Grading every F1 team's 2023 season so far

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  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
  • Who are the successes and failures of 2023? Well, to separate the star performers from the ‘must do betters’, The Race has graded all 10 Formula 1 teams based on their performance in the first half of the season.
    Our grading system is simple and inspired by school report cards. Each team will be awarded a letter grade from A to E, which reflects their overall level.
    Within that, there are three sub-divisions - for example C plus, C or C minus, with the plus and minus (or absence thereof) reflecting the team’s overall execution in terms of making the most of the machinery and producing even development across the half-season so far.
    And remember, we are grading teams for performance measured by expectations. That means a team expected to be at the back that’s overachieving will get a better grade than a potential title-challenger that’s not producing the goods.
    00:00 Report card time
    00:48 Alfa Romeo
    01:34 Alpine
    02:33 AlphaTauri
    03:20 Haas
    04:06 Ferrari
    05:04 Mercedes
    06:00 McLaren
    06:57 Williams
    07:51 Aston Martin
    08:53 Red Bull
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  • @AugmentedGravity
    @AugmentedGravity Před 9 měsíci +430

    You can’t give RB anything less than an A+. Absolutely insane level

    • @NoName-cn3cp
      @NoName-cn3cp Před 9 měsíci +34

      A++

    • @AugmentedGravity
      @AugmentedGravity Před 9 měsíci +14

      @@NoName-cn3cp A+++

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 9 měsíci +4

      ​@@AugmentedGravityNijigasaki High School Idol Club and Red Bull Racing both are the only 2 teams that got A+.

    • @acegarcia3719
      @acegarcia3719 Před 9 měsíci +10

      I mean if they aren't an A+ I don't know what is.

    • @kelvinauhk1
      @kelvinauhk1 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Should be S grade

  • @guitarsimon1
    @guitarsimon1 Před 9 měsíci +218

    Seeing Mclaren and Williams consistently fighting at the front again after so long would be so gratifying.

    • @1barnet1
      @1barnet1 Před 9 měsíci +16

      Williams fighting at the front again?
      Are you watching really old replays or the 2023 season?

    • @ericheick7044
      @ericheick7044 Před 9 měsíci +44

      ​@@1barnet1the post said "would be".

    • @standdbyme
      @standdbyme Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@1barnet1 giving you shoulder pats! Better luck next time pal :D

    • @aloelover6012
      @aloelover6012 Před 9 měsíci +5

      ​@@1barnet1Bro can't read 💀

    • @tundaslug07
      @tundaslug07 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@1barnet1English is your fourth language?

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 Před 9 měsíci +55

    It is mad how well Williams are doing, I had no hope for them with how they were slowest last year and then shedding so much leadership

  • @georgeoliver8300
    @georgeoliver8300 Před 9 měsíci +486

    it would be good if f1 had some kind of point system to rank the f1 teams based on performance...

  • @septopus3516
    @septopus3516 Před 9 měsíci +22

    If I'm second in the championship, and after completely changing car philosophy and design in the thick of the season, and yet still second place in the championship, and my driver's in the top 3 and top 6, then calling me average is a compliment. Because just imagine when I'm slightly above average, or when I'm back in full form...!

  • @crazycjk
    @crazycjk Před 9 měsíci +104

    GCSEs: Alfa Romeo, Alpha Tauri, Williams, Haas
    A-levels: Alpine
    Degree: Aston Martin, McLaren, Ferrari, Mercedes
    PhD: RedBull

    • @lekudos
      @lekudos Před 9 měsíci +1

      No Masters?

    • @TyagiAviral
      @TyagiAviral Před 9 měsíci +26

      @@lekudos Difference between RedBull and others is so much that giving anyone masters doesn't seem right

    • @HendrawanRochandi
      @HendrawanRochandi Před 9 měsíci

      What's phd?

    • @TyagiAviral
      @TyagiAviral Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@HendrawanRochandi PhD: Doctor of Philosophy
      It's basically highest, academic degree which a student can get.
      High School -> Bachelor's -> Masters -> PhD

    • @jaidenk.d3416
      @jaidenk.d3416 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Now this is thinking out the box 😂

  • @florian_geier
    @florian_geier Před 9 měsíci +61

    How can you rate alpha tauri better than alpine and alfa lmao😂😂😂

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 9 měsíci +16

      That's were expectations come in.

    • @dfletcherboyy12
      @dfletcherboyy12 Před 9 měsíci +9

      ​@@soundscape26Is there no expectation for the team with the best relationship and access to RBR to at least be a reliable points scorer?

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 9 měsíci

      @@dfletcherboyy12 According to Ed no. I would put them behind Alpine though.

    • @MinisterManDan
      @MinisterManDan Před 9 měsíci

      I think they screwed the pooch putting anything below alpine. If the whole damn brain trust gets fired, you probably should have automatically last place

    • @gelmir7322
      @gelmir7322 Před 9 měsíci +6

      AT drivers are relatively unproven (Yuki and DeVries)
      Alfa have Bottas
      Alpine have drivers that were both GP winners.
      Considering how AT performed last year,
      yeah there ain't really much expectation from them.
      But considering how they can still score points (which showcase Yuki's improvement) in a pretty overcrowded top ten,
      then yeah they are somewhat overachieving relative to the expectations from them and their drivers.

  • @rosco3
    @rosco3 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Giving ferrari that grade is insane. They invest as much as RB/Mercedez and they got their second fastest car, yet they managed to underperform in all areas during a weekend that they're not even competing for second

  • @remilacroix122
    @remilacroix122 Před 9 měsíci +11

    This is the moment where nothing happens but you still have to make a video. I appreciate the consistency

  • @MichaelLaing71
    @MichaelLaing71 Před 9 měsíci +88

    I would say that McLaren's C+ is a little hard. Particularly when you are giving Aston Martin an A-. Yes, McLaren did have an underwhelming start but I would say that the general performance level over the last few races, has seen them rise to near the top of the grid for the last few races, whilst Aston Martin whist being great at the beginning of the season (particularly in the hands of Alonso), but the later races have seen a fall off. So the comparison between Aston Martin and McLaren, with over a marks difference is very harsh. Personally I would suggest a B+ or B for Aston Martin, as they have not been consistently at the top, and a B- for McLaren due to the huge improvements with the new concept.

    • @sheldoniusRex
      @sheldoniusRex Před 9 měsíci +17

      AMR advertises with The Race.

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 Před 9 měsíci +40

      McLaren was a backmarker for every race apart the last 3-4... C+ is generous.

    • @NicotineRosberg
      @NicotineRosberg Před 9 měsíci +9

      Not reading that mini book. McLaren has underperformed on a whole, except for like the last 3/4 races

    • @seashackf1
      @seashackf1 Před 9 měsíci +9

      I think you’re discounting both teams early season form, especially against expectations. Just how good AM did and how bad McLaren were early on. Remember all the talk that Lando needs to leave them if he wants to win races or a title. AM completely outperformed expectations and even their drop off of late isn’t anywhere as bad as McLaren at the beginning of the season. Only reason AM got the minus is because of the drop off.

    • @johann9389
      @johann9389 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Based on the premise of the video that is grading based on expectations, McLaren and Aston Martin seem to be correctly graded

  • @danked6731
    @danked6731 Před 9 měsíci +17

    Can we just also talk about James Vowles and the amazing job he's doing at Williams to drag them out of the ground

    • @sunnys7645
      @sunnys7645 Před 9 měsíci

      The best part is he's actually fighting for the team. He's not just saying "yeah we're at a disadvantage and we'll live with it". Instead he's very vocal in FIA meetings and making it clear that the cost cap has handicapped smaller teams who lack infrastructure. He's making an impact both internally and externally

  • @Gunar-ux5zy
    @Gunar-ux5zy Před 9 měsíci +4

    I really would Love to See more „history“ style Videos from „therace“ on CZcams… watching those was what got me into the Sport a lot.

  • @ACasualRacer
    @ACasualRacer Před 9 měsíci +1

    Red Bull - A+
    Aston Martin - A-
    Williams - B
    McLaren - C+
    Mercedes - C
    Ferrari - C-
    HAAS - C-
    Alpha Tauri - D
    Alpine - D-
    Alfa Romeo - E

  • @1barnet1
    @1barnet1 Před 9 měsíci +31

    I'd give the ranking an F.
    Mclaren somehow turned their season around. And they now have a proper car to fight with till the end.
    Aston Martin somehow went backwards with an new concept that worked out of the box.
    How is Alpha Tauri better then Alpine when they have the worst car using many redbull parts.

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 9 měsíci +9

      Because Alpine is a team that expected to be in 4th, and is being beaten silly by other midfield teams. Their season has been a total disaster. If anything, D- was being WAY too generous.

    • @1barnet1
      @1barnet1 Před 9 měsíci

      They're 6th performance of the car is eratic.
      They do make everything themselves. And they should be better. They do have a culture problem of an CEO that is booting everyone with more talent then himself.
      Looking at that the results ain't as bad as they could've been.
      @@rars0n

    • @KiyoPapi
      @KiyoPapi Před 9 měsíci

      did you not watch any part of their explaination for grades you dimwit?

    • @redline589
      @redline589 Před 9 měsíci +4

      It is based on expectations, Alpine formerly Lotus are expected to be a front running team top 3-4 and are not performing, and Alpha Tauri are a backmarker team who don't often score at all.

    • @The666opal111
      @The666opal111 Před 9 měsíci

      That somehow Mclaren declaring in the pre season testing, that they altered they develeopment quite late, so the real car will be delayed.

  • @vickolous
    @vickolous Před 5 měsíci

    something else to bring up about alfa romeo is their operational issues. several times this season red flags have been caused by the alfa in either practice or qualifying since the car came to an extended stop on track, and then just drove off. it happened consecutively at canada and then in austria where an alfa romeo came to a stop on track, the red flag had to be called, then the car just drove off like nothing happened

  • @vincelongman3264
    @vincelongman3264 Před 9 měsíci

    Alfa Romeo D, Alpine D+, AlphaTauri E, Haas D, Ferrari D, Mercedes C-, McLaren B, Williams C+, Aston Martin A-, Red Bull A+

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider Před 9 měsíci +5

    this is one of the most beautiful f1 video thumbnails i have ever seen. they look like power rangers!

  • @Lukeywoodsey
    @Lukeywoodsey Před 9 měsíci +9

    The fact that GCSE's these days don't use this grade system anymore in the UK so you feel you have to explain it make me feel old

    • @anonymousperson26223
      @anonymousperson26223 Před 9 měsíci +1

      a levels do though

    • @pardiimre
      @pardiimre Před 9 měsíci

      It''s explained for viewers who live in a country where this grading system is not used.

    • @valkenburgert
      @valkenburgert Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@pardiimreEasier for everyone to switch to a system that’s easy for all to understand.
      The system of percentages is a system that’s all setup for an easy conversion. 1 to a 100. Where 1 is low and bad and 100 is much and good. Makes sense doesn’t it?!
      What’s perfectly average? 5. Everyone knows. With those weird letters many have to think about.
      Having a suboptimal system in schools is no reason to copy that to CZcams.
      Why choose a system you need to explain?!

  • @tuxedomask7892
    @tuxedomask7892 Před 9 měsíci

    Was the white tape looking stuff on the alpha tauri tyres part of a test or debris? Never seen that before.

  • @AgentUltimate7
    @AgentUltimate7 Před 8 měsíci

    If RBR is close to perfection, this guy expectations of perfection are far beyond human capabilities.

  • @alcoyne3333333333333
    @alcoyne3333333333333 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Great honest analysis 👏

  • @Wildcat12
    @Wildcat12 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I feel like AlphaTauri should've gotten a higher grade just from Tsunoda alone. He isn't topping the field by any means but they have arguably the worst car of everyone and he's managing to stay midfield. Obviously his driving alone isn't enough to bolster the entire team but I feel it at least deserves mentioning.

  • @EnjoyTheSilenc3
    @EnjoyTheSilenc3 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Merc getting a C when they usually have the 4th sometimes 5th fastest car and are 2nd in the standings is a bit low to me.

  • @mcb0b1
    @mcb0b1 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I think you were a bit harsh on some of the lower teams. If a team is expected to finish say 8th, and they are 8th, that is pretty average. If a team like Ferrari is supposed to be fighting for a championship, but instead find themselves in 4th, that is an E all the way.

  • @Angry_Squirrel555
    @Angry_Squirrel555 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’d have given Aston a “B” but I generally agree with this. Good job!

    • @sayabingung
      @sayabingung Před 9 měsíci +4

      this ranking is powered by aramco

  • @tudor3232
    @tudor3232 Před 9 měsíci +1

    It is clear to me that this video was approved first by Lawrence Stroll!!!.
    How can you give Aston Martin A-,but you can't give Williams and Mclaren a B or B- ?!

  • @celticsuave
    @celticsuave Před 9 měsíci +1

    You guys nailed the ratings, well done!

  • @saiyerugara9038
    @saiyerugara9038 Před 9 měsíci

    Red Bull A
    Mercedes B-
    Aston Martin A-
    Ferrari C
    McLaren C
    Alpine C-
    Williams B
    Haas D+
    Alfa Romeo D+
    AlphaTauri D-

  • @BONSANISSIMO
    @BONSANISSIMO Před 9 měsíci +5

    Very unstable ranking

  • @marianne1555
    @marianne1555 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Ranking the ranking I'd say C😂😂😂😂

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 Před 9 měsíci +2

    This season being dull is not just that Redbull have done really well, it’s others not doing well

  • @trackman07
    @trackman07 Před 9 měsíci

    How can a team that’s second in the championship receive a ‘C’ and be called average? Not arguing for an ‘A’ because they’ve dropped the ball on initial design but literally every other aspect has been spot on. It’s wild to think that Aston receives an ‘A’ given they’ve gone with a green RB, just like the pink Mercedes. They don’t know how to develop because they just copied without the understanding actually creating the concept on their own. If they come back and develop towards the end of the season, I retract my comment but I doubt they will.

  • @cptgone
    @cptgone Před 9 měsíci +1

    A truly "simple" grading system would be a number from 1 to 10.
    Instead, you have a less intuitive system, that is composite (the + or - indicating an abstruse and subjective side aspect of your evaluation), and impacted by expectations (silly, and subjective in nature).
    But hey, at least you didn't opt for the Imperial system.

  • @foyorama
    @foyorama Před 9 měsíci +1

    Aston Martin would have significantly more points if Alonso had a different team mate.

  • @QuimFreecss
    @QuimFreecss Před 9 měsíci +1

    My inner gamer screams: "Why isn't Red Bull and S!?"
    Hahaha, they have been klling it.

  • @JThomasP51
    @JThomasP51 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This would be a very competitive season if not for Redbull

  • @cy9nvs
    @cy9nvs Před 9 měsíci +6

    Though it has paid off for Haas, it still pisses me off, that they would ditch a rookie after only two seasons, one of which was with an absolutely useless car.
    Haas itself is such a terrible team but has sky-high expectations of a rookie at the same time. That really killed all sympathy I've had for the team previously. I'd much rather see Andretti be given a chance, than having Haas on the grid, who buy the absolute maximum allowed when it comes to parts, and apparently do the bare minimum when it comes to anything else.

    • @kondor99999
      @kondor99999 Před 9 měsíci

      Agreed. They are, by far, the worst team. I wish they’d just leave. They specialize in ruining careers and little else.

    • @scottrobinson4611
      @scottrobinson4611 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I think it was really the bill for crashes/damage that was the impetus for getting rid of Mick.
      Mick crashed too much, and Haas was (is?) in a precarious financial position. They needed a driver that they knew wouldn't crash randomly, and they got that with Hulkenberg.

  • @Drrolfski
    @Drrolfski Před 9 měsíci +2

    Red Bull is basically an A++ at this point, literally never seen before in F1 history

    • @Love2Cruise
      @Love2Cruise Před 9 měsíci

      Short memory? Merc from 2014 to 2017 was basically untouchable.

    • @Drrolfski
      @Drrolfski Před 9 měsíci

      @@Love2Cruise Even Mercedes never won 13 races in a row or 12 in a row within a season. That alone is simply a never-seen-before performance level done by an F1 team.

  • @valkenburgert
    @valkenburgert Před 8 měsíci

    Why do all the complicated letters for grading? Simply go from 0-10 with one decimal. Far more choices and far easier to understand for everyone.

  • @shiny9219
    @shiny9219 Před 9 měsíci

    Alfa Romeo with E is a little bit harsh 😬

  • @Javadamutt
    @Javadamutt Před 9 měsíci

    Nothing on Lance Stroll costing Aston Martin with his well below what should be expected from that car performances?

  • @Formula-Drive
    @Formula-Drive Před 9 měsíci

    Feel like i'm back at school! 😂

  • @digitalgulby
    @digitalgulby Před 9 měsíci +1

    Clearly these ratings aren’t given on data.

  • @davestrider2045
    @davestrider2045 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I’m really unsure how Mercedes and AlphaTauri were both given the same grade. I get that Mercedes isn’t doing great but AlphaTauri is doing terrible. I’m not sure how AlphaTauri is considered to be meeting but not exceeding expectations at last in the constructors title.

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR Před 9 měsíci

      Because Alpha Tauri weren't expected to do much at all.

    • @wybren
      @wybren Před 8 měsíci

      Merc: C
      Alpha: D
      They did not receive the same.

  • @kenchen704
    @kenchen704 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Mclaren started slow but is now consistently better than AMR yet given only a C+? Does B grade not exist to you?

    • @philipbarton3456
      @philipbarton3456 Před 9 měsíci

      That’s what struck me. Mercedes improved this year and is doing overall better then other teams while not having a consistently 2nd best car and yet has made a solid gap to the other teams, and even captured a pole. But is given a flat C. B- sure that would be reasonable but it was graded just barely steps above worse teams in the grid. It feels like they aren’t fairly rating and are aggressive and written to be scandalous for attention sake.

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Ferrari and AlphaTauri both should've graded F.

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR Před 9 měsíci

      I mean Alpha Tauri wasn't really expected to do much so F seems excessive. Likewise if Ferrari went from their championship contending form in 2022 to far lower in the field (Around Alpha Tauri's position) this season, then I would absolutely agree with an F as that would just be failing off the face of the earth at that point.

  • @atharvakate5165
    @atharvakate5165 Před 6 měsíci

    I want someone to genuinely answer my one question
    How can you expect mercs to do better when in case their car is neither a full proof concept and they are still doing better compared to other front runner
    I hope they are not entirely judged based on their brazil performance

  • @BostonFenian
    @BostonFenian Před 9 měsíci

    As an Alpine fan, I'd give them a D too, but saying it's "going nowhere fast" is premature, I think. Rossi was the source of many of the team's problems, and now that he no longer has a controlling role in the team, I'm hopeful that the only way to go now is up. Could be wrong, of course...

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR Před 9 měsíci

      Sadly though as its been seen with the multiple parting of staff (Abiteboul, Prost, Budkowski, Permane and Szafnauer), Rossi appears to have been only a small part of a far bigger issue as it seems upper management has a bad case of "We want it yesterday" (Ironically, something Otmar wanted to avoid by going to Alpine and leaving Aston Martin). This attitude is made worse by the Groupe Renault chief executive Luca De Meo making this statement:
      "The Alpine Formula 1 team will become the French Ferrari"
      Last time someone said something similar, it did not end well (Hint: It was green and it was British) "Going nowhere fast" feels very appropreate as its sounds pretty much like Toyota's ill-fated F1 campaign in how it was run: By upper Management and not by the people that actually should be doing the job.

  • @josephiousbrosif
    @josephiousbrosif Před 9 měsíci +2

    Fun video concept but ordering them in order of grades is kinda lame. No intrigue

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 9 měsíci

      It's a countdown... would you prefer them to be listed at random?

    • @josephiousbrosif
      @josephiousbrosif Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@soundscape26I would've preferred championship order or alphabetical order so that I didn't automatically know the next team mentioned was gonna have a higher grade

  • @whassupg89
    @whassupg89 Před 9 měsíci

    Red bull: amazing. Everyone else: being made to look like mugs

  • @brucemckay7828
    @brucemckay7828 Před 9 měsíci

    I like both AM and Williams but can't agree with your placement, using criteria you have.
    AM has had a drop off the last 4 races and McLaren has had a rise yet McLaren has a C and AM an A. So a team that's falling is much, much better than a team on the rise. I would put McLaren B- and AM a B+.
    Williams is everyones sentimental favorite and in Alex's hands, doing well. But the team is not(points) doing better than McLaren.

  • @jakkor1106
    @jakkor1106 Před 9 měsíci

    Its crazy they won everything

  • @kondor99999
    @kondor99999 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I’ve never seen such dominance by a team and I was there for the 88 season.

  • @yammt3148
    @yammt3148 Před 9 měsíci

    Sooooo... Aston Martin... You sure about that grade??? I can think of a few reasons why they don't deserve it, starting with a certain owner's son.

  • @willynelson8750
    @willynelson8750 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Fact, Lewis is outperforming a very bad car. And for the Lewis haters, I think Max is doing the same. They are in a class of their own and Lewis needs a car to match Max to give us fans ultimate entertainment.

  • @OscarZheng50
    @OscarZheng50 Před 9 měsíci +3

    stroll fumbling the bag for aston martin, he could've scored more points when the car was competitive and now it looks like the car's performance went backwards making it harder for points to be scored and the 2 mclaren drivers are in the mix as well. now aston losing ground to ferrari and Mercedes and will even come in threat by mclaren in the constructors championship, they had a good start to the season but it doesn't look like they can't maintain that pace while teams like mclaren are consistently improving their car

  • @Tristan_de_Kermadec
    @Tristan_de_Kermadec Před 9 měsíci

    I know it is the summer break and nothing really happens in F1, but this video deserves a E- in my opinion. As far as I am concerned, there is only one marker of a team performance, it is called the FIA F1 constructors championship. Please spare us this kind of BS in the future.

  • @dfg12382
    @dfg12382 Před 9 měsíci

    I'd have Ferrari way lower for where they should be and Mercedes a bit higher for where they came from.

  • @vegadanial7240
    @vegadanial7240 Před 9 měsíci

    0:44 oof

  • @ultramariogod
    @ultramariogod Před 9 měsíci

    Worst to best for me
    10 AlphaTauri
    9 Alfa Romeo
    8 Haas
    7 Williams
    6 Alpine
    5 Ferrari
    4 McLaren
    3 Mercedes
    2 Aston Martin
    1 Red Bull
    Ranking 4-2 was tricky since Aston Martin started great but recently fell while McLaren went from bad to good and Mercedes has been catching up but now must compete with McLaren

  • @patrickabas1112
    @patrickabas1112 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Regarding Alpine, just look at the way they organise the country! That should explain all you need to know how the team is organised. Management and top down support is missing. I am sure the team will do better if they get the propper support from the top, instead of these weasels blaming everyone but themselves.

  • @xperience-evolution
    @xperience-evolution Před 9 měsíci +2

    Sorry but the Alphabet does not have enough letters to rate Ferrari.

  • @AZBCDE
    @AZBCDE Před 9 měsíci

    RB should of got an A star

  • @chieflion9526
    @chieflion9526 Před 9 měsíci

    Haas blaming tyre degradation on their Ferrari engine 🤣 🤦

  • @BlagoP
    @BlagoP Před 9 měsíci +1

    Alpha Tauri deserves nothing but an F. When your parent company easily wins the championship and you can use their engine, transmission and suspension, and you're in last place, you're a failure.

  • @luke7842
    @luke7842 Před 9 měsíci

    I still think Red Bull has big weakness. Perez is capable of winning races in a good enough car, but I don't think they've made the car easy enough to drive to suit both drivers. Otherwise they would be getting a lot more 1-2s

    • @alicekoppenol-pitti6257
      @alicekoppenol-pitti6257 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Car and team are a constant, the driver is a variable. Therefore the driver needs to adapt. An easy car clearly is a slow car ergo the driver needs to adapt. No team will make their car slow to make it drivable. Hence Red Bull's search for a driver who can adapt to their car, in this case Max and probably Daniel

    • @defenda1
      @defenda1 Před 9 měsíci

      Perez has reached the podium 7 times this year... do you think he did this despite the car? 😒

    • @alicekoppenol-pitti6257
      @alicekoppenol-pitti6257 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@defenda1 Checo is an excellent driver who, as you remarked, is fully capable of putting it on the podium. Unfortunately he lets the championship narrative get to his head. The only one Check needs to impress is the man in the mirror. Until he believes that, he is going to make unnecessary mistakes.
      In that regard Max has a point, do not try to copy but try to excel above your own capabilities.

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 9 měsíci

      I think the real problem is that Perez just isn't that good, and the more the car favors Max, the less it favors him. That's bad for Perez, because half the drivers on the grid could probably step into that car and provide better, more consistent results.

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 9 měsíci

      @@defenda1 In 2019, when Mercedes had a less-dominant car than Red Bull has right now, Bottas finished on the podium 10 times*, with 7 of those being either first or second place. So yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. He did that poorly despite the car being so good.
      *Edit: I'm talking about the first 13 races, of course. To drive the point home even further, Bottas scored 14 more points than Perez has, and Perez has extra points due to the addition of Sprint races.

  • @cdeppracing216
    @cdeppracing216 Před 9 měsíci

    Lost me when you used E for a grade

  • @elusiveruse832
    @elusiveruse832 Před 9 měsíci

    You should reevaluate how you calculate the average performance of cars, Ferrari doesn't have such a big gap to AMR and Mercedes, it's a laughable suggestion. I assume you are going by one lap performance taken from qualifying which is a questionable metric. Average performance should be based on race pace.

  • @Arash14
    @Arash14 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Redbull would be A++++++++++…… not just A+ 😅

  • @user-cy1qe3wm2z
    @user-cy1qe3wm2z Před 9 měsíci

    RedBull S
    AM A
    McLaren A
    Merc B
    Williams B
    Ferrari C
    Haas C
    Alpine D
    Alfa D
    Alpha E

  • @HendrawanRochandi
    @HendrawanRochandi Před 9 měsíci +6

    9:45 not A+ but S🔥🔥🔥

  • @BlueIced256
    @BlueIced256 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Why using the American grading system, instead of a proper system that the rest of the world uses?

    • @sheldoniusRex
      @sheldoniusRex Před 9 měsíci +3

      Just like with everything else, the "American" system is actually originally English.

    • @defenda1
      @defenda1 Před 9 měsíci

      Also, this system would be well understood in England, where the majority of F1 technical development is taking place. So the engineers will be able to understand The Race's criticisms and act on them more effectively.

    • @rhodrage
      @rhodrage Před 9 měsíci

      Rest of the world? A lot of countries use different systems.
      In fact England and Wales now use a 1-9 grade system. I preferred A-U

  • @EngMadison
    @EngMadison Před 9 měsíci

    HAAS...come on, come out with some improvement to address the race pace/tire wear. I wouldn't be surprised if they fall to the bottom of the pack by the end of the year. Where are the mid season improvements?!

  • @JuanDiego-vx7bx
    @JuanDiego-vx7bx Před 9 měsíci

    If you factor in budget, then Ferrari should be F-

  • @bighammer3464
    @bighammer3464 Před 9 měsíci

    Red Bull is not an A+ team. Half the team is not pulling their weight. B+

  • @deedas
    @deedas Před 9 měsíci

    Aston Martin can't get anything more than an F because they insist on having only one driver in their team.

  • @mikeplaced3111
    @mikeplaced3111 Před 9 měsíci

    Nothing knew here, knew ranking without thinking about it. Wasted 10 mins, fast fwd x2 if care

  • @Lonelyplanet3
    @Lonelyplanet3 Před 9 měsíci

    Renault and Ferrari are competing for the bottom

  • @awadheshsharanchaurasia7248
    @awadheshsharanchaurasia7248 Před 9 měsíci

    Tbh Mercedes and Ferrari have disappointed enough to make any rational rating be below c- , even if they are faster than many teams but still they have vast resources, I think they should be rated at D , I mean Ferrari has good cornering speed the last year and had more cfd time for this year and it even had the engine benefit which were rewarded due to their poor reliability (even though they have real political issues in their team but still it's very disappointing) while mercedes looks like a mid feild car , i mean sure the car is very Dead but they do have a very experienced and vast team with a 7 time world champion and they themselves have arguably the biggest workforce and manufacturing capability and the major factor is Aston Martin had used their wind tunnel arguably better than Mercedes, I think mercedes culture of spending millions had disabled them to make the right and economically rational decisions on time, their last season was also poor and I think they should be D- , I mean they are one of best teams with big capital but they underperformed last year too with one race win at the end of the season on a very favourable track , I think their last season should also be accounted and I think you should have accounted that Mercedes and Ferrari has arguably the best driver lineups especially ferrari and the amount both the drivers in each team pushes is quite high (higher than many of the other drivers ) I mean they have good drivers (this might appear biased and is subjective to you because whenever a driver finishes in an unexpected position - it is either they pushed hard or it is the car and their team strategic decisions)
    You should have considered not giving teams ratings such as B , B - , B + ,A or A- I mean it would really depict the reality or the relative rating that none of the teams are able to touch red bull

    • @MrMhmToasty
      @MrMhmToasty Před 9 měsíci

      "Mercedes looks like a midfield car" meanwhile they're in second in the constructors and have consistently finished in the top 6 overall. P1 channel did a video on what the scores would be if RBR wasn't here this season and Merc would be in a comfortable lead over Aston, which would be ahead of Ferrari. Claiming that Ferrari and Mercedes have had equivalent seasons, when Ferrari looked like a title contender about a year ago, is pretty ridiculous.

  • @timaz1066
    @timaz1066 Před 9 měsíci

    Why, no F in the rankings?

  • @sik59rt
    @sik59rt Před 9 měsíci

    i guess "E" doesnt mean excellent? why not use F?

  • @spatialguy5571
    @spatialguy5571 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What a MASSIVE SHAME you showed them in order of grade! Took all suspense out of your report. Next time alphabetically perhaps… 😩 M🇦🇺

  • @xperience-evolution
    @xperience-evolution Před 9 měsíci

    Alpha Romeo E
    Alpha Tauri E
    Ferrari E
    Haas D
    Alpine D
    McLaren C
    Aston Martin C
    Mercedes C
    Red Bull B
    William A

  • @Alex.The.Lionnnnn
    @Alex.The.Lionnnnn Před 9 měsíci +5

    So you have to discount McLaren as you're conscious of recency bias, but you ignore your primacy bias associated with Aston Martin.
    Right. Got it.

  • @STC987
    @STC987 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Like every season, one team gets an A, the rest get an F.

  • @hakki368
    @hakki368 Před 9 měsíci

    Interesting how these grades are given when none of these so-called "teachers" giving out the grades ever know how to run an F1 team, let alone know all the intricate things a team does to get them to where they are on the grid. Click bait.

    • @MinisterManDan
      @MinisterManDan Před 9 měsíci +4

      The Race has a former technical director on staff, silly goose.

    • @hakki368
      @hakki368 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MinisterManDan I know they consult Gary Anderson. He was a technical director many many years ago. There are more moving parts today. Plus, giving a ranking as if they could do a better job is just hilarious.

    • @MinisterManDan
      @MinisterManDan Před 9 měsíci

      @@hakki368 I think you could do a better job that Alpine.

    • @hakki368
      @hakki368 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MinisterManDan No I won't. That's just changing the topic. I just don't like how pundits give out performance grades as if their word is definitive and based on full knowledge of all the inner workings at each team. Sure, everyone has an opinion. And their grades are just that, an opinion. But pundits and channels do this predictably often for click bait, discussions, etc so as to earn money. Have you ever heard any former team boss give grades like these? No. Because they know how hard it is to run an F1 team.

    • @MinisterManDan
      @MinisterManDan Před 9 měsíci

      @@hakki368 but often time the only people who can accurately describe and see the flaws or positives with anything are the outsiders who can see the whole forest. I think if you took your position to it’s logical conclusion, nobody would ever discuss anything. There’s a lot of guys at The Race have been covering the sport for a long time, they’ve seen teams rise and fall and everything in between. To say that the staff there who cover this sport so closely don’t get to have an opinion on performance if they didn’t turn a wrench is reductive.

  • @JMRope
    @JMRope Před 9 měsíci

    You have over complicated the grades. It is quite simple, Red Bull has been perfect and gets the gold star. Everyone else has failed. Even Aston Martin and Williams, they may have improved but this is F1, no team is meant to be there just to make up the numbers. Well, possible exception being AT, they are not allowed to win regularly.

  • @milandavid6405
    @milandavid6405 Před 9 měsíci +1

    mercedes ☠☠☠☠☠☠☠ True though

  • @stevejhkhfda
    @stevejhkhfda Před 9 měsíci +3

    I would say because of Perez - RB gets just an A
    Also I think the race team performance should mean a C+ for Merc

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 9 měsíci

      They are judging the car's performance above all... otherwise Logan would bring Williams' grade down.

    • @saiyerugara9038
      @saiyerugara9038 Před 9 měsíci

      I would go B- for Mercedes tbh.

  • @dud8905
    @dud8905 Před 9 měsíci

    W The Race dropped another banger

  • @VincentFischer
    @VincentFischer Před 9 měsíci

    If the Red Bull is so good, why is Perez so bad? Should be atleast 2nd every race

  • @fardinarnob5057
    @fardinarnob5057 Před 9 měsíci

    at should be last

  • @akshayjain9358
    @akshayjain9358 Před 9 měsíci

    Looks like it was sponsored by red bull

  • @siddharthtrivedi2006
    @siddharthtrivedi2006 Před 9 měsíci

    It is criminal to give McLaren a higher grade than Mercedes

  • @soundscape26
    @soundscape26 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Too harsh on Alpine, too nice to Williams.

    • @michaelgideon8944
      @michaelgideon8944 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Too harsh on Merc and McLaren as well. Merc is in 2nd, do they really deserve a C? McLaren realized their mistakes in testing and came up with a plan to fix it. The plan has now succeeded. Isn't this better than Williams that just has a bad car that is rescued by Albon's heroics?

    • @MinisterManDan
      @MinisterManDan Před 9 měsíci

      Honestly I’d put alpine as having the worst season, so they were nicer than me. Total disaster of a season, and everyone’s been fired from the brain trust. Can’t imagine how you could have a worse season

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 9 měsíci

      @@michaelgideon8944 The Williams is not that awful, otherwise Albon wouldn't be getting those results, but the rating is a bit too high.

    • @MinisterManDan
      @MinisterManDan Před 9 měsíci

      @@michaelgideon8944I don’t agree. McLaren now has a car that makes you go “wow this is clearly second on the grid “ and spent the first chunk of the season struggling to get to points, that’s not acceptable. There’s not a good reason to have that much of a gap between potential and what you started the season with.
      Mercedes going from the series dominant car for a decade to “scraping into second because everyone else sucks so bad” is not impressive. They’ve got major problems.
      Williams is making such a leap forward and showing proof of concept for this brain trust. Williams has gone from most hopeless team in the sport to looking like an attractive investment opportunity for the first time in ages. If they can keep building on this, who knows? Maybe in a couple of years they can get a works deal with an engine supplier looking to get in.

    • @michaelgideon8944
      @michaelgideon8944 Před 9 měsíci

      @@MinisterManDan The Williams is a one dimensional car that only works on high speed tracks where everyone else kills their downforce. Good on management for maximizing that but still not worth the grade. I think people undersell Albon since he was spat out of the RB driver meat grinder.

  • @bigredhawkeye5167
    @bigredhawkeye5167 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Alpine d- but McLaren and merc C+/C ok

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex Před 9 měsíci +3

    We use 0 to 100 in Colombia, or 0 to 5 with 2 decimals at university. Never heard of using letters B- sounds like music, E, D+.

    • @leoarc1061
      @leoarc1061 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Isn't music in Columbia done the latin way? Do Do# Re Mib, etc

    • @GarfieldRex
      @GarfieldRex Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@leoarc1061 yes, but many music sheets are in the English way, specially when you want to look for something online

    • @defenda1
      @defenda1 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thanks, actually found this comment more interesting than the video itself.

    • @rars0n
      @rars0n Před 9 měsíci

      @@leoarc1061 Those syllables (do, re, mi, etc) are only used for singing scales. Nobody writes out music like that.

    • @leoarc1061
      @leoarc1061 Před 9 měsíci

      @@rars0n What you are you talking about?! I played in orchestras, and everyone except drums, triangle, etc uses Do Re Mi Fa Sol La Si.
      In fact, before a bar, you can have Fa#, Sib, etc If such notes are frequent enough thereafter.

  • @CRquinn7
    @CRquinn7 Před 9 měsíci

    wtf is E?

  • @paunixon
    @paunixon Před 9 měsíci +1

    You can't base grades on previous levels: grades must be based on current achievement. Ferrari should be higher, as should Merc and McL. Expectations have no place; achievement is the benchmark.

  • @Dragonpuncher123
    @Dragonpuncher123 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Too nice to McLaren. They were not 6-7 best in the beginning of the season, they were 9th.
    Yes they are better now, but in the vast majority of races so far they have been disappointing. That should be taken more into account instead of just looking at the 3 newest races.

    • @Lastname6955
      @Lastname6955 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Going from 9th fastest (still 6th in the constructors) to 2nd fastest is mightily impressive though. They are one of the most efficient race teams. If anything they're underrated

    • @MichaelLaing71
      @MichaelLaing71 Před 9 měsíci

      I completely disagree. The fact that McLaren went into the season with a poor car, and have turned the situation around, where they have been consistently on the top of the podium, towards would suggest that a C+ is actually undermarking the McLaren. Particularly when compared to Aston Martin who started off very well but has seen a bit of a fall off as the season has gone off. This is more than a whole mark difference. Now I am not suggesting that McLaren should be higher than Aston Martin (I wonder how much is Alonso over performing) but I think they should be a little closer in terms of marking.

    • @gelmir7322
      @gelmir7322 Před 9 měsíci

      They came in the season with known issues (related to the emergency TD to combat porpoising which left them blindsided during the car development)
      and thus lower expectations.
      Unlike Ferrari and Mercedes which were kinda hyped out of the box,
      and Alpine being considered as the best among the midfielders,
      McLaren is expected to be a disaster.
      So the fact that they turned that expectation around even beating Mercedes and Ferrari (which were hyped) showed they are doing something right

    • @Dragonpuncher123
      @Dragonpuncher123 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Lastname6955 1. McLaren being 9th to begin with is embarrassment. It's not something that should be applauded because they got better later.
      And they are not 2nd, they might be able to reach that on certain tracks in perfect conditions for them, but overall they'll probably end as 4th fastest after the break.
      And I'm not saying they shouldn't get a better grade once the season is over. They probably should, but just looking at the first half it was dire in the majority of races.