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Nick supervising very well back there! Good job nick!
Nick exudes leadership qualities. He deserves a raise and a vacation!
it is a rough job but someone has to do it. We all know Jay will not get off World of Warships otherwise.
ngl... Kinda waited for the PH splash screen "accidentaly" on speakers and Jay turning there as the ending.
This video could have been a cluster f... If Jay had been unsupervised. He might even have gotten cancelled. Nick really is the MVP here
MORE NICK!!!!!!!
I love how Nick is taking a nap on the couch!
Virtually all projectors are designed to project the image with the lens at either the bottom of the screen (table top) or the top of the screen (ceiling mounted). If you place the projector at either of those heights and it’s centered and perpendicular, you don’t need any keystone adjustment. Home theater enthousiasts don’t use any keystone as it degrades the image quality somewhat. Just take some care in projector placement and you’ll be fine with not having any digital image adjustment.
Exactly
yup
And you can get the projector to optically align perfectly. Just takes some time and proper placement. I do it all the time at work.
Video projectors today are easier to calibrate than they were back in the 1980s & 1990s when those projectors needed to align each of the three lenses to display a perfect colour image & they can also be mounted for front & rear projection. It's been a long time since I had a rear projection TV & those things were heavy.
@@stuartlief9614 Yeah, one doesn't even know what the word calibration means, until one has calibrated one those 3 CRT-tube Barco projectors ;)
I just like how Nick is just hanging around waiting for the gaming to start ^^
I just want to mention the camera work in your videos. For example, in this video there was a lot of essentially "talking head" where a static shot would normally be used. However, Phil's very subtle "hand-held" motion and zooms into a closeup of you and back out to more of the room just make the video feel more alive and like I'm in the room listening to you. In the real world, if I were in a room listening to you, I would be making eye contact with you and looking back and forth at the thing you're talking about, and Phil captures that extremely well. And I'm not quite sure how Phil does it, but it's a very smooth and stable hand-held, not the super annoying shakey cam. Anyway, this is something I've noticed and really appreciated about your videos for a little while now and wanted just just mention that I notice it and I appreciate it and I think it makes your videos better. Merry Christmas!
wait wait wait you never thought jay would be talking about a projector made for xbox well you thought wrong cause here it is🤣🤣🤣
Just want to clear something up on theater projectors. You can find 4k but most theaters are only 2k. I've had a couple of my films make into festivals and I have to have DCP (Digital Projection File) file created to playback on the theater projector. I only did a 2k file for my last 2 films because 4k was useless. It was surprising to learn this.
Weird. You’d think something that large would need to be 4K or higher, even with the light scatter. Because you can almost see pixelation at 4K on a 20 foot screen
I bought a projector specifically for Halo CE LAN party's and it was an incredible experience. After the party I remember playing on legendary difficultly and flying through the game. To this date my dream setup was running three projectors on PC with convergence software on an oval screen with Nvidia 3D Vision and as I was waiting for the projector and processing tech to improve Nvidia killed off 3D Vision. This was before Linus demonstrated this on his channel.
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I had 4 super bright 1024x768 projectors in my house that we used for LAN parties back with the original Halo CE in 2001 which ran at 480 resolution. I used to staple thick white sheets over the closet openings in my house to use as backdrops. They worked perfectly and as you mentioned, it was the best LAN party gaming experience I have ever had (even today).
The main use cases that I've seen for gaming on a projector is for video game tournaments. You have a huge screen for the crowd to see the action easily and clearly
FYI Cinema still maxes out at 4k. The projectors are either using a Xenon lamp, which is the majority of equipment installed, or lasers which have been slowly rolling out over the last 4 years. It will be 2025-2026 before the majority of cinemas are 4k laser systems and at least 10 years before anyone might see a wider rollout of anything 8K or above. Even the top of the line IMAX laser system that they partnered with Barco/Cinionic on is only 4K.
very true, but also - there are reasons the resolution matters less in the theater vs a screen (especially film vs game).
@@xBINARYGODxit helps when you're sitting 30 ft from the screen like a cinema
He mistook that 8k and 12k cameras exist so said to himself that cinemas must be too. Maybe there is 1 or 2 that are 8k but that's not the world.
IMAX 70mm (estimated at 18K) would like to have a word with you
@@NavrasNeo Imax 70mm is a film projector (70mm film reel) not a digital projector. IMAX laser is still only 4K.
I remember having 144" projector for 720P back in 2012 playing my Xbox. Epic my friends.
High def baby!
I with you on this one, I had a crappy 720p Epson one as well around the same time. It may not have been the greatest picture quality but playing games on a white wall pretty much floor to ceiling was awesome.
My cousin had one like that but on PS3. We'd go over there and chill and watch cheesy movies and get drunk. Or cheesy anime like Hajime no Ippo, and every time they'd say "Makunouchi", we'd take a drink.
i too, have enjoyed the oversized pixels of a projector on my xbox. cod never looked so pixely
Madden and CoD are awesome!
Back in "the day," I worked for a large corporation's IT department and we did a lot of A/V work. With traditional bulb projectors that are on like 4 to 8 hours a day for presentations and training classes, they go through bulbs like every 6 months to a year; and those bulbs cost around a hundred dollars sometimes. LED has been fantastic for projectors.
120" screen with an Epson LS12000. 4K/120hz. No VRR support, but with a 7900XTX it hasn't been an issue. It has been glorious.
That's crazy! I think my 90" screen is 10ft wide so 120" is ridiculous to me. lol
@@BlackJesus8463 85-90 inches is great for gaming. I am not saying 120 is wrong but personally I find the 85 to be a do it all size that lets you split the difference between media and gaming is great. Also it matters what games you play as well.
I liked how you imagined a 1000in screen and then thought that was too small and referenced a 40ft screen, which is half as large.
He said 1000 inch, not foot.
@@kutark u right, that was a typo on my part, fixed. My comment still stands lol.
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Hey Jay, just wanna say thank you for all your videos and expert information! I just built my first PC and used your insight to help. Thanks again and Merry Christmas!
I have the ViewSonic PX748-4K. I have used it for gaming streaming from my PC but mostly for TV/movies via Apple TV 4K. It'll do 1080p 240hz or 4k60. Looks very good with decently low latency. Can confirm the bulb does take a few minutes to warm up and cool down since it's not LED.
How are the black levels? I know it's probably not amazing but I've always wanted to get an opinion for those lower prices ViewSonic models.
@@justinbeamon6624 They could be better for sure. I think 12000:1 is the spec. When this projector gives up the ghost I’ll likely go for a higher end one.
This is a great topic, I'm interested in this and picking one up for movies and gaming on my PC just never found a video as detailed and informative as this one ! Great choice for a new vid !
perfect for calling friends (something that is becoming increasingly rare) and playing a sports or fighting game.
Nick is waiting for you to draw him like one of your french girls haha
Not a bad product for the price, if only I had the room for it. As the year is coming to a close wanted wish you, Phil and Nick and the whole JTC family a happy holiday season! Best of wishes for 2024!
I like your background design, feels very comfy, sofa feels soft
4K 60 rocks for city builders like Terraformers, certain simulations like Kerbal Space or Flight Sims, strategy titles like Civilization, most types of office work, video editing, 4K youtube, 4K Netflix, etc
You can have just as much fun playing multiplayer 60 fps as anything. It's not perfect but its nice.
@@BlackJesus8463 Yeah it depends on the game and how competitive you are.
It's actually a huge diappointment for the audio out options. Just a single 3.5mm jack and that's it.
What about opitical? What about 5.1 channels, or 7.1 channels? Considering the price, I would've highly expected much more audio out options aside from just a single 3.5mm jack
Back in the 90s, I hooked up a PlayStation to the office projector in the conference room. The image wasn’t great, but playing Teken with 6’ tall characters was freakin awesome!
Merry Christmas, Jay!
I like how Nick is just casually in the background doing various things the entire time. It was amusing/cool (I get that that's their space and Jay is "on the floor" as he put it & nick was purposely playinh something in the background to test the projector more, so yes I know that's why, I'm just saying it is funny to see).
I have been 4k gameing on my benq for years. Its amazing. Its hard sometimes to go from 120” to my 43” pc screen sometimes.
bought a 120hz projector early this year and i love it, has its weaknesses for sure, but i still prefer it most of the time for gaming
Merry Xmas to you Jay, all your relatives and your minions, Phil and Donkey Kongey ❤❤❤❤
Thanks for all the great videos and stuffs this year !
I looked for hours to find a high quality projector screen under 500$ and I finally found the perfect recipe. I forgot the channel name I discovered that showed me the materials needed. But all ya need is polyester fabric and get grey, black, and white material. Then layer them together and stretch them over your frame. Depending on the type of picture you want depends on how you layer the fabric. And the screen is viewable from both sides and in a mildly lit room with a cheap(300$) projector. Definitely worth doing if your into projectors.
On the same note, I decided to pair my Bravia XR A80K, with the Sony HT-S2000 because it had integrated services on the home bar. The option to change things should be integrated with automation. The need for an integration is needed to support the x-box ecosystem and that is always a challenge across platforms or product lines.
I tried the LG Samsung soundbars and the integration wasn’t there.
Is there similar cross platform issues with Gpu AMD, and Intel? That’s something I have been looking at when I build a new system?
This was very cool thanks for covering it!
Gaming on projectors is awesome for certain things. There's no better way to play party games.
I’ve had this thing for some time now and I LOVE IT!
3:02 Nick; "Let the Boss work, I will take my break on the sofa!" love it. LOL
We used to play Halo with 4 splitscreens on a projector with the XBox 360. Linked to another 360 with also for splitscreens on a projector. Pure chaos and fun
Same here it was super fun with Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii.
Great production work. The cinematography, cuts etc are cool. Not sure it works for every subject but for a video like this one I think it makes for a more interesting presentation. Thanks!
I had a mitsu hc1500 dlp projector back in 2009. Shone it on a 120inch screen with my xb 360. Was glorious. Only way to go imo.
Was Nick getting paid for laying on the couch then Jay LOL
I would love to see this tested on a PC tower or laptop! Let us see what it can truly do with powerful hardware =D
I use this on my desktop, works AMAZINGLY well! 1080p at 240, 1440p at 120 and 4k at 60 all with HDR. An easy plug and play, didn’t have to change anything in Nvidia control panel except for changing the resolution.
Nick just casually chilling back there...love it! lol
Allowing the choice of 4k or 240hz is a good choice. Led Is also great for longevity in not having to change a bulb. However, they've never been able to reach quite the same brightness, and that 2000 lumens might not be enough to give you the best image quality. You'd need a fairly dark room to get the full contrast, but then you also have to take into account hdr. My BenQ has 3000 lumens, and while I bought a spare bulb, I havent had to change it out yet.
It might also be worth it to buy a good screen. Even lesser priced screens have 2 layers of black and white to help reflect and prevent it from bleeding out the back.
Projectors have a special niche case for splitscreen and couch coop gaming. it's so much easier to give a good view for 4 people when you're not scrunched up in front of a small screen.
Lol at Nick just chilling on the couch in the background.
Good job Nick! Sitting there and working telepathically through Jay.
Hey Jay, what's the title of the video where you replace an argb header on a mobo please? can't find it :/
Actually, the benefit of an HD projector is you can make the pixels NOT visible by simply having the focus at 90% to 95 % focus, not at 100% focus. The very slight faint 5% or 10% blurriness hides the sharp pixel edges. But you also have to slightly tweak the color settings when doing that because the tiny blurriness causes the RGB to cross each other causing a very barely noticeable shift of colors and brightness. You just have to slightly change the tint and darken the brightness just a very tiny bit to restore the intended colors and brightness. That is why an out of focus projector image at a theater makes the image look washed out. It's the colors lights crossing each other.
Some careful position calibration happening on the couch
"An order of magnitude of half" LMAO
Literally came to comments to see if nobody else noticed it, lol.
This is the 3T Gaming Comment Pro™. It features all of the nits and very wow fps with so much Dolby Atmos super-sonic silence.
I remember running Halo on the massive school project. Playing on a movie theater size screen is just a different experience.
nice!
Having nick chilling in the background is under rated! Took a very informative video about a product but set the mood to be like you are chilling in the same room added a sense of immersion that I never knew I needed!
I have an Epson home cinema projector, and it does have a "game" mode and you lose several features including digital keystone, but thankfully it has a manual keystone dial right next to the zoom and sharpness dials.
I would like extra HDMI port just for eArc support especially thought on sound bar as you mentioned like Sonos Beam. That would be better offer for the price since it's high.
When it says it will support 4K with 60Hz and not up to 120Hz, it has HDMI 2.0. I would like it to be HDMI 2.1 that would also be better offer for the price.
Not interested in projector at home, but just an thought when I looked on this projector I/O.
Liked for Nick chilling in the background.
3:05 nick Says "draw me like one of your french girls"
Hello I watched some of your videos and i found out you know some stuff about pcs and i have a problem when I play games at high grafiks because my gpu gets to 75 degrees celcius and its a 4070ti i have it since august last year and all my fans are clean and it still is overheating
The JVC projectors can do 4k 120hz or 1080p 240hz
The JVC Nz9 and JVC NZ8 can also do 8k 60
but how much do they cost?
@@tjflashtony yup and can do the 4k 120/1080p240. The 240 is experimental atm iirc
@@lyianx more than this pile of garbage. Plus can actually be used as a good HT projector unlike this.
00:22:05 Yeah you are indeed not going to experience Netflix in 4k on a PC but that's because Netflix doesn't support anything above 1080p on almost all browsers, don't even know if there is one that does, the desktop app maybe does but not so sure about that either
How does this work as a DLNA server. Like if I have a video downloaded, or a recording of a video, how does that work with the device? Can I send it to the device and have it work without issues?
When the lag with keystone correction gets greatly reduced/eliminated. This is an easy a must have purchase. As Jay stated when fast mode is enabled it dose look like a monitor that is slanted. I also have a product request could an OLED projector be made similar to how LCD projectors are made. Or bring this technology to laser projection.
I use my 100" short through 4k tri-laser projector for my switch, it somehow still looks glorious playing Tears of the Kingdom..(though I tend to use a 48" OLED mostly and leave the project for the missus to watch tv).
i love how people are probably asking in all the videos "wheres nick?!?" Jay said: You want Nick!?! I'LL GIVE YOU NICK!!!!
I used to work at a cinemark. The xenon gas lightbulbs we used on out projectors are the size of the xbox series x. We were forced to wear protective equipment when changing them after 1000 hours of usage.
They should made buttons on the remote to switch the resolution. Think that would have made it nice.
I’d consider it if it were brighter (higher lumens) because I don’t have a home theater that I can make super dark during the day. I have 1080p projector that maxes out at 60hz, but it’s 5,000 lumens. I can see the image even if the curtains are open during the day. The switching between 4K/1440/1080p doesn’t bother me. I’ll leave it set up for gaming almost always, and I don’t mind the settings menu dance.
nick in the back ground doing poses lol
i still remember back in highschool when someone brought their xbox 360 and we all started playing halo and cod on the last few days of school
it was pretty fun back then but i bet this would be even better (probably even better than my tcl 50" 4k60 hdr10 roku tv)
A cool option for a projector. I love that its an LED.
Was Phil painting Nic like a new age French girl?
I actually HAD to buy a projector because I couldn't buy a TV in Japan and bring it back home to my country after two years, while a small, relatively cheap projector was portable enough, and kinda cool. I literally DID just use an ironed bedsheet pinned to my wall, and it worked GREAT with my Xbox One X when I used the black-out curtains in my room. I mainly play single-player games, but ancient Greece and Egypt (Assassin's Creed) looked AMAZING projected onto a wall! If I had the space and budget, I would definitely consider a projector for gaming again, so absolutely recommend people with the space and budget to at least try it!♥️👍
Reminding me of all the hours I spent playing World of Tanks and Minecraft on my old projector pointed across our landing. Good times
Also, as I'm watching the video, with the issue of fast mode dropping functions. All of those function, warp, keystone etc, need processing time. Even on the "big boy" projectors that cost ten of thousands of dollars, we still have some latency with those options turned on. Not mention the moment you turn those on and use them, you are losing resolution. I haven't come across a projector that doesn't add latency once warp, keystone, digital zoom etc is turned on. (25 years of being a live event/ broadcast video engineer) So to expect that in a $1600 home projector is kinda asking a lot.
I remember being at a party years ago where they used a projector to play Wii sports games on the wall. Kinda have wanted one ever since.
Projectors usually work best in a room with enough space to do it justice, eg cinema room, the price would suggest it’d be of more interest to someone with greater means, or decent disposable income.
Having to manually fanny about with the 4K switch would get old pretty quick but if you did want to make use of the different refresh rates for different sources, I suppose you’d put up with it. Should have auto detect though.
Looks like it’d be ideal for party games, but I don’t have room for that in my man cave. Or any friends I’d care to let in there… 😂
It's not even that bad. I mean if you're used to loading screens you can take the time to scratch your butt or something.
Just nick chilling on his phone in the background changing positions everytime it cuts.
This seems like a great idea, great for a games room. Wish nore modern games made use of couch co op.
Be interested to see this compared to similar priced models that arent gamming branded.
They should release a white and blue accent version for ps5 and would blend in with ceillings better.
Most people on xbox are probably doing the 4k 60 anyway. Noce they offer the 2k 120 for series s.
I'd love to see videos on TV HDMI-CEC. I've had so many problems with my LG tvs and am ready to get rid of them.
Hearing that FH5 is capped at 60hz on console is wild, I've been playing at 165 with frame gen and it's out of this world
Is this a standard throw( min of 8' distance) or short throw?
Would be cool for dual input like the large monitors have. One half the wall is my pc the other my partners pc.
I mean, unless you go for the newer style, Ultra Low Throw 4K Laser projectors, which save on space.
I have an older one. Acer. Not happy with the resolution (720p) Looking to upgrade. For me tvs have got to big to move. I like the portability.
Ls11000 and ls12000 from epson can do 4k 120hz, laser illumination, hdr and crazy high lumen levels for all colors.
I went from a budget 4k Optoma, to a higher end benq ht5550 and finally landed on the ls12000.
3090ti, series x and ps5 look and play incredible with the ls12000.
It's costly, but I would love a comparison gaming at 4k 120z on a monitor/TV vs an equivalent projector.
Hi Jay,
Quick question in a field you may not be as good in as pc's. The PS5 box says 4k @ 120fps (doesnt state if thats native or quality settings etc)and also 8k. Is this an out and out lie or would the system be capable of either or both?
Cheers
My son built his own 12.5 foot highly reflective screen on one end of the basement. It's a masterpiece. He uses an overhead projector, I'll show him this one.
anyone know what game nick was playing from 8:00 ? from the UI it looks like forza horizon, but with the snow when he first starts playing it makes me think it's not FH5 as there's no snow there
I have a 150€ blitzwolf projector for movies in my backyard. It's 1080p and hooked up with the cheapest 5.1 souround system I could find( another 150€)We are having a blast using it with only 300€. You don't have to over spend to have fun and enjoy an almost cinema level movie experience.
Thank you for including Nick in the background!
The input latency for this is different for each resolution. With gaming mode on at 4k it’s 16 milliseconds which is not noticeable at all. You only start to notice latency at 17 or higher. For 1440p 120 it’s 12 milliseconds, and 1080p 240 it’s 8 milliseconds. All resolutions and frames rates on gaming mode have great latency performance. With gaming mode off I’m not sure of the exact numbers but it didn’t seem so different at all.
My assessments in no particular order:
- I don't mind the readjustments when switching from sources. That's a source limitation
- Remote can be magnetically stored on top and sides of projector
- Flat surface height adjustment changed to scroll wheel foot
- 2-part dust cover for rear I/O for protection, access, and aesthetics.
- Backlit controls on projector.
- Support for a wide variety of wireless, low latency HDMI devices.
Is it short throw? Could be great for golf sims
i'm building a homecinema for movies and ps5.. whats the best projector for having both? money doesnt matter. just want a crisp image and also have a nice experience on ps5.. i dont play shooter on ps5 btw.. thats my pc is for ;)
Nice "guy on the couch" (half baked movie) 😂😂
My wife just bought me a cheap projector off Amazon and it’s actually not bad I was playing some older CoD’s and fall guys just to see what it’d be like and it’s not bad. So this was perfect timing because I was wondering if there was a projector for gaming!
check the acer gd711 i got one and its pretty dope
Yeah! Some of these cheap projectors look great on a white wall in a dark room. I think I saw one for $70 thats way too good for its price.
@@BlackJesus8463she spent 99$ on this one. It’s 1080p at 60hz. I figured it would be awful but I’m actually really impressed. Clearly down the road I’d like to go with something that’s higher in quality. But for getting my feet wet this one works perfect!
Love the channel man! I just built myself recently a brand new Pc! I went from a prebuilt Ryzen 5 3600 with a gtx 1660 super to a custom one. Ryzen 7 7700x, aorus b650m Elite Ax, g-skill trident z5 6000mhz, Gigabyte 4070 Windforce oc, 360mm Link AIO from corsair, 3tb of storage, Psu 850 gold and the case is a Sama Ar01 black. I'd love to know your thoughts on it! Either way keep what you're doing! It also lets me get more knowledge about Pc's and more! 😎🤘
Nick in the back of the shot......on Jay's casting couch!!!!😂
would be cool st see this run with a switch for the lols
Nick back there just chilling.
Happen to try it out with a dedicated PC/PS5? Just a curiosity thing on my part
Remember if you're running through a receiver/processor, the video section of that must also support the resolution and refresh rates you're desiring from the projector (or any display). HDMI will always default to the lowest common denominator.
Jay I like you are not a video projection enthusiast until it comes to having a device that can easily be transported from local to location. Would not have one in my home unless I had a media room just for watching content. So I am very much a large flat panel display type of person.
Then I would look at highest rear screen solution I could find as working for Photo & Sound Company in its day we installed a great number of these solutions for media presentations. In the rental part of the company we had a GE Talaria video projector know as the "Lightvalue" that was used in high end convention style presentations in its day. This was well before LED solutions. In fact we had an employee whose main job was to travel the nation with this device, along with a high-end audio speaker solution. The speaker solution was such that you would not have the delay issue in the large convention halls, Use to love the staying about this system "Your eyes will water before your ears bleed" when it came to cranking up the volume.