Steam Link & Steam VR Settings Guide - Latency Vs Image Quality
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
- In this video, we take a look at the new Steam Link PCVR mode, and Steam VR settings, to see what is possible when it comes to latency and picture quality.
I forgot to mention about foveated rendering - apologies - this reduces the quality of the image in your peripheral vision/out of the sweet spot, which reduces latency, however it clearly is something that not everyone wants/needs, and hopefully we will get the option of turning this off at some point. There has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Also, if you are experiencing crashes, there has been a suggestion that you need to check your ethernet connection is set to "public" and not "private." Mine was set to private, so I have changed to public and will be testing it over the coming days. Thanks all 👍
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00:00 Intro
00:20 Installation/setup
00:36 Wi-Fi Connection & Ethernet
00:55 Launching Steam Link
01:10 VR settings menu
01:20 Target Bandwidth
02:25 Encoded Video Size
03:05 Encryption
03:15 Show Debug Graph
03:40 Refresh Rate
04:13 Frametime
04:50 Render Resolution
05:38 Advanced Supersample Filtering
06:10 Overlay Render Quality
06:22 fpsVR
06:36 Motion Smoothing
07:38 Maximising quality/Latency
08:43 Crashes
08:52 Outtro
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I forgot to mention about foveated rendering - apologies - this reduces the quality of the image in your peripheral vision/out of the sweet spot, which reduces latency, however it clearly is something that not everyone wants/needs, and hopefully we will get the option of turning this off at some point. There has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Also, if you are experiencing crashes, there has been a suggestion that you need to check your ethernet connection is set to "public" and not "private." Mine was set to private, so I have changed to public and will be testing it over the coming days. Thanks all 👍
all the steam games I had issues with have been resolved with steam link, no mans sky VR is now great!!
Overall nice and got on point video. Did learn me more on what to look for, ty.
No problem, glad it was useful 👍
Absolutely superb video and explanation. Thank you
@@kscott6686 Thank you, glad you liked it 👍
Brilliant job!! The best I have seen!
Thank you! Glad it was useful 👍
Thank you so much man. My shit was running like awful but soon as I put some stuff to auto it ran perfectly.
Awesome, glad you got it working, enjoy 👍
Another great video 👍 just what I was after
Great information. Thank you so much
No problem, glad it was useful 👍
Thx for the great video and explaining this. Tomorrow I get my quest 3 I will test it on my steam account.
Awesome, enjoy your Quest 3! 👍
So glad I got Steam Link. Always had issues with Air Link and didn't want to buy Virtual Desktop. With Air Link, it was literally impossible to play Skyrim or Fallout VR. Both games would stream horribly for no reason, and I didn't have a solution. Tried it with Steam Link, and it both looks and plays fantastically. Very happy with it.
Good explanation! Thx!
Thanks, hope it has been helpful! 👍
This helped a lot. Thank you.
No problem, glad it was useful 👍
This dude just always release the exact video i need.. first about discounted qpro and now steamlink detailed discussion 🎉
THANK YOU!
Your voice is so amazing, like your video! Thanks! Subscrived!
Thanks, the recording on this seemed to go well, sometimes I can record it and play it back and not like the pace or how upbeat I am. More videos to come so thanks for subscribing 👍
I was playing some Audioshield, a classic VR title (beatsaber like), but whenever I used either SteamVR or Oculus's Air Link, I would get stuttering/delay in my movement, I am now of course using Steam Link exclusively and the settings you recommended for beatsaber worked great for it. Thank you!
TL;DR: This guide is good, listen.
@@tradersblankers2931 awesome, glad it helped, enjoy 👍
This guy could have a radio voiceover career it’s so cool
Thanks 😀
thank you, the video is perfect
mine says that i cannot connect because im connected to my router wirelessly, what do i do?
Well that was a very helpfull video, being to the point like this is quite rare nowadays on CZcams. Thanks :)
Thanks for the feedback 👍
You're back!! Where did you go dude. Your potential is sky high. Please make more videos. I see you changing your channel to not VR specific but PC tech in general. You would have so many subscribers.
I agree !
Thanks, I really would love to do more videos, and am hoping that as the channel grows I have more options to start doing this more full time than in my spare time. I have considered covering wider tech, and I probably will at some point, thanks for the comment 😀
@@DayDreamerVR I could gather you have a busy life like everyone but just my opinion if you upload more and review more tech, you'll be huge.
@@willchongwei Thank you 😄
i am having some issues getting the meta quest pro controllers to function properly on 2D flat games on the big theater when in the STEAM LINK App on Quest Pro. i am using Oculous connect as the launching bridge between headset and PC headset and PC are connected via usb. any ideas how to get controllers to work right?
Hi, sorry you've been having this issue, I've done some searching online but can't find the same issue or a solution. It might be worth asking on a discord channel such as MRTV's Quest Pro one which can be found on the link below. Hope you manage to get it sorted 👍 discord.com/invite/NxaERZdt
Very helpful video explaining some of the settings I wasn't sure about. Also big kudos for recommending an FPSVR. I was looking for an onscreen monitoring software for VR.
fpsvr is an excellent tool, hope you find it helpful 👍
Great video! I have a question...since the Quest 3 max resolution per eye is 2064x2208, is there any use in setting a higher res on Steam-Link (e.g. 3008 pixels for Project Cars)? That would only make sense with higher-end visors, correct? Thanks
For best image quality you need the resolution set at around 3000 x 3000 due to the process the software does to correct for the shape of the lenses (you lose some pixels in this process). The problem is with steam link is that the encode resolution has a fixed limit which is a bit lower than needed, this means only so many pixels are sent to the headset even if you set the resolution much higher on steam. So if you set it as high as 3000 x 3000, it will be more demanding on your PC but won't send that resolution to the headset, giving you almost no visual benefit. Virtual Desktop can send more pixels to the headset, and should therefore give the best image with the Quest 3, or Oculus Link will also be pretty good. Setting the resolution higher in PCVR headsets like the PICO Neo 3 Link does have the full benefit. Steam Link however does use fixed foveated rendering which means more pixels are in the centre of your view than the outside edges, some people prefer this as it helps reduce latency, some people hate the slightly blurrier edges.
I'm curious what's the correct setting for steam resolution. If you have the slider in the oculus PC app render res set to max. Like you there's a notch on the render res slider at 150%. Is 100 lower than that? Is 150 supersampling or does the notch indicate that's where it should be for the headset?
100% in steam will be whatever you set the resolution to on the oculus slider. They haven't however increased the resolution in the oculus software, so the maximum resoution in the oculus software isn't quite providing the full resolution to the panel, but, the oculus setting does set the encode resolution. So 100% in steam is the same res as in the oculus software, and increasing the res in steam does increase the encode res to the headset, so you are still not quite getting the full resolution to the Quiest 3. Increasing the resolution above 100% in steam does help slightly though, as it gives a more accurate sample when it then converts it to the encode res, but ideally meta need to increase the maximum resolution in the oculus software to allow the full resolution to be provided to the Quest 3 when it is encoded. Hope that makes sense 😬
Great breakdown, thank you.
Any idea if the frame rate and render resolution settings affect flat games in the same way? I'm trying to get flat games working nicely on a big ol' virtual screen, but im not so sure what's happening.
The settings might affect running a flat screen game over the desktop view, but the Steam VR environment takes very little to run it so it shouldn't have that much of an impact. If you are experiencing latency or other issues I would keep the overlay setting I mention as High, but then drop the target bandwidth and see if that helps. Hope you manage to get it sorted 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Thanks heaps 👍
It says session mismatched and i cant play at all anyoen know the fix
Does the render window on the pc effect the performance in the headset? People say it doesnt but i swear i have gotten better performance by taking measures, such as reducing my monitor resloltion or hiding the render window. How can it be that i run my headset at say 80hz and the game windows is running at 120 hz and there is no impact from that? It makes no sense nor can i get a consistent result from my testing
It luckily isn't rendering it seperately twice, and usually it won't match the refresh rate of your monitor as far as I am aware-for example if you have your monitor at 144hz but vr at 72 you would see a new frame once every two frames on your monitor. That's an easy frame rate to compare but if it was 90hz in VR and 144 on your monitor then each vr frame will show the next time the monitor refreshes after the VR frame was rendered/presented. It will likely still see a very small amount of extra load having it on your monitor, but it will be small. If your monitor or monitors are stuck at their full refresh rate all the time with a high resolution then that alone will put extra load on your system. So if you lower the resolution or frame rate of your monitor that could save some gpu/cpu etc for VR. Hope that helps 👍
Im building new pc but do i still need monitor everytime i play game using Quest 3 and also to turn off pc?
I would recommend having a monitor, even just a basic one so you can launch steamvr if using steam link. Once you're connected to steam link, you can look at your desktop in steamvr and turn off your PC without needing to look at your actual monitor
I don’t know if I’m talking about something wrong but am I correct to say that when you use air link then steam vr your essentially processing twice as much but if you use the steam link app your connecting directly without the meta software required?
Interesting thought, I don't quite know how it works, but the load is roughly the same for steamvr no matter whether you use airlink, or steam link 👍
I have an issue some of my vr games such us phasmophobia appear in 2d screen when I launch them with steam vr is there any way to fix it?
Do you have the option to launch them in VR from your pc? If you do then launch it from there and it should transfer to your headset if you are in the steamvr environment 👍
3:15 - Whoa wait, how do you get those desktop/monitor icons to switch to your desktop? I only have the Steam icon down there.
That's weird, I don't know why they wouldn't be showing, if I figure it out/find anything I'll update 👍
@@DayDreamerVR I'm 99% sure it's the Desktop+ app in Steam. After some Googlin' I found that result. I now have it installed and have those desktop icons (and a plus symbol). Definitely worth mentioning, perhaps also along with the Dashboard > "VR Dashboard on System Button" setting to "On" so that pressing the little 3-bars button will allow the user to open the main Steam Link page that has those desktop buttons for very quick access to your computer. 👍
@@gregariousjb thanks for the update, that's good to know, and I'm glad you got it sorted 👍
Is there a way to adjust the brightness with some games on steam link? I play vrchat alot and steam link makes the low lit maps look too dark.
There are a couple of ways to check, but I'm guessing you are at maximum brightness already. First check your headset settings in the Quest home environment, check your brightness is maxed out. Then get OVR Advanced Settings in Steam (I think it is free?), then go into Steam Link, and launch OVR advanced settings. I think under one of the sections - might be video? there is a brightness slider, make sure it is at 100%. Hopefully one of those is turned down so you can turn it up. I haven't played VR Chat, I'm guessing there isn't a brightness slider in the game? If I think of anything else to check I will update. Hope you manage to sort it 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Brightness is set to max on the headset and in game. Even on my monitor it shows the proper brightness. but not on steam link. Imma try OVR advanced and see if it helps
@Breonnick Hope you manage to sort it 👍
How do it get it to use my Q3 mic? I feel iv tried everything and all settings.
There has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." I don't know if this will also work with audio output, could be worth switching that to manual. Hope that helps 👍
When I connect to my PC, my headset video is awful and I can’t make anything out, so I can’t even check the VR settings. It allows me to look around but it freezes the picture in place, if that makes sense
I think if you take your headset off, on your desktop you will see the steamvr window which will show your headset is connected, I can't remember exactly how off the top of my head but if you right click the top left of that window on a menu icon or something it allows you to look at settings. If you go to the steamvr tab at the bottom, check what the settings are at. Can I confirm though that your pc is connected by an ethernet cable to your router, your headset is connected over 5GHz on your router, and you are close and in direct line of sight to your router? Also what gpu/pc specs do you have? Hope you manage to sort it 👍
Hi pro I need help please 😟
I'm confused and don't know what to buy
Quest 3 or xreal air 2 pro?
They are very different devices. If you want to game, and use it for work or to watch content, then the Quest 3 is the best option. If you just want to use a device to have a larger screen, then the Xreal Air will do that 👍
This is a noob question as I am new to vr and using a occulus 2 on a pc that has a rtx 4060 and i5-12400f. First game I tried was propagation vr through steamvr and the fps and quality on my desktop is amazing during the game but my vr quality is bad. It feels like its at a lower fps and hz. Like there is a delay with my hand movement but the streaming to my desktop there is no delay. Is that just how vr is or am I missing a setting? I would think it would look at least a little better and run a little closer to how my game is running on my desktop.
Edit: also the occulus app says to hook the cable to a 3.0 usb port but it is a 3.0 usb port...
So VR should be a smooth experience in the headset, just like on the PC. So you are using a usb cable to connect to the PC through Oculus Link. I would get fpsvr, and then when your are in the Oculus Link home page (before opening a game, open Steam VR, and then open your game from in Steam VR. This way you can look at/open fpsVR and look at the performance stats. You need to make sure that your CPU and GPU are managing to meet the frame time (graph in fpsvr should be green). You also need to check in fpsvr that your gpu and cpu usage isn't maxed out near 90-100%. You can also see if any frames are dropped. With all of this info you can then adjust your resolution and frame rate so your system can cope with it. You should also test your usb link in the Oculus app, hopefully it confirms you are using USB 3.0 (that the cable and USB port are 3.0) and the connection speed. I hope this helps and hope you manage to sort it 👍
@@DayDreamerVR the cable is the original oculus cable and my pc says it’s 3.0. But the app says that it is not 3.0 but I am using a small usb adapter to be able to connect it to my pc. I ordered a longer cable that already has a usb but won’t be in until Friday. I still didn’t think an adapter would change anything though.
@@MagicalAlpaca Yeah, unfortunately if the adapter isn't 3.0 then it will reduce it to whatever USB standard it is (2.0/1.0). In your Oculus install folder, you should find a tool called the Oculus Debug Tool, if you open that then you can also select performance graphs at the bottom of the tool. This will also help you to see what is going on performance wise. I hope the cable manages to sort it for you though 👍
Do you know why changing refresh rate to 120hz is not working? Like, i set it to 120hz in Steam Link settings, but Debug Graph is still showing 72hz HMD refresh rate. 120 hz setting is switched on in the Quest system settings too.
That's weird, I don't know why it's doing that, if I manage to find anything out I'll update 👍
Oh, i just needed to reboot the headset after changing the 120hz setting on in quest. Now it's working as intended. @@DayDreamerVR
@@hashturner awesome, glad you got it sorted, enjoy 👍
Mine says something about a code 301 I think still having trouble think I need to get a new graphics card
Hi, I don't know if you have tried what this post suggests, but it could be worth a read, there are a couple of different suggestions in it about how to fix the 301 error www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4ip2x8/how_to_fix_steamvr_error_301_steam_support_just/&ved=2ahUKEwjowZXt16-GAxVMQkEAHTVkCacQjjh6BAgfEAE&usg=AOvVaw0xScXWibC4JPkD25VDEMMW
Hope it works for you 👍
Some great information here.
I’ve found a decent sweet spot for my system with a 7900xtx over 6e of:
220 bitrate
1280 encode
90 fps
Resolution game depending but I typically leave it at 100%
Let me know if you have any recommendations.
My graphics card is 1060. What would be the best settings for steam link?
For steam link I would probably put it around 1700x1700 (or roughly whatever that would be) for the resolution, 72fps, bitrate keep on auto, encode res keep on auto. Then see how that performs whilst monitoring something like fpsvr and put the resolution up or down depending on whether your PC is managing it. With a 1060 though I would probably recommend using virtual desktop, and turn on synchronous space warp. This will allow you headset to create half the frames, and your PC the other half, and you will be able to put your graphics settings higher. Hope that helps 👍
When I try running Steam Link on my desktop with AMD card I always get the same error you get at 8:52. It works on my nVidia laptop though. Did you find a workaround for that issue?
It has been suggested that it was because my ethernet connection was set to "private" and it needs to be set as "public." I have changed this settings and will be testing it over the coming days, hope that helps 🤞
@@DayDreamerVR Hm, thanks! It does not make sense to switch my local home network to being public. I'll wait for a fix from them then.
I have an issue: I don’t have audio. I tried everything, but for some reason steam link doesn’t stream audio to my headset.
There has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Hope that helps 👍
did you experience problems with your audio setting after installing steamlink? microphone and headset speakers?
I haven't experienced any issues, but there has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Hope that helps 👍
Thanks for the video mate, really helpful.
No problem, glad it was useful 👍
I have a problem where i mucked around with a setting in steam vr and now it has delayed everything by like 20 seconds and slowed down everything. And i’ve been painfully trying to find the option i messed with so I can make the vr work properly again but i just can’t find it. It’s been driving me insane please help.
I would recommend deleting steam VR in steam, and reinstall it, and hope that resets your settings, it shouldn't affect any games etc, hope that helps 👍
Is steam link better than virtual desktop ? For half life lynx on quest 3
If you need motion smoothing or the superresolution upscaling then Virtual Desktop will be better, otherwise I would say that Steam Link is simpler to use, but it does have foveated rendering which makes the peripheral vision slightly less clear - but it improves your latency by doing that 👍
Im quite confused. I own a pc with an i9 13900k processor and a 4090 and my system is struggling to maintain the proper frame timings running at 120hz. Ive been at this for weeks and I cannot get my vr games to run well at all. I have a system that should be able to keep up at least much better than it currently is.
At 120hz the frame timings are tiny, which means you really need to drop the graphical settings very low. I would recommend reducing the resolution very very low, see if that gets the frame time to a manageable amount, then increase it slowly. I have a 4090,and I have my settings and resolution high, but only run at 72hz, so my frame times can be almost twice as long as yours at 120hz,and I'm pushing my frame times to the limit.
One other note to if steam is using h265 encoding unless something's different I think this setting is just a target, I'm not sure what it's actually pushing. On wifi 6e I get microstutter after 250mbps. I think the vd creator said that's about as much as the quest 3 chip can decode yet without crazy latency. I'm not sure how people could run it at anymore if that's a quest hardware limitation? Although someone said they have it at 350 but it doesn't go over 250 in reality? Have you tested this with any software overlay?
So i don't know exactly what the limit of H265 with the Quest 3 is, but VD set a maximum of 200Mbps for h265, and steam link sets the max at 350. The higher you go the more latency there is as you have mentioned. I don't get any stuttering at 350 on steam link on a standard WiFi 6 router, but this can be impacted by numerous factors (interference, number of devices on the band, distance from the router etc). Steam link, under vr settings has the option for a performance overlay, if you turn this on and then look at your desktop in steam you can see the performance (bitrate is at the very top left) and I then pin the desktop view to my left controller. Then checking in a game such as Half Life Alyx, it tends to vary mostly from about 290 to 320, but from a quick couple of minutes playing I did see it very briefly go up to 338. In menus etc it seemed to stay around 290Mbps. With steam link, it uses foveated rendering so your peripheral view has less detail, which brings the latency lower than would be expected for 350Mbps. Hope that helps 👍
@@DayDreamerVRinteresting you mentioned you seen yours go above 250 in the debug graph I think your mentioning? I don't see it and someone else online doesn't see it either. They also mentioned they don't see it go above 250. Maybe just went you start out or loading but then mine levels off below 250 slightly. And I get a slight micro when I'm walking in alyx (maybe your teleporting) at 350.
I'm using Asus 7800 wifi 6e, 6ghz channels. Curious what all your other steam settings are set to? I also assume your just on 5ghz?
With all the wifi issues on quest 3 though I'm just really not sure. There's 80 pages on the quest forum with latency issues.
@@DayDreamerVRyeah really weird I see it go above just briefly after loading but when it settles in game at least two sections I seen it sits below 250 slightly. And the weird extra microstutter it adds when walking in alyx (not teleporting). I also have a 4080.
@@DayDreamerVRI can also do 600mbps ok h264 over airlink for oculus games so really not sure on this one.
@@montys8237 yeah, H264 can even go higher, you can set it to 960Mbps by copying and pasting the text "960" into the bitrate section in the Oculus debug tool.
I was comparing Steam Link to Virtual desktop and even on the highest settings steam link had better performance in terms of latency which is very low and much higher frame rates but still worse image quality then VD , VD on the other hand looks much crisper but also performs alot worse in terms of latency and framerates on my PC i dont know why though.... i912900K, 32GB DDR 5 RAM @6200mhz and a RTX 4090, connection is realized over a TP-Link Archer AXE75 Wi-Fi 6E Router.
Does anyone know why this would be??
My guess is that on VD im using the AV1 Codec for Quest3 and the sharpening filter which both are not working on steam link right?
Steam Link uses foveated rendering, this means the resolution is lower in your peripheral vision, which reduces latency and increases fps. Steam link also doesn't go as high as VD with the resolution being rendered, or the resolution being sent through the data stream which again boosts fps and reduces latency, but both these things reduce image quality. Virtual Desktop is more capable when it come to image quality, but you would have to put the settings lower than steam links to get the same latency or fps. Hope that helps 👍
Steam vr is using my cpu's integrated graphics. How do i switch to my gpu?
If you search in the windows toolbar for "graphics" then select graphics settings which should show up in the results, you can then select an app, click options and select the gpu. So select steam, steam vr and any games you are running that are using the igpu and set them to your dedicated gpu. You might have to add an app at the very top of the page if it isn't in the list. You can also do this in the nvidia control panel if you have an nvidia gpu, but I'm not at my pc to see exactly where/give directions to it. Hope this helps though 👍
I have a Laptop 3050 rtx gpu, i want to play half life as best as i can. What settings should i use ?
I would try the lowest settings possible in the game, and in steam link, and then slowly increase them. Virtual desktop or Oculus Link might be better though as asynchronous space warp will significantly reduce the demand on your PC, but steam link doesn't have that option from what I can remember
Great video and channel, i see u have doubled ur subs in a few days, good luck man, great stuff
Thank you, looking forward to seeing how I can develop the channel over the coming months 👍
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Thanks, I use them as my autocue - and to hide the tiredness and bags under my eyes! 🤣
I am trying to download steam link in Meta Quest 2 but i dont know why there's no download button. its only said its purchased, but i havent got the app downloaded in the system yet
Weird, I just took a look at mine on the Quest, and went to the store and it should stay "start" in the store once it is installed. Or as usual you should be able to find it in your app library on your headset. I take it you are refering to the app not being able to install within the headset and not trying to do it from your phone Oculus app store? Hope you manage to get it sorted 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Yeah i haven't been able to install it in my Quest 2 since there's no button for it. there's only this loading circle that just goes on forever.
@@NixTheNixied Some users have experienced an issue such as this when there Quest 2 isn't upto date. Check in the settings if there is a system update available for your Quest, and if you do, then updating might fix the issue - fingers crossed 🤞
@@DayDreamerVR You are right! I haven't touched my Quest 2 in 3 months, so i did the system update like you said and it finally worked. Thank you so muchh 😭
@@NixTheNixied amazing! Great news 👍
For some reason it wont launch Steam vr on my Quest 2 at all. I have done everything correctly it just wont launch. ;(
Are you launching Steam VR on your PC first, then trying to open the app in your Quest 2 and connect? Or is this issue when you click connect it won't connect/load the Steam VR home environment? I don't know a fix at the moment, but if I find anything I'll update 👍
I am having a problem with the encoded video size, I set it to manual but the slider wont go past 1024, every time i set it to 1344 it just goes back to 1024
Strange, what gpu do you have? Also is this with the Quest 2, 3 or Pro? I think it's related to the encoder on your GPU though = I found this which indicates some gpu's are maxed out at 1024 help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0E2C-406B-9135-38A4
@@DayDreamerVR I have an rx 7900xt and a quest 2 im guessing that this is one of those gpus?
@teaock5636 From what I can see, all AMD gpu's are unfortunately limited to 1024, sorry I didn't put this in the video, I didn't know until now. I found it confirmed here www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/11/4038102936183716861/&ved=2ahUKEwi4w4DW7vuCAxWgQUEAHY0GBigQjjh6BAgWEAE&usg=AOvVaw1YNpmu2RQ0vynEJBzGUum8
@@DayDreamerVR Stupid question but, is it possible that this is fixable in a driver update or is this more of a hardware issue?
@@teaock5636not a stupid question at all - unfortunately in this case it is a hardware limitation, so it not possible to get around it in any way
I can’t find the steam link option on the vr settings
It won’t let me change my bandwidth
i need help because evertime i lauch steamlink i got a error its say host not responding pls help
There are a couple of things that could be causing this. Try changing your network connection from private to public. If it then works then the issue is likely your firewall blocking the app, so it is then worth checking app firewall permissions. Make sure your headset doesn't have any outstanding system updates, and update if you do. Make sure your GPU is on the latest software. Hope one of these helps and you get it sorted asap 👍
okay iwill try to update my drivers thanks
@@DayDreamerVR
I need help because when I try to connect it I keep getting stuck on the stream connecting screen and for a couple of minutes it crashes. Could you find a solution for this
Is your PC connected to your router with an ethernet cable? Are you connected from your headset to your router with a 5GHz network?
Oh I forgot to do that. Thanks for the reminder!
No problem 👍
@@DayDreamerVR how do i get a 5ghz network my wifi is 2.4ghz
@@iconsumepizza Does your router support 5ghz? It is worth checking the router specifications online. Or if you go onto a Web browser and access your routers settings - you will have to type the ip address of your router which is usually on your router or type in 192.168.1.1 as the Web address in your browser. Then you will need to login to it, either with a password you decided or there might be one on your router. Then look at SSID or wireless settings. It will hopefully say if you have 2.4 and 5ghz here. It is worth giving your 5ghz signal a different name to the 2.4 one. That way you can make sure you are connected to the 5ghz band. Hope that helps 👍
Excellent Video!!
What router model you recommend?
Thanks 😀 I would probably still stick to the recommended routers in the virtual desktop discord as they are tried and tested for wireless PCVR 👍 (I tried the opal one though and would personally stay away from it as I didn't get good performance for signal. I don't use one on this list, I have the ASUS TUF Gaming AX3000 V2 and it works well.
From VD Discord:
The following routers have been reported to work reliably from a number of users.
Sole/Upgrade (AX) - Asus RT-AX86U ($300 US)
Dedicated (AXE - Wifi 6e *) - TP-Link AXE5400/AXE75 ($160-$200)
Dedicated (AX) - Netgear WAX202 ($60 US)
Portable (AC) - Opal GL-SFT1200 ($50 US)
Dedicated (AC) - TP-Link Archer C6 or A6 ($40 US)
TP-Link AX and Huawei routers have been known to have issues we are unable to identify. Higher end TP-Link AX/AXE routers not listed here may work well but as with any router not on this list, should be considered untested.
@@DayDreamerVR Thank you very much!
I am in the U.S. and have Comcast Cable at 1,200 Mbps down. I have Comcast newest router-modem. Comcast routers when stock is set to auto choose which band to use. But I can split the bands to manually pick which band I need to use for the Quest 3. So I did and selected the 6 ghz band. Seems to work OK but I have not had my Quest 3 for long. No crashes using the Quest. But more time will tell if that holds up. Just thought I would mention it since so many people are on Comcast in the U.S. But I see no need to change my modem router at this time.
But......Will it connect to a steam deck? Play flat screen in quest?
There are a few ways to do it, but potentially the best way is to install the app Sunshine on the Steam Deck, and then sideload Moonlight onto the Quest. More info can be found here: www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/175rsxo/display_steam_deck_on_quest_3/ Hope that helps 👍
I’m having an issue where I use steam link and my audio doesn’t come through how do I fix this
To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Hope that helps 👍
@@DayDreamerVR I tried that and still nothing :(
@@TrevinF98 how frustrating, if I find something else I'll update 👍
So it was good until I got half life Alex it’s so laggy it turns off and comes back on when I’m in the game and the resolution is just horrible if 1 pixel I really need help to fix it cause I got this to have fun and wasted 20 dollars on a game that you can’t play sucks so please help me and I can’t even click the menu that’s how bad it is
What graphics card do you have? Are you connected to a 5GHz band on your router with your headset and is your PC connected to the router with an ethernet cable? What router is it that you have? I would recommend keeping the encode res and bitrate in automatic, and set the steam vr resolution to 100% whilst testing. Then I would recommend getting fpsvr and checking in the game that nothing is showing as orange/red and seeing how many fps you are getting and what your gpu and cpu usage is like. You can also check the debug graph from steam link on your desktop, the latency graph is on the bottom half of the graph and your frame rate, and bitrate are at the very top left of the debug window. It can be difficult to find the issues, but it's worth it to keep trying, you can do it and hopefully you'll be playing HLA properly in no time 👍
My only question is where do I type in the code for steam link?
If you have steam and steam vr open on your PC, another window should open that asks for the code 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thank you 👍
How connect steam link by cabel ??
You can't do it by cable unfortunately. I think you can connect the Quest 3 with a USB c ethernet adapter, and connect the ethernet cable to your router though👍
Is 200 mbits good ? Because that is what I get my high is 215
Yes 200 is good, especially for roomscale games. The highest possible bitrate is best for racing and flight sims, to decrease compression artifacts, but a higher bitrate would increase latency. You should barely notice the compression artifacts in other games at 200Mbps 👍
What was the reasons for steam link crashs ?
There has been a suggestion that it is because your PC's ethernet connection is set to "private," and works better if it is set to "public." I have checked mine and it was set to private, so I have set it to public and will do some testing 👍
im stuck with the video encoder issue. how do i fix it?
Which video encoder issue are you having? Make sure Encoded video size is set to manual and to 1344 for the best image 👍
@@DayDreamerVR When I use it on the app it says that it disconnects and i need a video encoder. I already have an app for it, Im trying to buy one right now.
@@一一一君の心に向かって全 what graphics card do you have? That would be unusual for it not to have an encoder built in, and it's part of the hardware, but it might only have an H265 encoder, not H264 which is what it would need
@@DayDreamerVR Gigabyte Gaming RX 6500XT
@@一一一君の心に向かって全 unfortunately the 6500xt doesn't have H264 encoding, only H265. So at the moment whilst you can't change it in steam link, you won't be able to use steam link. Virtual desktop will probably be your best option as you can change the type of codec/encoding. Hope that helps 👍
Does Steam link work on AMD GPUs
From what I can find online Amd gpu's are not recommended for steam link vr. They are testing and working on it, and some may work but generally it will be best to use Virtual Desktop or Oculus Link for the moment
Does this mean I can now play half life lynx from PC on my Quest 3?
Yes, you can play Half Life Alyx over Steam Link 👍
@@DayDreamerVR virtual desktop better?
@@gurugamer8632 If you need motion smoothing or the superresolution upscaling then Virtual Desktop will be better, otherwise I would say that Steam Link is simpler to use, but it does have foveated rendering which makes the peripheral vision slightly less clear - but it improves your latency by doing that 👍
So everything is alright mostly, apart from the video quality. because everytime I load up steam link wiressly the video quality is so terrible and I can barely read and see stuff on screen.
That must be really frustrating, do you have your bitrate and encode res on manual or auto and what does the debug graph show for your bitrate and encode res (shown at the very top left of the performance window on your PC)? Also what resolution have you got it set to? Also what is your gpu (just so I know what settings you could run it at). It should be roughly just as good as Virtual Desktop for image quality
@@DayDreamerVR Im not on the vr right now ill tell all that later but the gpu is a nvidia geforce gtx 1050
ok so I mightve done something but right now the quality is fixed! but i dont know if its temporary
well its not perfect like because its air link
@@BrickEat With your GPU I would probably recommend using Oculus Link or Virtual Desktop and using a setting called asynchronous space warp or synchronous space warp (asw/ssw). Your PC will do half the frames and your headset will do half of them. This allows you to put your graphics settings higher. Unfortunately steam link doesn't have this option/setting yet. Glad you have managed to get it working though for the moment, enjoy 👍
@@DayDreamerVR well sometimes the res can drop on steam vr but it mostly works
Is this better than using meta air link?
I would say it is better than air link, and more simple and straightforward than virtual desktop, however steam link does foveated rendering which reduces latency but makes your peripheral vision a bit less clear, so virtual desktop can have the clearer image of the three 👍
@@DayDreamerVR interesting and thank you for the explanation. We used VD when we were connecting to our laptop with a 1650.
Didn't think to use it when we upgraded to a 3080.
Now were looking for the best recommendation for both. I always assumed less apps running would be best but I guess it depends on the cpu.
Not sure I understand the difference between frame time and latency. You mention that 20ms for latency is good for HL Alyx, but with frame time needing to be 12.5ms for 80fps, I’m confused what latency figures you are referring to. Sorry if it’s a noob question
That's a really good point. So the frame time is how long it takes for your pc to generate an image. Then it needs to be Encoded by your gpu to make it small enough to send over WiFi. The it will be transferred via WiFi, and decoded by your headset. The total time it takes for your pc to create the image, and the time it takes to encode/send/decode is the total amount of latency. So when something happens, if your total latency from start to finish is 30ms,then you will see that something happen, 30ms after it actually did. When you finally get that image, if your pc is stable and the transferring is stable, then you should see each frame at regular intervals/spacing with around the same amount of latency 👍 hope that makes sense
@@DayDreamerVR brilliant, thank you. So GPU frame time is only one part of the overall latency from start to finish.
I’m fairly new to VR, and it seems like an art to balancing everything, rather than an exact science. I’ve been using frame time as the guide for optimising fps performance and resolution, but perhaps I need to look at latency also, as this will include bitrate encoding size etc.
@@grantharper6409 There's alot to consider, but the frame times must be on time for a good experience (other wise frame can be inconsistent which can cause you to feel ill), other latency can be to your own preference. I really like making the most of image quality, so I put up with higher overall latency where I can. If you are doing competitive gaming or sim racing where reaction times can be critical, a lower overall latency can be more crucial, welcome to VR-enjoy 👍
I have a 3060. I just leave everything to auto and everything runs pretty dang smooth. Much better than airlink and quest link
Awesome, glad it's working well for you 👍
Me too! Especially with steam having better prices on games than meta store. Being able to run this makes it much more worth it!
great but how do you fix lag
@@Kjstayvibinn reduce the bitrate, reduce the resolution, make sure you are connected to a 5ghz band on a good router which is connected to your PC with an ethernet cable. Turn down the settings in your game. These are just some general options, but once you have solved the lag you can fine tune graphics etc. I'd recommend using fpsvr to monitor the cpu and gpu usage and frame times until the lag is reduced/removed.
I couldnt get mine to work. Wouldnt connect to PC
Did you manage to get this sorted? Only things I know of is to set your PC's Internet connection to public to see if that helps, if it does then there is something likely being blocked by your firewall, so try and give the app permission. And make sure your headset software is fully up to date. Make sure in your steam settings that remote play is enabled. Make sure steam and steam vr are open on your PC when you try to connect. Hope you manage to sort it 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thanks for reaching out. Not yet but I was also in a hotel traveling for work so it was on crappy wifi. Now that I'm home I'll give it another shot in a few days.
@@PortsUnknown7783 no problem, hope it works well for you when you retry 👍
For me the biggest problem is . I have 0 or 2% haptic feedback in my controllers when playing beatsaber or synth riders. 97% of the time no haptic feedback at all. That problem I don't have with Virtuel desktop
That's not good, if I find any fixes I will update 👍
@DayDreamerVR that would be awsome
I’m not pc savvy. I got a 3070ti , what’s the best settings to run Alyx? It seems to run ok, I’m just looking to optimize it
HL Alyx on a 3070ti can run most settings on High. Using a mobile 3070ti it runs beautifully
@rangerkayla8824 thanks for the feedback, I will consider different gpu's in my future videos, apologies 👍
It doesn't work. I got the app, opened it and I see my pc, I hit connect, It gave the code, I entered it on pc and then the Steam Link app closes out.
It's worth double checking that your Quest software is fully upto date and that nothing is pending. Same for your GPU drivers, but try quest software first. Also turn your Pc's Internet connection from private to public-if that solves it then your firewall might be blocking the software, allow permissions for it with your firewall and switch back your connection to private. Hope you manage to get it sorted, if I find anything else/think of anything else I'll update 👍
@@DayDreamerVR I updated GPU driver a couple weeks ago, I got 1660 super, had 1050ti, I can check again.
I'll check headset updates.
I've been using VD for years and meta software on pc works fine. We have two headsets, it does the same thing on the other.
@@LinkSquish I take it you already have steam vr running on your PC? Also check that Steam vr doesn't need updating in steam. Private to public setting for your Internet connection is still worth trying, and gpu drivers, and also check remote play is enabled in steam. Hopefully we can figure this out 👍
I have looked at remote play before. I updated my graphics driver, there was an update. I looked into quest update, I'm on the latest. I looked in firewall, it's public. And still the app in the headset closes out right when you hit connect. My pc mainboard is ASUS Tuff Gaming Z690-Plus with Intel i9 12900K. Drive C is 1tb WD Black NVMe SSD. Yes Virtual Desktop and the Oculus app works perfectly fine, they've worked fine for years.
Edit..... I built this PC myself year and a half ago. Also I got Corsair 32gb RAM 3600MHz
My steam link kept crashing as well. It turned out that My ethernet connection was set to private, instead of public. I guess it was just shutting down steam vr and air link as well. try checking that out if you keep getting crashes.
Thank you, I'll take a look as it is happening more than I would be happy with to use it regularly if it carries on 👍
@@DayDreamerVR now, I've got to figure out why zero cal has no audio when every other game has audio.
@@AndrewStonerock How weird, if I think of anything/find anything I'll let you know 👍
@@DayDreamerVR it's wild. The audio is there in air link, but not steam link. I switched the audio devices in the desktop tab, as well as the audio section VR settings. I'm not sure what the issue is. Maybe zero cal just isn't compatible.
Several of my games don’t have audio
I feel like my games look "foggy" using Steam Link. The app is new enough I havent been able find anyone else saying the same thing. I have a high end PC and wifi 6e. 🤷
As long as your encode resolution is at its maximum, your resolution is reasonably high, and your PC is connected with ethernet and your WiFi is coping with the bitrate, it should be pretty clear. There is however foveated rendering which you can't turn off. This reduces the resolution in your peripheral vision, making it not as clear as the centre of your view,which could be the cause of what you're experiencing, hopefully we'll get the option to turn it off at some point 👍
Encoded Video Size is really a foveated rendering parameter. The higher the number the narrower reduced image quality peripheral area.
Yeah, I forgot to mention foveated rendering but added it to the pinned comment. The Encoded resolution width still seems very low though even with foveated rendering. It does help with pc load and latency, but I know some people would prefer foveated rendering to be able to be turned off, maybe in a later update. Also Encoded video size is still a factor on other apps when not doing foveated rendering, it determines the size/quality of the stream 👍
@DayDreamerVR Fully agree. I am surprised we still do not have it implemented. Number one SteamVR bug for me.
I have an AMD GPU. Everything looks blury even tho my resolution and bandwidth is the highest
Is your encode width set to manual 1344? If I think of anything I'll update but hope you manage to find a fix 👍
@@DayDreamerVR yeah, it’s just that AMD GPU’s always have problems with airlink
@oldfoxy33 Sorry to hear that, I was aware Amd have never quite been as compatible as Nvidia, but it's a shame as the GPU's are good value. Hopefully they work better after a few updates with Steam Link 👍
Steam link crashes for me everytime a level loads in half life alyx, shame as i love the simplicity of steam link over VD, but will have to stick to VD for now
There has been a suggestion that you need to check your ethernet connection is set to "public" and not "private." Mine was set to private, so I have changed to public and will be testing it over the coming days, and hope they fix this soon 👍
@@DayDreamerVR strange have no idea why that would effect anything on a local machine
@Dirt33breaks Yeah, Virtual Desktop actually advertise the opposite, with it needing to be set to private, so it is odd. I haven't had a chance to test it yet 🤔
Can I hire you for an hour to help me setup my system for mixed reality recording? Thanks
Hi, I wouldn't be able to directly help you set it up/be hired, but am happy to help where I can and point you in the direction of some guides etc. What VR headset are you using, and is this mixed reality recording playing an app/game on a PC, or as standalone on the headset itself? What games/apps are you looking to do it with? My email address is in the channel info page, feel free to email me so we can discuss via email if that's easier 👍
@@DayDreamerVR hey thanks so much for your reply. I will email with more details. Thank Again!!!
@@DayDreamerVR Hey. Unable to find your email on your info page. Hopefully I’m not overlooking something. 🤷🏽♀️
@reginathomas9520 no problem, it is daydreamervr@outlook.com 👍
Using Wifi 6 rock solid 800mbps and both Airlink and Steam Link run beautifully but, I prefer Steam Link for most games. Still sucks I have to use Airlink for a few games as Steam Link looks much better over Airlink. Less artifacting for sure.
Still waiting on my Quest 3, but I have WiFi 6E, so very curious how it performs
Yeah, hopefully we'll get the option to turn it off at some point, could be better if really trying to make the most of lower latency, but otherwise it does reduce the image quality out of the sweet spot
Yea I've found that Steamlink looks the best of the 3 (Airlink and VD). That is, when you're looking dead center. The edge blurring is way too drastic
@HotFiya05 yeah, it's good for keeping latency low and keeping the demand on the pc lower, but image quality suffers at the edges. Would be good to have a slider to determine how much fixed foveated rendering kicks in
I'm not getting the menu in my quest 2 only the Steam "Landscape" any ideas?
Once you're in the Steam VR landscape you have to press the menu button on your left controller to bring up the Steam menu, hope that helps 👍
am i the only one not complaining about the foveated thing? it actually helps me not to get motion sickness when moving fast around
It will also help you get a smoother image as there is less demand on your PC and headset, and there will be less latency. I think it would have been good to have a choice for it on/off, as there are definitely some benefits and some negatives depending on your use. I don't mind it personally 👍
@@DayDreamerVR exactly, also you dont even get a crisp image in your peripheral view with your real eyes anyway, or idk maybe i should see a doctor. i do agree on having a choice to flip it on and off tho but i'd definitely just leave it on since it feels pretty natural to me
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What are the best setings in SteamVR for meta 2 with average pc build?
Looks like most of these settings are no longer available.
I played on steam link this evening and played with settings and didn't notice any change. Did you go to vr settings at the far bottom left, and then to steam link at the bottom left of the next menu when in steam vr? Should be there still when using steam link (not virtual desktop or Oculus Link) 👍
im just here as for some reason i keep getting ping ms spikes even tho my wifi router is right next to me in the same room and that the wifi is very good
Must be frustrating - is your PC connected to your router with an ethernet cable, and are you connected with your headset to the routers 5GHz band? Do you know what your GPU and CPU load is and do you have enough spare for more demanding scenes? You can use a tool like fpsVR for checking this. I would recommend going on to Virtual Desktop (if you have it), and testing your setup there and put the performance overlay on, this will tell you what your latencies are for each step, and the frametime of the CPU and GPU (how long it takes to make each image), this way you can start to narrow down what the issue might be. Hope this helps 👍
Steam link Has a problem "no Sound"
There has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Hope that helps 👍
I tried and it didn't helped. Need to wait for official Patch.@@DayDreamerVR
It’s laggy for me everything is connected
How frustrating, did you manage to get it sorted? If not, I take it your PC is connected by ethernet, your headset is connected to the router (which is a good quality one) on the 5GHz band? If it all is, keep your bitrate on auto, and encode resolution on auto. Hope you manage to sort it 👍
It’s not let me
Steam Link has a serious issue that makes it look absolutely TERRIBLE.
To start, its an very easy setup, pretty much instant connection, but they have implemented a blurry filter at the bottom of field of view.
Its incredibly irritating blurry filter makes VR impossible to enjoy, and increasing per eye resolution, doesn't fix it either.
I get no such issues with either AirLink or Virtual Desktop.
Funny thatyou don't even address this in your video as nothing you suggested fixes the above.
Yeah sorry I didn't mention it, it's the foveated rendering, with the encode res as high as it goes, bitrate high and resolution quite high it is still noticeable but isn't so bad that it bothers me. It also helps keep your latency lower. Hopefully we'll get the option to turn it off at some point, but for the moment if it isn't for you then Virtual Desktop is still the one to use
@DayDreamerVR I just noticed it last night while playing MSFS. The peripheral blurring is quite jarring. They definitely need the option to turn it off for those of us with high end machines. If the Q3 had dynamic FR rather than fixed, it'd be the perfect headset.
Yeah, if it had eye tracking and dynamic foveated rendering it would be excellent 👍
20ms latency is ver very good
It really is! The foveated rendering helps slightly, but it is impressive 👍
Maybe now is possible play flat competitive multi-player games like call of duty war zone or Apex.
Why is he wearing sunglasses?
@@jimboniusmaximus6018 they have screens in which I used as an autocue 👍 they are called xreal airs
@@DayDreamerVR Oh, well that’s neat.
If you want to have long-term success with your VR channel, you should take off your sunglasses. Most people find it very uncomfortable to watch people without being able to see their eyes. With sunglasses, emotions can hardly be perceived and make the other person unappealing in the long run. But that's just a tip from me, otherwise nice channel!
No worries, thanks for the feedback. They are Xreal Airs and I have a screen in them with my script as an autocue. I have tried without them but I always look knackered with bags under my eyes 🤣 I do have an actual autocue so I could give it another try without the glasses 👍
I found it funny and more appealing
I think Casey Neistat’s 12.5M subscribers would disagree with you
I think it adds more to the channel for the fact that are xr glasses. Plenty of channels out there with a persona wearing sunglasses, keep up the good work! Also I had a bad experience with steam VR app, virtual desktop is way more stable.
I think the glasses are nice bit of tech 😎