Has The "Cheapest" Mac Studio Turned Me?
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- It's time to answer the question. After over two months using the Cheapest Mac Studio, am I ditching my $6000 PC workstation? And if I do, should you?
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0:00 - Opener
0:20 - Intro
1:18 - Why I Did It.
3:23 - Should You Do It?
4:54 - But.. But.. Upgradability???😫
6:07 - Too Much Computer for You?
7:08 - Really Giving up on PC?
8:09 - The Rest of the Tools.
9:35 - The Big Picture.
10:38 - Conclusion
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I've never owned anything Mac. I've had my own PCs since 1990. Last August I bought a Mac Mini M1. This is all I use now. The PC sits in the corner for special stuff stuff. Since I bought the Mac Mini and shut down daily use of my PC, my household electric usage has decreased by 25%. I never turn it off, and it is so quiet that I hear myself wheezing now. :)
Wow that’s a huge drop, I think mine might be even more since the 3090 is such a power hog. I ended up selling my 3090 while they are still valuable and got a studio. Just waiting for it to be delivered in July or August some time. :/
@@s3er0i9ng It surprised me too. I didn't think my PC/monitor was that power hungry, but I did measure my Mac Mini M1 and it was 6 watts when in use and less than 1 watt sleeping. My monitor measured around 20 watts glowing. I didn't measure it when it was sleeping. The monitor isn't a gaming monitor in any sense. I bought it for the low power draw.
Also, I live alone and am very power aware. Everything gets measured. Most appliances gas.
@@daveschmarder-1950 Yah definitely! It has a knock on effect as well. All the power the pc uses gets dumped as waste heat, and in the summer I always have to run the portable ac to keep sane temps adding to the power bill and discomfort. Really excited to have a reasonably powerful pc that doesn’t suck up power.
Welcome to the Mac Side. You are much happier than watts. That’s watt matters
25%? Do you like, not turn on lights or are your lights do efficient they dont consume anything because 25% is a huge amount for a workstation
I found this channel today. I watched your “Welcome To Elevated Systems” video right before this one.
I am very inspired by your progress.
Thank you. ❤️
Great video. I hope you do make more Mac Studio content. I'd love to see you try out other capture solutions for the Mac, like for example a Decklink PCIe card in a Sonnet expansion chassis. I'm considering the quad hdmi one to replace my broken Atem Mini Pro.
My first true computer (I'm not counting the glorified word processor I started with) was an Apple IIe that I purchased in '89. I transitioned to Windows in the mid-90s when I got the gaming PC building bug. That's where I parked until I got interested in Apple again and purchased the space gray 2018 Mac mini. Now we're a multi-platform household with my wife on a Windows PC exclusively while I'm all over the map: an M1 Studio just like yours that's my primary machine, a mid 2013 13" MBP that's my project computer running macOS Catalina and Windows 10 via bootcamp, and a Raspberry Pi 4. Windows on bootcamp is important to me because, like you, I still have needed applications that will only run on an x86 machine (or that I'm too cheap to upgrade to Mac versions).
(p.s., knowing you're also a vet makes me even happier that I subscribed to your channel)
Great vid! ❤ Has the mac studio fixed the 4K display scaling issue?
I just upgraded to this from a 2015 intel iMac- which at the time was maxed out. For weeks I've been trying just to get a 30 second rough cut of a spec ad I filmed in 4K Pro Res Raw. Even with proxies enabled, background rendering turned off and playing at low quality (with no effects) , any time I cut or trimmed I'd have to wait five + minutes.The fans would kick on, sometimes the beach ball would make a cameo. I was really beginning to hate filmmaking. But with Mac Studio, it took me 20 minutes-that was with added playing around and installing programs and luts from my old Mac. The Studio was silent. It stuttered a few times but that was mainly because I was stacking effects on purpose and then trimming just to see what it would do- and even the stuttering was taken care of in just a few seconds. So I'm excited to see what this will be like when following a proper workflow. The cherry on top was what took my old Intel Mac 15 minutes and 30 seconds to export took the Mac Studio 20 seconds. Crazier still to me is that I'm not editing off the internal ssd nor any thunderbolt drives- just an old usb external hard drive. So..yeah...this is incredible to me. I would definitely not have gotten this for anything but using Final Cut Pro. Its a very specialized (pricey) tool. But dang....so fast!
damn the first 28 seconds are amazing!!!!! awesome editing!
So what about the last 11 min and 4 seconds? 😉
@@ElevatedSystems 😂 I became happy and typed it immediately after seeing the first 28 seconds..........Rest of the video 👍/👍. I enjoy your videos.
Great video, thanks! I would love to know where you got that background. Can you please provide the link? Thanks!
I was a PC user for over 40 years myself, but I switched over to Apple about 7 years ago. I was building my PC starting in 2000 and even got certified as a PC technician. My reason for switch is I like the Apple ecosystem and I am accomplishing more on actual work on an Apple computer.
Always excellent. Thanks for your hard work. Can't wait for the new videos. Blessings
Hi really glad I found your videos on the mac stuff been wondering if it was the best option. Do you feel like the M1 Max studio would perform better then the M1 Max MacBook Pro? Not sure if the extra cooling and better design would make it perform better vs the portability of the MacBook Pro?
Couldn't help but sub. If money was not an issue would you do the Mac Studio Ultra? As a PC user my entire life this middle age guy is moving over to Mac because of how much editing time I spend in Resolve. I want to buy Nice and not twice. If I can buy a mac that could last me 6-8yrs that is twice as long than the average pc has lasted me. Keep up the excellent content!
I've been using an Mac Mini M1 for creating overlays, title screens, and other "graphical" stuff for my games. I have an i9 custom win PC which I use for creating assets via Blender and simple game making/testing (Smile Game Builder). My current dilemma is If I should upgrade to a Mac Studio and run Parallels so I can get rid of my win PC? Can the M1 Max really do asset creation and exporting to FBX fast and reliably?
Are you a veteran ? Thank you for your service to the country. Great video about explaining the Mac Studio being a scalpel and you PC being your swiss army knife. I see your point of the Mac Studio being a great best option for video editing. And the PC serving all your other needs.
I watched all of your videos on this and they have been awesome and really helpful. I'm a full time CZcams editor. Do you have any monitor suggestions for the base Studio?
I went with the LG 40WP95C-W but it's not cheap.
I can't switch to only using Macs since my work flow requires some apps that only work on Pc's, and some software that only works on macs.
But what I am excited for. Is the chance to upgrade from my venerable 2015 mac book pro. To an Apple silicon mac. The MacBook pro has served me well. But its starting to huff and scream when I try to do iMovie exports that are above 2.3 gb. Since 8 gb of DDr3 ram can only take you so far.
So i'm definitely glad that Macs new line up has come around. They look like excellent tools for video editing.
I've been part of the PC ecosystem since I sold my TRS-80 Model I for an original IBM PC 5150 in 1981, and I've lost count of how many systems I've built since then. The only Apple products I bought and used were the original iPad when it came out and an iMac in the mid-2000s. I bought the iMac because I wanted to see what things were like "on the other side" but I found it just wasn't for me and I hardly ever used it.
The main reasons I'd have trouble switching are:
1) I play flight simulators and have a lot of specialized controllers and other hardware that don't work with macs. There also isn't much software in that genre for Apple hardware.
2) I like to tinker with the hardware in my systems and Apple's closed system approach simply doesn't appeal to me.
I use my Mac studio for Final Cut Pro
I use my pc for gaming and recording music
I love both systems
It’s really a great tool in a small package. Although I prefer working in Windows I’m done with the loud, bulky towers and all of the mobos with too few PCI-E slots and TB4 ports and jacked graphics card prices. It’s great piece of hardware for the size and price.
I "upgraded" to a base M1 Mini and gave my buddy my 2014 i7 iMac.....he was strictly a PC user but now uses the iMac as his Daily Driver....he says he just sits down and does "his thing" .... with zero issues.
Any laptop recommendations on UE beginners? My place can't fit in a desktop unfortunately, so I guess I'll have to get a PC laptop
I ended up getting the studio mainly for the ports. There’s not enough on the mini for me. Switching to a Mac from a gaming pc mainly because I don’t have much time to game, and I want something quiet with a small footprint. I’m hoping the Mac OS is alright, but coming from windows 11 I don’t think it can be worse then that. Got a slightly upgraded 32 core gpu and 1 tb ssd for almost the same price as the base model with the student discount. Just have to wait forever now for it to be delivered.
I was in the same boat and got a 24 inch iMac. I hope it all works out for you.
@@spacecheesewizard9067 Nice! How are you liking the IMac, and the OS?
@@s3er0i9ng I love it. It's small enough that it keeps my desk clean and tidy, looks fantastic with the screen, and the operating system has honestly been the most user friendly I have ever used. Plus, I can play quite a few games when I want to, just not the Triple AAA titles when they come out.
me too I started with DOS system !!! and move a week ago ti MAC Studio !!!!
thnx!
That's a great point about people not upgrading their PCs. I've built over a dozen PCs in the past 25 years. By the time I think I need a faster or better component, it's basically time for a new motherboard, that supports all new faster components. The only exception is adding hard drives, and in the Mac realm, most creators use external storage for many different reasons.
A used base Mac Studio is an insane value. I scored one for $1500 including touchID keyboard and Magic Mouse.
I have been for 2 weeks trying to find a reason, to spend 2k on the Mac Studio, your points are well taken, I’m too from the old school build my first 386 with dos 6.0 I don’t build that often, I have a ryzen 7 I build last year.
I can’t see why s-end the 2k on a close system you can’t upgrade, if I need more power I upgrade my cpu and video card on my system, thanks for your good not review but real world opinion
For running Windows apps on a mac, just get a virtual; machine like VirtualBox or Parallels - I run Office/Windows all the time on my Mac.
I like that cool special effects where I can see all the giant squares of pixels on your "professional display" 😂
Those aren't giant pixels, it actually is a "cool special effect" called the moire effect. It happens when you record a display on a camera with a similar resolution. Looks like we both had a good laugh.
It does very well at office things too. About the only thing I wouldn’t use my Mac for is gaming, but I never game anymore, so it doesn’t even matter.
Well, in your whole series you are comparing your 2018 PC to a 2022 Mac! which is almost 4 years old and still is better in most of the tasks.. Macs are like consoles for video editors.
The funny thing is, I used Macs for nearly 30 years, and just recently left the platform entirely, moved to a PC that I built. I don't do video editing, though.
Yeah I've only really used mac's since in 7th grade (2011) my school gave us Macbooks.
Just switched over to Windows with my framework laptop.
Did you upgrade storage or ram on your mac studio ?
No, it's the base model.
Since you also use Windows for many years then I am sure you, like me, have external drives that are formatted with NTFS. With my MacBook Pro M1 Pro I need to have an external SSD to hold my 2tb+ of data. Apple can only read NTFS though and cannot write. Apple uses APFS, but Windows can only read it. So, it makes things very difficult to have drives that you want to use with Apple sometimes and sometimes with Windows. One poor choice is using exFAT for the drives since both Apple and Windows can read/write it, but it is not a robust file system. NTFS and APFS are robust file systems. What are you doing to handle this since you have so many drives for your PC that you say you are also using with your Mac? Thanks.
My external drives are only used for filming and editing and are APFS. All my storage is on a NAS so it's XFS.
@@ElevatedSystems - Thanks for the reply. I didn't realized that M1 MacOS and Windows can read/write XFS. If so then I need to look into that. All I have read so far is that to have a drive that can be read/written on both MacOS and Windows one must use the non-robust exFAT. Paragon makes software that they claim is made for M1 and that allows read/write of NTFS, but I tried it and it had big problems so I quickly got rid of it. I know someone who used it and *all* of his external drives got corrupted by it so he had big trouble.
How much performance upgrade can we expect on the studio compared to the base M1 mac mini when using handbrake (h265 4k)?
Depends what you want to do. If you are doing encoding for compression. Do not even look at the apple computers. I have 3950x that I do blu-ray backup with CPU rendering the compression and rate is outstanding. I found my 13" M1 slow for that task. Also, the GPU acceleration for the M1 in handbrake is poor. Both, NVENC on my 1070 and media kit produced bigger files in alot of cases.
And handbrake is limited to fix amount of threads for different resolution so and the single core performance is not that great.
@@phenixnunlee372 thank you for the reply and info ♥️👍🏻
PC industry is moving in the higher dollar range. Studio fills a gap between the 32core AMD and the 8 core standard workstation. Instead of spending another 4k or another 6k your settling on a 2k for something that is more specialized. I used a Apple computer years ago to move data that my USB 2 just could not handle. Intel and AMD will for sure start putting in more video encoding in there chip to compete on some levels. Amazed at the engineering.
Can I uh, borrow that threadripper? =) Honestly using what works is always the best bet, if the scalpel does what you need happy it does it for you. As someone who works with windows/macs/linux and freebsd as far as I'm concerned it's good to have choice, though I wish apple was a lot friendlier about repairs. The tinkerer in me (who is always pulling apart and rebuilding some computer) knows what you mean about most people never touching their computers after they are bought or built. And if they did I'd be out of a job =D
The other way to go is to try linux as a daily driver and do the exact opposite of using a mac and cause yourself needless pain and anguish. That said I'm using linux as my day to day OS on my laptop, so again choice is good.
Threadripper is accounted for - czcams.com/video/dK_ImhC80Yo/video.html
Hey get Parallels Desktop yesterday! You can have many DIFFERENT versions of Windows and run it on your Apple machine inside the virtual machine onscreen. No kidding, you can run all your old Office versions etc. ON THE VERSION OF WINDOWS YOU BOUGHT IT FOR! Give me a shout if I can help! -
Is Epic games on the mac.?
For me the answer is simple: at least 70% of the software I use don't run on a Mac nativelly (Intel or ARM..) and they all require fast 3D acceleration (CAD / simulation, engineering apps). And now AMD / Intel / Nvidia have very competitive offering that provide much better perf per dollar for my apps; PC remains the best platform for general purpose workstations and high performance computing in my opinion. It offers quite affordable 12+ core CPUs with great single core & multicore perfs (Intel 12th gen or AMD Ryzen 5000 for example), RAM up to 128Gb or more if you need it, many PCIe lanes for NVME storage and very strong GPUs for Cuda/OpenCL but also OpenGL/DX/Vulkan 3D apps. But the Mac Studio is a great 'fool proof' solution for.. a studio... indeed. Technically speaking it is quite incredible what Apple has achieved with this ARM platform... but it remains locked in the Max ecosystem until Linux runs flawlessly (including gpu and accelerators).
PS: we also run some Threadripper servers (1st and 2nd gen) but it is not really the best platform for 'interactive' workstation type of work as single threaded performance is not optimal. But a Ryzen 5950x is however really good for general use in my opinion. No need to spend 'Threadripper' money to get a killer machine.
if Macs aren't locked into the Mac ecosystem ... is it really Mac or is it a PC?
🤷🏻♂️
@@RunForPeace-hk1cu If you don't mind not that much work it's not that hard getting OSX running on PC hardware and windows/linux will run on mac hardware. The only reason 'mac's' and 'PC's' aren't interoperable is because that's how Apple wants it (which is fine). tldr mac's are PC's just now they come with ARM processors. MS tried to do the same thing a few times over the years but failed, and things like the new macs and the steamdeck are making arm more of a thing finally.
Render-level computing is now more subjective then ever. This benchmark window sticker stuff is not useless, but it's a teaspoon. It really is. Matching users to computers needs almost needs to be broken down in a snowflake model of what you do before even approaching bandwidth CPU, GPU or otherwise. If not, it's very easy to be largely in error. You are the computer. It's not about 1.21 gigawatts anymore. (excuse me, "just about")
you can use a vm of windows
Has use of the framework laptop dropped?
Not at all. I still use it daily.
I only use my PC for gaming now.
My M1 Pro does everything else I need.
Depends if you want to use nothing but Apple products. Otherwise, it's a nightmare. Peripherals are a nightmare, unless you use all Apple.
You got all your Apple products at military discount! ;-) Sweet. Never knew that your prior career was in the military.
Unfortunately, while I'm a Veteran, Elevated Systems as an entity is not entitled to a military discount, so sayeth the tax man.
If the Mac Studio had RGB the PC Boyz would be standing in line to buy one.
Apple users have trendy RGB lighting under their sleek minimalist ikea standing desks. It’s byo RGB
Best computer for Blender runs Linux.
That only applies to CPU performance. OptiX is significantly better with the Windows implementation of the Nvidia drivers. If Nvidia continues to open their drivers this could change however.
The new Mac Pro may fix most of the issues that you have with Mac. We shall see in a couple of weeks.
Can you play forza horizon 5 on it.?
Yep via Parallels but you shouldn't buy it for that. If you have good internet you can run a lot of games off of geforce now as well.
@@s3er0i9ng No would be a more suitable answer
mac game support is and has always been bad. there is very few games that have good ports. with the new m1 chips you can not run boot camp to run windows like you used to for mac, so you cant run windows natively anymore. if you are a gamer get a console or a pc.
Didn't know you're retired military.
linux is the true dark side, i say as a sith lord
Linux walks in both the light and the dark, hence linux is the Bendu.
I still use a old MacBook Air and the reason I will never go back to Windows is because this thing just never screws up when I need it most. MacOS is a real workstation operating system.
I've ran Mac os since 2010 when I got a Unibody MacBook from my school in 7th grade. Bought and still have the device and my only caveat to your "never screws up" claim is thats as mine has aged it has had way more issues doing anything. The times I've had to force quit and relaunch finder have grown at an exponential rate in the past few years.
As for my 2011 iMac that thing still chugs along fine 95 % of the time.
The big problem is the way they treat OS version updates can cause issues with older machines. I literally have to keep copies of some softwares installation media available in case an auto update bricks it by going to something nott compatible with my Os Version.
There's less of a defining line between os version and more of a blurry transition which I think is why I have so much trouble. The 3rd party software isn't understand that there are fundamental difference between MacOS10.13 High Sierra which my stuff is on and MacOS 12 Monterey
Where as something for Windows 8 isn't going to try and update to it's Windows 11 version in theory
Real workstation OS ? like this is why 99% of business workstations are windows including space center mission control at nasa and other major space agencies and windows or linux are only allowed in the space station?
you can keep comparing macs to 200$ laptops and blame windows on that, Macs are only relevant because it is mostly straight forward and nothing you can do more than install apps and run them and yea for "pros" ie video editors
hey man don't be hard on yourself you look like you're in your late 30's at most
Your electric bill must be horrendous!
You don't need a $6000 PC workstation, in 2022.
$2000 Mac Studio gets you 32gb RAM, and puny 512gb SSD. And a weak gpu.
$2000 PC gets you all this:
Windows 10 Professional
Intel 12700KF cpu
64gb RAM
2tb ultra-fast SSD
RTX 3070 video card
The PC is *easily* *upgraded* with more RAM or faster CPU.
And when the next monster video cards from AMD or NVidia release in the near future, it's an easy upgrade.
Compare that to Mac Studio: locked down, zero upgrades, a *dead* *end* machine for sure. In time, the cooling fan inside the Mac Studio will be choked with dust. How to clean it?