A VIEWER sent me this FAULTY Docking Station | Can I FIX It?
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- čas přidán 13. 10. 2023
- Many Thanks to Adam for sending this faulty MagBac Docking Station over to me. He says it stopped working and now the power supply flashes green, instead of a SOLID light.
Let's open this bad boy up and see if we can work out what's wrong!
Hope you enjoy!
Steve
PS. I'm not an expert in repairs at all. I do this for fun, and it may not be the best or safest way to go about repairing broken stuff. I'm pretty good at melting plastic though. Please don't copy me - I'm an idiot.
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Stupid MagBac
Looks fixed to me. Done!
How can he add a comment 2 days ago😂😂
try it on your steam deck? you can put external screens on that with the usb-c so it should work with that hub?
@SovietCaptain03 It gets uploaded for Patreon members' and other paid memberships to view and comment earlier than anyone else.
It's clearly fixed, just hook it up like you did and put a sd card or USB stick in it. It will show up on your pc ! Good job !!!
@StezStixFix It was me who sent you the dock. Can confirm it is not thunderbolt and should work with any usb-c device. I used to use it with a HP laptop. Iirc the light on the front should be on without anything plugged in. Great video btw - was really interesting to see how you approached identifying the issue. All the best from Fife!
Don’t even believe it was you to be honest :)
Why would be say he was when he wasn't, that just dont make any sense 😂
@@Dsbarrynldon't bother, some people are idiots. There really is no arguing with them. Best thing to do is let them think they are right
Where abouts in Fife, I’m in Leven?
@@theinstallerguy786 Jeez how many fifers in one niche place. I'm just up outside Anstruther 🤣
Brilliant Steve another “SOLID” fix thanks
The music during the soldering was especially rock *solid* this time, cheers!
Well done Steve ... I’m guessing that the reason that the shorted mosfet didn’t glow brightly was because the psu was tripping off and so not much juice was reaching it ... probably a bench psu on current limit might have been clearer. Still, you managed to pinpoint it which is the important thing. Maybe use something non-conductive as a pointing/prodding tool 😀
Keep up the great work 😀👍
i like how the wire weave soaks up the solder, looks neat
Absolutely love your videos! I have done so many repairs with your lead that normally I would NEVER have attempted! You are awesome!
Steve! Love your style man, never change 💙 I've only been subbed a few months but went back and watched a huge chunk of your content and I absolutely love the progression of the entire channel. Question for you Steve, what got you into electronic repairs?
this is main power mosfet. You do not need to use the same one. Any mosfet with same polarity and current will do the work. You can find them in any donor laptop, power supply, power bank ....
So.. By the looks of your Device Manager, you have an AMD laptop. Because Thunderbolt is designed to work with Intel boards, AMD (unless it has a specific card) won't be able to detect the dock as Thunderbolt, and will (if the dock supports it) fall back to a standard USB-C dock.
The fact the laptop detects it as a USB dock suggests to me it is working correctly - only way to be sure is to plug it into a Thunderbolt enabled PC or laptop. But I suspect you've fixed it anyway.
Nice.
Aaaah, thank you, yes that makes sense! 👍
@@WhiteG60To be fair there is some degree of compatibility between USB 3.x and Thunderbolt (USB 3.1 combined with USB-C can support an alternate thunderbolt mode), but afaik it has always been really hit and miss. -- The sticking point is that it was really hard to know whether you could use any particular device+computer combination.
@@StezStixFix From what I have found and it looks like the same one that you have gotten. It is a docking station that works Universal so it will work with Mac (Thunderbolt) Desktop and laptops (USB)
@@gamercat1894yes, but the usb has to be Thunderbolt compliant and not every laptop has thunderbolt compliant usb ports. No ones suggesting it isn't universal.
@@medes5597 okay. It was just what I found about the product.
I love your channel. I learned how to solder because of you. I like your style :)
Nicely done Steve!
I feel a CD release of all your raps coming soon 😂
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Bloody hope not...
In time for Christmas 😂
I've felt a shiver of terror on my spine with the mere idea of that release.
It would have to be a cassette.
I'm actually surprised that you was able to find the MOSFET with it's own power supply. The flashing LED means it was tripping. This usually means the faulty part doesn't have enough time to heat up because the power supply is detecting a fault and shutting off power. DC variable bench power supplies how ever do not care if there is a fault and keep outputting the power regardless. Giving the faulty component a chance to heat up.
Faulty components don't necessarily heat up.
@@oldguy9051 They do when they fail short like this did. But it's clear it wasn't getting as hot as it could have, which is likely because of how the overcurrent protection in the power supply was working. It was staying off just long enough to let the short cool a bit before coming back on. It was almost acting like a PID controller.
i was thing the same, what a well designed power brick, going safe, am wondering as it one of the plug it in and leave it pluged in? things, what would happen, if it was just left, left doing it low green flashy thing? for days, week, until some noticed it was not working, next time a laptop/phone was pluged in to it?
Either input works, be it Thunderbolt or USB. It just matters if the device you connect can use all of the hardware in the dock and the drivers are installed on the device.
Perhaps the other chips inside would be a clue as to who the real manufacturer is. i am sure magbac is some strange made up name for branding a generic docking solution.
I too belted out Don't Look Back in Anger when it was played on the radio today!😁
Intresting never seen a mac docking station great video
They definitely exist, though being based on Thunderbolt limited the use of them to Macs which supported it. Apple's always doing something weird and proprietary.
Have you measured the air temp coming out of your hot air gun? I wonder if lower air flow gives more time for the air to heat up to the desired temp . If the heating element is underpowered that would explain the problems when you turned up the air flow. ...
Great song at the end
When you are looking for max temperatures with the thermal camera, have a look at the range on the right-hand side of the display. The max is there, whereas your guess under the crosshairs might not be the max. Just before you took it out-of-shot at 5:45, the max was 41.1 -- 5 degrees higher than what you found.
Using the same meter as me, you gained a new sub lol.
Great video
I have a similar product made by Targus. The fact your PC recognised at as a hub is good, as it IS a hub for all your laptop peripherals.
Connect a monitor to it via HDMI, plug a keyboard via USB and a mouse via USB and voila, you have a working dock. I used mine with 2 monitors. I stopped using it because of graphics issues, this maybe due to the fact my laptop is 10 years old and uses an outdated Nvidia chip with Intel onboard graphics, even with all graphics drivers updated, problems persisted that are not problems when laptop is used normally.
Heya Steve, might want to give that dock try with your SteamDeck.
I've been using an HP thunderbolt dock with it, and can use all of the functions of the dock (audio, networking etc) without issue.
Worth a shot?
That will 99.99% work, because the Steam Deck does support USB-C DisplayPort.
Was going to suggest the same.
Wtf is this device even suppose to do?! I watched this video in parts and as a conclusion even the dude repairing it doesn't know.
I honestly would sell the damn thing and move on, seems like a pointless and overall useless device for many of us ...
@@minmogrovingstrongandhealthyIt's basically a bunch of ports including monitor connections and power, which plugs in with a single USB-C. This means you can have a full setup on your desk - monitor, keyboard, mouse, network cable, laptop charger - then plug your laptop in with a single cable to both charge the laptop and use all the accessories, turning the laptop into a desktop with a single plug. Going somewhere? Just unplug the laptop and go.
These are commonly used in businesses with "hot desk" arrangements, where each desk will have monitors, keyboard, mouse and network, but you bring your work-assigned laptop to any available desk, plug it in and start working.
They also reduce the fatigue on the connected devices ports
Hi Steve. Can i just say, putting a cold IC on a very hot pad can damage it (Thermal shock), What i would do is heat up the pad with the IC already seated. This will heat them both together. :)
Just a thought.
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Great fix! What is it? 😅
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Nice
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Steve it has an HDMI plug on it. Plug it into your telly and see if it displays anything. It has a micro SD card on it so maybe it can read files off the card. Throw some pics or mp3s on it.
You can plug a higher end Samsung smartphone (S22 works for sure) in with a USB-C to USB-C cable and it should work with a monitor or two monitors. As well as charging, mouse and keyboard usage
When is the album coming out Steve?
Don't encourage him lol
Cute bear!
Can’t believe you solid tested a MOSFET 😅
Should have played the song
...... " return of the mac "
You could copy the hardware id in device manager (properties) and google the driver. Maybe windows installs the wrong one :)
Did you check the capacitors again after replacing the mosfet. They'll probably need changing as well. I'd like to see a follow up. Liking you vids my Mandingo.
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There is a third option. I like to see the disassembly, so I mute instead of skip. 😆
Try using one or more of the other ports. Plug in an external monitor to one of the HDMI ports, plug in a micro-sd card. That kind of thing.
Damn, a year later and your sub count was still 117K subs? Slow year!
I joke, nice work as always Steve.
It might work with a Nintendo switch. But make sure you use a thunderbolt cable. A normal usb c to c cable will not work(for display for example
your steamdeck should works with that
@12:48 better than factory 😎
It clearly has a USB hub inside, but if you connect via usb-c, I am pretty sure you should at least be able to check the networking part (cable), you might even be able to hook up a display to it.
Try plugging it into your phone, then add a keyboard, mouse, usb stick, hdmi to tv etc to test it.
Love the vids, but you should get a multimeter with less annoying sound
Should just need standard USB-C - thunderbolt shouldn't be needed for this. It's acting like a USB hub and it looks like everything was detected. nice work! solid!
I'll make a comment about USB-C and Thunderbolt Docks. Cables matter!
Thunderbolt 3 normally needs to be 19-20 conductors and no more than 24" in length I belive.
However, most Thunderbolt docks also allow USB-C which only requires 12-14 conductors and up to 48" for PD.
Just did a lot of docking research and troubleshooting when our university moved to newer models of Dell having Thunderbolt 3/4 and the various docks people purchased and used over 2020 through today at home and work. Most of the Dell Docks limit it to 12-14" for the cable length to avoid communication issues in Thunderbolt 3/4.
Thunderbolt Standard says 3 meters (10') but I've never had success with users replacing these cables with cheap knock-offs or longer cables and/or extension adapters. Most of my Thunderbolt 3/4 cables are less than 20".
there are plug adapters on eBay, that would connectors , but that that would been an interesting to see, it working doing something? anything or nothing? but the your video, said it was a USB3.0 HUB, that's right, everything USB something? If your started plugging things into the available port sockets and see what happened?
Thats deffo a USB C dock. Additionally, I used to plug my galaxy s8 phone into a dock for the desktop experience. Some phones play properly with docks and you can output to a display and have all the benefits that come with it
Thunderbolt typically supports USB connectivity. For example Thunderbolt 3 (which was the first to use the USB-C connector, instead of its own) supports USB 3.1 Gen 2. So yeah, if you plug it into a USB connection, it will still work. You just wont get the benefits of Thunderbolt. But I don't believe this unit is thunderbolt, since it doesn't have the symbol near the port to identify that it is a Thunderbolt port.
I couldn't see the thunderbolt ⚡so may just be a USB-C with DisplayLink, or, DP over USB-C pass thru, in which case you should be able to connect up a screen via the displayport and accessories.
Most newer phones will do video out also.
The Lenovo thunderbolt docks refuse to do anything without a thunderbolt connection, I presume that's the case here as well
Ever try SMD solder paste?
it is just tiny sodder balls floating in flux, it makes some jobs easier but nothing special
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Steve, you need a Macbook Pro ❤
Connect an apple using a banana and it should work 😂
These types of device register all the integrated hardware as USB devices (the display adapters will be displaylink devices, etc.) They will all connect to a root hub within the device
These hubs almost never use Thunderbolt, but USB-C DisplayPort, so that you can connect peripherals and monitors up to it.
Why they call them "Thunderbolt" Docks is because a Thunderbolt Port will always support USB-C DisplayPort (and more), so end-users will not falsly use it on a USB-C port lacking that feature and then return it/complain about it.
stupidity is a constellation
Has to be connected to a laptop yeah, that way the GPU can be directly connected to it via PCIe.
On just a PC with an external GPU, you won't get video out as the internal GPU is disabled, you will just see usb, but you should see the extra ethernet port in device manager. If it were thunderbolt, the usb C uplink port on the dock would have a lightning bolt
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First time I didn’t skip the rap 😅
I don't see why it wouldn't have a fallback USB 3.1 mode, as well as being Thunderbolt compatible. Maybe plug a surplus USB Mouse or storage in and see if you get anywhere. Thunderbolt as a whole seems pretty finicky, it has been rebranded as "USB 4" and anyone can add it to their PC. Whether Intel provides working drivers seems to be another matter entirely.
I've got a Lenovo T480 that worked with an Orico NVMe dock, which I plugged an RX6400 into using a "mining" M.2 to PCIe x4 adaptor. But sadly the Lenovo was using a x2 lane Thunderbolt controller, so it was a bit bottlenecked.
At 6:14 is that a random blob of solder
the melted solder ball tells you that mosfet got really hot. and is likley your culprit.
unleaded solder seems to be a pain to deal with
It is.
Please don't look back in anger
Should work with higher end android device like Galaxy S10, 20 or newer, my S21FE works great with docking station for Dell laptops, including sound, usb, display port output. Also should work with Nintendo Switch.
Plug it into a Granny Smith and see. 😁
When you look that good, you don’t have to “know” anything.
Don't you have a steam deck?
Just attach ist and see if HDMI works. And put a SD Card in the slot, if that is found too, it works.
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Working fine plug a USB mouse, Ethernet cable to test
For a repair like this you need a PCB heater, like a Weller WHP 200 (so some cheap Chinese knock off probably, because the Weller ones are 850 Euros or something stupid). It's stops the heat you put into the area you want to solder from "wicking away" into the ground pour of the PCB.
I made a delightfully dangerous, Big Clive style, mains powered one, which, for obvious reasons, I won't share, but it's saved my bacon numerous times since I made it. I had put a 96-pin connector on a fairly thick, plated through hole, multilayer PCB (with internal power and ground planes) and, unfortunately, it was the wrong kind: male instead of female. Wouldn't come off again, even with a solder sucker and hot air. Built the hot plate and finally got it off again, 6 to 8 pins at a time... total nightmare. But, later, for SMD components featuring large pads it worked a treat and still does.
not really, no, the pcb heate heats a big board to make things easier, but it is needed for big chips, that tiny thing was remived and installed no problem
no traces broken, no need for that
In theory this should just work with USB 3. You may not get all the features like the HDMI ports. but everything else should just work fine.
You should be able to use it as a usb 3.0 hub
use your steamdeck
Wait, there are actually people who skip the raps?!? Moops
I believe you can connect your phone if it's android
It''s a hand written letter. That is so sweet. ♥
Probably needs to be a thnderbolt compliant usb outlet on the computer to get the thunderbolt. And also a thunderbolt compliant cable. Contraty to other commenterstatements there are amd based systems that support thunderbolt. Like for example ASUS mini pcs but it needs to be compliant all the way down the line. You can have thunderbolt over usb-c but unless the computer has a thunderbolt controller its a no go and usually not all outlets are compliant either.
The big issue is that having a USB-C connector doesn't guarantee that the USB controller supports all the /potential/ functions that are defined in various versions of the USB 3 standard. Alas, unlike USB 2 (aka 2.0), we got USB 3.0, 3.1 Gen 1, 3.1 Gen 2, 3.2 Gen 1, and 3.2 Gen 2. And worse, USB 3.2 can support multiple "lanes" (think PCIe style).
@@jnharton Yes that is almost exactly what I said.
Checking if the solder was solid was totally useless. Those short legs shouldn't move at all even if they wasn't solid ...
as far as I know thunderbolt works with any usb c devices.
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Plug a fairly modern Samsung phone into it and it and it will start Dex
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It should work through usb. Just plug it in like you had it, then connect it to a tv.
It's a USB-C hub. NOT a Thunderbolt hub. Thunderbolt is a protocol that runs OVER USB-C. I think you've confused the two.
Just plug in any USB-C device and check to see if the hub is working. Simple test.
I think it's just USB 3.0. If it was Thunderbolt it should have the lightning logo next to the USB-C port. If it doesn't have the lightning bolt, then it's not thunderbolt and it's just regular USB.
Unfortunately USB 3.x is plagued with all kinds of weird symbols both main and secondary.--- There is a lightning symbol on some laptops' usb 3.x ports that simply signify that power is available even when the laptop is powered off. Also, the presence of a battery symbol sometimes indicates that USB Power Delivery (PD) functionality is present. And that means that the connected devices can negotiate how much power is provided.
It actually looks like that. That "thing" is mostly used to display a laptop on multiple screens at once either via mirror or extended. It detects it as a USB Root hub since... is a hub.
If it's a "root hub" that suggests that the dock contains a USB controller that uses thunderbolt as it's connection to the system
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You know people are normal when they sand a letter.
Now THAT typo made my day. 😂
Buy an old broken thunderbolt laptop. Fix it. Then use it to test this dock.
Thunderbolt CAN work with USB C... Even as an IT guy that's hard to answer, though. It depends on the functionality built into that specific device. USB C might work with half the functionality, all of it, or even none of it.
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I had a tcl dlat screen tv that worked when it was just oit of the box. I turnes it off and went out and tuened it back on soon after and the power supply did tbat sa. Blinking thing.