is Cities Skylines 2 good yet?
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
- Is Cities Skylines 2 good now?
With a set of new mods just released as well as some updated versions of old mods, Cities Skylines 2 is getting better. (mostly)
In this video we'll go over the Find It, Extra 3.0 and Traffic Mods as well as a number of custom assets in Cities Skylines 2. The game IS getting better, however, performance is still a moderate concern, but overall, this is a great development and modders are truly doing amazing work!
With the improvements brought about by modders, Cities Skylines 2 is fixed to some extent, but it DOES still need a lot of work. This is definitely a promising development.
Please no harsh negativity in the comments but feel free to disagree or critique the game, etc. An honest discussion of the game in its current state is encouraged. :)
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0:00 - Intro
0:12 - Using Mods for Detailing
4:14 - Custom Assets (Sorta)
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6:18 - Performance Issues
7:09 - Full Mod Playset
8:22 - Is it enough to come back to CS2?
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You enunciate very well
OK, so the serious comment... I like what I see, but the mods situation seems like it is still early days for them.
It definitely is. Move It is still REALLY rudimentary and kind of a hassle to use ...Traffic ONLY does lane connections but has some neat features. Everything feels like it's in its infancy, but it's definitely turned my opinion on the game to a more hopeful place.
@@CitiesByDiana the ultimate development will be a working asset editor. When there are Mr. Maison trees and King Leno buildings, we will have arrived.
I hope.
@@An_Economist_PlaysI’m waiting for some European assets by Titan and Feindbold to become available before I purchase the game. I’d also love to see some cool industrial assets by Avanya.
This game has so much potential it's insane. Once assets and the economy rework are out, it'll be so good
ive been WAITING for mixed use row zoning!!!! i was totally expecting it in base game but im glad its out now
All I can say is it's getting there like CPP says just not yet once costom assets comes then it becomes what it should have been in launch but should have taken extra years.
First off, Diana, I love your videos. Seriously.
Second - can you imagine releasing a video game that is 'getting good now' because of non-paid volunteers who have nothing to do with the company? So sad.
Cities Skylines 1 was the same way unfortunately.
@@flyguy1237 I dunno, it just felt more polished than 2, which I know doesn’t say much lol. I’ve played a lot of CS1 vanilla and modded and found myself having fun both ways, but haven’t touched CS2 since launch day and logging 5 hours.
I don't remember what problems Arena had but at least every Bethesda game since Dagerfall. They did put out a patch to fix the main quest (1) but it took mods to fix all the duplicate place names, restore some cut content and a few other quirks.
1) Which was significantly more fun back in 1996. I got mine from PC Gamer or Computer Games Strategy Plus I think? It was a long time ago
Some things to consider:
1: Employees only work 9 to 5, have sick days, holidays, approval procedures, and many, many other hoops to jump through to make improvements to the game.
2: Modders mod the game out of passion, they will often stay up nights and weekends working on their peojects and are willing to try and new and wacky things. Employees, meanwhile, mostly get paid as long as they hit a certain minimum standard of productivity. Many devs dont even play their own games ever. Hence, a modder will always aspire to more than an employee who has no stake in the quality of the game outside their monthly paycheck.
3: The pool of creative idea in a game's modding scene is by default higher, as modders are part of a community of thousands to tens of thousands of active players, while a game dev company will maybe have 150 employees working on a given game (unless they are ubisoft, lol).
Hence: Mods will always surpass company-created products, look at Dota vs Warcraft 3, look at the plurality of modded Starcraft 2 experiences, Skyrim mods and total conversion like Enderal, Stellaris with vs without mods, and the list goes on. Mods make gaming great, otherwise they are most often just consumerist slop made by emotionally uninvested people.
Tl;dr: Capitalism bad 😂
@@wfb.subtraktor311 I get it - I mod a ton of games on my PC... just frustrating that the amount of sales made of CS2 couldn't help it's launch state. Just a disappointed Deluxe Edition owner.
Unfortunately until the simulation and optimization are not taken care of, the game will continue to be a beautiful-looking city painter game
There was a time when CS1 was perfect. It was sometime between launch and when one gets frustrated with out-dated mods or assets. Trouble is, that timing is different for every player. Same for CS2, When it gets perfect, we wont know it till that time has passed.
That time for me for CS1 was when EML was the big mod set for prop anarchy etc, even tho it's outdated now I still use it
Cars placed with find it disappear because they are teleported to the closest actual parking space. They are not props, they are functional vehicles.
That makes sense 😂
It's good to *finally* see the potential of this game coming into focus. Thanks for these highlights.
agreed. it's gonna be a slow grind for it to get there but this gives me hope
Glad you are back with us on CS2 .. I've been missing your unique take on city building .. ONE MORE LANE! . I've stuck with it from the beginning .. and all the new mods and assets take it to a higher level .. and really last two major hurdles is continuing performance tweaks and truly custom assets (which CO/Paradox says are coming this summer) .. welcome back :)
The way you leave empty spaces to fill in with detailling goes to one of my major issues with the way the build system works in the CS games in general.
Most normal players feel compelled by the game to plaster every bit of space with something "useful", which is generally just buildings or roads. The idea that you could just leave a bit of empty area for decoration barely even comes up.
Manor Lords is a neat current example to the opposite, where you actually are encouraged to make parcels bigger to leave room for additional expansions or to improve the effectiveness of certain add-ons like gardens.
I would love if CS2 or a potential CS3 ever came around to address this fundamentally. To allow us to define plots that will not be fully developed, but leave empty space either for decoration or real game-play purposes. Like instead of just placing a commercial zoning that will be 100% filled with structures, you can draw a commercial lot that will automatically decide how much of the area to use for floor space, parking, decoration etc, but can also be fully customised.
As someone who is a PS5 player, I’ve seen some of the assets (bridges, car props, schools, hospitals, roads, etc) that are in the PDX shop so far and I’m starting to get siked for this thing to hit consoles
Same.
Can't see myself buying the game. Paradox's monetary model, a poor quality product at launch, and proprietary mod and asset deployment is enough to deter me. Once the trust is gone it's not easy to get it back.
If I do get back into CS2, it will be because of videos like this! Great work Diana❤
I've generally had a good experience with the mods, but MoveIt will crash my game about a third of the time, so I have to get in the habit of saving before I use it.
I'm looking forward to the modding potential of CS2 being utilised... it's going to look insane. Hopefully Paradox upgrade the performance and simulation overtime too.
Love your detailing examples. Its giving us inspiration!
I'm still reading about too many issues. It's become apparent that the game was released at least a year early; not the few months we originally thought. I'm glad modders are hard at work. However, the game needs the simulations fixed/balanced, graphics still not great yet and it needs LOTS more assets. My hope is that the game becomes playable by Christmas.
CO should be ashamed of themselves
It is nice to see your renewed engagement with CS2. I tried some of the mods like the line tool, but it seems to mess up my game, as in disabling the UI. But the extra terrain tools is great. I'll give that traffic mod a go.
Off topic but Cities Skylines youtubers got some of the most relaxing voices.
I haven't played the game proper yet because I've only been making a map in the editor but I can say seeing these mods (which I almost instantly went and downloaded) is definitely why I'm doing that at all.
1:41 That poor woman's wife and kids finding out that she was just inexplicably Thanos snapped out of existence
i'm gonna wait to jump back in for when official asset mod support is enabled because i know that if i started a city now and got really into detailing, i'd probably lose it all when the official asset support in enabled. Plus, with that we'll also have the region packs and i'd really love to make a Japanese city, i'm a little burned out from the only two themes in the game, but i see the game's modding is in a great state. I wish they could also optimize the simulation better, my city still struggles and slows down to a crawl sometimes.
awsome video as you do with all your videos it's really really cool that you can now finely be able to play cs2 with mods congraz 😀😍 love your work 👍🏻
I'm waiting for that Traffic mod to get timed traffic light management. That's literally all I care about
Traffic President !
Same here! Trying to keep traffic flowing is what makes the game fun for me!
So glad to hear you're happy! Can't wait to see what you do with it! Return of Lane guy?
I've been using the mods since Thunderstore era ( sounds like BC eh?) They: 1) change the mechanics of the game; 2) make the 'hidden gems' of the Developor Mode visible; 3) bring cu stom elements to the game.. all of which hooks me up more of more... But, good to see that you're back (or, coming ba ck)...
I reopened the game for the first time about 2 to 3 weeks ago and was pleasantly surprised to see 25 Fps, instead of the one digit I was getting previously. However it is completely unmodded. Watching this video gives me hope, but will wait a few months before starting. I have since found other builder type games to cover my time, until that day....
Hi Diana, Thank you for you videos. love watching them. also thank you for your honesty in all your vods. I still feel this game is NOT up to standards as they promised. it still has a lot of work. I also know the mods is now in beta but I am having SO much problems launching my game with the mods. I just lost all interest in playing this game all together. I think this game will only see me again in a year. I actually feel like asking for a refund but I think I will still give them a chance and some time to see if things does get better. I just feel paying that much money for something that wasn't promised.
Lots of super detail and ideas. Great!
Thank you for the video. Once I have finished playing Hotel Renovator, and Manor Lords, will download my preorder and give it a go.
It's back on my wishlist since their latest apology, even though i won't be able to run it until i upgrade some parts. Also gives me time to see how well they follow through and whether they try another beach assets fiasco.
Sounds like we should be paying the modders instead
It desperately needs asset mods and the promised country assets packs they trailed early this year. Then I will come look to back
But the work the modders has been doing is amazing
You've been the only real fair creator this entire time and I like this video because it gives me a tiny bit of hope the game iwll be "okay enough" soon.
I think after the big supposed economy update, where they better finally fix the tax bug that has been around for ALMOST 7 MONTHS AT THIS POINT and makes the game pointless to even play, I'll give it another try.
It's still a terrible mess by a bunch of incompetent devs but if it can get to a baseline of "make a pretty city and the pieces work and the cars drive around" I'll be satisfied ENOUGH with it...
...Maybe not to pay for the content, but to play it.
The mods and traffic tools have made it a lot better since I can detail a little more now I am beginning to play more. I think the modders are going to start turning this game into something good. However I am still disappointed with colossal order for not making most of these features in vanilla and the launch….
Glad the modders care about the game.
there's no modern city builder out there in existence, so we gotta work with what we have
@@evilpilott true.
Sure was nice to hear the optimism in your voice and vibe overall. Hopefully CS2 can complete the turn and begin a positive trend.
I didn't mention it in the video but having a map theme mod really helps too, being able to do more than just the default textures is nice.
mods loading is a pain...I've learned to use Skyve to launch the game-so the mods update in there before you launch CS2- What happens when you launch straight in is when some mods update, then you gotta quit and go back in
I have an i9 4070 RTX, 32 GB RAM, and still this game runs so slow from time to time. I don’t know how to solve this issue
Glad you are back looking at CS2
I've been having a cities skylines itch and was going to reinstall the first game this weekend, but after watching this I may give the second game a shot. But either way it's good to know some progress has been made. One question to anyone who may read this: are the zoning squares still screwing up so easily?
Yeah sadly they are .... There's some mods that help but it's a constant issue
@@CitiesByDiana I don't know why that bothers me so much, but it does.
Yes, finally someone talks about the rotation. It feels so strange. Feels like no control and also it goes the wrong way, But totally agree with you. Just the other day i was thinking: if i was to do a video about CS2 it would be titled "It's getting better!". I guess you read minds Diana. Nice video.
I won't lie, I'm mixed on seeing the game improve personally. On one hand maybe it'll get to a state eventually that I'll hop back in and give it a shot. On the other, I'm disappointed that the main people benefitting are CO and Paradox, and not the modders who are actually making their game worth playing. I still think it's missing a lot of asset variety, which to be fair CS1 really got via mods and CCPs. Either Way, I'll stick to CS1 for now. Maybe when we hit the 1 year mark, I'll install CS2 again and see how much progress has been made.
Well, I tried subscribing to your list of mods and got as far as "road Markings" and CS2 crashed. Had to do a hard reboot to recover. Have tried picking up at that point twice and CS failed once and crashed my system once. Aurora 10 running Windows 10 with 64RAM. OK, it's not new, but it was sold as a gaming machine and I only have Steam and WPS Office on it. I was going to wait for CS2 assets to arrive but the enthusiasm you and others have had over Sully's and Triton's mods and packs made me give it a try. Back to waiting.
I'm sorry 😔 after a few hours of gameplay it's been crashing for me again .... This game is frustrating
@@CitiesByDiana It is. These new mods have really created excitement among the video creators. It shows the game's potential. But if it is that fragile, it is unplayable. It has to be fun, not work.
Nice to see you enjoying dtailing again Diana!
It’s definitely improving. Will it ever been better than CS1? Time will tell and CS1 took time to be great. As much as I miss all the cool content from Steam workshop I find CS2 running better in performance not being bogged down with an overload of assets. Traffic mod is a game changer but my traffic management still needs improvement in my layouts.
I vouch for that Diana given I dropped three shorts yesterday on three different mods that have certainly given the game a new lease of life now
I am not a City Painter (detailer) so those kinds of mods Ill usually leave alone although I was having fun placing down sand yesterday to make BEACHES for those beach front properties after all 🙂
But the next Mixed ROW Zone, and Mixed Farm Zone have certainly made Cities Skylines a lot more fun with some more low density mixed use, and some zoneable farms when you need small scale farms somewhere 🙂
Still lots to be done but these three particular mods have given a boost for Cape Solaria
I don't know why my medium and high density homes don't rise to a level, even though they are happy and have all the services and low taxes, is it a bug?
Paradox: "The mods will make the game work as it should."
CS2: "Maybe mods will work today, or maybe they'll break everything. And good luck figuring out which of the 30 mods you need is the one causing issues"
I love CS1 and I built a fancy new computer just to play CS2 (performance still sucks). And *when* it works, I enjoy playing it. But it frustrating that the game depends on mods to be good and the mods often break the game or crash it in the middle of playing it. One day I spent more time just trying to get the CS2 main screen to load than actually playing the game.
Paradox really needs to get some of the basics into the actual game - like traffic lane paths, line tool, better bulldozer, zoning, etc. Mods should be extras, not requirements. If some random person can code something to add these features, surely paradox can do it better and faster.
I agree with ALL of this. It's been such a hassle trying to get this game to work with mods. Now that I've finally done it, it's (mostly) worth playing. But it should have been this day on DAY ONE without any mods needed. The mods I have aren't anything monumental or confusing to new players. They're all just quality of life stuff and some extra detailing options and visual mods. The fact it took 9 months to get the game into a state where it even comes close to CS1 with mods is sad. We were supposed to get a sequel so we didn't need mods to do what we wanted to do. It's a shame and I don't blame people for sticking to CS1, in fact I am still keeping much of my personal city building time in the game and still doing content for it because it's just such a classic I don't think it'll ever die.
Is the queen back? ❤
I’m so excited to see the potential of this game. Due to work and a lot of traveling, I won’t be able to play CS2 from my desktop. So I have to play vicariously through all the amazing CZcams creators.
Are the parking spots added by Extra 3.0 functional?
I think the ones I put in aren't as far as I can tell, but there IS a way to make them functional with markers I just didn't do it yet
TM:PE is a game changer! The cars do even more strange things at interchanges than CS1!!
The asset mdos seem great, and yeah even as someone who mainly concentrates on the sim aspect rather minute details... these are great just finish off some of the weird assets we have in game!
Dissapointing they haven't got the loading issues with Paradox Mods sorted yet but good to see progress.... now once I get the game to load on my main windows account I might give it another try!
Thanks to content creators and modder 🎉 as always
We're lucky it didn't pull a Kerbal Space Program 2.
Terrain conforming options would be great to have also
After a few months and with the right mods including the one that sorts out land value. I like this game more than cities one now. My cities just look so good without trying. this game will get its redemption like no mans sky did.
I'm happy to see more mod/asset support. I still don't own the game as I've been waiting for the simulation/economy side to improve.
At 2:41, what the hell is that billboard supposed to be ? creepy AF. (AD Wall Large 02)
I think you can make mod collections in PDX mods. Not 100% sure I haven’t played this game in 6 months.
Honestly after buying it recently and playing for a few hours I can safely say at least it isn’t KSP 2
For once modding can fix a broken game
Also edit how do you not feel stressed or guilty when you edit the roads without pause on LOL
why is the music so epic tho xD but glad to see the modders hard work is paying off !
Idk I felt like epic music worked for this epic update 😂😎
60 euros for a game where you NEED to mess around with mods = nah
I will still give it another year before I head back to this game.. What they advertised and what came out was a complete night and day difference.. I like what i see but i will wait..
It's shocking that CO still makes modders do all the work.
I feel like I'm the only C:S (1) player who never cared to decorate...
😮 those mixed use row houses make me want to get the game! Wow!
i don't play a simulation game for detailing small details like that, for me that should popup automatic i like the managemtn aspect mostly.
I'm still a little too pissed off to give CS:2 a try, but I am looking forward to gameplay from you. Maybe I'll ease into it eventually. And, yea for Traffic Manager!
It's always been good in my view, I'd like to hope that it becomes great. I think it's heading that direction but only time will tell.
The more I see pictures people post on the FB groups the graphics are making me want the game, then I see the surface stuff in this... only thing is I just can't justify paying $60 when I got cs1 and most dlc, and only 453 hrs into the game over a span of 7 or 8 years and only now over the past 2 years have been able to pay it much better, and have not yet built a big enough city to use a lot of my dlc stuff. Sure I did it on my old crappy laptop with less mods etc.
But now I play on my 2020 high end PC, and use lots of mods and assets, and detail, I do still play according to traffic and demands but always play with everything unlocked and unlimited money.
I'll stick to cs1 with my mods that make it graphically a bit better, but still I like the looks of cs2's water and sunlight etc
getting intersection marking tool next would be great
yes! that and node controller
Can I play it through my steam deck?
the big thing missing for me is a half decent map editor. In its current state the map editor is AWFUL. It has a few very basic thing missing, for example you cant see the height values - you youre just eyeballing everything. its tedious to work with. And I like playing on my own maps so this is a deal breaker for me.
Mod support should be added as soon as possible as a small update without much delay and when they add it, it can even replace the updates they barely make
Yes, some of the mods out now are great. Hoping to see more soon
@@CitiesByDiana If they use laziness as an excuse. I can't think very positively but time will tell
Did the traffic get better after editing a crap load of roads in your city? Because that was the 2nd biggest issue for me. Traffic jams because of stupid ai (I guess that makes it an a without the i). It seems the mod really does make it better, but as a whole, did it make traffic much smoother?
My biggest issue is my city came to a crawl (stopped growing) after 250k or something like that. I used to stream this game every Sunday, there came a time I would leave my pc running while I was afk to progress (my poor pc screaming :(). But theres only so much you can do. I hope there is a mod eventually that can fix that. Not sure how long the devs are gonna take to fix that.
Oh also, near the end of the video your music has lyrics in it, and it was a bit loud, so your voice + lyrics/singing was a bit distracting to concentrate. :)
Yes! It helped a LOT just removing stupid uturns
i will give CS2 again when i get bored of playing manor lords witch wont be for a while but nice video
The work modders are doing is amazing, but the game will only be good when there is an official asset editor
Got my potato here, so you are one person whom I will enjoy the game vicariously from!
The only mod that I want that is still missing is the network multitool. After we have it I'm going to buy the game xD
But now there is another "gamebreaking" (for me) bug. High Densitiy residential buildings get abandoned after time. Everyone. I think it has to do with land value since the new patch...
Sticking out my Gyatt for the Cities Skylines Rizzler!!
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Traffic mod is nice, but as far as I know, the simulation is so broken, that it doesn’t really matter
Not it's not good. Maybe the detail is finally a possible thing. But simulation is totally broken. I've started two new cities, and when you hit Level 6, demand goes full in each zone and doesn't go down whatever you do. You can only zone residential and you still have lots of demand despite you don't put any service or other zones. Sames happen with money. I started one of the cities with 6% taxes, and I making tons of money. Also no need to put any service (electricity, waste, cemetery...) and I am having 30k habitants. Also, traffic problems? Just a couple of traffic jams on the only entrance for a 30K city. There is no simulation, behind the game.
Yeah as a simulation game it honestly sucks right now. For making nice looking stuff it's getting better but performance is still spotty for me personally.
And honestly playing it more the performance on my end is still almost deal breaking. It's better than it used to be but I kinda jumped the gun one this video because after another 10 or so hours of play I've crashed so much and got nothing done.
And yeah the traffic simulation in this game feels meaningless. Worse than CS1 not sure why but yeah
@@CitiesByDiana In terms of performance, for 1080p players it's ok If you have the right PC. I am just behind recommended specs: i5 12400 RX6750XT and 32 GB and until 60K people (didn't go further) I have 40-50 fps stable in high settings in a y situation (even with rain - snow)
Glad to see the game is finally making progress! Too bad moders had to fix it... As a filthy casual, I will probably wait another year for it to really git gud.
It’s crazy(not really that crazy) just how much life custom assets and decals completely change the game for me.
Slowly getting hiped up again for this game, but will let it cook for maybe another six months just to get the better experience
Oh absolutely I think if things keep going in the right direction it'll be good by then! There's still a lot of quirks and stuff it needs to iron out but it's slowly getting there.
love seeing this. Not gonna lie - when you're encouraged, I am too.
"Cities Skylines 2 is getting better!" Well fuck, it can't possible get any worse...
I still get/struggle with the "small homes" debuff. Quite possibly one of the most annoying thing about the whole game. I still play skylines 2 but I honestly don't reccomend it to anybody. Needs about another year worth of work and content to be worth it
hmm wait 2 more years then. maybe by that time a cpu can handle this.
I purpose-built a Ryzen 7600 / 4070 Super just for Cities Skylines II. I'm waiting for your seal of approval before I purchase...
I don’t see myself reinstalling the game anytime soon. It still feels like the modders are polishing a turd. If the base game ever gets good on its own, only then would I consider mods
Do anyone has that problem when you need to unsub and sub to mods every time? otherwise game does not load them?
It's getting there and now i pay it a bit more.. but the game will crash to desktop way to often ar the moment .
2:17 When you want to dry your laundry on the balcony but your neighbor fires up the grill on his.
Still a big L that the mods aren't available in the steam workshop. Of course I'm open to trying Paradox mods but I've only used the steam workshop so PDX mods just looks kinda daunting.
At least something's being done, so there's still hope... 😏