" - the most British thing I've ever heard Linus say.
im american and I say it too. "can't be bothered" just doesn't have the same ring to it
I've never heard a British person say that.
@@neondemon5137 you've not met real brits
-from a brit
@@hoti257 why do brits say “oh my days”?
@@hoti257 I've met over a thousand brits.
8:23 look at the gun, that was rainbow effect
I like to think the projector was being sneaky and it only showed rainbow when he wasn't looking
I really loved my AAXA P7 mini projector. It is 1080p and only $370. Plus it is tiny at 5x5x3 inches though it is not short throw either. The input lag was fine over hdmi.
The only problem that I had where I decided to return it is that the only screen size I could get to work at the available position was 60+ inches at an uncomfortable height. It was just way to big for a screen 2 feet away from where my I sit in my chair. The other drawback is that the focus wheel was way too stiff so I could never get text to appear without some blur.
The screen is bright enough even in window lit rooms. Dark games are difficult to play due to the low contrast with blacks and near black colors. (it gets better in a dark room but still can have you running around blind in Diablo 3) It does this for dark movies too but they can still be very watchable.
It might be worth it to do a review because while the te4chnology isn't there yet, it is getting very close.
I love seeing those old transparency projector carts in action! Literal beasts. At one point our district had an elementary school building being consolidated and lots of things were going to auction. All of those type carts were rescued by IT, and either in some form of use or in a secure storage that only we know of ready when we need it.
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
Me who preordered cyberpunk: Huh?
Hopefully you ordered it for PC
The sheep has become sentient! Therefore we will not kill it :)
Will cd project red fully patches all bugs ?????
I pre-ordered Cyberpunk and I enjoyed it. Next to no bugs besides small ones like one random person being invisible. The only thing that was a downer for me is I didn't do many side quests and beat the game VERY fast. like in 12-14 hours.
@@hamzerpanzer It was buggy, but outside of that it ran perfectly fine on PC.
Not a fan of earbuds but I just purchased SoundCore Life Q30's a few weeks ago and I'm loving them so far. The base isn't quite as strong as my HyperX Cloud 2's but are still pretty punchy (the Cloud 2's have 60mm drivers and the Q30's have 40mm drivers so this is to be expected). Battery life is amazing though, I've only charged them once so far and still have around 40% battery. Latency is pretty good though I've not tried to game with them yet. Active noise canceling is pretty decent, I don't have any other noise canceling headphones to compare against but it does a good enough job of drowning out my computer fans. Transparency mode is a bit weird, it seems to amplify higher frequencies so certain things are really loud but it is handy to be able to talk to someone real quick while still playing music in the background or if you're waiting for a timer to go off and want to make sure you hear it. Sound quality overall is pretty good, for those who call themselves audiophiles you may want to look elsewhere as if you are that picky then no pair of bluetooth headphones will ever satisfy you (you should also try to understand the psychological factors that determine what you consider to be good). That said I feel the sound is on par with my Cloud 2's and the freedom of wireless is really nice, I've refrained from going wireless in the past due to short battery life and the myriad problems of bluetooth audio but those don't seem to be an issue here.
*90% of comments:* 🙃
-> "Do they think gamers are suckers?"
-> Example of how we're 1000% suckers.
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
**Looks at people that buy GPU/Consoles from scalpers**
Game as service
But that’s every product though
Linus: Talks at the camera without pausing game
Me: **pain**
Without love? Can you not.. get enough? Do you.. like it rough?
@@John.Codwell Cause I'd rather feel pain than nothing at aaaaalllllllll!
Woo, Three Days Grace!
Pain? I thought it was amusing.
seeing that projector on a cart reminds me of school back in the day for presentations or movie day etc. haha
"Designed from the ground up for all gaming"
My baseball bat says that is a lie.
Hearing Linus’ lisp from his bottom braces are giving me life
lol
Can't unhear it now
Thanks a lot guy...
Mick Tyson tech tips
what's worse is bad jokes or is lesp ?
Never noticed
Now its stuck there
Filpped upside-down and mounted on the ceiling with screen flip turned on, the trapeziod shape actually makes a square image. Not sure if it's why they designed it that way for that reason, but it works.
I worked in at JDS Uniphase making prototypes of DLP projectors. Fun stuff!
“What monitor do you use”
*my wall*
I wouldn't say that to any one tho
I do everything on the 120” I set up in my room and I have said this. Sensitivity feels different but you get used to it.
I have been playing on an Epson Home Cinema 2040 for a good 6 years now. I absolutely love it. And yes. I have said that. Also - I love that moment in shooters where people ask how I saw them. The answer: Your head is the size of a melon. It is hard not to see it.
* changes the wall(gedit?(did you?))paper *
@@waldojim42 mine is an xgimi halo. Sniping, shot guns, and karaoke are all better on my projector though split screening hurts my brain. It’s waay too wide and hard to ignore top or bottom screen.
I’m curious, have you gotten used to this?
Yes, yes we are. We instant-click on every video, even though we were cock-teased about finding out if Dennis went over budget or not
Looks like it could be something good for medium-sized LAN parties and such for streaming gameplay to an audience. Although larger majors ones I'm sure spend more for pro level projectors.
still have my optoma hd20, replaced the bulb and color wheel. dont use it anymore but back in the day when i had my first home, it was awesome. 140 inches plastered on the wall in the basement.
"Do they think gamers are suckers?" - Linus, have you _met_ gamers?
As someone with a projector in my living room, it's pretty typical (and easy) to ceiling mount the projector above where your couch is. with a fairly basic mounting bracket (~$30) I don't need any keystone adjustment either.
I have a projector mounted exactly the same way in my living room, no need to use the keystone adjustment, work perfectly with a ceiling mounted screen.
Snap
That is a light projector. You can use a basic projector Mount and extension rods. Amazon has both and you could build one that lowers it enough. I've seen an auditorium that had one like 10 get down
Wow thx for the metric scales
“Do they think gamers are suckers?”
*Selling $70 pillow* XD
@@jillianangell2570 Haha... it's a gaming pillow!
You can buy an actual CPU for that money
@@emanlio I didn’t know cpus were so cheap
It actually is a nice pillow. Comfy. But price is somewhat irrelevant as its more about supporting Linus.
Bro that pillow has like 5billion threads....show me a cpu with more
Linus: "Do they think gamers are suckers?"
Also Linus: $70 butt pillow.
My Epson HC4100 is badass for both gaming and day to day PC work. I've been using an Epson 3LCD projector for years and they are VERY usable and unless you REALLY need 120hz or 4k they're golden.
I love getting Dell projectors from eBay especially this one seller in California and I actually bought two of them and yeah they got bad deal Peach hips but man they are wonderful to use during the holidays and doing outdoor projection stuff for the kids.
Welcome to... MORE THINGS YOU CAN'T AFFORD !!!
Edit: Most likes I ever got Ty lol
This should be A series
@@krapalis lol yess that would be so cool.
Se- I mean, Tech sells..
Love getting excited and crushed at the same time
Free diamond on 5k subscribe free fire fans support Mr beast❤️
Linus: "Can we turn off the lights?"
Me: " Down in front!"
I have a 4k projector for gaming, it’s pretty amazing.
Takes a lot of fiddling to get the image perfect, on my screen text on desktop is super clear, the whole image is very sharp
Hadn’t known keystone doesn’t work in gaming mode, fortunately for me it’s not an issue but it would have been nice to know beforehand lol
Have a view sonic PX701
I used to have my xbox and ps2 hooked up to a DLP beamer, projecting on the wall. I fixed up the wall's stuco nice and smoothe, with a new coat of white paint. Of course it was only 1024x768. Input lag was never a problem. Star Wars Battlefront II (the original) was great on the beamer.
I've been living that projector life now for about 8 years. I am on my 3rd LED projector, but this unit looks pretty good. It might be my next desktop "monitor".
I’m wondering why you are on your third in 8 years.
Ever try a quality lamp-based model? My last BenQ I used for 8 years then sold it in perfect running operation.
@@paulvail7926 ...because they get better and better and you need to upgrade. Do you not have technolust?
Does anyone remember the last pc AMD build stream when Linus did the limbo and landed on the ethernet cable upside down, lmao.
YES THAT WAS GREAT LMAO
that's Great!!
ayyy lmao
I used to work at a hotel/conference center, in the A/V department, and occasionally (on a slow weekend) would have a room with a 20-foot, rear-projection fast-fold screen. I would bring in my PS2, call in the Convention Services guys, and run a tournament with Rival Schools, or some other fighting game. Really nice when you have the proper mounting for the projector to prevent keystoning AND don't have to worry about blocking the projector. This was like 25 years ago, so it wasn't a really great picture, but it was still freakin' awesome.
Love your take on the BENQ x1300i and the short throw tk700sti....
This freaking comment section:
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
Jesus
It's kind of weird how similar every comment is, like, is it just kids beating a joke to death? I'm lost.
@@frankguy6843 welcome to CZcams comments
And now your just another...
@@ubt__________ It wasn't always like this though, it's the last year or two probably
its dumb man, all quotes
If you have to adjust for the keystone effect in a permanent setup, you're already doing it wrong imo. Its digital processing and it ends up really affecting clarity. I would rather just switch to another projector with a lower screen drop if that's a concern (neck craning can be a real problem).
7:25 You can see rainbow effect there. Thanks Linus, now I can't unsee these.
At 7:17, I was getting Mystery Science Theater vibes. Linus' commentary while watching the gameplay practically cinched it.
Summary: THIS PROJECTOR SUCKS... but the responsiveness tho
But it honestly doesn't he glosses over a lot of stuff I own two they are awesome
@@mikey5969 just ordered one myself, it looks pretty legit. I don't think it's fair to compare it to a gaming monitor, not really apples to apples. I'll be mounting mine in line with the screen and I have a super dark theatre room so I think it will do great.
@@willmercier2852 can confirm that it will do great. I ordered mine right after this video dropped and have had it now for about 2 weeks. It is in a light controlled room with a 100" motorized screen. I have absolutely no complaints with it at all especially for the price. And I was also surprised that there is no rainbow effect like I had with my older 1080p DLP projector. I've only done some light gaming on it but so far so good.
@@ramblinrobertraw You're right! Just installed it yesterday and it's fantastic. The PS5 looks amazing on it. I'm very happy so far. It using it ceiling mounted with manual screen from Elite screens. I've done some gaming just in 4k mode (not "enhanced") and I don't perceive any latency issues. Big improvement over the 1080 projector it replaced.
Dat back flip tho
I've been watching this projector on Amazon for a year and honestly thank you for bringing that point up that you lose keystone ability if you try and use high refresh rate that issue just killed any purchase I would have made on this... I've been wanting this projector for at least 2 years and that main issue just killed anyone want that I had for this projector.. I'll have to wait for the newer model that comes out that has 240 FPS with keystone..
Bought the optoma uhd42 cause my old Benq w1070 needed an upgrade when ps5 came. So far im happy with it.
I game with my ps4 on a random, medium high end ( I think I haven’t really looked into it, it was a gift) and it’s pretty great. I project onto a set of closet doors and I don’t have any complaints. It’s obviously not esports ready, but for basic console gaming, it works great.
Projectors are actually getting very good!!!
?? You should never be using keystone adjustments anyways!! Does no one care about picture quality????
And who would set up a projector system and NOT ceiling mount it anyways?
+1. Never use keystone and it reduces resolution and sharpness.
@@buhidef exactly! I can't believe on LTT I'd ever see Keystone Correction being ever even suggested!
I guess they don't get paid enough for a screen and a 10 dollar ceiling mount.
I always thought keystone adjustments were done optical with shifting the lens, or is it just with more expensive projectors ?
This is amazingly well produced. Thanks.
Just got a used dell 1080p 3d projector, really can't recommend it enough, gaming on a 100" screen its just an experience.
Before this one I had a 720p one, the difference in sharpness alone worth the switch. It was around 600usd FYI.
me: what is this shit?
linus: kill the filming lights
me: oh i get it now.
LTT: Let's "review" a projector
Also LTT: But lets only turn off the lights for less than 20 seconds in the middle of the video, use the admittedly wrong projection surface, and then don't even show bright mode just because it doesn't work with HDR
Might be different for this one but my optoma gaming projector will do keystone and enhanced gaming. You just have to adjust the keystone before you turn on enhanced gaming.
8:35 This made me realize that we truly live in the future (And I was born in 2002, so I grew up with some of this tech).
DLP consumer projectors have been around longer than you’ve been alive.
What isn’t mentioned is that they pack almost 2,000,000 of those mirrors onto a chip that is less than half an inch wide.
"Do they think gamers are suckers?"
If gamers weren't suckers, companies like Activision, EA, Ubisoft, Warner Bros and so many others would be out of business.
We are suckers in that sense, we know damn well what they’re doing. We still purchase the games because sometimes it’s a certain game series I like
Imma tell my teachers they need this for their powerpoint presentations
UHD50X is the same projector for a couple hundred bucks more, and includes to additional lens adjustments. I have the UHD30, and love it. I don;t need Keystone since I have a perfect ceiling mount setup for it.
I know that this kind of videos don't make a lot of views but I think that is the best kind of videos It's informative thank you for making it
"So this is really bad about the product. Just like our sponsor!" *sudden segue to sponsor*
Only Linus can pull of this and still make the sponsor look good.
Segway?
@@ThatPianoNoob Thats the 2 wheeled machine, segue is the correct spelling for this ;)
@Brody Hawes Thats the correct spelling, though
So I've just nailed the UHD35 which is an improved version of this. Given the research and this WTF moment with the keystone\geometry controls, I thought I'd contribute here in case you are thinking of nailing it.
I nearly sent it back because it still has no HV keystone with gaming mode on. However, having done some research I've learnt that I don't really want the keystone adjustments, at least not digital ones, because it will degrade the image. Naturally to get the fast path for gaming, the picture would need to do some processing and buffer to cover the processing time, so it seems at this price point no geometry adjustments exist. Optical ones would be nice, but I haven't found any so far. Lens shift would also solve the issue, but haven't found optical lens shift at this price point, with low input lag. Digital lens shift sounds like it's just eating your vertical resolution and well, you'd have to have keystone as well presumably as the projector is still going to be pointing, well, where the projector is.
So, I don't know as they think we're suckers, I just think that it comes down to cost and understanding that, if you're going to do this, you need to be prepared to position the thing so it's hitting straight on to the wall\projector screen. To that end I am accepting that I'll have to ceiling mount and drop it down a bit. Because the projector is then upside down, it projects bottom up normally and so top down. So the height of your projected image is governed (roughly) by the height a which you mount the projector.
In the UK, the typical ceiling height in a modernish home is 2.4m (~8feet), so I plan to have mine dropped by about 60cm, which means the top of my "screen" is going to be approx. 1.8m (6feet) from the floor. on a 90" screen this gives it a height of ~1.1m (3.5feet) and will be off the floor by ~70cm (2.3feet).
80" is a bit different, but still similar, the screen is smaller of course and so the bottom is a bit higher from the floor, the top is the same. Naturally you could go lower, though it may look increasingly weird, depending on where you're mounting it. For me this is above my office desk (man cave!) so it's not going to be an issue.
Plenty of folks mount TVs above their fireplaces and get along fine. I'm not a fan of this, because I don't fancy looking up all the time, I prefer looking straight ahead, but... if I want a projector with a 80"+ screen and low input lag for gaming, then this is the sacrifice I'm going to have to make and if you CAN make this work in your environment, then you might get along with this projector just fine.
For me, as I am moving next week, I dare not unbox this before then. It's my 1st projector and I'll be hooking it up to my gaming PC and PS5 (latter also still in the box!). So I'll pop back and let you know how it went when I get it up and running and if popping my projector cherry was everything I had hoped.
Btw, I NAILED A PS5 pretty easy by joining the stockinformer website's discord chat. I joined it like last week, got pinged within TWO DAYS on my phone on discord and I order one from Amazon at the regular list price a minute or two later and it came the next day. Please avoid the scalpers and try this if you're after a PS5, XBox or any one of the uber rare items stockinformer has on the list, i.e. GPUs.
Awesome comment, man. Can you give us a detailed update?
i have a uhd50x which offers a bit more flexibility but afaik is identical in other ways to the uhd30. i've been loving my uhd50x since the day it arrived
Hey Linus! You showed my "buyer beware" review on the website about the keystone. I've been projector hunting for a while, and just returned this projector for other reasons. Just an fyi, if you turn OFF the projector after enabling "enhanced gaming mode", and turn it back on, the 4k image is much improved. Optoma is aware but I'm not sure if it's been fixed yet
have you bought a new projector since for your gaming?
“Do they think gamers are suckers?”
*gamer girl bath water was sold out*
Those werent gamers those were simps
@@sugondese1973 not even simps those are slaves
@@zakariamoustaghfir7373 LOL so true
I believe they r called pay pigs.
That’s simps not gamers