Ultimate GAMING Projector Comparison - BENQ X500i, X3100i, ViewSonic LX700-4K, X2-4K, Epson LS11000
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- DLP Projectors are the fastest displays on the market with support for 240hz refresh, 4.2ms input lag, and instant GtG response time. Which one is the best in 2024?
Best Overall - BENQ X500i
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Runner Up - ViewSonic X2-4K
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Best All Around - Nexigo Aurora Pro
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Formovie Fresnel 100" UST ALR Screen:
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Bright on a Budget - ViewSonic LX700-4K
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BENQ Flagship - X3100i
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Home Theater Focused - Epson LS11000
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00:00 Introduction
00:33 Price and Brightness & Contrast Testing
05:01 Input Lag Measurements
07:01 Blur Busters Testing Motion Blur
08:38 Why DLP beats LCD
10:27 Pursuit Camera Testing
12:27 In Game Testing - PC and XBOX
14:54 Side by Side Image Quality Testing
19:29 The Bad Stuff - Noise and MEMC
21:27 Speaker Quality
21:42 Throw Distance, Zoom, and Lens Shift
22:05 Conclusions - Věda a technologie
WOW was wondering if you were going to do a gaming projector review and .... You KILLED it! Thank you, I feel like this video simply explains which projectors are good for my scenarios and my budget!
Ludicrously thorough - and on relevant topics. *Thee* gold standard for not just tech reviews, but all reviews. Kudos!
These brightness claims are basically worthless... Luckily people like you properly test them!
Especially it's the contrast where it's at... The ANSI contrast test(black and white checkerboard) usually slaughters projectors, you won't find models that have above 1000:1 contrast
They always have been for basically any consumer product, but projectors are an extreme example.
Incredible. Just incredible. Amazing work. I was waiting for the gaming projectors comparison before buying. Thank you so much.
Wow, that was truly in depth, you really know your stuff. Ive been into projectors for decades, and always knew how good dlps were, but still didn't know all the nooks and crannies etc e.g. the difference between a 0.65 inch chip and 0.45 chip... Great video. 💪👌👍
Nice work as always! I was waiting for this one to drop as I've been checking out the X1 and X2 4K and saw that you were going to do the shootout when you mentioned it over on AVS Forum. Looks like I'll be getting the BenQ i500 or X2!
Both great choices to be honest.
Another really great video! Much appreciated as always.
I was wondering if the X500i did have the .65" chip, but that was part of the press releases, so I will have to try to store that away and ensure I remember it. Good to hear how well the X500i holds up in this shootout. The 2150ST for years was a solid model, and the X500i is LONG overdue as a short throw gaming model from them. Great to hear it does so well.
The dude made me so interested about projectors. Well i bought a cheap ass one but will plan to buy a UST projector one day. Surely will be tuning out for future products from his reviews
What a piece of review! Thanks.
I'm glad I've found your channel. Do you have any thoughts on the Topben K8 projector?
Mate, You have no idea how much i appreciate you for uploading these types of detailed content and more so for uploading these today. Was literally going to pull the trigger on the x3100i. Though still confused as the x500i has the smaller 0.47 Chip inside
Pretty sure the X500i is the 0.65" chip. I haven't ever seen a 0.47" chip with 1500:1 native contrast.
@@TheHookUp Thanks. for use together with a monitor samsung g9 would the x3100i be better to match brightness?
Same! I was just about to get the x3100i, instead of hisense c1 because it's much brighter and I would like to use it outside in the evening. not sure what to do now :))
Thank you for these reviews, it is serious dedication of time, and effort on your part!!!
I decided 4k is great, but because of the distance, and my living room setup that I cannot switch to a higher end setup, because I cannot tell the difference!
Especially with plain off white walls to just stick with 1080p for the budget price and quality of the PJ40.
But, I have seen your earlier videos about flex seal paint ect… but would love to see an updated review of screen paint, because I have seen many new screen paints on the market!!!
I am interested in purchasing this paint primarily for daytime use. It seems from other reviews to really make a daytime difference.
(Side note: I was lead to use a short throw projector versus Ultra Short throw because of my fireplace blocking location of projector placement.)
Btw, Speakers have not been important to me, because I use a 7.2 Channel surround, but I would love to see a review video for ease of use for Bluetooth setups because I am interested in the cordless functionality.
I would like to see this because The Bluetooth marketing is very confusing! Bluetooth 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 ect…..
Also, I would like to compare how easy the setup process would be for the Bluetooth setup would be for some of your favorite projectors.
Ontop of this I found the marketing for WiFi especially in the budget projector market to make some big big claims, WiFi 6 ect….I know there also WiFi speaker setups so this is also very confusing.
Looking forward to see how you might review this the future!
Projector screen paint is on my short list of videos to make this summer.
@@TheHookUp awesome look forward to it!
It was a great video.
I am Japanese and was looking for a detailed comparison video of projectors but could not find one, and when I was having trouble I came across this video. It is a very detailed and easy to understand video. Thank you very much.
After watching some of your videos, I am thinking of buying x2-4k or mars pro.
I also want to play games on the projector. So I have a question: the mars pro has a game mode, but is the delay actually so bad that it interferes with play?
Also, the x2-4k seems great with less latency, but is it inferior in terms of image beauty?
I am not sure whether to prioritize the delay or the image. Which would you recommend?
That is a great comparision.. WIsh we had P2000UST from Nomvdic also to see how it goes against nexigo aurora pro.. Great vid Mate
I compared the Aurora Pro and P2000 in my last UST review: czcams.com/video/Ef0tNjGDoOU/video.html
Great comparison as always! I like the Benq x500i for its short throw distance but I'm not really a gamer. What are other good short throw distance options? I think that short throw distance comparison could be a good video (not ultra short, just short)
Great video, thanks
Are you gonna do another UST Screen comparison sometime in the near future?
Yes, probably all Fresnel screens though.
@@TheHookUp Hi❣ Please, if I ask for your help in choosing the appropriate projector, will you help me or are you unable to do so due to other matters related to you? I apologize for disturbing you
Another great review. Any chance to round up HDR capable projectors aimed for home cinema usage?
HDR kind of sucks on projectors. Dolby Vision and HDR10+ are much better implementations. Have you watched this video? czcams.com/video/NCfnwnLk8Yo/video.html
You gained a new follower😊😊
3D support is so important for projectors, I'm glad you mentioned that near the 23-min mark. It's one of the major reasons to get one, otherwise a TV is usually best
Have you tested projector stacking, where you use two projectors to produce the image? always wondered how two cheaper projectors compared to a higher priced projector. It may not be worth the hassle to line the two images up but its something i've always wanted to see. like two Paris Rhone 4ks vs a C1 or formovie X5 or Horizon pro.
Definitely not worth the hassle.
pls do add benq x300g to the comparison as well. i'm confused which model to choose benq x500i and x300g.
Fantastic video as always. I would be curious as to what you think about the X500i vs the Nomvadic P1000 and Benq 4550i. I personally found the 4550is raised blacks to be a little distracting and it had a rainbow look when playing games in 1080p 120hz. Not 4k though. Im more curious just about your take from an overall picture quality stand point though and contrast between the three. Sorry as I know you have tons of comments and questions.
X500i is definitely the best of those three in my opinion. When I tested the HT4550i I didn't find the dynamic eco mode particularly usable because it made abrupt and noticeable laser power changes, but I guess it's possible they've updated that with firmware. The X500i was much better in that regard and the dynamic black mode was very good. P1000 is probably the worst of the 3.
@@TheHookUp Thank you. I also had the same experience with Eco mode on the 4550i. I spent so much time switching back and forth with it and normal. I desperately wanted Eco to work because of the improved blacks but there were just too many things I didn't like about it for the price. I've bought 6 projectors from your recommendations. You sold me on this one. I'll use the link again as always to show support.
@@TheHookUp i made a comment with these question and these helped mw a lot
Hi thanks for the great video it led to me purchasing the X500i. Just a question when you mention dynamic black mode how is that enabled? Or is it just enabled when the light setting is set to dynamic and not eco? Many thanks !
Yes, light setting to dynamic
@@TheHookUp thank you
I have a Nvidia Shield TV Pro and a older gaming PC for streaming and MKV movies. I game on Xbox series X. Is the BenQ still the top choice over the X2 if you don't use the built-in streaming dongle?
Yes.
It was such a good review.
Please analyze the newly released LG Cinebeam Cube in detail.
LG says that Cinebeam Cube has a very high DCI-P3, and I wonder if that is true.
I don't doubt the color space claims, it's a tri-laser light source, so it should have almost 100% DCI-P3 coverage.
Can you do a review of the new Dangbei Mars 2 that’s out now? Also curious if you could research and do a video on streamers etc that do tone mapping or even the HDFury to force Dolby vision(LLDV) keep up the stellar videos, you rock!
The noise from thr pixel shifting motor was a deal breaker for me when purchasing a 4k projector 4 years ago. The humming noise is just rediculous! Im surprised this issue hasnt been weeded out yet. I purchased an 72" Tv instead. Going to wait on the 4k projector untill they remedy the awful noise. Fantastic Review, very Informative!
@thehookup have you or wiill you review the “Xming Episode One Google TV Projector? Thanks!
Been looking forward to this video for a week since I saw your post on Reddit.
Really hoping the Viewsonic LX700-4K holds up. It looks sooo promising on paper. I'm sure your super in depth great videos will tell me all I need to know though. :D
Im using one and its working great for me. One important thing for me is it was basically the only 4K Laser Gaming projector with eARC at its price point. I looked at the X2-4K and it really seemed like it performed better and has a lot of nicer options like a nice remote and built in wifi and internal power supply, but I needed eARC and the X2-4K does not have it. And I really needed standard throw not short throw.
@@jason3fc I'm in kind of the same boat with needing standard throw and not short throw.
0.95 to 1.05 really.
But that's good to hear that it works great. I've heard so much about it being very faulty at the moment. Having faulty HDR implementation that is stuck on. That kind of thing. Seen people in forms say they have had it replaced twice already. So kinda put me off. But at least some people are having a good experience.
I don't really know what eARC is or why that's so important though?
@@jason3fc One question I have is the brightness varies so much depending on what mode you use.
2734lm in bright mode
1784lm in movie mode
1988lm in game mode
But can you still do 1440p 120Hz in the bright mode? Or would you even want to? are the colours terrible? is input lag noticeably worse?
I don't have much bad to say about the LX700-4K other than the fact that the dynamic black mode is unwatchable so the 5000:1 contrast ratios that some reviewers are reporting is not usable. Overall the color accuracy wasn't as bad as some people are complaining about and I didn't have any issues with HDR, though I'd still recommend turning off HDR at the source since SDR will look better on a single laser projector.
@@HoneyTwee I havent had any issues with HDR going off and on, it seems to work fine, though most non-gaming sources I am using is Apple TV. eARC is so I can route sound back out directly to my Soundbar/Sonos system which requires HDMI input. Also I watch and play in a mostly darkened room so don't really have many concerns about brightness, but its brighter than my previous Optoma UHD 55.
Can you review the optoma uhz66
really interesting and thorough. damn I wish the x500i had a long throw equivalent.
Did you notice any short throw artifacts with the BenQ/Viewsonic short throw projectors? Focus uniformity (can't get all 4 corners and middle focused) and/or barrel distortion? (sides of picture slightly curved?)
Nope, the short throws were nice and sharp. As long as you can set your projector up to use without keystone and you're projecting onto a a screen without waves you will not notice any significant differences based on throw ratio.
Great review and comparison video. I was waiting with anticipation for your review of the BenQ X500i, thank you. I appreciate it very much. I noticed a kind of green tint towards the end of the video on the golfer and I guess the overall image. Is there any reason for this and could be a negative with the x500i?
That was in "Bright" picture mode, there is definitely a green tint in "Bright". The movie and game modes are significantly more color accurate.
Thank you for the informative reply. I was really worried that this projector would have a persistent green tent over pretty much every image. I heard that it’s common for projectors that use a color wheel to suffer from this issue.
Pretty much all RGB projectors will green shift when set to their brightest mode, that's because green is the brightest of all of the individual colors, so if you turn all the colors to max the green will be oversaturated.
@@TheHookUp was this present on the x3100i ?
@@Luca.Caligariyes, as I said. The “Bright” picture mode is almost always green shifted.
All my life using internet this is the best review ever!
Which Xbox were you using for the test? I haven't played with too much of the picture settings on the Series X, but I'm curious if it's better processing would change the results.
Both XBOX series support the same output refresh rates and resolutions, but the X can render games at higher quality. This was on an X.
@TheHookUp awesome, thanks for the review, I'm looking for this exact thing for our game room
Love your videos and the fact that you are the ONLY one on youtube talking about black levels on projectors, which is a mystery to me. I was almost buying the x500i in realtime watching this, if it wasnt a short throw I probably would. Been looking forever after a long throw projector with great blacks, picture quality and decent input lag, do you know one?? Is there a long throw with the same chip? THANKS from sweden.
The Viewsonic X1-4K is the only one I know of that has similar stats but I've never personally tested it.
Wait for the new lx 700 4k ultra
I ended up buying a high end Sony vw325es second hand for about the same price as x500i. Another kind of beast but wow it has great picture quality, it beats Oled in my opinion!@@gneroooooo
The LX-700 looks like the best bang for the bucks. I need a bit of vertical lens shift and a bright projector for some daylight football content
What do you think about benq w5800? Is it better than w4000i (4550)? I am stuck between sony 5000es (degradation problems) epson 12000 (reliable and does everything maybe not at best) and w5800. Your help will be appreciated 😊
Do you have any plans to test projectors for golf simulators?
I don't think there's enough interest to warrant that, but here are the cliffs notes:
1) Short throw is preferable for not casting shadows onto your impact screen.
2) Contrast and black floor do not matter since you'll be using them in a room with high ambient light (so you can see the golf ball).
3) Brightness and color do matter.
4) 1080p and WUXGA are good budget options, the 4K resolution upgrade is marginal since impact screens generally have heavy texture that will prevent the 4K clarity.
5) Most people will end up with DLP projectors, but if you want to use a rear mounted swing camera you should opt for a 3LCD option (usually from Epson or Panasonic) instead because your swing camera will show all the rainbows from the DLP.
I've used a bunch of projectors in my sim. I currently have a BENQ LK936ST that I bought for two main reasons:
1) It's designed to be extra dust proof and temperature tolerant, which is important since my sim is in my garage.
2) I use a nearly 1:1 aspect ratio, so with a 1080p projector (BENQ 671ST) I was losing a significant amount of resolution to the strange aspect ratio.
Can you tell me which screen you used for the X500i testing?
The dual pull down screens are these ones from AKIA: amzn.to/4dvZtzQ
When tested vs the Nexigo the Nexigo was on the Formovie Fresnel 100" and the X500i was on this 100" fixed frame from Silver Ticket: amzn.to/4bfXSN1
help me please, how do you stack nomvadic p100 vs the benq x500i........ im really interested in one of those 2
Benq500 seems great but not really into gaming. Any short throw alternative?
Amazing work!
I just really wanted the Benq HT4550i in this test. Im really torn between that and the X3100i.
Both were in my choices to buy .. I went with the x3100i because my movie room is my game room and the 4550i doesn’t come close with input lag to the x3100
4550i and X3100i are very similar in terms of gaming performance and overall performance. HT4550i gets you horizontal lens shift in addition to vertical but costs $500 more.
In my country the HT4550i are the cheaper one. How about the noise level?
Thank you for this thorough review, and all the other great reviews you did so far! But after watching all of them, i cant really decide between the Dangbei mars pro (1250€) or the Viewsonic X1-4k at 50€ more. Which projector would you get for a home cinema usecase, or do you have any other even better recommendation for under 1500€, preferably no short throw projector? (Sorry i am kinda new to the whole home cinema topic 😅) Thanks in regard 😀
If you'll be watching mostly 24p content and gaming in a light controlled room you should go with the X1-4K, but be aware that it doesn't have MEMC so if you like motion smoothing you should go with the Dangbei instead.
@@TheHookUp I see, thanks for quick your answer 😀! I think ill go with the dangbei, ive never tried MEMC, but i think its also a bit brighter, and id like to have some dimmed light on if possible. On the other hand, i really like a bit more colorful and contrasty picture, where the X1-4K is better at (From what ive read at least :)). If you have any other recommendation under 1500€ ill be really greatful (I dont care about anything else except a good picture - and no short throw if possible 😅). Anyway, you have helped me a lot on narrowing down my choises, and i really love that you test the accurate values of the projectors by yourself, keep it up 😁!
Mars pro actually has a bit more "vibrant" color than the X1 but X1 has better contrast.
@@TheHookUp Thanks for all the answers, appreciate it 😀
can we get a comparison about xgimi or vidda vs benq or epson. I'm strogiling with xgimi RS 10 Ultra CE and Epson TW 7400 and vidda c2u.
Thanks for insightfull and thorough review. What are your thoughts on how the x500i compares to the hisense c1 for movie watching?
I actually did a side by side but didn't include it in the video. The X500i is MUCH more color accurate if that's something you're interested in. The C1 is much more vibrant and punchy, but not necessarily true to the source video.
@@TheHookUp Hi Robert, I was wondering if there's any place to see the side-by-side comparison between the X500I and the C1, I have the same dilemma and it would definitely help :)
@@TheBumbelo The C1 is a little more red shifted in this video than in real life due to the tri-laser. I usually do an eye-match using my calibrated monitor during testing, but didn't do that for this clip: czcams.com/video/qQ5j7R9nQdc/video.html
@@TheHookUp Thank you, you're the best!
@@TheHookUp I actually think I'll go for X500i, I think the short-throw is a the deal-breaker to me as I have around 100 inches from mount to wall in my bedroom and the quality seem pretty much on-par between the two :)
hey youre my guy ..when do you think youll get youre hands on xgimi horizon max i have a formovie x5 love it but if xgimi is way better ill get that the max
I'll definitely have a review and comparison of the Horizon Max when it is ready for global release. No exact date for that yet though.
The x500i arrives tomorrow based on your review. You have never let me down. Any suggestions for best picture settings on presets? Normal mode for SDR? HDR10 for HDR? And do you recommend ECO or dynamic to help contrast/black levels? Thanks as always for the amazing content.
Dynamic black, cinema mode.
@@TheHookUp Thank you! Appreciate you as always. I know it's not easy going through all these comments
Man, I would love to go with the X500i but that throw distance is just too short for me :/
Bought the Benq TH575 after returning a couple cheapo projectors. Great image and decent brightness. Super low input lag. $650 Canadian.
I have the X3100i .. love it
is the contrast that bad? I was about to place an order
Ooh. Perfect. Thank you.
This review was fantastic, your breakdown of the technology and the fact you put the camera on the rail and slid it to show the rainbow effect was absolteIy brilliant.
I know this is probably super niche but I am in the process of looking for a good projector specifically for 3D. I've watched about 8 of your videos so far.
My budget is around $1000 but I am ok with a used unit. Currently I'm leaning towards the XGIMI Horizon Pro but I know that it has contrast issues based on your other fantastic reviews.
Also I don't need the 4k, and although I like the increase lifespan of laser and led backlights, they aren't strictly a requirement.
I doubt anyone else really cares about 3D, but seeing as the only current official offers that support 3D are projectors, and searching for "best 3d projector" gives one AI generated garbage videos/websites. Perhaps you might get some results with a short 2-3 minute video. I very much appreciated your addition of information about which projectors support 3d on the spec intro for each projector, it was helpful :)
XGIMI Horizon Ultra is the best 3D experience I've ever had. I am not super sensitive to RBE, but I see lots of "flicker" in some 3D projectors. Horizon Ultra had no flicker and was an overall excellent experience. Black levels leave something to be desired, but 3D tends to darken things significantly anyways. I know you said your budget was around $1000, but if you've got a little stretch I don't think you'd regret it if 3D is a big selling point for you. Otherwise I'd wait because there are a bunch of new lifestyle projectors coming out this year so we'll probably see some good price cuts on existing models.
@@TheHookUp Wow!!! Thanks so much for your reply! I will review your videos concerning the XGIMI Horizon Ultra vs the XGIMI Horizon Pro. Perhaps there is sufficient difference to justify the cost. I can get the XGIMI Horizon Pro relatively cheap used where I am $700. Also I was looking most recently at the OPTIMA GT3500HDR which is the new laser variant of the OPTIMA GT5600 UST projector. The GT3500HDRseems to be on sale for $1275 on Amazon sometimes according to some posts online, meanwhile the GT5600 can be bought for $600 on ebay. I don't need 4k so the 1080p projectors seem to make a degree of sense.
EDIT: One other thing you could add in addition to if a projector supports 3d on the spec page is perhaps at what refresh rate it natively supports it, 120 / 144 are the most common these days it seems. You can measure this pretty easily with a photo diode (or probably some of the other gear you have).
I love all the projector videos. Thank you for taking the time and I purchased a couple using your affiliate link. Would love if you can do a video on projecting on the house. I am trying to find a good projector for projecting holiday decorations on the house but need something that is bright and can fill the entire house. I know this may not be something that everyone does and may be niche. However, there is no CZcams videos on this exact subject. Some explain what you should look for and name a couple of brands and models which is very outdated and there is no actual real world comparisons. Hope you read this and consider it. Thanks again
You mean no youtube videos on selecting a projector, or none about actually projection mapping? It's a pretty niche topic unfortunately, and everyone's budget and installation specifics will be different making it pretty hard to do a "one size fits all" kind of comparison.
None on selecting a projector for mapping. There are tutorials on how to map your house, but none of them go into detail on what is the best projector for your house. They tell you look for these specs but as you know specs aren’t always true.
Excellent video, thank you! But I am wondering how the results would change when using a Grey or black projector wall...
Do you mean the wall is grey or black and the screen is still 1.0gain or are you talking about using a low gain screen?
@TheHookUp let's assume it's still gain 1.0 on a dark Grey screen wall. Do you think the x500i would still show details in dark film areas or will it just become all black while the whites become egg tones because of the missing brightness then? Maybe the brighter models like the viewsonics will have more accurate results then, compared to the reference files you played? I am planning on getting a beamer for the European soccer championship but of course I will opt for a Grey screen wall in my home lounge so I can watch with friends without turning all lights completely out and still enjoy Grey and dark levels... so my question is not just theoretical but straight forward for a real use case in a social proper environment at home. Thanks for considering, HookUp Man 🙂👌
I still don't know what you are talking about unfortunately. Are you saying you have a gray 1.0 gain screen? That's basically impossible and most gray paints will have a gain of 0.8 or less. Why do you keep saying "screen wall" instead of "screen" or "wall"?
If you want a projector that can be viewed with the lights on you should opt for a UST with a proper ALR screen.
@TheHookUp oh so there is no 1.0 gain screen, they are 0.8 or less? Thanks for the clarification. I misunderstand your last question about Grey or black screens still are available with 1.0 gain. My question was originally without any gain factor. I don't know about gain factors in the results so I can't consider for now. But I know that a gray or black screen will need more light power in the projector to make a proper white so I am a little worried that the x500i power will be enough to illuminate a Grey screen in a social friendly room. There is a Grey screen about 120 inch available at Amazon here in Germany for 230€. No details about gain or whatever. Just it's very instead of white and therefore the contrast will of course be different from the white screen while the black levels might disappear to be all just plain black/ dark Grey with a weak brightness beamer on that screen. May I ask you why you are using a white screen in the first place? Does that have some advantage that I don't know yet? Thanks for answering, HookUp Man 🙂
White screens are the standard for projectors. When you start using different colors it is impossible to judge color accuracy. When talking about gray screens you can measure their white gain, but they will have slightly different gains for each color resulting in very poor color accuracy.
Can you review BenQ HT2060 projector ?
This is a great review - Thanks! For those who care about black levels, contrast and sharpness, my pick would be Lx700-4k. BenQ models have RBE and blurry edges, have not seen that with ViewSonic models.
That is not backed up by the data from this video. The LX700-4k had relatively poor black levels in full power mode (0.101nits) and has an unusable dynamic black mode due to noticeable "steps" in laser dimming. The X2-4K's black levels were much better even with dynamic black mode off (0.067nits) and had a very usable dynamic black mode with a black floor of 0.034nits.
The RBE was no different on the BENQ vs the Viewsonic models in this video, and I would say overall the focus on the BENQ units was better than the Viewsonics.
@@TheHookUp dynamic black mode is bad, use cinema or game mode on lx700 for best black levels with contrast +10 and brightness -12. May be your setup is different - for me in a 155 inch screen in pitch black environment, I have tested many BenQ models (Ht4550, Ht3560). I found lx700 having superior black levels sharpness and brightness with no RBE or speckles. I agree it falls short on color accuracy. Just my perspective...
Dynamic black is not a picture mode, it's under lamp options. You get "constant power", "dynamic black" and "eco", and those are all selectable for each picture mode. The tests in this video were done in Cinema. LX700-4k has better native blacks than the ht4550i (and X3100i) for sure, but not better than the X500i. HT4550i blows the LX700-4K out of the water in terms of color accuracy though.
When will you do a PAINT video? best wall paint for projecting on a wall?
July 5th
Hey would you recommend these style of projectors for a Golf Sim setup?
Eh, not really. Golf sim projectors need a different subset of requirements, here are the golf sim projector cliffs notes:
1) Short throw is preferable for not casting shadows onto your impact screen.
2) Contrast and black floor do not matter since you'll be using them in a room with high ambient light (so you can see the golf ball).
3) Brightness and color do matter.
4) 1080p and WUXGA are good budget options, the 4K resolution upgrade is marginal since impact screens generally have heavy texture that will diminish the 4K clarity.
5) Most people will end up with DLP projectors, but if you want to use a rear mounted swing camera you should opt for a 3LCD option (usually from Epson or Panasonic) instead because your swing camera will show all the rainbows from the DLP.
6) Input lag has no effect in a golf sim. Launch monitors have lag times between 500-2000ms, so adding a fraction of a second more from the projector makes no difference.
I've used a bunch of projectors in my sim, but have currently settled on the BENQ LK936ST that I bought for two main reasons:
1) It's designed to be extra dust proof and temperature tolerant, which is important since my sim is in my garage.
2) I use a nearly 1:1 aspect ratio, so with a 1080p projector (BENQ 671ST) I was losing a significant amount of resolution to the strange aspect ratio.
Thanks! Lots of info!
thanks! long way to go for projectors vs OLED TVs.😔I just buy the LG C3 and don't worry about the latency and pixel response times. I just hate the size and fragility of TVs. I'm starting to watch plenty 4k60 youtube videos lately, and I feel CZcams will release support 4k120 soon.
I wouldn't be so sure. Even the C3 doesn't support 240hz, and OLED gaming monitors that do 240hz rely on BFI to reduce motion blur. DLP doesn't have those issues.
@@TheHookUp 240Hz likely diminishing returns to me esp. I don't play FPS games. I've heard of 240hz OLED with BFI. if I remember correctly BFI only improves on top of the greatpixel response times of OLED which pales DLP's need for multi-sampling 4k.
thinking about the x3100 or the x500i but what screen should you focus on when taking one of this projectors ?
Both the x3100i and x500i are RGBB LED projectors, so they are compatible with basically every screen type and unlike laser projectors will never show laser speckle.
@@TheHookUp thx for the quick response. great video made me decide to go for the x500i.
Hello. Tell me please, you are change color settings in viewsonic lx 700 or you use the default settings in test? If you are using the default settings, please tell me which image setting was set. I want buy viewsonic lx 700, but heard about the poor colour calibration from the factory and don't understand, Is it possible to use it on the default settings or is that no good.
I did not calibrate these projectors for the video. They were all used in their most color accurate mode for testing, which was Movie for the LX700.
@@TheHookUp And the display mode is standard, not eco?
@@SerheoReutty Correct, I think it's called "constant power" on the LX700, set to 100%.
I didnt have time to get to even halfway so if you mentioned this later in the vid, my bad.
Dudes if youre deciding between the Nexigo and one of the BenQs and leaning towards BenQ you should keep in mind..the differnce between 8.6ms and 16ms input lag will be nothing. To anybody.
Discernible input lag is way higher to the eye.
He uses expensive testing equipment so everythings precise.
Tbh, flatout...not even close in this list of PJs the Nexigo is the automatic choice. If ultra short throw is an option that is.
The specs after testing on everything will blow them all out overall.
And dont forget to use his link to buy any projector hes tested.
Just search hook up projectors and the make and model. If hes reviewed it, the video will pop up.
And just my little old opinion and only in the interest of helping...the Aurora Pro is the obvious winner.
Serious gamers ( not professional perhaps) watch movies too dont ya? Its so much better.
I wonder how the Optoma UHD55 4K Ultra would compare with these projectors ?
I believe the UHD55 is the 0.47" DMD, so less contrast, and more screen door effect, but also less XPR noise.
i am still not sure to get the Nexigo pro or the awol 3000/3500 pro. gaming is most important thing with 4k 60hz or 1440p at 120. after that comes watching movies. Did you do some testing with the awol ust aswell or is it not suited for gaming and thats why you didnt include it in this video?
On the most recent firmware the AWOL 3500 Pro measures at 18.3ms for 4k60hz and 85.3ms for 1080p120hz, 31.7ms at 1080p240hz and 18.4ms at 1440p120hz. However, the 1440p120hz measurement is not stable, which indicates that it might be dropping every other frame and displaying at 1440p60hz, but I'd need to do further testing on blur busters to validate that.
Hello, in a few of the projectors I used, dust particles were coming onto the image I was watching. I am obsessed with dust, is there a model or anything you can recommend me? It is said that DLP panels are better than LCD, I am very obsessed with this dust issue haha :) I would be very happy if you answer
I assume you mean single LCD projectors? DLP projectors will not get dust onto their DMD, it's a sealed system.
I was thinking of buying an Epson CO FH02, 3LCD technology, but I think dust will get in because it is LCD. Is there a model you can recommend? It could be 1080p. I think a DLP model will be better for me.And thank you so much for the answer
To be blunt the CO FH02 is garbage. It has extremely poor contrast and a non-replaceable bulb that will only give you 2000-3000 hours before you start seeing significant degradation. How much ambient light do you have in your viewing environment?
@@TheHookUp I have light-blocking curtains and I only watch at night. In short, I have a very dark environment.
I'd recommend the JMGO N1 if it's in your price range.
My fellow HoTS player!
Such an underrated game.
Do you have recommended seller on Alibaba or AliExpress for Projector? Looking at Vidda C2 Pro or Xgimi RS 10 Pro.. Thank you
Unfortunately any vendor that is willing to send you a C2 Pro or RS10 is likely not reputable. Both XGIMI and Hisense have authorized dealers in the US and any vendor that is selling them on AE or Alibaba is likely just buying them in China and sending them to the US without paying import fees or taxes (illegally).
@@TheHookUp thank you so much.. I hope next time you do a review of Vidda C2 Pro and Xgimi RS 10 Pro.. On paper they are both good.. Not sure if that the case in real life.. More power..
What would you recomend for gaming at sub $200
Nexigo PJ40 is a little over $200, but has very low input lag.
How does it compare to the foremovie X5 or C1 ? Is laser really sharper and more vibrant ?
Laser is definitely more vibrant, and side by side the C1 is more "punchy" than the X500i, but the X500i is quite a bit more true to source and color accurate.
@@TheHookUpHow do you feel the blacks levels compare?
@@guiltynessness8926 Black levels on the X500i are noticeably better.
I have the nexigo for playin
And 4 real i love it
best laser projector?
Wonderful comparison! Great review! But comparing WCG mode of X3100i is not good idea. Because normal HDR10 mode showing quite better image quality than HDR10(WCG). In spite of contrast number is quite better X500i but the image of X3100i looks much better than X500i in SDR. I think HDR mode would be similar result if WCG mode was turn off. Anyway your review was fantastic.
Please please review dangbei x5 ultra with the dangbei mars pro. Om paper x5 ultra seems better but there is no comparison anywhere. If you cannot can you atleast suggest which to buy from dnagbei mars pro 2 or dangbei x5 ultra or any other in that price currently available anywhere?
I spoke with Dangbei last week and they don't currently have any plans to release the X5 Globally. I will be reviewing the Mars Pro 2 soon.
@@TheHookUp have you tested the available one from aliexpress? Just want to know your opinion which do you think would be better the x5 or mars pro 2?
No. I will not be testing the X5 Ultra unless it gets a global release.
@@TheHookUp I also contacted Dangbei about the X5 Ultra and they said the Mars Pro 2 is the International equivalent. Unfortunately, they seem quite different as the X5 Ultra uses a newer ALPD 5.0 light engine but the Mars Pro 2 doesn't.
Also, thank you for making this video. Your projector reviews are one of the very few I trust on CZcams and the level of effort and detail you put in is wholeheartedly appreciated.
So i only had 100.00 and wanted a 1080p projector....i didnt want another china projector at this budget..so i got a jvc d-ila rs1x for 75.00 with local pick up. Didnt know about input lag on a projector till...now. guess i just watch movies and play on the steamdeck
I'd like to see you test the BenQ HT2060. On paper it should be even better value than the X500i.
-It has better colors than the X500i (98% vs 95% rec709)
-better native contrast (2000:1)
-still supports 1080p@120hz for gaming with 8ms lag which should satisfy most console gamers
-accepts 4k/HDR signals (important because a lot of streaming services lock Dolby Atmos to 4k streams)
All for under $1k.
You lose the 4k shift but that's one of the negatives on the x500i anyway.
2060 doesn't really support 1080p120, it downscales to 60hz. That means you can get the benefit of lower input lag, but motion blur will be just as bad as 60hz and you may notice increased stutter from the dropped frames. I can't think of a reason why it would have better color space coverage or contrast since it uses the same light source and DMD. Where do you see the 2000:1 native contrast?
Wow. I'm surprised the cheaper x500i has double the contrast of the x3100i. But I suppose that makes sense since it's considerably less bright.
I think the optical paths are significantly different also. x3100i and HT4550i have very similar contrast numbers.
Great video
Budget projectors for exteriors please🙏
I'm not really sure what you mean. Do you mean weather resistant? Or portable? Or ultra bright?
@@TheHookUp Wow! Thank you for answering! I meant ultra bright 🙏
Unfortunately no such thing as budget ultra bright. Best option to go to ebay and search “large venue projector” and find one from barco, christie, or panasonic with low hours.
@@TheHookUp Yeah, I meant bang for the buck.
BenQ x500i or Hisense C1 for home theater?
Depends. If you want a "wow" experience with colors that pop off the screen and dolby vision support go with the C1. If you want a true-to-source very accurate picture with good black levels go for the x500i.
I have the BenQ TK700STi, why the X500i?
I don't understand the question, sorry.
What better for movies. The benq 500 or the Hisense C1?
Depends. If you want a "wow" experience with colors that pop off the screen and dolby vision support go with the C1. If you want a true-to-source very accurate picture with good black levels go for the x500i.
@@TheHookUp Overall Excellent review.
I have the viewsonic x2-4k which screen work the best with this ??
Pretty much whatever screen you want. It is an LED projector, so it won't have any issues with speckle like you might have with a laser projector when using certain screens.
Thanks you ❤ as always the best reviewer on the internet
Commenting for the algo
Great as always
Dope as always. But you should definitely brightness match the projectors when comparing them. Hard to truly evaluate black levels and color saturation between projectors when one projector is 600 lumens brighter.
Hard pass on that. Thats like cylinder matching a honda civic to a corvette to compare gas mileage.
@@TheHookUp lol, huh? It’s more like just turning the laser brightness down to the match output of the lowest lumen projector. Again how can accurately evaluate black levels between two projector if one projector is 600 lumens brighter. You don’t think the LX700-4K can match the x500i black levels if its laser output was set between 60-70%?
@GBD85 contrast ratio is the same regardless of max brightness. No need to cripple a brighter projector.
@@TheHookUp but you weren’t using contrast levels to elevate one projector over the other. It’s seems like the lowest lumen projector on a 100” white screen won not the projector with the greatest contrast.
Watch again, that was not at all the case. In most rounds the higher contrast projector won.
Is that HOTS? Man I love that game!
Best MOBA for sure, too bad it mostly got abandoned by Blizzard.
Benq X500i or Hisense C1 for mainly movies and series?
Depends. If you want a "wow" experience with colors that pop off the screen and dolby vision support go with the C1. If you want a true-to-source very accurate picture with good black levels go for the x500i.
@@TheHookUp Thank you for your response, you are very generous with your information and time. I'll probably go with the X500i it's 300 euros cheaper here and has a year longer warranty.
hello. Could you tell me which is the best projector for Ps5 for games up to a price of €500? Thank you very much and keep up the excellent work
What about the Benq TK700 ?
I don't typically review lamp projectors for a variety of reasons, but mostly because performance varies significantly based on lamp hours, and even a difference in 200-300 lamp hours can cause massive shifts in color accuracy and brightness.
@@TheHookUpwhat do you recommande instead in that same price range please. doesn’t have to be for gaming.
Crazy how projectors can have a really low level of motion blur while gaming monitors still suffering with it, even OLEDs.
I ask myself when we will get desk monitors that were as good as CRTs (god level motion clarity and smoothness) without their disadvantages.
Digital Displays will probably never reach Analog smoothness but they can get close enough.
@@overnightdeliverymeanwhile we completely abandoned them! Im pretty sure that many gamers today would be amazed if we could get something similar to CRTs, but with the advances of technology of this generation.
can someone tell me which projector is better the benq x500i or the x3000 ?
X500i hands down.
@@TheHookUp the problem is that the x500i is a short distance projector in my room its about 3,5 m i dont know which beamer i should buy maybe u have some in ur mind
Gaming projectors should include the 21:9 and 32:9 aspect ratios.
I'm confused what you mean by this, a dlp chip can only natively support a single aspect ratio. You can play 21:9 or 32:9 with black bars.
No mention of E-Arc?!
I showed a close up of each projector's rear panel, if eARC is an important thing for your setup you can read which ones support it right on the inputs.
@@TheHookUp Thank you for clarifying. Would it mention EARC specifically in the input labels or is it a given depending on the level of HDMI they support?
eARC on HDMI 2.0 still supports high bandwidth uncompressed audio.
Benq is definitely picking up their contrast and black game, which is fantastic!
The 0.65" DMD is known for excellent native contrast compared to the 0.47" chip.
Is there anyway to contact you directly
For what purpose?
@@TheHookUp Is there any email to contact you with collaboration
We need the review for the new lx700.4k.ultraaaaa😊😊
You mean the RGB version? Are they calling it the ultra?
Yes,it Is out in china, write lx700 4k ultra, there are some preview, It Is black
It remains to be seen when it will be officially distributed in Europe and the USA, the x700 4k after 2 months could be bought in Europe
1000/FPS is not the minimum possible lag, if you measure just before new frames are painted you get it lower. So in fact you will get average value of 1000/FPS/2 minimum lag because of chances to shot in a random time between frames.
That does not track with my experience with DLP projectors.
@@TheHookUp your experience with DLP projectors might differ because the lag involves not only the frame rate but also the response time of the projector and the specific technologies used in handling the input signal and processing the image. And that value could always be higher than half of frame time, I mean that the actual device lag is a bit higher than your calculations suggest.
There always needs to be one frame loaded into the frame buffer, that's why a single frame is the minimum input lag. If you are talking about some other type of display device then there are a lot more possibilities and the input lag could even be 0ms if you were measuring from the first scanline of a CRT for instance.
@@TheHookUp I'm referring to an error in calculating lag on any device, not just projectors. Your calculations based on the full frame interval (1000/FPS) might not account for the average lag, which is actually closer to 1000/FPS/2, since inputs can occur at any point during the interval.
Gotcha, I'm not sure where you are getting your information or experience from, but you aren't making much sense. Here's an excellent thread from an expert talking about the many different ways to measure input lag and the minimum measurement for each display type: forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12875&p=100495&hilit=dlp+projectors#p100495
Rainbows , rainbows everywhere for me .
Have to have LCD , no choice .
At 60 fps, the "minimum" input lag is not 16.7 ms! The lag ranges from [0 ms + projector ms, 16.7 ms + projector ms].
In other words, only looking at refresh rate, the most a frame needs to wait to be drawn is 16.7 ms, and the least is 0 ms. For instance, assume the game has an updated frame for your input in the frame buffer within a few cycles of your input. The projector comes by and reads that frame buffer every 16.7 ms. If it happens to read exactly after the new frame is available, it will have 0 ms inherent lag. Obviously, the average age of your input when the frame buffer is read is exactly halfway between, and this will clearly dominate, so you should instead say the "average" is 8.3 ms (minimum).
Contrast this with a CRT where all pixels can literally be picked up right off the buffer by the beam gun at 0 ms. With CRT, the average (for any updates to show up) is still not quite 0 ms because it generally reads and writes several pixels in each row at once, so there is still a miniscule fraction of inter-line lag, but it's a couple orders of magnitude less in most cases. (that doesn't mean the whole frame will have updated -- just that there will be *some* update around 0 ms. Whole-frame update time is still bound by the same refresh-rate constraint, so the average for the full frame to update will be similar at 8.3 ms).
That is not correct. For a DLP projector measured with the Leo Bodnar lag tester the minimum is 16.7ms for all the reasons stated in this video. Different display types will be measured differently. Here's an excellent thread from an expert talking about the many different ways to measure input lag and the minimum measurement for each display type: forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12875&p=100495&hilit=dlp+projectors#p100495
yo playa! i found yo ass on reddit- i dont usually talk like this