Riveting Rivet Essentials, Medieval Armor Techniques #6
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- čas přidán 21. 09. 2016
- I did intend this video to be about 5 minutes long, but it's turned into a full 30 minute magna opus to rivets.
In it I take a look at basic rivets, hinge rivets, and two techniques for sliding rivets and the tools required as well as a brief look at widening rivet holes ... riveting stuff I am sure you'll agree.
I get my rivets in the UK principally from
Chronos Engineering: www.chronos.ltd.uk/
Sapphire Products: www.sapphireproducts.co.uk/
Remember 1/8 inch is about 3mm and 5/32 inch is about 4mm ... I tend to use both throughout the video.
There is a lot of information here about the acceptable and unacceptable shape of rivets, far too much for an armourer, but it helps to know a bit: www.vansaircraft.com/public/S...
Have fun and happy riveting.
This is very helpful. Always good to revisit the basics and you sure give some very good tips! Thanks!
My pleasure, I don't have much more than basics :)
Glad you're enjoying the channel.
Giuliano Armaduras
You said some person got cut in the helmet from the rivets.
I bet that made for some pretty cool pictures. .....Battle wounds! Thumbs Up!
hey keep up the great videos! this is great info and saving me tons of time and money being new to armoring.
Thanks, that was the hope all along - making the sorts of videos that I was looking for when I started out :)
Thank you for these great videos, really helpful, I know they take a lot of effort but much appreciated.
My pleasure mate, thanks for commenting.
If I could presume, I'd offer that one can shear with a cold chisel. You clamp the workpiece in the vise, with the two holes aligned parallel, directly above the vise jaws. These work as a guide, and one angles the chisel from the workpiece. (Note that this method is effective for curved slots as well.)
Nice idea, I will give it a try.
Thanks for these videos!
My pleasure mate :)
crucial indeed, thanks again
Incredible! Thank you!!!
Thanks!
excellent video tyvm
Awesome.
You might want to dress the end of the chisel. The mushroom can chip off and fly into your skin. It's unpleasant. :). Loving the series!
I keep meaning to do that. You're the second person to mention it from this video so I'd be a fool to leave it any longer … thanks :)
Yes. I was flinching at that part
Hello sir, first of all thanks a lot for all this nice content, it helped me a lot for my armor maintenance.
I have a question for you about rivets material. I purchased second hand armor arms and legs for fighting and the previous owner did a crappy job using stainless nails with modern heads to rivets the leather straps.
I wantto change the leather and i found that stainless steel is considerably harder to cut and pin haha. I then thought about it and found that stainless could be a nice idea to avoid corrosion on those hard to clean part . I then bought some 4mm rivets but the set up is really hard, my snip can’t cut them ( i have some russian snips and sided one like you ) and i need an angle grinder or hacksaw to cut them which is a pain in the arse. Would you recommand to stick to mild steel rivets and just take extra care of rust on the rivets and call it a day ? Thanks a lot for your insight and cheers from France !
I tend to use mild in most of my armours, they gather grease and dirt quite easily so they don't tend to rust too badly, but you will need to keep an eye on the surface and give them the odd wipe. 4mm stainless would be tough, I have a set of small bolt croppers that I set in a vice for jobs like that.
That might help.
www.toolstation.com/roughneck-professional-bolt-cutter/p10326
The tool your looking for is called a ''Rivet Dolly'' save you heaps of work..
That's the one, thanks.
Greenleaf Workshop
--- Excuse me but what kind/type of rivets are these? It's very important to me. Thank you in advance.
Hello sir do you think pop rivet could work for a medieval helmet ?
If I may make a suggestion sir. You can find a very reasonable pair of webcam "spy eyeglasses" on ebay that record in both 1080P AND also record in stereo! Idea is...what ever you see, we your subscribers also see thereby eliminating the worry and hassle of getting a good camera angle. Food for thought mate...just trying to help. Armour on! :)
It's a nice idea but my mind tends to wander and I look all over the place ... and my workshop is almost always messy :)
Heyo - are those solid rivets you're using mild steel? having trouble determining best ones to use for repairs - cheers
hi love your work where do you get those rivets im in the USA cant seem to find any in my area
Rob, thanks for your appreciation, it means a lot.
I'm not sure where you can get rivets from in the US, but the companies I use in the UK for my rivets are:
www.chronos.ltd.uk/
www.sapphireproducts.co.uk/
I should think that both would be happy to ship, but couldn't say for sure.
Hope that helps.
Graham
thanks i will try that
I participate in medieval armoured combat.... This has been a life safer for fixing kit at competition
HI, I really enjoy your videos and am wondering, how should one who is looking to start armouring go about it? I have absolutely no experience with metalwork but I've looked at quite a few videos and I'm really interested to try it out. What would I need to do to get started, and how would one proceed to eventually actually make armour pieces? Thanks :)
Thanks.
I've been trying to get together a few videos on things needed to get started, but it all takes time.
Firstly I would suggest visit museums, asking for handling sessions, draw and photograph the armour you see and get a real feel for it's proportions and style. Additionally places like myarmoury, armour archive and arador can help get you into the community.
If you have someone nearby that works armour, it is always worth your time to go and see them and see if you can even just watch how they work or better still let you have a go, but this last one is something you need to approach carefully as they (if they are professional armourers) are trying to get on with their work and may want to charge you for the experience.
Hope this helps to start with.
Greenleaf Workshop alright thanks a lot! I ordered a book recently as well I believe it's called medieval armour techniques or something along those lines. Your videos are super informative and helpful as well!
I know the one, by Brian Price. It's a good solid read but he does rely a lot on welding, which in the modern armourers skill set isn't so much of an issue (so long as your customers know, but not very medieval :)
not sure if you mentioned this, what size rivet do you generally use? does the size change based on which part of the armor you are making? I'd love to see a video on leather strapping in a future video
Not sure where my earlier reply ended up as I can't see it anymore.
Generally I use 1/8, 5/32 and 3/16 rivets ... unless I make them myself for a specific project, some folk like to have the rivets handmade; but the above ones tend to cover most medieval and Tudor requirements.
I'll add the strapping idea to the list and get it done sometime in the near future.
Thanks
Hello mate, I've just done a video on leather strapping, I hope it's useful to you.
czcams.com/video/jB1MAYOoB6w/video.html
For drill bit's l like to go a 64th larger than the rivet (usually a 3/16 and a 13/64th) and thus save the filing stage for the holes.
Nice idea, I'll give that a try next time I get some more bits ordered, thanks.
Dont worry about the filing bit bud, anyone that can't figure out what they can't see don't really have any business attempting this work lol. Love your vids tho brother.
thanks very much
@@GreenleafWorkshop a hint I'd add on washers- fender washers are larger outer diameter, and can be sized as necessary.
Hello I got a question about the rivets, well I'm currently using bolts and nuts would it be good to tighten the nuts with a tool then cutting and shaping the left over of the screw? Would the bolts come out of place ? And thanks your video helps alot
I guess it could technically work. But you'd be reliant on the strength of the thread, I've found screws tend to be quite soft and also, I'd suggest that rivets look nicer and are stronger.
@@GreenleafWorkshop will do and thanks a lot it helps
Where do you get your rivets?
In the UK I generally go to Sapphire Rivets or occasionally Chronos Engineering. The latter seems to have a diminishing variation of stock though.
@@GreenleafWorkshop are those online? I am based in Canada and im currently a novice armourer who uses cut amd sanded roofing nails
www.sapphireproducts.co.uk/
www.chronos.ltd.uk/
I would also suggest asking on the United League of Armourers Facebook group or the Armour Archive on the web for other suppliers, there are a few Canadian Armourers who must be getting rivets from somewhere. I believe that Eric Dube is a Canadian … I think.
@@GreenleafWorkshop thank you!!
28:33 That shoe looks bloody brilliant.
Thanks, I've done a couple of pairs for people, iirc the one in the video is the prototype that I was working on to try and figure everything out on.
I have just started smithing recently and watching your videos has given me more inspiration and motivation than a lot of other videos I have watched. Please for the love of all that is holy, keep up the bangin' good work : D
I doubt in the 1500"s they had electric drills and such
without a doubt. The modern cheats all depend on the customer's requirements; some I won't use, particularly if they don't create the shapes needed like English Wheels etc … I enjoy older techniques when I can though. I'll do a video soon on medieval hole punching, it's relatively straight forward and takes about the same time as drilling in my opinion.
my wife came in at 28:37 and asked me to buy her these Shoes
I think you are the important armour out here at and would like to hope that you would take an interest in me now and help me make my harness please with brass trim. Italian influences.