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- So much good news but what in the world is going on with Netracells???
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Looking at the forum, literally everyone is on the toggle train.
I usually wouldn't bother but after that netracell "raid", we gotta make em understand what we want or they will pick, out of the 27 comments, the two or three who asked to adapt her to the light system.
Everyone make em know!
I skimmed like 20 pages before I gave up looking but hope you posted Brozime ?
Seems like putting both effects on one press with no light requirement would be better than making it a tap / hold ?
@@Mmmm_tea that would be abit too good by warframe standard/s
I 1000% agree on the preserving of progress for the general game too, I didn't know if many other people shared that view too, but reworking the whole current system of "y'know, I'm not sure if i can do this, I'm just gonna leave" and the eliminating of "welp, there goes two hours of my time because I didn't realise I couldnt do this" would be great improvements for just making players less deathly afraid of failing a mission and losing everything they spent however long working for
I hope this somehow works with host migration as well. Waaaaay too many times I've lost dozens of hours of gameplay because of host migration taking away my rewards and/or fucking up the mission so it can't proceed
While I would rather have a worthwhile "risk vs reward" structure for long runs (escalating rewards) the preserving progress is also a good alternative to fix that
@@ornurbaum5312 I think that escalating rewards could be an idea yeah, but not to address how the current risk vs. reward ratio is scaled way too far into risk to ever be worth it by increasing the reward, but instead to reward players alongside preserving progress for continuing on.
Circuit is a great example of that, with how your circuit progress increases the longer you stay (though, the amount that later rewards require for you to get them is a little bit high outside of anyone with a premade squad, imo), which encourages you to keep going for a better reward.
If that was brought to more gamemodes and things in the starchart, that would be awesome, from my personal experience and perspective, it feels really dumb to get a tiny credit cache from something like a Steel Path endless mission, they could increase the reward and also increase the enemy level scaling to compensate, most Survival runs for example only go for a max of 20 minutes, which isn't long enough for enemy levels to increase by an amount that's even noticeable, and it's 20 minutes just for a chance of a single regular Axi relic.
SP could be the endgame and evergreen content that players want, it's just not fleshed out very well.
I did a few railjack missions once, and got an ambassador blueprint from a survival, but then failed the mission(cant remember why, it was a while ago).
Losing all of the rewards, including the ones from succesful missions prior, sucked.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE! it's the soul reason I stopped playing for like four months because a door would not open after an hour of farming. (Back when wf first the switch)
Fixing sticky corners is amazing. I get bogged down so much by that in missions trying to dislodge myself.
Pretty much skipping any talk of netracells fixes is just baffling though.
Yeah, Netracells need multiple fixes, not just the rewards pool even though that's the big one.
I have been asking for the sticky environment fix since the beginning of time. Glad that I'm not the only one that finds this annoying AF.
for netracels why not have 2 drops
1 drop: that can only be a shards (tau or regular)
2nd drop: melee adapter or a legendary arcane
I think they should cut the farmable arcanes. Add some new ones that can't be farmed elsewhere. And have them all be at least decent.
@@samreddig8819 Yeah the farmable ones absolutely should not be on the table. You can just buy them with syndicate rep, or from drops elsewhere. Losing valuable weekly drops to these things feels so fucking bad.
An Archon Shard being 35% of a netracell, and requiring 4 to make a tau, is such a weird decision, i just hope we can combine say 2 amber and 2 azure to make a tau Emerald. It already feels really bad merging shards with the current drop rates
Definitely agree on the netracell fixes you proposed. Played a ton of the gargoyle event so I got multiple full sets for all the arcanes so getting more just feels shitty.
The netracell drop tables look like an unlimited activity but you're limited to 5 a week.
I've had the really lucky weeks and I've had the 5 melee adapter weeks. The latter takes the shine away from the former for me personally.
I think if they made the archon hunt and chipper give guaranteed tau's they could make netracells just a regular gamemode and it would be great
Yeah, it really feels that way.
Clutter in normal missions can be fine (as long as it's not too much), in the end, most of the time it will make you play a bit more. If you get a credit cache, you will be annoyed, but you can just replay the mission and get the desired item in one of the next runs.
Netracells, you can't replay. If you get unlucky, you will get frustrated, but instead of having a way to "redeem" this frustration with the next run, there is no next run until next week. And who knows - next week, it may be even worse, so now the frustration accumulates.
I personally barely bother with Netracells anymore. It's not that interesting of a game mode by itself, and drop tables feel awful, as Brozime said - like I'm logging in to waste my time, that I could have spent doing anything else. Duh, I might as well have done normal bounties and got the same loot in that time, except I can choose the arcanes/adapters I want.
The shards are so timegated its insane in a game that otherwise largely allows you to grind for whatever you want.
My first couple weeks, I got a couple tau shards each week, and felt so damn good. Then the last 3 weeks, I have had literally nothing but melee arcanes. Not even adapters. No regular shards. Nothing but melee. goddamn. arcanes.
@@JeremyGlenesk did you at least get any legendaries? Imo exposure is my favorite, rarer doesn't seem worth the time. I got a max of every other melee arcane from grinding gargoyle
I think there's two ways to improve the Netracell drops. Either remove the farmable arcanes or remove the weekly limit. With the shard ascension we're gonna need a fuckton of them and new players are shafted by starting with none.
I think a reasonable approach would be that the first 5 runs of the week (or maybe just 3 for balance, idk)have a better droptable: no adapter, no farmable arcanes, higher chance at tauforged. Then, after the boosted drops are exhausted, you get to farm to your heart's content with the current shite droptable
I hope the sticky objects fix includes the annoying clambering animation when you bullet jump over a small object or pole
The Onos's Incarnon form looks like what happened to Father Cornello's arm after his Philosopher's Stone backfired.
Yo I’ve been asking for that sticky fix for years. Genuinely never thought they’d go back and do it. Insane!
Shadow Wizard Money Gang and "Your portal opening days are over, gimme the Yamato" crossover.
he better have a alt helm named Vergil
I pray to every single deity out there that they also fix doorway lips and crevices along with the sticky corners fix.
Would also be great if they made doors have a bigger radius for detecting you and opening up. Kinda tired of running into doors with speedy frames >.>
Yeah speedy frames and high ping hosts
Honestly, the circuit change is going to be great for me, I want to try for an incarnon but it's kinda intimidating and the prospect of losing everything kept me from bothering(even more so with the random aspect), especially because I've only dipped my toe into normal steel path.
11:30 minor flashback warning
Caught me off guard my poor eyes
I really really hope Dante is good. He's the 1st frame since Gauss & Grendel that I'm excited to play from his concept alone.
Netracells really just need to have a guaranteed currency drop like Kahl missions and mirror defense
Warframe has been farming W's recently. You love to see it.
After farming Ls for 5 years, its about time xP
That netracell "improvement" took it all down to 0, they misunderstood the heck out of us.
@@Yuiichiiro Yeah I feel like they completely misunderstood what we were asking for lol
The games in an amazing state. They just totally whiffed on netracells and I just don’t like the entire Archon shard system personally. I find the gacha style implementation of it in really poor taste and the shard fusion just exacerbates how bad of a mechanic it is.
5 years? not really tho@@UnusualDeathCause
3:24 it took me 5 FUCKIN YEARS to finally get enough Familial Debt Bonds to get to max Rank on Fortuna, thank fuck they're making it easier for new players
So I'm not the only one 😂. I've been MR 30 for ages back then and didn't bother enough to farm those bonds until some years ago lol
I'm really glad I had this stupid rep grind done years ago, but I will still happily cheer for improvements to this nonsense. I can't imagine bringing a friend into this game, and then telling them to get this rep maxed out. This shit has needed fixing for way too fucking long.
One of the worst parts of arcane adapters in netracells is that we hate getting them from there but there's not even a good other source. It takes almost 2 full days of maxing out rep with the cavia for a single one, which means quite a long time of farming if you want adapters for any significant number of weapons.
Compare this to gun adapters: you get almost enough steel essence for 2 from a single day of incursions, and can get essence from quite a few other sources, some of which are not time-gated.
But, I mean, how many melee weapons do you really need adapters for? I use literally 2 melee weapons on every frame, and I gotta figure at most, folks are using 3-4 melees. You just really don't need that many at all.
For real. I didn't play Duviri for MONTHS becuase I lost everything due to host drop/dc/ internet gremlins, game crash.
Getting rewards/loot updated in real time, nit extraction is a great change.
Another idea for Netracells to make them better (ontop of removing the rewards we get from other methods)
We have four keys, allow us to open 4 vaults at once per mission.
But. Each vault DRAASTICLLY enhances the difficulty. Maybe even adding modifiers and multiple objectives to balance.
Meaning only the most quardinated squads can open all 4 vaults per run.
totalling up to 21 rewards per week (if they keep the ammount of cell runs at 5)
Gives a huge ensentive for risk and reward.
Thanks for the overview and I agree 100% both with your stand as well as your suggestions.
I think the shard ascension feels a bit weird, not only for that 4 to 1 ration but also for the people that combined normal shards to the new ones and now they are short if they wanted to upgrade.
I think, following this update, in the future we should/hope so that will, see the option to breakdown fused shards as well.
If I could make a prediction for the augments, apart from the ones you mentioned on the video, I think if they take the numbers into consideration they will give augment(s) to caliban as well.
Pablo mentioned looking into finishers when he was talking about Inaros and his 1, which is also a subsumable skill and open enemies to finishers.
for the tauforge crafting i think 4 is a fair price to pay considering how much bigger of stats you get for the shards. funny how i've been thinking that i'd be nice to have a system to sacrifice regular shards to make a tauforge version, except in my head i was ok with 5 being the cost but didn't expect 4 being an acceptable enough number for them. can't wait. As for the netracell stuff all the archanes except crescendo and duplicate and the adapter can also be gotten from bird 3 to add on how shit the reward pool is, literally all they have to do is remove everything except crescendo/duplicate and the archon shards and instead replace them with other shit like large amounts of endo and maybe a few special ayatans that can be socketed with just amber stars or even a 3x forma bundle or something.
I'm lowkey hype for Dante, but dont want to get too high up there the newer frames end up being a sacrifice for me, was theme building Wisp as void witch (still a WIP) recently, hopefully he scratches that itch for me.
I really want Styanax to get a Palatine style skin for one of his deluxe skins. I already use the Rhino Palatine syandana for Styanax since it fits his Spartan aesthetic, and I think a full Palatine skin would look great.
The feeling I have regarding the netracells was that they were aiming for having more to say, it sounded like the new activity was on the cusp of having decisions made.
Those decisions likely impacts what changes they'll make to netracells, as they seem to be complementary.
So my guess is that netracell changes are coming, but they opted for making it all fit together instead of making temporary netracell changes.
I understand that reasoning, but it made it strange when they shared less than it seemed like they would. Which likely was less than they were initially planning.
Rare thing has happened, I really rarely come and comment any WF youtubers or agree to them. But now Brozime your ideas about upgrading mirage and about other stuff in this video, I totally agree💪🏻 all of the stuff. Well done with good breakdown and giving ideas to our wonderful game to benefit to the future. Have good one fellow Tenno
Since netracells started i have gotten 3 or 4 regular archon shards that's it.
I've gotten 1 melee duplicate and 4 regular shards, it's been rough
Im a pretty casual warframe player and the thing im looking forward to the most of the update is the persevering the progress on circuit. The main reason I never completed one is that in Rougelikes i really enjoy pushing my run to the absolute max, and I usually always overstepped on what I could do and waste 30m-1h of my time so I just stopped doing them. So im pretty hyped for that.
Holy shit, I might actually want to play Circuit now!
I play the Warframe only missions because I’d rather die than play Duviri.
Ascent fusion does make it so that you average out to 1 tauforged a week if you do both the archon hunts and kahl missions
SO hyped for Dante. The designs have evolved INMENSLY and i love it
Totally agree about the lack of discussion about Netracells. They feel so fucking awful right now. For the last 3 weeks, all 15 drops for me have been nothing but melee arcanes. Not even regular archon shards, just nothing but melee arcanes I don't give a fuck about. So fucking frustrating. This shit needs to change so badly.
I have commented this on Tactical Potato’s video. But I want to say here as well
Dante has HEAVY parallels to Dante Aligiheri. The author of The Divine Comedy. Namely, his parallels to Dante’s Inferno. With the fact Dante in Warframe wrote about The Orokin, and went missing, he is absolutely themed around Dante Aligiheri. And I kind of hoped his Tome was actually named Aligiheri. But I a, incredibly excited for his release
😮 that's actually really cool insight. A semi Shakespearean Warframe that is an author of divine comedy with a wizard brain sounds soooo funky yet awesome
Tome is names Noctua
5 netracells, no shards :(
I feel that pain. Had 2 weeks of no shards.
Just last week I lost 1 hour and 58 minutes of duviri circuit because my operator glitched out fighting lvl cap Jackel. I was able to get through his first two phases relying on void strike to buff my damage but on the last phase for whatever reason my operator glitched out and I could not use any of its abilities or manually swap to my Warframe.
Please tell me I'm not the only one who heard the book is called noctua and immediately thought "so it's poop brown fashion time"
I did immediately wonder if it was going to have a fan on it.
I always assumed that netracell legendary arcanes would also come from another source, making netracell a “go in and grab some loot” activity.
In regards to the new legendary arcanes that exclusively drop from the weekly netracell missions, they should change it to where you get guaranteed drop or at least chance from the 60 Eyes Effervo boss fight, only reason to do it was to get a set of decorative hands for your orbiter an that's it. This would incentive reasons to go further and add weight to the update. Failing that maybe reduces the ranks required to max it, make it like a Exodia or Pax Arcane where it only requires three ranks to max it.
15 minute Kahl missions, 30 minute max Archon sorties, and Netracells in their current state shows to me that there is a clear intention when it comes to shards. Archon shards are meant to be warframe’s lowest slog. A slow-chew bone for the who purely care about maxing.
I really shouldn’t be as mildly let down as I am at this development.
For Jackel, I usually have difficulties; My frames usually rely on gimmicks to stay alive, frames that're meant to rely on health and armor like Wisp are outfitted for shields. Basically, my ability to stay alive in Jackel is vary inconsistent. Weapons are also huge hit or miss, particularly since I'll often have my "useable" weapon be a pure status or melee weapon.
Going into invisible void mode as operator completely ignores the jackal's attacks during the spinning laser wall phase, and having some kind of knockdown prevention makes the entire rest of the fight a joke.
Hmmm Mirage Tap/Hold Toggle sounds amazing... But doesn't her 4s damage ramp depend on light as well?
God saving progress on wave based missions would be awesome I would love to be able to push even my lower level grind runs as far as I can
Re: 4 shards, everyone forgets the ones from Kahl Missions.
Yup. Been buyin my shard every week since launch. Got 1000+ stock because I knew they would implement the fuse system.
I honestly haven't done Kahl missions in months, because it felt like there was no reason to since they couldn't ever drop as Tauforged. Now it seems I'll need to go back and start doing them again. Yay....
Hyped for the omos too. The infinite ammos on arm cannons are just so good, and incarnon? Sign me up.
About the sticky corners, I love it, but what would make me happier is to not get tped 100 meters away when I play Wukong and fall after using his 2 without touching the ground. Basically tping players next to where they fell instead of the last place they touched ground would be perfect.
i need a staff incarnon that turns into a great scythe with separate mod slots
Seems like I’m getting my magic/tome mage Warframe I asked for.
Really glad they’re fixing Fortuna since that combined with Thermia and a few other things was what made be quit playing years ago.
I think for the preserve circuit progress, there are 2 mechanics
1. Overall progress save: No matter which mission you fail or where you get disconnected, there are checkpoints so to say where your progress is saved. I think it will probably one full rotation - e.g. after you had all game modes once, then twice, etc...
2. Defense protection: It seems like defense gets a special protection. That if you fail to protect the defense target, you still lose the game but keep progress up to this state.
Now how those 2 safety nets interact with each other is not really clear. Maybe there is a checkpoint prior to every defense mission. Maybe there isn't. If Defense is the 4th mode in the rotation and survival is the 5th. If you fail on the 4th you keep everything until and including the 3rd modes success. If you fail on the survival - the 5th mode, you lose everything from that rotation of modes. Maybe - that would be kind of stupid, but I almost expect it to be that way.
DE kind of seems to understand that Defense scaling is just off and that it is difficult to fix. That is my prediction at least.
The punching weapon looks like VR goggles
I think that it should be emmisive color like equinox
Holy shit, they are going to fix the sticky objects!!!! It's going to be like a whole new game, PARKOUR!!!
Volt main, very happy about sticky objects fix :)
I assume the reason we need 4 archon shards is that we need 4 of rivens/mods/requiems to transmute and get a new one. 3 would've been the obvious choice simply because two tauforged shards have the same value as 3 regular shards.
It would be nice if all reward tables did not have vitality, ammo drum or any other common mod in it, more resources, more credits, more endo, relics are always nice for new players and maybe old players.
Or they could change what they scale off like duration for damage reduction or the eclipse
Link for the leaked augments?
Please and thank you
Wow, nice video, good work :)
I've always gotten frustrated by WF's magnetic environments... glad they are finally addressing that.
The circuit progress preserve thing -- I agree that it should be applied to all the missions. How many times have you gotten , then the defense NPC gets 1-shotted and you lose everything?
6:00 Well shit that's an item off the bucket list. Now we just need to be able to pick day/night manually for Plains of Eidolon to fix that grind, and some kind of host migration mitigation... wishful thinking, I know
Sometimes when I watch these I feel like i'm playing an entirely different game lmao, no offensie to Brozimes hard work or anything it's just that I've been back getting things done for what I "need" and I've barely even touched Duviri, have not started whispers, only recently finished Zariman rep, and am struggling to push Steel Path (thanks disruption) despite being a veteran since Open beta launch.
There's just so much in this game!
Fixing sticky corners is such a good QOL update. Getting stuck on a 3cm bump while bullet jumping was infuriating.
I kept hoping that Styanax Deluxe would come with a Speargun and Polearm skin that are identical that way you always look like youre wielding the same weapon when holding your melee or primary
exactly 180.000 subs, cool 👍🏻
man it feels so good (to not be playing WF anymore)
i mean theres soooo much stuff in the game that they take 4+ years to fix stuff
ngl, when I heard that we would get Dante as a New warframe, I was thinking something like 'Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry Series'
I wonder if the sticky objects fix became a priority because of the recent Gauss prime release lol
Wish they would address the gauss prime accessories shoulder armor while equipped on gauss prime and on certain frames, we can’t see🙃. maybe adjusting the camera more to the left, or design it so we can adjust it.
I just love this game so much ❤ common W’s
I dig the south american vibes with the styanax deluxe
As a LR4 mirage finactic, Fk making eclipse a toggle, I want to press 1 button and get both buff. If an ability like, nourish is able to be helminthed with what it can do with the push of a button…
The real kick in the nuts about netracells is you have to do them because they're one of the few sources of shards, which aren't tradable and are limited enough to warrant farming.
On the point of Netracell drop table changes, this isn’t confirmation that they won’t be changed. This devstream was a bit more chaotic than usual so it may just have fallen between the cracks. Also bear in mind we have another devstream in Feb before this update comes out, so there’s every chance they could talk about it then.
I got lucky enough to get Melee Duplicate to rank 1 but I barely even get archon shards. Add in that it's still faster to solo Alchemy and Netracells than it is to do it with a group and how there's no reason to collect the markers in the Mirror Def so I just AFK with Nyx and pray...
Man, I hope the Disruption is more interesting and rewarding or I might be going on a year long break again sooner than expected.
Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry
Not even close lol
Dante is very shadow wizard money gang ✨📖🔺✨
The Circuit change is huge for me, as disconnections and troubles as consequence of server migration are so common that I just bail early out of fear all the time. I'll finally be able to just chill and play as long as I want.
I always solo's them because of those god awful host migrations
We are in a golden age of warframe
I would love to see a Metroid Prime Samus style arm canon weapon or skin added to game.
I agree with Brozime's idea for netracell drop table, but i think they should still keep it at 5 per week. With regard to the arcanes, you might expect to get 1 or 2 a week depending on rng, but you need 21 to max each. Thats a lot of weeks. Same with the archon shards. If its gonna cost us 4 shards to upgrade to tauforged, i dont think getting 5 shards in a week is unreasonable given how many frames there are in the game.
Inaros's 4th ability is fine as it is for survivability purposes. I hope they would just overhaul his other abilities so they're aren't useless. Gotta wait for more details on how how they're planning to rework him
If finishers are sufficiently buffed, his 1 can become a good ability for cc and healing. His 2 and 3 are just full on trash.
Plus, pocket sand.
If they wanted to limit how much of the awesome stuff players can get from this mode, because this appears to be designed for more established players they could go about it as suggested in video. I’d personally love to see a system that increases reward opportunities based on players achieving certain feats for example; not dying, killing x amount of enemies in x seconds, etc. just killing enemies in a red circle is just a chore. I’d like to see more interesting mechanics involved for these type of modes designed for established player base.
I feel like 4 shards is fair now that we can get 6 chances per week to get one and a guaranteed shard purchasable for stock
I get the idea of making the legendary arcane more accessible in the new game mode, but just fixing the netracell drop table like you said is clearly the best move for DE. It gives justification for making the archon shard ascension 4 regular shards and gives netracell players more incentive to try out the new game mode when it releases
Please understand, they were too distracted showing off the heckin wholesome animal petting for the reddit upvotes to talk about actually fixing netracells. Nevermind the fact that they ended the stream 15 minutes ahead of schedule.
I feel like I've had to use the /unstuck function more than your Average Warframe Player, hopefully this helps with that 😅
Sticky objects fix alone is the best content for 2024
Can we finally have the option to assign favorite weapons frames etc in arsenal so that they show up first when we choose equipment.
sounds like there was a bunch on the list of stuff to talk about that they just absolutely blundered talking about. Reb said it was gonna be an hour and half stream and based on that they dipped out way early.
Either leave Netracell Drop tables the way they are or actually 'improve them' DE. If they absolutley HAVE to change something, then make 2 to 3 garunteed drops upon a completion: 1 is a garunteed shard (base or TF), the 2nd would be a garunteed Melee adapter or Legendary Arcane, or better yet, give the player one of each.
I personally love the Sanctum content and am stoked to see my favorite gametype (disruption) being added to it but DE is really trying to shoot themselves in the foot on this one.
Dante looks interesting and so do the new weapons. Hopefully the new fisticuffs are actually good with/without Incarnon because Furax Wraith and Tekko Prime are basically the only two worth using.
But have they fixed thunderbolt Ivara yet?
Regarding the Onos though, void angel based frame when
why does styanax deluxe have nipple pasties?
Really like the styanax deluxe, hopefuly will transfer well into the game, cause I dont think the model showcase was in game engine.
i would prefer if netracells were just something we could run as many times as we want, with a cap on archon shards per week and the rest of the drop table being the same, its a bit tiring for all these new worthwhile missions in the game to just have a weekly limit, best way to get legendary melee arcanes is by doing other unrestricted older content and selling the spoils of that for platinum to buy the legendary melee arcanes from others rather than playing something new they made
and more so when or if they add melee arcanes in the dissolution shop, then legendary arcanes become more common and cheap but they'll still remain stingy in the netracells while losing some of it's value from getting one so everyone will feel bad about anything that's not a shard as a reward
It's a real shame shards are locked behind miserable content. I did one archon hunt when it came out and never touched it again. Did my first weeks 5 netracell's and got nothing, probably won't be touching that again either.
Featuring Dante from the Divine Comedy series.
Dressing up as Vergil
The arcane ascent should be 2. The buffs of tau only give 50℅ bonus so 2 shards already more stat bonus that 1 tau
wild that styanax deluxe is just a nude man lmao
I stopped doing netracells weeks ago. Just to much B.S. just take out the regular arcanes as a drop and Ill come back. I would be extremely happy with just regular shards as a reward. Specially since it will cost 4 regular to convert which also is a bit ridicules. 3 tops but 4 is overboard.
Finally a reason to get excited for fortuna, 400 hours in and still avoid that grind