Great video as ever John. As a former team mate I have always been aware of your passion for getting things right with you bait or tackle and it shows here. Keep them coming please. Joe.
Thank you for this very informative video Mr. Arthur. I am writing to you from 'the other side of the pond' (California, USA), and I am getting serious about fishing for Cyprinids again after catching my first Common Carp (16 lbs) on a home brew doughball at age 13 in my local river. I am impressed with how the anglers from your part of the world have created such an art form in fishing for species that have long been much derided over here as 'trash fish', when Carp and the other large minnows are actually some of the smartest and wariest of all freshwater fishes. A relatively small but dedicated cadre of anglers over here are finally catching on as to the sport available to them for these tough fighters, and are starting to afford these 'forgotten' fish species with the respect that they deserve. I have subscribed and will be watching your knot tyer tricks video next. Thanks again. Tight lines always.
Thanks for the lovely comments. Always surprises me how carp are derided over there, but maybe if we had your bass over here it’d be similar? Best of luck with the carp catching 👍👍
Aren’t King carp species falling foul of the invasive Asian carp in the United States. Surely they can see that King carp are a totally different animal to the invasive Asian carp ?
I love the feeder and use the method on canals and rivers and commercials. I keep a diary( very sad) and when I fish a venue I may use the method feeder and next time the float and the time after that my pole and possibly some drop shotting for Perch. I keep a record of how each peg or venue fishes using each method. Great video
Thanks Jon brilliant video and just the information I need. Five years ago having tried fishing aged 12 and not catching anything I decided fishing wasn't for me. Forward 56 years aged 68 fed up with whizzing about on my motorbike I thought I would give it another go and I love it. Now aged 73 I am struggling to garner all of the information I need to , I am surprised you can't get a degree in Angling, so your video is particularly helpful. I don't doubt I will have to refer to it often but its nice to know its there. An example of that is I didn't know a Method Feeder had to be free running. Thanks again for such a great video Ted
Brilliant! The amount of time I’ve wasted unpicking my palomar knot to a quick change bead on the method, it’s so much better on a loop like yours! Thanks Jon
A fantastic video as always from one of my favourite anglers on u-tube,brilliantly demonstrated and explained.Thankyou very much for the video John it was great to watch,
Absolutely brilliant video Jon. I will definitely be revisiting this in the future. Something I haven’t really seen before on CZcams before hats off to you. 🎣🎣
Tip - if you're adding a twizzle to a length of line without weight, as in rig #6, then you CAN add a weight to the hooklength loop using an open paper clip or an almost-closed staple with a bomb on it, and the twizzle will be easier to create. Keep it handy in the tackle room when prepping your feeder rigs / rods, and your twizzles will be super-tight on every rig.
Excellent tutorial video. Insightful and with good camera work. Perhaps next video could be on how to attach the feeder rigs to "made-up rods" to reduce setting up time on the bank. This would allow rigs to be made at home and quickly attached on the bank? Great video. Thorough enjoyed it.
Good question, Tony, I can only say what I do. I have my rods made up, with rigs, minus hook lengths, bombs or feeder. It's trickier when using fine lines, which don't take kindly to being transported set up, and are probably best made up on the bank. I'd guess matchmen have multiple rods set up for changing conditions and whatever's biting.
Loved the video Jon, some great tips on how to set up a feeder rig and how you have adjusted it to suit your type of fishing including the use of twizzled line, I used to use a paternoster rig years ago when I fished a canal near me but I connected the hook length to the large loop instead of doing it like you did in the video as I used the large loop to act as a buffer between the mainline and hooklentgh
The sliding paternoster is something we've used for years for barbel and chub with meats etc. only the mainline goes through to the hook. If a break occurs above the feeder then any fish that will take the size of bait we're using will pull line through the sliding knot.
@@JonArthur I like the way you go into more detail I think you help a lot of people out with your tips mate can I make a request I would like to see some winter pole rigs mate with the shot patterns please
Glad it was useful, I would pretty much do the same thing with any feeder. Only one I may have missed is the loop-style river maggot feeder or dink dink style fishing, but thats very specialised.
Same kind of knots for braid really, but attaching bread to mono as a shock leader I use a biggish 1in or so loop in the braid and then just a half blood knot with the mono to that bites in well and seems very secure and doesn't seem to slip.
The " Top sleeve" of most method feeders won't last a session if you use braid as your main line....especally if there is a knot in the line... Even the plastic of the feeder... It just saws it way through them, and, no, I don't use a shock leader.. ( another knot...)
I’ve never had any issues with tail rubbers being cut through but agree with some feeders it serves little purpose other than neatness. On the newer interchangeable stem feeder designs it helps stop the feeder falling off though.
I dont think the size is that important with regards the size of fish as they will all be considerably stronger than the line you're using, but Im terrible with understanding swivel sizes, so I buy all sorts and it could be anything from a 12 to a 20. Smaller ones for basic feeder links as I dont want extra weight. Bigger ones better for quick change elasticated feeder stems though as theyre easier to get on and off and dont compromise the rig mechanics.
I was a nibbler for ages, but I bought some of those matrix braid scissors with the green handles you are using, they're fantastic. Question Jon: what hook length lengths do you recommend for fishing method? My waters only allow free running, not elasticated. If that has a bearing
Thanks Tom. If in doubt always stick to 4in hooklengths on the Method. If lots of f1s are about then 3in can definitely be worth a try. Rarely go longer unless it's very big carp or bream your after. Stick to 0.20mm for most venues, maybe down to 0.16mm if its F1s. And 0.23 if its big creatures!
Great video Jon, those beads in the helicopter rig: Could they be used for securing heavy olivettes on river pole rigs, instead of using shot, or bristle?
Yes you could use rubber float stops, but they’re a ‘use once’ option and I still prefer shot above and below. A little chain of shot directly below an olivette seems to alleviate tangles too.
@@JonArthur Hi Jon. Great vid as always. Can I just say, you can use the float stops more than once. Indeed I have used them until they become loose on the line
hi jon, do you think that a quick change hooklength swivel changes the presentation of the hooklength because of the weight of it, and do you think the fish can feel it?? thanks
Yes I think it can change the bites on a standard paternoster style feeder if its somewhere further away between the feeder and the hooklength, even with a tiny one, so that's another reason why I prefer a loop to loop most of the time. A fish must be able to detect the weight of the swivel at times I am sure, so it all depends how positive the bites and self hooking nature of the rig is.
thanks jon, i did think that may be the case, even the smallest weight would make the difference, i just fish a simple running line feeder set up with a twizzled boom at the end, loop to loop it is then @@JonArthur 👍
Hi Jon. Another informative video as usual. Quick question. I’ve tried to rejoin your members channel on a iPhone and it says the monthly fee is 3.99 as opposed to 2.99. Any ideas why?
Thanks for highlighting this Darren. I’ve just checked and yes it does now says £3.99 via my iPhone too, yet I’ve definitely not made any changes so I will have to investigate further and see if CZcams have added yet more fees or something… But in fairness I wish I had made it £3.99 as at the time as I never realised how big a percentage YT take. It’s closer to half than the 30% stated once admin fees etc are included…
Thanks for the prompt response. I’m sure your members would be happy with a tweak to the price now that you’ve highlighted this and the quality of the content
Ok Ive just checked and it must be an iOS thing as it’s still £2.99 via my desktop Mac yet says £3.99 via my iPhone. I’m guessing Apple are being charged more as there was a rift between CZcams and Apple iOS over memberships, but it is frustratingly hard to get to the bottom of stuff like this via searches and there’s rarely a definitive answer or instruction from CZcams.
@@JonArthurits because you are charged extra on Apple devices Jon, I found that out from Richie on winning ways as members on there have had the same thing when trying to join
That no knot above the feeder rule seems odd, as it would prohibit the use of a shock-leader. *Edit* Had time to go and check Lindholme's rules, the no knot or stop above the feeder rule is indeed still in effect, so it looks like I'll be reloading a spool or two with heavier line. I used to use the palomar knot all the time, up to 20 years ago, I really need to get some practice in on it. I find twizzling a boom to be impossible, tried following pretty much every video showing how to do it available on youtube, but somehow I just can't get it to work. But then I can't recall ever having a tangle because I didn't have it. Saying that though, with this and all the other videos and articles on tying these rigs, I'm utterly dumbfounded that there's a market for pre-tied running rigs, you still have to attach them to your spool line, and that's where I think people get stuck or slip up on, what knot to use (alberto/albright/double blood/double uni/double grinner, etc).
very very good video John very helpful, and a very good insight in to how you do your feeder fishing, Thank you, !!o!! Thank you for commenting on my community post, i did better than expected i came third in the match, Thank you again
Threading the line through the wire loop on those rubber stops are a nightmare!! Lol. Great video, thanks.
Agreed!
Great video as ever John. As a former team mate I have always been aware of your passion for getting things right with you bait or tackle and it shows here. Keep them coming please. Joe.
Thanks so much Joe, hope all's Ok with you mate. Miss those team fishing days!
So do I John, keep doing what you are doing so well.@@JonArthur
Thank you for this very informative video Mr. Arthur. I am writing to you from 'the other side of the pond' (California, USA), and I am getting serious about fishing for Cyprinids again after catching my first Common Carp (16 lbs) on a home brew doughball at age 13 in my local river. I am impressed with how the anglers from your part of the world have created such an art form in fishing for species that have long been much derided over here as 'trash fish', when Carp and the other large minnows are actually some of the smartest and wariest of all freshwater fishes. A relatively small but dedicated cadre of anglers over here are finally catching on as to the sport available to them for these tough fighters, and are starting to afford these 'forgotten' fish species with the respect that they deserve. I have subscribed and will be watching your knot tyer tricks video next. Thanks again. Tight lines always.
Thanks for the lovely comments. Always surprises me how carp are derided over there, but maybe if we had your bass over here it’d be similar? Best of luck with the carp catching 👍👍
Aren’t King carp species falling foul of the invasive Asian carp in the United States. Surely they can see that King carp are a totally different animal to the invasive Asian carp ?
I love the feeder and use the method on canals and rivers and commercials. I keep a diary( very sad) and when I fish a venue I may use the method feeder and next time the float and the time after that my pole and possibly some drop shotting for Perch. I keep a record of how each peg or venue fishes using each method. Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Jon brilliant video and just the information I need. Five years ago having tried fishing aged 12 and not catching anything I decided fishing wasn't for me. Forward 56 years aged 68 fed up with whizzing about on my motorbike I thought I would give it another go and I love it. Now aged 73 I am struggling to garner all of the information I need to , I am surprised you can't get a degree in Angling, so your video is particularly helpful. I don't doubt I will have to refer to it often but its nice to know its there. An example of that is I didn't know a Method Feeder had to be free running. Thanks again for such a great video Ted
Really glad the film has helped. Best of luck with your fishing!
Brilliant! The amount of time I’ve wasted unpicking my palomar knot to a quick change bead on the method, it’s so much better on a loop like yours! Thanks Jon
Glad you found it useful. All the best with your fishing.
A fantastic video as always from one of my favourite anglers on u-tube,brilliantly demonstrated and explained.Thankyou very much for the video John it was great to watch,
Appreciate that James many thanks
Brilliant, one of the most informative videos that I have seen.
Loved it, thank you John
Pete
Great to hear Pete! :-)
I'm just starting out on feeder fishing, so your video has been a great help, thanks.
Great to hear!
Absolutely brilliant video Jon. I will definitely be revisiting this in the future. Something I haven’t really seen before on CZcams before hats off to you. 🎣🎣
Glad you enjoyed it
Very detailed info, thank you so much from a returning angler. Things
have changed so much.
Glad you found it informative Steve
a very clear video, great display for a novice to see what we are supposed to do.
Glad it was helpful!
Another great video. You should have been a teacher Jon ! Explained very clearly, and some good tips to improve the rigs
Appreciate that many thanks 👍👍
Always learn a good few tips from watching jon, i feeder fish alot so ill be trying some of these simple but effective tips 👍
Best of luck
Cheers John, so many choices 😂 I've sent this to my desk top to remind me 👍
Nice one!
The twizzeld boom is brilliant. Combined with Will Raison’s fluorocarbon leader fished slack tip. Cracking combo
Great stuff
Loved this vid Jon...most likely will draw a feeder swim tomorrow...going to try the twizzle boom!
Have fun!
Once again a great no nonscence and informative video, thanks a lot for all your time and effort.
Thanks Stuart, will do another later this year hopefully
Another bit of line on the floor for my wife to find 😂 another great vid
Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant tutorial John learnt so much, you explain everything so well , thankyou.
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent tutorial Jon. Very well explained
Glad you liked it!
Brilliant video Jon, Palomar is a game changer for me. A much better knot, thank you 👍
Great to hear!
Nice rig video Jon. Just in time for my autumn/ winter fishing 👍🏻
best of luck with the campaign
Tip - if you're adding a twizzle to a length of line without weight, as in rig #6, then you CAN add a weight to the hooklength loop using an open paper clip or an almost-closed staple with a bomb on it, and the twizzle will be easier to create. Keep it handy in the tackle room when prepping your feeder rigs / rods, and your twizzles will be super-tight on every rig.
Good tip Steve!
explained a few problems ive had thanks so much will definatley be trying those
Great to hear!
Another great video Jon, very informative. You really are a good company man, even your curtains are in Matrix colours !!!!!
Glad you like them!
Excellent tutorial video. Insightful and with good camera work. Perhaps next video could be on how to attach the feeder rigs to "made-up rods" to reduce setting up time on the bank. This would allow rigs to be made at home and quickly attached on the bank? Great video. Thorough enjoyed it.
Glad you found it useful Tony
Good question, Tony, I can only say what I do. I have my rods made up, with rigs, minus hook lengths, bombs or feeder. It's trickier when using fine lines, which don't take kindly to being transported set up, and are probably best made up on the bank. I'd guess matchmen have multiple rods set up for changing conditions and whatever's biting.
As just getting into fishing jon knolwage is invaluable very well explained Very clear as clear aswell . Thanks
Great to hear thanks
Loved the video Jon, some great tips on how to set up a feeder rig and how you have adjusted it to suit your type of fishing including the use of twizzled line, I used to use a paternoster rig years ago when I fished a canal near me but I connected the hook length to the large loop instead of doing it like you did in the video as I used the large loop to act as a buffer between the mainline and hooklentgh
Good to hear thanks
Excellent as always Jon, helicopter my go to rig.
Good to hear Mark
Very well explained Jon, thanks for the tips 😊
Many thanks Melvyn
Really good vid Jon
Much appreciated 👍👍
The sliding paternoster is something we've used for years for barbel and chub with meats etc. only the mainline goes through to the hook. If a break occurs above the feeder then any fish that will take the size of bait we're using will pull line through the sliding knot.
Yes I think it makes a lot of sense for big fish river rigs as the tail can be so long sometimes on pacey swims
Great video for a new comer like me. I will be practicing all of those! thanks.
Great stuff Lee!
Awesome video JA. Didn't think i would learn anything. Palamor knott, defo start using it.
Good to hear!
That was absolutely brilliant thank you Jon 👏👏👏
Many thanks
Great bit of tutoring John 👍
Happy to help
Great job, thanks
Thanks for watching!
some great advice there
Cheers Phil
Great video Jon . Learnt a lot from this buddy 👌
Glad to hear it!
End peg you have done it again brilliant video please keep up the good work
Appreciate that thanks Graham
Hello Jon,
Thank you for this vidéo 👍👍
Cheers.
daniel (France)
Merci beaucoup Daniel! :-)
Brilliant, thx , Jon
Appreciate that thanks Eddie
Brilliant jon
Thanks asktheefathe (is that a Denis White expression, “Ask thee Fatha?”)
Brilliant Jon
Many thanks
Very informative Jon, thanks a lot
Cheers Jerry
Thanks Jon great rig video , i always use the heli rig it never fails. Tightlines and cheesy peas
Good stuff cheesy!
Just rewatching this video, would you say the heli rig is a fixed rig.? Cos I know lots of fishery dnot like fixed rig. Cheers Jon
Thank you very much for the great video Jon 👏👏👏
Glad you liked it!
Learnt so much John, Thank you
So glad its been so well received
Thanks for a great, how to , video Jon.
Glad you found it helpful
Well done Jon never seen like that before work well great videos jon
Appreciate that thanks
Thank you Jon , very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic video, john 👏
Cheers Gavster!
Best CZcamsr for tips there is out there!!!!
Wow, thanks David!
@@JonArthurI agree with David on that jon
@@JonArthur I like the way you go into more detail I think you help a lot of people out with your tips mate can I make a request I would like to see some winter pole rigs mate with the shot patterns please
Thx Jon. Great well explained vid 👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
very good John
Thanks Mike
Great instructional video Jon - on my desktop too now. Any chance of covering maggot feeder rigs sometime?
Glad it was useful, I would pretty much do the same thing with any feeder. Only one I may have missed is the loop-style river maggot feeder or dink dink style fishing, but thats very specialised.
Great video jon thank you
Very welcome
Ten feeder rigs.
Boom!
Thanks for watching.
Thanks
Thanks so much Jak!! Hope you are doing OK mate.
Brilliant.🤩🤩
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, what knots would you use foe braid
Same kind of knots for braid really, but attaching bread to mono as a shock leader I use a biggish 1in or so loop in the braid and then just a half blood knot with the mono to that bites in well and seems very secure and doesn't seem to slip.
I use a stainless steel gate latch needle as the weight when I twizzle.
Good tip!
Open pellet feeder tbh. Worked gr8 for me that good this yr. Not bothered with others, on commercials ofc
Okey dokey
Excellent video Jon. Which ones would you use for certain situations? What's your preference for fast flowing rivers etc?
If Im chucking far then the helicopter, but I generally prefer a standard twizzled boom running setup other times.
@@JonArthur Cheers Jon, keep up the good work.
The " Top sleeve" of most method feeders won't last a session if you use braid as your main line....especally if there is a knot in the line...
Even the plastic of the feeder...
It just saws it way through them, and, no, I don't use a shock leader.. ( another knot...)
Yes agreed and not sure the top sleeve serves much purpose at times, but majority of venues people use mono so it'll last for that.
What is the purpose of a tail rubber Jon, typically used on flat bed feeders? The line seems to cut through it eventually. Is it really necessary?
I’ve never had any issues with tail rubbers being cut through but agree with some feeders it serves little purpose other than neatness. On the newer interchangeable stem feeder designs it helps stop the feeder falling off though.
Excellent video john,what size swivels and quick change links would you use for catching carp up to 10lb
Thanks
I dont think the size is that important with regards the size of fish as they will all be considerably stronger than the line you're using, but Im terrible with understanding swivel sizes, so I buy all sorts and it could be anything from a 12 to a 20. Smaller ones for basic feeder links as I dont want extra weight. Bigger ones better for quick change elasticated feeder stems though as theyre easier to get on and off and dont compromise the rig mechanics.
Thanks jon ,was concerned that the size and weight of the swivel might affect the movement
Cheers Ray
I was a nibbler for ages, but I bought some of those matrix braid scissors with the green handles you are using, they're fantastic. Question Jon: what hook length lengths do you recommend for fishing method? My waters only allow free running, not elasticated. If that has a bearing
Thanks Tom. If in doubt always stick to 4in hooklengths on the Method. If lots of f1s are about then 3in can definitely be worth a try. Rarely go longer unless it's very big carp or bream your after. Stick to 0.20mm for most venues, maybe down to 0.16mm if its F1s. And 0.23 if its big creatures!
Great video Jon, those beads in the helicopter rig: Could they be used for securing heavy olivettes on river pole rigs, instead of using shot, or bristle?
Yes you could use rubber float stops, but they’re a ‘use once’ option and I still prefer shot above and below. A little chain of shot directly below an olivette seems to alleviate tangles too.
@@JonArthur Hi Jon. Great vid as always. Can I just say, you can use the float stops more than once. Indeed I have used them until they become loose on the line
hi jon, do you think that a quick change hooklength swivel changes the presentation of the hooklength because of the weight of it, and do you think the fish can feel it?? thanks
Yes I think it can change the bites on a standard paternoster style feeder if its somewhere further away between the feeder and the hooklength, even with a tiny one, so that's another reason why I prefer a loop to loop most of the time. A fish must be able to detect the weight of the swivel at times I am sure, so it all depends how positive the bites and self hooking nature of the rig is.
thanks jon, i did think that may be the case, even the smallest weight would make the difference, i just fish a simple running line feeder set up with a twizzled boom at the end, loop to loop it is then @@JonArthur 👍
merci
No problemo 👍
Hi Jon. Another informative video as usual. Quick question. I’ve tried to rejoin your members channel on a iPhone and it says the monthly fee is 3.99 as opposed to 2.99. Any ideas why?
Thanks for highlighting this Darren. I’ve just checked and yes it does now says £3.99 via my iPhone too, yet I’ve definitely not made any changes so I will have to investigate further and see if CZcams have added yet more fees or something… But in fairness I wish I had made it £3.99 as at the time as I never realised how big a percentage YT take. It’s closer to half than the 30% stated once admin fees etc are included…
Thanks for the prompt response. I’m sure your members would be happy with a tweak to the price now that you’ve highlighted this and the quality of the content
Ok Ive just checked and it must be an iOS thing as it’s still £2.99 via my desktop Mac yet says £3.99 via my iPhone. I’m guessing Apple are being charged more as there was a rift between CZcams and Apple iOS over memberships, but it is frustratingly hard to get to the bottom of stuff like this via searches and there’s rarely a definitive answer or instruction from CZcams.
@@JonArthurits because you are charged extra on Apple devices Jon, I found that out from Richie on winning ways as members on there have had the same thing when trying to join
Hi Jon thinking of giving up my s 36 for an xr 36 Pro is there much difference in the weight as can't find any info.
Alt the weights are stated on the Matrix website for each box. Both 18.5kg I think.
@JonArthur many thanks Jon appreciate the help hope you and the family are keeping well.
Jon arthur, “the complete feeder rig angler”…
Ha ha cheers
That no knot above the feeder rule seems odd, as it would prohibit the use of a shock-leader.
*Edit* Had time to go and check Lindholme's rules, the no knot or stop above the feeder rule is indeed still in effect, so it looks like I'll be reloading a spool or two with heavier line.
I used to use the palomar knot all the time, up to 20 years ago, I really need to get some practice in on it.
I find twizzling a boom to be impossible, tried following pretty much every video showing how to do it available on youtube, but somehow I just can't get it to work. But then I can't recall ever having a tangle because I didn't have it.
Saying that though, with this and all the other videos and articles on tying these rigs, I'm utterly dumbfounded that there's a market for pre-tied running rigs, you still have to attach them to your spool line, and that's where I think people get stuck or slip up on, what knot to use (alberto/albright/double blood/double uni/double grinner, etc).
It's only Lindholme I know that state it but not the kind of venue you'd need a shock leader anyway
I only fish the pole.
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I expected a better comment than that from you, daft banana!
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very very good video John very helpful, and a very good insight in to how you do your feeder fishing, Thank you, !!o!! Thank you for commenting on my community post, i did better than expected i came third in the match, Thank you again
Well done James!