So I've Been Playing: DEADLY PREMONITION 2 [ Review SWITCH ]

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  • Deadly Premonition 2 Review by ThorHighHeels
    Game by Swery for Nintendo Switch
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Komentáře • 515

  • @thorhighheels
    @thorhighheels  Před 4 lety +116

    here's whitneys v in depth look at the game: czcams.com/video/imDx0jly7a0/video.html
    i recommend it bigly and higly.
    alternatively, my friend miles's review of DP2 provides a bit of a different view from my own lol czcams.com/video/EJTnIRqdOjI/video.html very much worth a watch as well.
    also heres devins concluse 2 video that i stole footage from: czcams.com/video/3kp-_512KcA/video.html
    and here is my patreon even: www.patreon.com/user?u=2285408
    i need it to not die!

    • @kevinsuarezpale375
      @kevinsuarezpale375 Před 4 lety +3

      ThorHighHeels missed ya Thor this is my favorite game of all time uwu

    • @adevilscupoftea
      @adevilscupoftea Před 4 lety +6

      Just a criticism Thor.
      Cut the bloat, controversies and political bullshit. Just stick to the game.

    • @yehuda8589
      @yehuda8589 Před 4 lety +11

      @@adevilscupoftea What's the problem with addressing things that might taint the experience for others? While the deadnaming and stuff didn't bother me very much, other people could be bothered by it and not want to play the game because of it.

    • @adevilscupoftea
      @adevilscupoftea Před 4 lety +3

      @@yehuda8589 The lines were already patched out, so why the need to point out the previous problem when it's already solved? Or is that not enough? It's never enough is it?

    • @raynacannon8954
      @raynacannon8954 Před 4 lety +12

      @@adevilscupoftea Who actually cares that it was brought up in a video? You genuinely sound bent out of shape that he addressed the pre-patch controversy.

  • @TechnoSyndro
    @TechnoSyndro Před 4 lety +418

    A patch released just a couple days ago that dramatically improves the framerate in the open world, so I think it's safe to say it was never a design choice and was always just ToyBox being ToyBox. I noticed a lot of people trying to claim that the bad FPS was an inherent part of Deadly Premonition when it was never an issue in the original 360 version, just the ports ToyBox handled. I think framerate could be used to convey ideas or emulate a certain style like you said, but nothing about this game felt like it was trying to emulate old video games to me and the lack of consistency across the board showed it was never a stylistic choice. The open world sections legit gave me a headache a few times and I'd have to stop playing for a bit.

    • @Spagooblio
      @Spagooblio Před 4 lety +24

      By dramatically you mean it doesn't dips down into a single digit? If so then great that's one point of complaint of mine goes away

    • @TechnoSyndro
      @TechnoSyndro Před 4 lety +18

      @@Spagooblio It still gets bad around the hotel area, but the outer parts of the town are pretty acceptable in my eyes. I've only tested it handheld since the patch though.

    • @Spagooblio
      @Spagooblio Před 4 lety +3

      @@TechnoSyndro at least they patched on it, which means it's definitely not meant to dip that low

    • @DrMecha
      @DrMecha Před 4 lety +1

      But ThorHighHeels don't give a fuck because Anarchism. The point isn't that the bad frame rate is part of the aesthetic, the point is that issues like that shouldn't be a factor in enjoying games like this.

    • @noahmckay1599
      @noahmckay1599 Před 4 lety +52

      @DrMecha
      Isn't that kind of a contradiction? You're basically saying a person should ingore the bad framerate and that it shouldn't be a factor when enjoying this game when clearly for a lot of people can't enjoy this game because the bad framerate makes them feel ill. I even think you might misundering his point in the video which that he is saying that gameplay should serve everything else and not that everything else should be used to serve gameplay. Since framerate is a part of gameplay then that means a framerate that doesn't function as it is supposed to which is this framerate isn't because they released a patch to fix the framerate implying that the framerate wasn't to be suppose to be that low in the first place. Thor was able to enjoy it was because he is used to be framerates and it doesn't bother him as much. So basically what you're doing is ingoring parts of Thor's agrument and misrepresenting it so that it becomes "framerate shouldn't be a factor in enjoying this game" when the agrument was "framerate shouldn't be only factor in enjoying this game."

  • @tussletoes
    @tussletoes Před 4 lety +313

    "Not so-bad-it's-good, just good" is what I've been trying to tell people about DP1 for years. Finally... a small victory... a little crumb for me...

    • @bludtinge
      @bludtinge Před 4 lety +11

      It is so bad it’s good for folks who have low tolerance for janky games. Totally understandable.

    • @ddg8561
      @ddg8561 Před 4 lety +5

      I wanted to like DP1 so much, in fact i loved the day time and the interactions i had with the npc's. But man, when the game goes in 3rd person shooter mode.... i couldnt stand it. Controls werent great, respawning enemies, it was really just a mess. If they could dial back the night time 3rd person stuff i wouldve absolutely loved this game

    • @tussletoes
      @tussletoes Před 4 lety +5

      @@ddg8561 That I totally get, it's a shame the devs were more or less forced to implement those shooting segments, I guess I grew a tolerance for those.

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 Před 4 lety +3

      @@bludtinge well you people lose out on some awesome gaming moments ever experienced, you know what VTMB means ?

    • @bludtinge
      @bludtinge Před 4 lety +1

      Quentin Els did I say I was one of those people? i don’t mind jank, there is this weird charm to DP1’s combat, like discount Resident Evil 4
      I just wish there was a harder difficulty setting. It’s impossible to die in DP1 unless you shoot an exploding barrel by accident.

  • @WritingOnGames
    @WritingOnGames Před 4 lety +181

    Thesis for one of my upcoming videos is literally "Deadly Premonition is better than "so bad it's good"" so I'm gonna come back to this when I've made it to avoid any other crossing of the idea streams, but needless to say your intro was fantastic and I am suuuper excited to watch the rest of this

    • @chrisossu2070
      @chrisossu2070 Před 4 lety +3

      I did not expect to see you here.

    • @airbo5104
      @airbo5104 Před 4 lety +2

      I think Whitney plays did literally that

    • @PolarbearYGT
      @PolarbearYGT Před 4 lety

      @@SaltyShears this 😂

    • @WhitneyPlays
      @WhitneyPlays Před 4 lety +4

      I look forward to seeing your video on the game!

    • @enclave2k1
      @enclave2k1 Před 4 lety +2

      _"Deadly Premonition is better than "so bad it's good""_
      Well, the problem with that statement; Deadly Premonition isn't bad at all.

  • @TheTrueJuan
    @TheTrueJuan Před 4 lety +160

    Thank you for talking about this game! When I went to my local GameStop the man over the counter was "I've been waiting for you." To which I replied "How so ?"
    "You are the only person who pre-ordered this game so I put next to the cash register because I wanted to see what you looked like."
    I have a bit of a funny relationship because many times I'm the only person who orders games like this. When the 25th Ward came out I had a DP esque situation when the manager called out his employee all like "Hey it's that guy." To which a dude poked his head from the back and was like "Hey it's that guy wait a second let me get (random name)." After feeling like a prized poodle i realized, I am known as the guy who gets the obscure niche ass shit.
    On another note Thor your video editing has gotten so amazing I've been inspired to get into it. At one of my jobs (I.E a library) I've taken a lead role at editing cringe art videos for the youth. So thank you for the inspiration bruh.

  • @QuetzalOvejasElectricas
    @QuetzalOvejasElectricas Před 4 lety +69

    I want to buy it, but unlike you, I lack patience for long loading screens and my head hurts from low fps. As long as they manage an average of 24-30 I'll take it.

    • @gonzalorubencachi4556
      @gonzalorubencachi4556 Před 4 lety +2

      El último parche ayuda mucho a entender la taza de framerate a permanecer estable.

    • @micaiahflores1592
      @micaiahflores1592 Před 4 lety +16

      It’s not even 24 FPS more like 10-13

    • @tigerfestivals5137
      @tigerfestivals5137 Před 4 lety +4

      @@micaiahflores1592 yeah as much as i want to like the Deadly Premonition games the framerate especially for 2 is too much for me to get over. Maybe if it ever gets a better port or something I'll play it.

    • @cantrip7
      @cantrip7 Před 4 lety +5

      @@gonzalorubencachi4556Another patch came out recently that improves performance. I'd say it's now up to Tolerable!

    • @rgmusic4769
      @rgmusic4769 Před 3 lety +1

      Hey my dude not sure if you been keeping up with Deadly Premonitions 2 Framerate updates but it's been alittle more stable now you can now be on the skateboard and the frames are between 16 and 20 so....yeah getting there slowly

  • @elr8691
    @elr8691 Před 4 lety +68

    Jake Generican is the most American character I've ever seen.

  • @j_s_g
    @j_s_g Před 4 lety +208

    Low key the “So I’ve Been Playing” intro music slaps

    • @T8-TR
      @T8-TR Před 4 lety +15

      Lowkey? Highkey, fam. High fucking key. That shit is fire.

    • @blackRXrider
      @blackRXrider Před 4 lety +4

      When the word slaps meant something else.

    • @saedt
      @saedt Před 4 lety +1

      100%!!!

    • @cynical8330
      @cynical8330 Před 4 lety

      True

    • @aaronlippincott7385
      @aaronlippincott7385 Před 4 lety +2

      low key can EAD, high-key for life

  • @WhitneyPlays
    @WhitneyPlays Před 4 lety +78

    Hey thanks for the shout out to my Deadly Premonition: A cult classic that's more than just "so bad, it's good" video :) Happy you enjoyed it! It's nice to know I'm not alone thinking the game is great. I enjoyed your Deadly Premonition 2 review as well!

  • @specknacken6507
    @specknacken6507 Před 4 lety +74

    I love that DP2 has that "PS3 Aesthetic" to it despite being a Switch game.

    • @yehuda8589
      @yehuda8589 Před 4 lety +3

      well the switch has power of a PS3 so it makes sense

    • @_corteks_
      @_corteks_ Před 4 lety +1

      Yehuda Halpern Switch is more powerful than a PS3. It’s got more power than the Wii U, and the Wii U had more power than PS3.

    • @hanfei6871
      @hanfei6871 Před 3 lety +3

      @@_corteks_ false

    • @Di3mondDud3
      @Di3mondDud3 Před 3 lety +5

      @@_corteks_ the wii u has a better gpu hands down, just check the effects on the ink when you swim in the splatoon games. The ps3 was limited by ram in general but its cpu would run circles around the wii u when properly utilized, it had extra compute cores to boost what a gpu of that age wasnt capable of. The switch is less powerful than both. The chipset its based on is as old as the wii u hardware, and it runs most games at 720p, the wii u actually runs almost all its games at 1080p natively.

    • @Di3mondDud3
      @Di3mondDud3 Před 3 lety +1

      That would be because the "ps3 aesthetic" likely means poorly optimized games from the first few years for most. And the switch just struggles to run modern standard games in general, its hardware is basically only capable of ps3 era texture sizes and such.

  • @FightCain
    @FightCain Před 4 lety +38

    8:55 If you increase the volume to full, you can hear a faint
    “QUUUUUUIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNT”

  • @MidnightSt
    @MidnightSt Před 4 lety +110

    Nah, the games SHOULD run at 30fps at least. Same as movies SHOULD run at 24 fps at least to not cause headaches. Same as books SHOULD have a minimum font size that is still comfortably readable for long stretches of time.
    Low FPS CAN be used deliberately for artistic purposes, and btw good point, BUT... it NEEDS TO BE DELIBERATE then, and it needs to have the rest of the things in the game deliberately designed around this. Which is clearly not the case here.

    • @DrMecha
      @DrMecha Před 4 lety +2

      way to miss the point.

    • @MidnightSt
      @MidnightSt Před 4 lety +25

      @@DrMecha way to explain what point I missed and how. way to contribute to the discussion.

    • @iojgoro
      @iojgoro Před 4 lety +1

      @@MidnightSt the point was explained in the video thoroughly. Why should movies not cause headache? What if that kind of experience is not always unwanted? What if junk contributes to the enjoyment? People love the sounds of audio player or recorder malfunctioning, for example - as far as to even replicate the effect on purpose while making music. But it shouldn't necessarily be on purpose, because originially it wasn't and people still love it.

    • @CapCaffeine
      @CapCaffeine Před 4 lety +12

      @@iojgoro If the author ends up causing physical sickness to communicate his vision it's kind of a obstacle to reach his audience, and if it is deliberate its hipster lord tier bullshit. It is interesting that in this case the author unwillingly caused moral discomfort in some people and he went back to correct that (because evidently his intention was to comply with the sensibilities of those who consider what he ended up writing bigoted),I don't see good old Thor claiming that lamenting that discomfort is trying to make the game less what it is.

    • @SqueakyJpn
      @SqueakyJpn Před 4 lety +4

      This is a great point. Just look at the works of Wong Kar-Wai. In his films, he'll lower the frame rate to sub 10 during intense scenes as a way of highlighting the disorienting nature of the moment. It is absolutely possible to use low frame rates in an artistic manner, and that was not the case in DP2

  • @wonderwondertwins
    @wonderwondertwins Před 4 lety +35

    One of the best gaming channels I've discovered. Other youtubers tend to just nitpick about certain aspects of the game but this channel really considers a huge aspect of video games that is sorely missed in a lot of channels, and that's art direction and world building.

  • @Rihcterwilker
    @Rihcterwilker Před 4 lety +54

    I'm just glad this game exists. People will complain about it being bad, it will not sell well, and i am going to devour this game just like i do with everything that swery poops out.

    • @mathieuwiersma1660
      @mathieuwiersma1660 Před 4 lety +2

      Seems like a great game to me. I am still looking to buy the 1st game but this one is now on my list as well.

  • @thomasstanley6101
    @thomasstanley6101 Před 4 lety +67

    I really enjoyed what you said in the beginning about things being so bad they're good and guilty pleasures! I was just trying to elaborate that same idea to someone the other day, like man what's the point of being embarrassed about liking something that might be against the grain of what's normally considered good? Who has the energy to feel guilty about enjoying something which isn't actively harmful, but is just wacky or doesn't have massive budget? Why put a disclaimer like ironic enjoyment or guilty pleasure on the shit you like? Don't be a coward, unabashedly love what makes y'all happy!

    • @AceTobin
      @AceTobin Před 4 lety +9

      I felt that so much. Every time somebody tells me the earth defense force games are "so bad its good" it makes me wanna scream at them.

    • @ParappatheRapper
      @ParappatheRapper Před 4 lety +7

      It's just making clear that you not only recognize the flaws but also enjoy them for it, while recognizing many would see them as such.

    • @Rotinaj37
      @Rotinaj37 Před 4 lety +2

      But some things really are “so bad they’re good” and it’s not some kind of deflection to admitting you like something that goes against the mainstream. It sounded like he was saying that is never the case and it’s always cowardice, which I totally disagree with. But maybe I misunderstood him

  • @JortsBortly
    @JortsBortly Před 3 lety +13

    8:58
    One time, I watched Quint for the entire in-game day just so I could do a stupid side quest. He was constantly glitching through different realities, phasing though fences and floating outside of the car while driving it. What a guy!

  • @pinkfloyd36123
    @pinkfloyd36123 Před 4 lety +17

    this game really should've been delayed tho, that level of performance and loading isn't acceptable. dp1 may have been a janky game in some aspects but its original release ran well, and dp2 might legit be the worst performing game of the generation outside of the pits of steam. it really hurt the launch of the game as most of it was spent arguing about performance, with ppl claiming dp was always this way and others correcting them. barely heard anyone talk about the game itself outside of this unfortunately. hope it gets fixed with patches or ported to a more powerful system so i can play it

  • @luffy11234
    @luffy11234 Před 4 lety +34

    Ok I understood what you were getting at with the FPS being used cinematically or for part of a gameplay experience... but for this game? I don't longboard at 10 fps man. I played Gundam Crossfire for weeks and tried to convince friends to play with me. But when they said I was mad for thinking it was acceptable to play with that performance I got past thinking low FPS an acceptable experience. I would say you do you but dude, but your really saying your cool with it in this game? THIS? Then what was the patch that came out that fixed it? More cinematic expertise?

  • @falconmanrammer5188
    @falconmanrammer5188 Před 4 lety +25

    This review is very in-depth. One could say you whent frame by frame on this one.
    It's a bad frame rate joke... YOU GET IT!?!

  • @yehuda8589
    @yehuda8589 Před 4 lety +14

    Finally, I thought I was the only person who liked this as much as DP1.

  • @Eddyoshi
    @Eddyoshi Před 4 lety +6

    I get your point with low fps being used to serve a point, like to homage ps1 games and such, but in the case of DP2 it is insanely clear that it was not done for that purpose. Toybox clearly just doesn't know jack about stuff, doing the bare minimum to fulfil the creators vision, and then any time people try to call them out for it it will be followed up with "hey it was intentionally like that". There's low frame rate done for an artistic or meme point, and then there is just incompetence.

  • @ItalianoMobzter7
    @ItalianoMobzter7 Před 4 lety +15

    Yeah I kinda need a stable frame rate, be it 120, 60, 30, hell I can even do 20. This just gives me a headache.

  • @Spagooblio
    @Spagooblio Před 4 lety +18

    Slow loading time? Considering I'm gaming on PCs ranging from potato skin to potato specs for the year I was using them I'm somewhat used to it
    Below 30 fps? Ditto as above, my bread and butter now with a 10 gigs of RAM and potato specs for others
    But when it dips down into a single digit? That's just absolute pain, really begging to be updated to be locked on to 15 fps the lowest or something

    • @strawberrytofu4990
      @strawberrytofu4990 Před 4 lety +3

      Good news then! They just released a patch that makes the framerate tolerable.

  • @robotore
    @robotore Před 4 lety +5

    I really resonated with the intro and your ruminations on the “so bad it’s good” trope. Really put a lot of my feelings on it into words in a way that I’m completely gonna crib in future conversations I will undoubtedly have. Top notch video as always.

  • @heatrayzvideo3007
    @heatrayzvideo3007 Před 4 lety +16

    I think that because deadly premonition is considered ironic that reviewers are overly accepting of its faults - they fear not getting it. It is a meme game after all. Its fine to enjoy the game but its fans can be over zealous in its defence.

  • @MalleusSemperVictor
    @MalleusSemperVictor Před 4 lety +13

    I heard that every copy of the Xbox 360 version of Deadly Premonition was stamped with a single hair from David Lynch's head. Not the PS3 version, though.

    • @shaandahar9091
      @shaandahar9091 Před 6 měsíci +2

      What did you think director’s cut meant?

  • @adampike328
    @adampike328 Před 4 lety +12

    Hated the art style at first with the shell shading and all. But you're critique made it grow on me a little. It really does make things pop and with the colors make everything more lively and comforting. I can handle low frame rates but I think its that the frame rate is so inconstant. I rather have the whole game run at 30(possibly even in the 20's) than have it go from 60 and run outside to 12. Its jarring, and not "SUDA 51 charming" jarring. More "My brain and eyes are annoyed" jarring.

  • @DaltonGoesSlow
    @DaltonGoesSlow Před 4 lety +6

    I was on the fence until you said the part with infinitly spawning crocodiles was really good. I have always been looking for a game with good amount of crocodiles in it, and infinite sounds amazing!
    Thanks for the review/recommendation

  • @waterking74
    @waterking74 Před 4 lety +17

    God d4 story was so interesting... sad will never see a sequel 😭

    • @SebaBraganca
      @SebaBraganca Před 4 lety +4

      D4 was amazing, and I literally never seen anyone even mention it before

    • @Mab809
      @Mab809 Před 4 lety +11

      A sequel?! It's sad we'll never see D4 finished lol

    • @falconmanrammer5188
      @falconmanrammer5188 Před 4 lety +2

      the rageaholic gave it a really fun review in case you're interested.

    • @SebaBraganca
      @SebaBraganca Před 4 lety +1

      @@falconmanrammer5188 I'm checking it out right now

  • @ashureg1354
    @ashureg1354 Před 4 lety +7

    Finally, the most important DP2 review.

  • @jymfiskburk2256
    @jymfiskburk2256 Před 4 lety +9

    So the same composer from Hotel Dusk made the ost for DP2, sold

  • @PedroOver9000
    @PedroOver9000 Před 4 lety +28

    Dunno if you take comment suggestions but maybe check out World of Horror
    literally played it nonstop until I got sick and now I think I'm dying

    • @Grandmaster-Kush
      @Grandmaster-Kush Před 4 lety +1

      +1 Panstasz is a good lad too always takes time to talk to the players

  • @Antnj81
    @Antnj81 Před 4 lety +8

    Aside from the framerate being garbage, this game totally missed the mark from its predecessor. The first game was just the right amount of cheese and awkwardness, with a older gen feel. This game visually seems to have a little too much polish and no longer creates that perfect lightning in a bottle scenario of so bad it's good like the original. It looks like the makers of this game tried their best to replicate with the old game did, without realizing that a large amount of the original games charm was in the amateur presentation. Not to mention, that the original game didn't have framerate issues like this. The original game is a masterpiece and this one just looks like some try hard attempt at recapturing the same feel, without understanding the original or what made it good at all

  • @GrabShiny
    @GrabShiny Před 4 lety +12

    I feel like I'm one of the few people that enjoyed the first game quite a bit, but didn't like the second one much at all. I felt like I enjoyed the original DP despite all it's problems. The second game just felt bad outside of the characters and music. Tedious, boring, and sometimes aggravating to play. I don't think it's other elements worked with the characters/music to make it a better experience like the first game. It's just pulling you out of the experience here.

    • @Etrius0023
      @Etrius0023 Před 4 lety +5

      Yeah, I feel like DP1 had a genuinely good studio behind it but was hurt by the fact that it began development in 2004 with only a vague idea of what "next-gen" hardware entailed and was originally intended to release in 2008 (before the legal issues).
      Although I can't blame Toybox entirely for DP2 either because the story and characters also feel massively inferior to DP1.

    • @scottianson5133
      @scottianson5133 Před rokem

      I love my wonky Twin Peaks/Silent Hill mish mash. I'm happy that people enjoy the sequel but imo it's bad, and I have no desire to play it again.

  • @Flingus435.
    @Flingus435. Před 4 lety +5

    hey thor been watching for a while your content always ceases to amaze me with your editing and comedy style keep it up

  • @user-gu5dv7vj8r
    @user-gu5dv7vj8r Před 4 lety +3

    Twin Peaks had like 10 songs that were re-used over 28 hours of television. and it's still one of the most beloved soundtracks ever. for the exact same reason. feels comfy af.

  • @paulinas2451
    @paulinas2451 Před 2 lety +2

    As someone who loved the first dp i was soured by the second game, but it was nice hearing you talk about it in such a positive light! Great vid

  • @EriksBlue
    @EriksBlue Před 4 lety +6

    Apparently the shooting was tacked on because of upper management it originally wasnt gonna be in the game.

    • @thorhighheels
      @thorhighheels  Před 4 lety +4

      yeah so i heard about that too but couldnt find anything confirm it or not. so i dunno. certainly FEELS that way tho lol

  • @earlyriser03
    @earlyriser03 Před 4 lety +3

    Great analysis Thor! I WANT to go back and replay DP2 for all the side content but the performance creates a really difficult barrier for re-entry. I actually love traversing Le Carre and soaking in it’s minutiae but the load times, low frames, and momentary freezes, which make me worry the game is going to crash (thanks DP1 Switch port), combine to make it a very tedious experience. It’s a shame because this IS a good game but when I can still point to the 360 version of DP1 as the standard bearer for solid technical performance of the series and it’s sequel released 10 years later doesn’t even come close to it well that’s uh...a bit messed up lol. Still I enjoy hearing your opinion on games and this one does not disappoint. Thank you so much for what you do!

  • @ignacioalmenar8855
    @ignacioalmenar8855 Před 4 lety +3

    The five minutes loading times were intentional

  • @DeathToJihad
    @DeathToJihad Před 4 lety +26

    I get where you're coming from, but purposely bad, AKA unpleasant to deal with, gameplay design really shouldn't be a valid aesthetic. While back in the day it certainly didn't ruin games, they were good in spite of such flaws. Or in other words, this game would be a better experience without the poor frame rate, or more importantly, the inconsistent one, with stuttering. I hate to say it, but people being into deliberately bad graphics and such these days is some weird hipster shit, and it's gone too far. I'm not nostalgic about 5th console gen 20 FPS performance, or my desperately playing Halo 1 on a late model Pentium III back in the day. People like what they like, but I hope if this gets ported to PC they fix the framerate.

    • @buildinasentry1046
      @buildinasentry1046 Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah like, ive been playing games at 15 fps for half my life, i could see using low fps in cutscenes because thats a valid cinematic thing but, gameplay like skateboarding? Nah man i feel that should be nice and smooth, i guess for a very niche group, this is what they want but im not too crazy about it.

  • @raphaelhemery152
    @raphaelhemery152 Před 4 lety +1

    I adore this line "I don't think a game ever should be anything that it isn't" at 27:53. I don't always reason that way, but it a very precious perspective when talking about art. A perspective I value your videos so much for.

  • @cuautli6095
    @cuautli6095 Před 4 lety +5

    4:24 being a fallout fan is like seeing you crush making out with your highschool bully

  • @briansilva3765
    @briansilva3765 Před 4 lety +1

    The editing, style and writing of your videos are always on another level.

  • @Gilluria
    @Gilluria Před 3 lety +2

    I can't help but love the fact that the PAL case for the 360 version of DP1 has a giant 10/10 on it

  • @SpartanBerseker
    @SpartanBerseker Před 4 lety +3

    THORHIGHEELS IN THE COFFEE

  • @Rogley919
    @Rogley919 Před 4 lety +5

    12:05 your thwomp sounds ended up sounding like chunky kong from dk64

  • @Jetsetlemming
    @Jetsetlemming Před 4 lety +2

    Your discussion on framerate left out something important. I also grew up playing old low framerate games. Most of us did, the n64 Zelda games were locked at 20fps iirc. The thing that made them okay is the lock. Variable framerates that vary wildly have some very real concrete bad effects: they make your expected control inputs weird, because the input lag is effected by the update rate of the image on the screen. This frequently results in frustration, headaches, and nausea. From what I'm seeing in this video, DP2 is willing to jump from 60 fps to 6 depending on what's on screen, and that's really, really bad. That makes the game physically feel worse for a lot of people, and can physically make them sick or in pain. That goes beyond the bounds of an artistic choice imo.

    • @thorhighheels
      @thorhighheels  Před 4 lety

      yeah i didn't actually know low fps could make someone physically ill. I absolutely would've mentioned it if I did. tho if a game wants to make someone physically feel bad to convey something, a game could still then use that as a deliberate choice, specifically for that purpose. not saying dp2 at all tries that mind u, but i don't feel that makes it go beyond the bounds of artistic choice at all.

  • @segagirladventurespico
    @segagirladventurespico Před rokem +1

    Great editing I need to pick up this game :) lol your videos are great i laugh a lot watching them

  • @MosesMedinaE
    @MosesMedinaE Před 2 lety +1

    It's been on my backlog since release. Just got it and beat it last night. Loved your video.

  • @DemonChisae3112
    @DemonChisae3112 Před 4 lety +2

    Love your videos ❤️ clicked on as soon as I saw it ❤️

  • @carmelcity9527
    @carmelcity9527 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this video! I enjoyed playing DP2. Is it flawed? Absolutely. Do I prefer the first game? Yes. But there was so much I loved about DP2, and the ending felt so satisfying to me. I wanted to see more York and Zach, and I really love those characters, so it was a blast getting dive back into this wonderfully weird world of Swery’s with them. I appreciate your honesty and overall positive feelings about the game. Great video!

  • @koffiefilter
    @koffiefilter Před 8 měsíci

    “Well that visual quality is a good reminder of those days.” 😂😂

  • @ItsJustChurch
    @ItsJustChurch Před 4 lety +2

    Hey, my most recent video talked about Deadly Premonition 1 and 2! I’m glad Swery is getting more attention!

  • @rgmusic4769
    @rgmusic4769 Před 4 lety +5

    I will say great video Ned I always love to see your "so Ive been playing" series you have opened me to another level of jank jank and dumpster fires deadly premonition 1 being my dumpster fire, if you beat the whole game before it got the update patch frames you are the only youtuber who has Big Chad Pee-Pee Energy, but I will not watch this video simply for the spoilers I will return in the future for your point of views on the game I will say this
    Best skateboard physics on grass Swery 10/10

  • @zubrhero5270
    @zubrhero5270 Před 2 lety

    York reminds me of that one Bill Burr podcast story about the skateboarder in the casual night out clothes, log-rolling his way down the hill.

  • @raioh4747
    @raioh4747 Před 3 lety +1

    Spiderman spiderverse is proof you can mess with framerate as a tool for artistic expression in your media

  • @WolfPlisken
    @WolfPlisken Před 4 lety +1

    Hey Thor! I’m a huge fan of your content and I’m actually friends with Swery on Facebook and sent him your video! I hope he checks it out!

  • @HAYABUS41
    @HAYABUS41 Před 4 lety +1

    A very good reason to watch your videos is to revisit Hotel Dusk/Last Window soundtracks playing in the background, love them.
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    And I like your reviews of course...

  • @MemeLordCthulhu
    @MemeLordCthulhu Před rokem +1

    I bet thor never played morrowind if he's gonna say bethesda only makes bad games. Shit's the best rpg I've ever played, but I like the ability to role play in an rpg

  • @mattsmokes2505
    @mattsmokes2505 Před 2 lety

    Bro I’ve been watching your videos all day and on and off the last couple of weeks and you are by far the most underrated channel on CZcams I find these subjects so fascinating it’s like this channel is perfectly made for me

  • @MrGrayNk
    @MrGrayNk Před 4 lety +4

    Have you finished the game? There are 4 dungeons, not 3. And I have a lot of trouble calling the plot very well built having seen what fuckery goes on in the fourth chapter.
    As for the framerate: there's a difference when it's low on purpose and when it's just a rushed game, with not just low fps, but freezes that makes my head hurt, crashes and softlocks. I was waiting for the minigames softlock to be patched for two weeks, because I just couldn't progress. And I was not able to finish three side quests because they bugged out. And I had to replay a lost hour of progress when it simply crashed.
    There's a lot of rationalizing going on in this video. It's cool that you liked it in this state, but maybe people should know a bit more of the downsides to not get burned by a glowing review like this.
    As for me, I very much enjoyed the first chapter. After that it just felt like going through the motions just to see the clusterfuck that was the ending (the scene after the credits was great tho). I felt it was a big step down from the first game, at least storywise

  • @jamalgoblinschlong
    @jamalgoblinschlong Před 4 lety +1

    I agree with about everything you said. This is a modern game but despite that managed to capture the feel of some of my favorites like Hotel Dusk, The Last Window, and Flower, sun, and Rain. The game doesn't have to be flawless to be amazing as was evident by the first one.
    I consider DP1 to be a legitimate 10/10 game after its final ~3 hours were the best hours I have spent in any game, and even though DP2 didn't blow me away the same way the first one did, I felt at home playing it, and finishing it made me miss all the chacters.
    And the hotel theme slaps hard.

  • @troubleinbound
    @troubleinbound Před 3 lety +1

    For some reason I love the fact that SWERY denies having ever seen Twin Peaks or True Detective. I can imagine him saying this with a shit eating grin, looking the reporter directly in the eye just to fuck with them

  • @UDontTakeMeSeriously
    @UDontTakeMeSeriously Před 4 lety

    you make my favorite video essays, almost no matter the topic. thank you for existing.

  • @wickedgrinaz
    @wickedgrinaz Před 4 lety

    Your sense of humor just gets me, right where I like it. You are criminally underviewed.

  • @SunglassesAfterDark23
    @SunglassesAfterDark23 Před 4 lety +1

    Bruh how are you this underrated?!

  • @johnsilverman656
    @johnsilverman656 Před 4 lety +3

    "It isn't like the room or haha Bethesda games..." AMAZING

  • @MasterAdam100
    @MasterAdam100 Před 4 lety +1

    T..H..H....In the Suggestions! Zach, I think I should watch this video....

  • @jon4715
    @jon4715 Před 4 lety +1

    Can you review 'Vroom in the Night Sky' for Switch? It was a launch title, and it is pretty bad, but incredibly charming, and actually surprisingly fun to play and beat.

  • @derekkrumel1407
    @derekkrumel1407 Před rokem

    Jake Generican the Small-Town American is comedy gold and I hope I never forget.

  • @BlazeThroughSpeedRuns
    @BlazeThroughSpeedRuns Před 2 lety

    You have sold me on playing/streaming this amazing piece of art. Thank you!

  • @Aaron-gt2qe
    @Aaron-gt2qe Před 3 lety

    I love that you stand by your opinions but in terms finding the value in DP2, this video deserves a gold medal in mental gymnastics

  • @saedt
    @saedt Před 4 lety

    I love your view on games, your chulip vid and that part where you talk about arrogance being part of why an artist is an artist was very inspiring.

  • @hemangchauhan2864
    @hemangchauhan2864 Před 4 lety +2

    Man, the art style on this is genuinely AMAZING!

  • @Eon2641
    @Eon2641 Před 3 lety +2

    Personally my problem with the frame rate is that it makes me f*ckin' _queasy_ and I can't imagine I'd be able to play it for long. That said I've played older games with framerate issues and they never really bothered me, I don't have a problem with someone playing around with the framerate artistically unless they make it so choppy it makes me sick.

  • @GREATGAIWAIN
    @GREATGAIWAIN Před 4 lety +3

    There's a video I would recommend you watch. It's about a guy talking about DB: Kakarot and how they found the things in it they expected to find and how that kind of analysis can be kind of self-defeating. By Thor High Heels. Great person. Cause that spiel on frame rate was... reaching at best. I fully agree that frame rate can be a tool and that low frame rates can be an artistic expression but nothing about this game gave me the idea that it was anything but poor optimization. Unless you're also going to argue that a minute+ loading screen was also on purpose and served to make the player chill out between door frames because vacation.

    • @thorhighheels
      @thorhighheels  Před 4 lety +6

      i never argued that the game DID it on purpose tho. i just argued that games in general can do that, and that i dont care if dp2 did or not as i dont mind either way. i even directly call out the publishers for releasing a "blatantly unfinished product" during that same bit.

  • @UnitingMilk
    @UnitingMilk Před 4 lety

    dude i love your embracing of 'poor' elements in games and contextualizing it in a way that fits the message of the game and also fuck that frame rate and loading times fix that shit please it's just so annoying lol pls

  • @Unquestionable
    @Unquestionable Před 4 lety

    Been looking forward to your take on this for a minute. I put in a good ten hours and been meaning to get back to it, hopefully this week, and it's given me this interesting feeling. It's like returning to a place one vacationed at as a child, they have a distinct version of it in their head only to find the reality being a mishmash of different yet familiar.

  • @d0g642
    @d0g642 Před 3 lety +1

    happy to hear im not the only one who is barely affected by shitty framerates due to playing on old laptops without gpus for years

  • @SebbyZero
    @SebbyZero Před 4 lety

    Nice touch with the hotel dusk music, York and Kyle Hyde rock !

  • @Rommulo35628
    @Rommulo35628 Před 4 lety +44

    So happy to see York being based again. Dude is capable of making Silent Hill feel comfy.

  • @FrankieSmileShow
    @FrankieSmileShow Před 4 lety +1

    Epic thwomp moment or big muscle music from Lisa the painful rpg

  • @Therian13
    @Therian13 Před rokem +1

    11:00 until they start talking about Deadly Premonition 2. Beforehand is mostly filler about what Deadly Premonition 1 was about.

  • @scoRp471scorp471
    @scoRp471scorp471 Před 4 lety +1

    Huh I might be sold on both games now. I'm not so sure if I can agree on the framerate part, but I'll give it a shot

  • @CamuiNox
    @CamuiNox Před 4 lety +1

    Been curiously watching DP2 ever since the reveal, having never played the first game. But then I see gameplay and remind myself that I prefer more frames in a second than seconds in a frame ;) What I've seen of the performance gives me flashbacks to Virtual Hylide... And yet, I can still see the appeal of the game, thankfully. Maybe someday..

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 Před 4 lety

      The gameplay of dp2 is a complete after thought that nobody who enjoyed the game bothers to care about, it's 100% it's unique weirdness in it's character's and it's story that makes it a joy to experience

  • @mrjohnnyk
    @mrjohnnyk Před 4 lety

    Wow fantastic review. Glad I found your channel. Subbed!

  • @josefkrenshaw179
    @josefkrenshaw179 Před 4 lety +1

    Everyone knows that Malcolm McDowell's best film is Lindsay Anderson's "O Lucky Man!".

  • @JennyTheNerdBat
    @JennyTheNerdBat Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks to this video, I feel more validated in playing Persona 5 on PC through emulation with 10-15FPS dips in crowded areas, lol.

  • @martycooper1452
    @martycooper1452 Před 4 lety +1

    Thor and deadly premonition! Guaranteed banger of a video.
    Also I would love to hear your thoughts on the game Judgement.

    • @SullivanDoesGames
      @SullivanDoesGames Před 4 lety +1

      I think he talked about it another video contextualizing combat in games!

    • @martycooper1452
      @martycooper1452 Před 4 lety

      @@SullivanDoesGames oh, I must've missed that one. Thanks!

  • @ranewolfe19
    @ranewolfe19 Před 4 lety +1

    Thor, have you played Horizon Zero Dawn? I'm interested in your take on the story and the game as a whole

  • @wingtype0078
    @wingtype0078 Před 4 lety

    One of the best content creators on the platform! Love from Italy

  • @wildonionchase3934
    @wildonionchase3934 Před 4 lety +1

    Small correction, we’re never introduced to David’s “owner of the hotel personality/occupation” which I am still quite miffed about! But only a little.

    • @stormstory9765
      @stormstory9765 Před 4 lety

      You do on Sunday. It's an optional encounter and not voiced, but you can meet him. He will be with his sister most of the day.

    • @wildonionchase3934
      @wildonionchase3934 Před 4 lety

      Storm Story Really? That’s fantastic, I want to meet him even if it’s an unvoiced cameo. SWERY’s a mad, brilliant dog of a developer sometimes.

  • @mongobongo3338
    @mongobongo3338 Před 4 lety

    I just came to say I love your work on umarangi generations! I haven’t even played the game, I just like the soundtrack!

  • @minamur
    @minamur Před 4 lety +1

    when i go to a movie theatre (back when we used to do that), and the film isn't lined up in the projector properly, that's a vibe, and who am i to say *every* movie should have the film fully projected on the screen.

    • @thorhighheels
      @thorhighheels  Před 4 lety +1

      i mean someone who grew up going to a shitty ass movie theater erry week may have vibes related to it, that they'll then express in their work later on in life on purpose. anything can be an artistic choice. doesnt mean that u have to like it obvs but still. id rather keep an open mind to shit like that.

  • @augustoschimuda7096
    @augustoschimuda7096 Před 4 lety

    great fucking video as always
    i discovered your channel through your SH music video, and i am binge watching you since early june
    i don't know any channel like yours here in Brazil, and everytime i see your content my brain and heart just goes wild to produce my content as well
    keep inspiring me, you're great at this

  • @cerebraxis607
    @cerebraxis607 Před 3 lety

    I'm right there with you on your description of how you look at games.

  • @DaltonGoesSlow
    @DaltonGoesSlow Před 4 lety +2

    I gamed on a potato. I used to only play games that had low graphics mods. Lots of gunz the duel at 10fps lmao. Most recently I played ds3 at barely 30fps at 720p low on a work laptop. Low fps can't hurt me.

  • @IDSearcher
    @IDSearcher Před 4 lety +2

    28:12 Dude, did you just call old pixel art garbage in the same breath you used to defend poor frame rate? Even PS1 games tried to reach 30 FPS, usually.
    Original Mega Man or Castlevania? Garbage. Having your average frame rate on the clock? What a bold artistic expression!

    • @Rihcterwilker
      @Rihcterwilker Před 4 lety +1

      You're taking "garbage" to it's literal meaning, which is not the case here. It's just artistic license, Thor tends to say alot of stuff is "garbage", which really means something like "not to the standards of your everyday AAA game".

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird Před 4 lety +1

    Defo wanna watch this vid but, are there story spoilers? It’ll still be a while before I can get my hands on the game 😞

    • @psxcsomething6114
      @psxcsomething6114 Před 4 lety +1

      I just watched it and he doesnt spoil the games story but he shows in one part some bosses but I dont feel like I have been spoiled at all, so I think you are safe to watch it

    • @TheBeird
      @TheBeird Před 4 lety +2

      @@psxcsomething6114 Thanks man, appreciated :)

    • @psxcsomething6114
      @psxcsomething6114 Před 4 lety +1

      @@TheBeird no problem man!