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What PC specs do you have? Have you checked the virtual desktop performance monitor of fpsvr? That should indicate whether it is a network issue or PC issue. By going down to ultra and it working, suggests your PC isn't quite managing the resolution and fps. I would recommend that if you want to use Godlike, then you need to turn other settings down if it is your pc struggling, so set the fps at 60 or 72, or set it at 90 or 120 with synchronous spacewarp on. If you already have it set to this then you might need to reduce other game settings, and make sure you are set to a resolution (if using steam vr) of 1.0 so it isn't supersampling above the Godlike resolution. It could be worth asking on the Virtual desktop discord channel about that router, and virtual desktop do recommend some themselves. Hope this helps 👍

​@@DayDreamerVRI also dropped my bitrate from 200 to 180 and set my power management in OVRserver_x64.exe to high performance just in case. Everything is so good right now 😁

​@@DayDreamerVR By the way. My specs are. Asus X570-TUF Plus gaming motherboard Ryzen 7 5800x Asus TUF Gaming LC 240 water-cooling Kingston HyperX 32 GB DDR4 3600hz Kingston NV1 1 TB M.2 NVMe SSD Asus Rtx 3080ti TUF Asus TUF Gaming GT301 VG-Edition Asus ROG Strix 750G 80+ (modular)

@@dallelama8874 Nice pc! Still worth checking the virtual desktop performance overlay and fpsvr to see how your system and network are doing. A 3080ti might not be enough for Godlike in every game depending on frame rate and other settings. I also vaguely remember that some people have had issues with that router, but I don't know if it was ever confirmed to be the router or something else, so worth double checking the virtual desktop discord. Hope you manage to sort it 👍

@@DayDreamerVR It's actually a 3 years old pc 😅 And your right, I starting to see minor problems and issues so it time for a new system soon. I give it a year maybe a little less. VR systems just need to be powerful or else you will get a bad experience. The thing you mention with the Huawei router, I actually don't like it and never had, but back then I spent like 2300$ on the pc and didn't have money for a expensive router, that's why I have such a terrible one 😅 So next step, Asus axe7800 😎🙏 Thanks for the quick and great reply ! A good weekend to you ☺️

It looks good, but I would set it to ultra in virtual desktop (which should deactivate snapdragon s resolution) that will give a better image. You might then need to turn down the super sampling, maybe to 1.2/1.3. This should give a slightly better image as before you were super sampling from the snapdragon super resolution which wouldn't have been as clear as when set to ultra. You might not notice a difference though as the gain might be difficult to see 👍

@@DayDreamerVR hey pal, I’m very appreciated the feedback. I will give it a try following your thoughts. If ya don’t mind I would like to ask you couple of questions, Tks in advanced. - Can I run in 1080p or 1440p? Will it reflects straight the VR flat experience fps? - I was tempted to install the VR Performance kit, but it just work for SteamVR games right? (Not normal flatscreen playing) I bought my Quest 2 less than week and still getting used to it, a lot of tweaks here and there, I’m kind newbie in how it works n behaves in depth, but I will get there once a while I’ve been surrounded by “computer things” my entire life.

​@@GoMArkkrAM No problem, happy to help. The VR Performance kit is just for steam VR gaming, so you won't notice a difference during flat screen gaming. I also just remembered, the streaming tab in virtual desktop will only affect VR games you are streaming, and not flat screen gaming in Virtual Desktop. If you look at the settings tab, set "use optimal resolution" and it will match your screen resolution to the resolution of the screen size in Virtual Desktop. This will give you the most FPS possible, whilst given you the highest clarity possible in virtual desktop. Play about with the settings in Virtual Desktop in the "settings" tab, these cover your environment and screen frame rate etc in virtual desktop, I have explained them at some point in this video. I hope you enjoy your Quest 2 👍

@@DayDreamerVR hey pal, ow my gosh, when I thought im figured out something everything changes, so just “settings tab” will take effect in flat games, there is no other place to tweak like (debug tools, oculus tray tool)? In game configs will take effect (like changing resolutions, MSAA, set game in Ultra or medium)? I’m feeling pretty lost again….ouch! Tks

@@GoMArkkrAM Sorry about that. So if you are using Virtual Desktop to look at what is displayed on your monitor, the settings tab, in Virtual Desktop will manage it. Your in game settings will change the look of the game, so low quality vs high etc. The resolution of your game will matter, and will be super sampling if you set your in game resolution higher than about 1920 x 1080. If you select optimal resolution in the settings tab in Virtual Desktop, it will set the resolution streamed to your headset at the best match to the amount of pixels in VR. Hope that helps, sorry :S

Hi, I don't know if you have tried what this post suggests, but it could be worth a read, there are a couple of different suggestions in it about how to fix the 301 error www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4ip2x8/how_to_fix_steamvr_error_301_steam_support_just/&ved=2ahUKEwjowZXt16-GAxVMQkEAHTVkCacQjjh6BAgfEAE&usg=AOvVaw0xScXWibC4JPkD25VDEMMW Hope it works for you 👍

Hi, hopefully this will give you the answer with some more detail: www.reddit.com/r/Xreal/s/ml0E9LgjJ9

@@DayDreamerVR Thanks!

It all depends on what resolution and other settings you have it on. Yes HLA runs well, but up your resolution and you start stressing it. The point of this though was to show how you can adjust the bottleneck between your GPU and CPU, to allow you to share the load how you would like/need or to share it more evenly to get the most out of both 👍

Glad it was useful 👍 I can't remember for certain, but I think I was recording on the headset itself and not with my PC. This could still have hurt the decoding latency on the headset due to a higher load on the headset, but it shouldn't have affected PC performance 👍

In this video I was using the Meta Quest 3. At the moment I also have a PICO 4 👍

Glad it helped 👍

Interesting thought, I don't quite know how it works, but the load is roughly the same for steamvr no matter whether you use airlink, or steam link 👍

Have you had a look at fpsvr? I would get that app on steam, and run it when using Steamvr through Virtual desktop. I would put synchronous space warp always on, and probably keep the resolution setting as low as it goes in in virtual desktop to start. Then go into steamvr, bring up the fpsvr overlay, and check what the cpu and gpu usage is. Bring up the virtual desktop performance overlay, and check all of the frame times and latency. If everything is showing as running well and keeping 36/72fps (it might show 36 due to having synchronous spacewarp (ssw)/reprojection on) try and launch your game, then monitor cpu and gpu usage, and if you get a bad experience or if the cpu/gpu usage and frame times are too high, then reduce all settings and try again. 1650s might struggle with VR, but with ssw on, and settings low you might have a chance. Hope you manage to get it running smoother 👍

@@DayDreamerVR thanks, i'll try it this way.

Sorry to hear that, I'd recommend going onto the Xreal discord to see if anyone can assist. I vaguely remember some kind of button press to do a reset, I'm not sure if it would work in your situation though. Hope you manage to get it sorted discord.com/invite/xHreYqqX

So you would need to plug your new dedicated router into your pc with an ethernet cable, and connect your Quest 3 to the 5ghz band of that new dedicated router. Then connect your old router which has internet into your new router by ethernet cable to provide Internet to your dedicated router. Your new router would be best to be setup as an access point. Hope that helps 👍 this image is a good example smartglasseshub.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/virtual-desktop-separate-router-setup.jpg

At 120hz the frame timings are tiny, which means you really need to drop the graphical settings very low. I would recommend reducing the resolution very very low, see if that gets the frame time to a manageable amount, then increase it slowly. I have a 4090,and I have my settings and resolution high, but only run at 72hz, so my frame times can be almost twice as long as yours at 120hz,and I'm pushing my frame times to the limit.

i have multiple working in immersed..........

@@warzone_clout did you use the graphics card controller to group multiple monitors into a single display? I did that too for awhile. It works better for 2 monitors than 3, text in immersed gets a bit blurry if you ask it to handle over ~3800x per display.

If you search in the windows toolbar for "graphics" then select graphics settings which should show up in the results, you can then select an app, click options and select the gpu. So select steam, steam vr and any games you are running that are using the igpu and set them to your dedicated gpu. You might have to add an app at the very top of the page if it isn't in the list. You can also do this in the nvidia control panel if you have an nvidia gpu, but I'm not at my pc to see exactly where/give directions to it. Hope this helps though 👍

I would say that if you are able to get a good connection with WiFi 6, then there would be no added benefit of getting 6e. Getting 6e would give the added benefit of the 6ghz band, which the Quest 3 can use, but the distance it can go isn't as far, and it can't go through walls/objects as easily. So if you have minimal 5ghz bands around you, and you get a good reliable signal, then there is no need, especially as vr headsets can't receive much data and decode it anyway. That might change in the next few years, but the routers etc will probably have improved by then, and be cheaper, so I'd wait until it's needed 👍

@@DayDreamerVR Thanks a lot for your answer!

Yeah, I'd still be hesitant if I hadn't got it working so well. I really like the idea of the Pimax Lite, the standalone mode on the Crystal was pointless and increased the cost. Pimax do over promise and underdeliver, however by keeping most of the stuff the same, there is a significant amount of work they won't need to do. In relation to the bulk, I only used it for racing or flight sims. So it all depends on what you want to use it for and expectations. For clarity, at the price of the Crystal lite, that might not be any other direct competitors, and the Crystal is much clearer than headsets like the Quest 3

Until recently you needed to use a PC or a Mac for the immersed app, however they have recently released an update so you can use your phone instead of a PC. I think this only works with the Visor headset, so I haven't seen how it works/looks, but it will work 👍

Thanks, I hope it was useful 👍

That must be frustrating, I take it that you have the resolution up high, along with the bitrate, and with the performance screen up and fpsvr it doesn't show any issues with latency for any part of the process? And your gpu/cpu aren't overloaded? I'd recommend going on the virtual desktop discord channel for specific support, hope you manage to get it sorted 👍

Thanks, I've made a number of concerted efforts over the last 3 years to get a decent image, without success. So I've decided to uninstall it altogether. I'm glad it works for most people.

@@davefulford8890 It could be worth trying steam link instead to see if you have the same issue there 👍

@DayDreamerVR Well, after reinstalling it and disabling ASW, I finally got it to work. It definitely provides the best wireless experience. Thanks for the support...!

@@davefulford8890 Awesome! Glad you got it working, asw creates ghosting so I try and avoid it where possible, and if you do have it come on/go off it can cause further stutters when it does. So if you need it to run a game, it is best to reduce your settings so you don't need it, or set asw to always on, so it doesn't kick in and out. Enjoy 👍

As it is really well balanced, and has the big padded top strap, it means you don't have to have it so tight to stop it moving up/down your face, and reduces pressure on your face. I also use the Pace VR fabric cover for the facial interface, and that makes the facial interface more comfortable too. With both, it does make the Quest 3 very comfortable with less pressure on your face 👍

@@DayDreamerVR what i needed to hear, i also ordered the AMVR facial interface, i think both are gonna solve my problem and finally be able to use my quest 3 because honestly i became draided to grab and use the headset like it is some plague.. and even regreted buying it at some point.

@@World.21 Hope you are pleased when you try the head strap/facial interface, definitely worth trying to get it comfortable, still one of the best vr headsets available 👍

@@DayDreamerVR i just ordered now the kiwi with battery strap aswell, i hope so thanks mate, it'll take some time to arrive like 15 days but it's ok i'll use it less and just use my ps5 more till then.

@@World.21 let me know what you think of it when you give it a try 🤞

Any phone that has a display signal across the usb C port should work, you could always ask what phones others use on the XREAL Discord, hope that helps 👍

Interesting thought, I've never tried this, but I think virtual desktop on steam is a work productivity app and is different to the Virtual Desktop VR gaming app on devices, so I don't think you would be able to use this option for VR gaming. I no longer have the XREAL glasses so am unable to look into this any further. Hopefully there might be more options with the latest XREAL glasses which have tracking cameras, but I'm unlikely to go for them at the moment 👍

You just plug in the ethernet cable to the router, and then you can turn off the WiFi on the headset to see if it works 👍

Awesome, glad it's working. If using ducting it does take alot of the power out of the fans, so would be interesting to see how you get on with 140mm deltas. I didn't use ducting in the end and had them just behind my steering wheel and use headphones which drowns out the sound. Hope it all works out for you 👍

Yeah I have had the same, it is really weird. On my current laptop, I had tearing, and I changed a load of settings and now I have no tearing at all, but the screens don't move smoothly and have tiny stutters. The problem is that I haven't managed to find out what the exact setting or combination of them got rid of the tearing. On another PC it worked perfectly on any setting. It really is weird. This has been with iGPU's for Intel and Amd, and dedicated nvidia gpu's. My 4090 doesn't work for example from the settings tried so far, but the igpu on my Intel 10600 CPU worked perfectly. You could spend so much time trying to get it to work, and it might never work, but there doesn't seem to be any clear reason.

That can be an issue with VR. If that is the case and you want to just get on with it now, I would almost recommend setting the resolution and frame rate etc low enough so that your system can run with those settings on just about any game. Then get on and game. I completely understand how difficult that is though, with my own personality traits I sometimes wonder whether I enjoy playing with the tech more than actually gaming. Can be frustrating when you look back at how you have used your time for mostly getting it to work perfectly, rather than enjoying a game which you probably would have got immersed in and not noticed a large number of aspects selected in the settings 🤔

@@DayDreamerVR I found a workable solution with the one game I play the most. Asseto Corsa. I keep all of the in game settings the same I never change them at all . I have the res slider in oculus set to max and 90hz. I then go into an online practice before the actual race. Observe my average fps in game and simply adjust the oculus refresh rate to much the in game fps for that map and car combination keeping the oculus res the same (yes it changes depending on the track and car combination). That's how crazy it is, even within the same game I get different fps depending on what is being played. But this system works for the moment. Unfortunately finding an average doesn't really work for me. Because Graphics & CPU tech is still a little behind there is not much room to play with. I have a RTX 4080. I'm not sure how well this approach will work with other games though. I think it will depend largely on the game. Sometimes I will also lock the oculus at 45hz, enable space warp, then use super sampling on quite high 1.4 or 1.6. This gives me amazing graphics and clarity but locked smooth at 45 fps. In fact if I had to decided on one approach this would be it and then I would just play with the super sampling. I never use Steam VR. Ive even tried open composite and the OpenXr toolkit. Oculus always produces better performance and image quality alone on my Quest 3. I cant stand FSR or DLS so I never use them. The image degradation is not worth it for me personally. So its either higher frames lower res or higher res lower fps.

@@simonoregan4744 Yeah, I find in sim racing, different tracks, being around loads of cars on the grid vs just a couple during a race and a number of other factors can really change the demand on a gpu during the same race, let alone different tracks etc. It really is difficult to balance, glad you have found a kind of workable solution. It almost needs a "keep my gpu at 70-85%" setting, and automatically adjust the graphics on the go at a set fps. Or something similar 🤔

@@DayDreamerVR There is a mod for one of the flight sims that does this. Not sure what its called. But from my understanding its been custom designed for that sim. I believe PlayStation does something similar as well. It maintains a constant frame rate by dynamically adjusting the games graphics settings while you are playing the game.

Ooooo Interesting, I'll have to do some searching to see if there is anything for PC generally 👍

Dust is likely to build up over time, but I don't think you will need to worry about it for a number of years. You can monitor the temperatures of the pico 4,and I think you can with meta headsets too? (haven't done either for so long). So if you are worried, you could put those performance monitors up, play something that then shows high cpu/gpu usage on the headsets performance monitors, and check the temperature. You could then repeat that every year or so until you notice temperatures are getting too high, and then it might be worth checking. But realistically I don't see it being an issue for around 5 years or more (as a complete guess). Unless you really push the headset for several hours a day

@DayDreamerVR i see, thanks!

I have looked on their site, it shows a win button on the keyboard. But from other pics online it shows a cmd button (which should do the same). I don't know if you have looked at their specific Web page, they might be able to help if the detail isn't on there. Hope you manage to sort it office.iclever.com/products/BK08-Portable-Tri-folding-Bluetooth-Keyboard-with-Touchpad

Have you checked the cpu usage etc in task manager? What are your pc specs? I have tried it on older laptops to see whether they could run it and they struggled. I also had some dust etc which I had to clear at one point on my current laptop, but apart from that the specs need to be high enough and running well otherwise it could lag/overheat

@@DayDreamerVR My laptop Ryzen 9 6800 16gb ram rtx 3050

That should cope then, it would be worth monitoring cpu and gpu usage in task manager when using immersed, and going onto the immersed discord for further support-they are very good at responding. Their discord channel can be found here: discord.com/invite/QAxqfRHw

@@DayDreamerVR Meta workrooms & both immersed overheats my laptop.

@@mohammedazeem5304 what are the cpu and gpu loads on your PC when running them? If you have just one screen in the apps how does it cope? Does your laptop overheat from other use and is there any chance that dust etc is blocking or partially blocking the cooling? Please forgive me if you are aware of these tips but could be worth a look to see if these help www.currys.co.uk/techtalk/computing/laptops/how-to-stop-laptop-from-overheating.html

The ethernet cable doesn't need power, so you could run a 5m usb cable from your headset, plug the extra power input on that cable into the wall. then use an ethernet adapter on the end of the USB cable, and connect that to the ethernet cable. I hope I have explained that correctly/understood what you hoped to do - I guess the end of your usb cable would have a male connection, so you would need a female to female adapter to connect your ethernet USB adapter, or an ethernet adapter with a female usb connection? Hope that helps, and hope it works well for you if you try it 👍

Hi, sorry you've been having this issue, I've done some searching online but can't find the same issue or a solution. It might be worth asking on a discord channel such as MRTV's Quest Pro one which can be found on the link below. Hope you manage to get it sorted 👍 discord.com/invite/NxaERZdt

Steam Link uses foveated rendering, this means the resolution is lower in your peripheral vision, which reduces latency and increases fps. Steam link also doesn't go as high as VD with the resolution being rendered, or the resolution being sent through the data stream which again boosts fps and reduces latency, but both these things reduce image quality. Virtual Desktop is more capable when it come to image quality, but you would have to put the settings lower than steam links to get the same latency or fps. Hope that helps 👍

You can use it for free with 3 screens. If you then use it for a small amount of time on consecutive days then you get the 5 screens for free. They have had options previously to buy the pro (5 screen) level, and even had it at one point if you bought their Visor headset. Most options are now subscription though unless you are happy with the free access

@@DayDreamerVR my issue is rather the low resolution of the screens, usually I set my screens to 8k or even 16k when using them in VR. The free version offers you 1080p, which is a bad joke for VR screens. Not sure if you unlock resolutions by usuage too, and not even the pro supports 8k/16k so it already is outperformed image quality wise. 4k would be the minimum which is limited to the pro version

@@DasJev all I would say is that it is worth working out how many pixels are in your view on a screen in VR. I did calculate it a while ago (sad I know) and I can't remember if that was comparing to the Q2 or PICO 4, but a 32 inch monitor in VR was slightly lower than 1920x1080 due to the resolution of the vr headset. Even a 4k vr headset is 4k for the whole of your view in one eye, so a monitor taking up part of that space will be less than 4k. Using higher resolutions will help slightly with aliasing/clarity, however the limits are currently the resolution of the vr headset, and not the resolutions in immersed. I think higher resolutions are included in their pro though, which you get access to free with consecutive days usage (over 15 mins per day). Their model does keep changing and isn't very clear which doesn't help

@@DayDreamerVR instead of calculating I would highly recommend to just try it. Text/Lines/UI/Images are a lot clearer and havr less/no shimmering left with high res settings. You can't just calculate based on headset res as you work with two overlaying rasters that are not congruent plus one is distorded which alone already requires additional source resolution for distortion correction. 1080p is maybe good enough for 720p VR Devices, but not for something like a pico, there 8k still does wonders and should be the default imo

@@DasJev I found 4k useful with the Q2, but not with the PICO 4. I wouldn't run multiple monitors at 8k. I have found that running 8k or more brought barely any improvement with a 4k per eye headset, and definitely not worth it considering the extra performance required to run it. I find 4k vr headset clear enough, and still won't be looking to use 8k for multiple monitors with it. This is unlikely to be a solution for you (pro has max of 4k per eye) . Hope you manage to find something else 👍