Ranking every 2023 F1 driver from worst to best
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- The 2023 F1 table tells one story, but points are far from the best way to rank the drivers.
Every year, The F1 team at The Race sticks its collective head above the parapet to risk angering, or perhaps even delighting, the dedicated fans of every single driver to create its own ranking.
This is based solely on their 2023 performances, relative to the machinery. It’s not a ranking of the overall ability of the drivers to say who is best and worst - but evaluating how they did over the 22 grand prix weekends.
So this factors in everything from qualifying speed and racecraft to number of mistakes and consistency - and every other metric in between.
And it reflects not the opinion of one individual, but The Race’s whole F1 team.
00:00 Intro
00:46 Number 22
01:14 Number 21
01:52 Number 20
02:23 Number 19
03:03 Number 18
03:43 Number 17
04:22 Number 16
04:55 Number 15
05:27 Number 14
06:04 Number 13
06:44 Number 12
07:28 Number 11
07:58 Number 10
08:36 Number 9
09:16 Number 8
09:57 Number 7
10:28 Number 6
11:07 Number 5
12:02 Number 4
12:44 Number 3
13:23 Number 2
14:08 Number 1
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You had the chance to make Yuki 11th and you blew it
Also, I would put him 11th between the Ocon and Gasly, entirely because he showed the leadership that a driver should have after years at the same team in a way Ocon hasn't. But on pace, performance, and errors, I think those three are very close, with Gasly the best.
Haha yes "Mr 11" or "Sir Almost A Point"
guy's on Jarno Opmeer strats, let him cook
You mean the midget who needs to give up his seat to Lawson?
I will never forget Alonsos 23 season. He was amazing
amazing first half of the season, inconsistent in the second half (quite a few unforced errors).
@daarom3472 car sucked in second half. He managed to drag many decent results out of it when it wasnt working.
@@robertcarr4172 car didnt suck, but agree wasnt as good as first half. Still in 4 maybe 5 races he was very much off the pace of made unforced errors.
@@daarom3472No you’re wrong! Even in the second half when the car was a Traktor, he still managed to (eventually) out score both Ferraris, both McLaren, and a Mercedes at the end of the season! He achieved the highest number of non-RB podiums this season with the car that on average was the 4th-5th fastest car from the Spanish GP onwards (Canada excluded!)! Both Zandvoort and Brazil podiums actually happened when the car was 4th fastest!
And he has achieved the “FIA Action Of The Year 2023” (Also for his performance in the second half of the season!)
And he has achieved the highest percentage of Salary/Points (Rewards excluded) between the top three highest paid drivers ( Max, Lewis and Fernando)!
@@Arash14 Fernando was the 2nd best driver this season only behind Max who had the best season a driver has ever had.
I'm not detracting from his achievements, but his first half was better, period.
Belgium sprint unforced crash
Singapore crossing pit entry line
Qatar going off
Mexcio spin in Q1
Las Vegas incident in the first corner
Probably unpopular opinion here but Albon deserved a little higher in my opinion, the guy single handedly got 7th in the WCC (and will probably have to do the same again next year 👀) and very tangiblly had a huge part in turning around the worst modern F1 team.
Agreed.. probably the most underrated driver in F1
He did really well considering his team and teammate's performance. I think he can break into the top 10 next year (in the actual WDC)
I'd say it's hard to rank him higher without a proper benchmark. Who knows what someone like Norris or Leclerc could accomplish in that car? He did fantastic and merited a good place, but I think he landed about as highly as he could reasonably earn
@@stevepiccinnin1157 Underrated? Albon was one of the most praised drivers throughout the whole season.
@@MiskyWiskyyep. Controversial opinion as well: someone like Alonso would have gotten 2 times the points Albon had this year in that Williams
alpine being "concerned" about alonso's age based on last year must be the stupidest thing i've ever heard. if they seriously only took consideration of his points tally (forgetting about his numerous mechanical retirements) then it's no wonder that the team is such a shitstorm internally.
They really forgot that this same guy they are "concerned" about is the same one that took their rubbish car to a podium it had no right having AND is the same guy that took a godawful Ferrari years ago also to a podium. Did his ability to take a top 10 in the dreadful Mclaren Honda mean absolutely nothing to them?
Lance over Ricciardo and Guanyu is a hell of a take
Zhou's season was blistering mediocre, almost outright bad
honestly hes here just like lance, chinese pay driver. just like lance hes a midfield driver @@medjin546
@@medjin546 So was Lance's, but he was in a better car and has previously shown that he CAN be fast. But he just didn't this year and was beaten into paste by Alonso, who to be fair is a tough comparator.
@@bobbymoto1675I’d say he’s not as good as Ricciardo but better than Zhou
It's justified, Lance had a great season in the first and last stint of the Season even with a injury in the first season without pretesting.
Even if his result were bad compared to his teammates, he does still putout some good points unlike zhou and Riccardo.
Leclerc's rank is 3??? Did I watch a different 2023 season in another parallel universe???💀💀💀
Tbh it was a bad and very unlucky season for him where he had to drive a car he despiaed for 15 races and in the 7 races where he had a car he liked he was the most consistent and was driving on a similar level as verstappen,Overall season i would put him 4th cuz of his mistakes and definitely put him above norris,norris just got podiums in an extremely dominant 2nd or 3rd best car compared to the rest
Nah I would put him 5th behind Norris, Hamilton, Alonso and verstappen
I love Leclerc but the recency bias of his post-Suzuka performances have massively weighted this.
I mean it is 1/3 of the season
They took into account that in the first race he could have been comfortably P3 behind the Red Bulls if not for the car failure, which also wrecked his next race. He had 3 DNFs, 1 DNS plus the DSQ in Austin and still finished P4. Yes, he made some driver errors, but they were few, overall I would have put him behind Norris though, even though Lando made some mistakes on his own as well.
I would say his good form started at Spa... after that only in Zandvoort did he have an off weekend. The Austin DSQ and the Brazil DNS were not his fault. Either way I think the Lewis/Lando/Charles ranking was extremely close and almost interchangeable.
@@LordViktorHun88He's easily top 5, without doubt, but I feel like top 3 is very complimentary for a season where he was the slower Ferrari for a big chunk of it.
Lewis Hamilton at 5th deserves jail time lmfao
Well Lewis has dropped off quite a bit, but to put him in jail for it is a bit harsh.
How has he dropped off? He literally got p3 in a car that was barely ever second fastest @@reinier123
The race love Norris. They literally made excuses for him bottling god knows how many quali sessions at this point
@@Ash-1803barely even? Nah...ferrari was literally 0.001sec faster than Merc over the season. If it wasnt for the many mechanical failures Leclerc had...
Correct, it is way too high for Sir Hasbeenton
Charles getting 3rd is OUTRAGEOUS...
Leclerc fan here,
For pure pace he probably is, but this season he deserves maximum fifth. Recency bias at its finest
tf u on about, 5 poles n good races with a shit car
@@Bewuga123agreed 5th behind verstappen alonso Norris Hamilton
Despite a car that didn't allow him to use his preferred setup (pointy car with a big amount of oversteer) for 2/3rds of the season he still managed to put 0,220% on his teammate in qualifying who himself is a top 7 driver on the grid.
If not for some of the most atrocious luck in the year (4 non driver error related DNFs, all but one from podium positions, 2 grid penalties that cost 2 podiums and an untimely SC that cost him a win in Vegas) he'd have gotten 2nd in the WDC.
Luck corrected he also beat his teammate 14-3 in Ferrari's teammate race H2H.
He also made less errors than the likes of Hamilton and Alonso.
He himself had an avoidable racing incident in Australia and 2 Q3 crashes in Miami and Zandvoort.
Hamilton clumsily ran into another car in Miami qualifying, had contact in Spa sprint, crashed into another car in Italy and crashed into his teammate at Qatar.
Alonso missed his grid box in SA, kind of cost himself the win in Monaco with a bad tyre call, but its a bit harsh as it's judgement having to be called in seconds, crashed out of the Spa sprint, spun in Singapore, went into the gravel in Qatar and spun out at the start in Las Vegas and took out a number of drivers.
As a Leclerc fan myself i have him at 4th but Leclerc/Norris is extremely tight
Lance stroll should have been #1. He's easily the best driver on the grid.
😂😂😂😂
Yes! Finally someone in my camp
Lance the new Goatifi
Finally someone who gets it. 😂
Wtf 😂
Yuki had a better year then Russell and Ocon.
In maybe Mexico and Brazil
I'd say there's quite a bit of recency bias there... up til COTA he had 3 points.
@@soundscape26 In possibly the worst car on the grid for most of the season. I'm looking forward to seeing where he stacks up against Daniel next year. He SHOULD be soundly second best, but it could be interesting if he keeps beating Daniel next year.
@@greatscot04 Yuki is reasonably fast but is not a good enough "racer". He won't be dropped because of the Honda backing, but IMO if he can't beat Danny Ric next year he should be. The problem is that because the cars are so bulky experience is more important than anything, meaning drivers like Yuki, KMag, and Hulk get seats that should go to rookies.
@@soundscape26 Yuki was consistency P10-11 in 2nd or 3rd slowest car until his brakes died in Monaco. His only poor weekends were Austria and Mexico, every other weekend he was either the best AT driver or about even with his teammate.
I'd drop Russell to P12, he was too far behind Hamilton on Sundays, plus made far more mistakes (Montreal, Zandvoort, Singapore). I'd leave Yuki in P11 behind Ocon and Gasly. But I can understand if people were to rate Yuki ahead of Ocon/Gasly. Ocon/Gasly are difficult to rate as Gasly was better on Saturdays but Ocon was better on Sundays
Can't believe Stroll ranked higher than Ricciardo, considering all his races he attended excluding Las Vegas Mexico and Austin were all compromised by bad luck, like someone rear-ended him in Hungary, a lose tire decided to hit him at Brazil and one of the tear-off decided to stick on his break duct in Abu Dhabi
Yeah but at this point, Ricciardo chronical bad luck has to be accounted for...He is extremely unlucky, and that affects his results massively...Ricciardo has to solve his bad juju issues, we can't just ignore anymore that he is a statistical outlier when it comes to horrible luck, and that doesn't seem to be changing
maybe just recency bias
In Austin he also had a brake issue that was confirmed post race.
@@bogdan12275 so now just makes this rank more ridiculous
Stroll was actually impressive at the start of the year with his injury. as much as i like daniel no race i was impressed by him
This was surprisingly a very well thought out ranking. Top job.
Nothing surprising about it, this channel is by far the best for F1 news on YT.
@@StreetCompno, that would be RPM
@@mintgoldheart6126 that’s not news, it’s entertainment 🙂 Love rpm but The Race is a straightforward news channel
@@mintgoldheart6126 that’s not news, it’s entertainment 🙂 Love rpm but The Race is a straightforward news channel
@@mintgoldheart6126definitely RPM.
i'm so impressive that Piastri proves his speed along with his expectations.
rookies or young drivers apparently struggled against elder teammate, nevertheless he could catch up with super Lando.
I was ready to criticise Liam Lawson's ranking at the start of the video. Happy to see him pretty high up for how many races he got to have. Can't wait for him to show what he's got with a full time drive from the start of a season.
It is hard for me to rate the performances of Bottas and Hulk this year. If they had different teammates who could be stronger/weaker, we could have had an interesting benchmark to compare against. All the other teams had one really strong team mate whom to compare against (Except Ferrari and Alpine as they had the luxury of similarly paced drivers for this season)...
I liked the original title "Ranking every 2023 F1 driver from .... to Max Verstappen" better 😅
The Honda engine was finally a real one like the Honda bikes: *Bulletproof*
I’m honestly amazed that Sargent is keeping his drive Lawson deserves that seat way more
There's $20m reasons why Logan Sargant kept his drive for Williams.
one was part of the williams academy, the other is part of the red bull junior academy. it’s a shame that liam doesn’t have a seat for next year, but moving to williams wouldn’t have been the smartest move for him
As somebody mentioned, it has to do more with driver programs than anything else. Lawson is in the Red Bull pipeline, while Mercedes supplies Williams with their engines and have a good amount of pull with them as a result. Lawson is a better driver but he’s basically contractually prohibited
@@Sum_Ting_Wongcaptain!
Sargeant is the only one who was outqualified by his teammate in every single race! Albon is good and all but its ridiculous Sargeant kept his seat
Yuki should be top 10.
Russell should be 12 - 15.
LEC should be 5th and Sainz 6th.
Norris and Ham should be swapped.
lando over hamilton is a little harsh. They both had equally good seasons but Lando still kept making far to many errors.
Your channel is such a breath of fresh air, keep doing what you're doing.
I like your ranking. Its spot on.
Solid List!
best rating of the current f1 2023 driver campaign in the yt game. good job! personal -> 100% agree
This ranking is pretty solid. I can't take F1's seriously when they put Alonso fourth. He's easily the second best and I understand if someone put him 3rd, but no lower than that.
problem there is that he doesn't have a teammate of status to compare his results to, so while i think he deserves second anyone who puts him lower (but not lower then 6) i can defo still understand
@@chipiegg1466 You can say the same about Max and no one is putting him anywhere but P1. I don't think it matters if your teammate is doing badly as long as you always beat them.
@@Alcatraz760point is that you cant argue that mac isnt #1 on any metric. Guy got first, demolished the whole grid, and dominated perez for most of the season. No one would come close even with luck.
Max and Lewis are on another level, then its the rest, maybe alonso or leclerc are 3rd
you can't honestly compare perez with stroll here right? perez might not be at the top, but he defo deserves to be in f1. Also, Max has quite literally had a flawless year which also can't be said about alonso. The sheer consistency of max this season was kinda insane@@Alcatraz760
The caption was the thing that got me trppin😂
Really curious to get to the end and see who got #1
Can you make a list for the car performance and development upgrades for the season
happy to see albon in p6 but also feel like he should be 4th behind max alonso norrris
Agree with most rankings on this list, but I think you were somewhat generous with Perez. A harsher critic would place him much lower; then again, he did finish P2 in the championship and scored two wins.
P2 by what margin? With the car he had, he shouldn't have been under any threat from Fernando ( FA was only 19 points behind after canada) or Lewis ( 26 point behind Checo in Austin ). He finished with 70-80 points less than required for a respectable P2. He must be thanking AMR23's fall and W14's draggy setup
Checo 13th is wild 💀
He is junk
Charles fan here, but I wouldn't rank him 3rd over the season this year. In fact it has probably been one of his less brilliant seasons along with 2021. His best being 2020 with the tractor. I'd rank him somewhere in the top 5 or 6, slightly ahead of Sainz. The good things is he still maanged to impress with his fantastic poles against a dominant Red Bull and usually gave a decent display of himself. He's never fallen of form like Ricciardo or Perez to name a few. So I trust he will be back to his brilliant best.
Also have to make a case for the drivers in the bottom 4 teams, as it was much harder for them to score points for them this year with a more competitive grid.
The way I saw it was something like. 1.VER 2.ALO/NOR 4. HAM. 5 LEC but I agree with most of the list.
12:30 you forgot to include Piastris sprint pole in Qatar both lando and oscar had a sprint pole each
Charles before Carlos and Hamilton is crazy
Come on why would he behind Carlos? Yes that win was spectacular, but overall Charles beat him in almost every metric with far more retirements.
Hamilton and Lando - I could agree.
Not necessarily. He retired from Bahrain while running for a podium position at the time, and didn't start in Brazil (probably another podium) was DSQ from the US GP through plank wear. In Australia he was in the gravel thanks to Stroll. These are a lot of points he missed out on, and he wasn't at fault in any of those.
Charles had a better season than Carlos on pretty much all metrics bar that Singapore win.
@@utkurhalilov2430Agreed but that Australia DNF was definitely Charles' fault
@@MiskyWisky Yes, now that I'm remembering Charles was a bit too optimistic dive-bombing like that 😭
Leclerc too high, Norris definitely much better, other than that a good ranking
still now win and bitches
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Charles and Max in a RB19 would have been epic
Agreed! But you'd have to drag Leclerc out of Ferrari kicking and screaming lol
I saw you change the title of this video 😏
I would normally disagree with some of the driver rankings in this sort of comparison but in this case I can't. Well thought out and insightful. Refreshing.
tbh after seein all the singular abysmal ratings after every race, I'm kinda surprised that this one kinda fits?
Ver Alo Ham Nor Lec Sai Pia Alx Rus Per Tsu and so on. Putting leclerc and Lando higher than Lewis shows recency bias
I agree 100% with your top five.
I'm kinda early, cue the "last time I was this early" joke or something, maybe something about checo being "in the fight" for the title or whatever I guess.
I feel like i'm not the only one who needed this:
00:00 Intro
00:46 Number 22 - Nyck de Vries
01:14 Number 21 - Logan Sargeant
01:52 Number 20 - Zhou Guanyu
02:23 Number 19 - Kevin Magnussen
03:03 Number 18 - Daniel Ricciardo
03:43 Number 17 - Lance Stroll
04:22 Number 16 - Valtteri Bottas
04:55 Number 15 - Liam Lawson
05:27 Number 14 - Nico Hülkenberg
06:04 Number 13 - Sergio Pérez
06:44 Number 12 - Yuki Tsunoda
07:28 Number 11 - Esteban Ocon
07:58 Number 10 - Pierre Gasly
08:36 Number 9 - George Russell
09:16 Number 8 - Oscar Piastri
09:57 Number 7 - Carlos Sainz Jr.
10:28 Number 6 - Alexander Albon
11:07 Number 5 - Lewis Hamilton
12:02 Number 4 - Lando Norris
12:44 Number 3 - Charles Leclerc
13:23 Number 2 - Fernando Alonso
14:08 Number 1 - Max Verstappen
Interesting list, I don’t totally agree but everyone has their list.
Piastris best result labeled 2nd yet he won a sprint race and you even mention that during the video? I get it’s not the Grand Prix but it’s still a race it’s in the name. And you get points it’s not like it’s qualy and there’s no points on offer
Hamilton at 5th while getting 3rd behind the 2 Red Bulls in the wdc in the 4th fastest car on average is criminal. He drove the shit outta that tractor
But also punting piastri and Russell whilst complaining non stop about his team, lando and alonso deserved higher, both driving for teams that shouldn't be doing as good as Mercedes, there was nothing criminal about Hamiltons spot
@@padoosh28 what him tell his team that he wants a better car has to do with his standing here. beside his two mistake he was consistent. with a car less better than Fernando he got a pole not Fernando. Land was only better the 2nd half of the season where his rookie teammate got a sprint on him and made several mistake while he got the chance to be on pole. at the end with a less better car than Land and Fernando he got P3 at the end.
4th fastest? 😂. It was 3rd, being 0.001sec slower than the ferraris. What you talking about.
@@leonardohenriqueii2426 at the beginning of the season the merc was slower than the rb, Ferrari, and Aston Martin (sometimes) then towards the end of the season it was still the same other than Aston Martin was replaced by McLaren
@@kingjosh1213 Yes, and? To claim that a car was slower or faster you have to measure the WHOLE season. Merc was more consistent, that is why they were better, and faster, than both AM and Mcalaren OVERALL.
LOL @ that video title... Fair though.
I think Gasly should be higher than Russel and maybe even Piastri. Gasly had as many podiums as Russel in a much worse car. George had speed but it was a bit of a mess. Piastri is a rookie and a brilliant one but I still think Gasly over him. Anyway solid list.
And sitting in a car built around his rival, ocon haha
George has 2 podiums, Pierre has 1
@@dewiarita543 Well I cut corners a bit and counted the Spa sprint 3rd place as a podium. Just wanted to make a point.
I think Ocon out performed Gasly
I reckon you could have 3rd, 4th and 5th in any order, though personally I would have put Lando 5th, he was superb but so were Charles and Lewis. it would have been nice to see the average driver rating across the board.
8:59 george’s pace was definitely a step below lewis in the race. in quali sure, lewis has been just ok in quali this year. he was inconsistent. but saying he has matched lewis on pace isn’t true
George doesn't know how to manage long run pace over longer laps. Probably matches or outpaces Lewis at times when they are on fresh tyres but then pushes too hard and also lacks consistency
@adamdavis4928 Hamilton probably was going for more race biased set ups so it's silly to point to his qualifying from when he was dominating Russell on Sunday.
Most of this video is pure bs
1- Max
2- Alonso
3- Lewis
4- Norris
5- Charles
6- Sainz
7- Albon
8- Gasly
9- Piastri
10- Russell
11- Tsunoda
12- Perez
13- Hulkenberg
14- Ocon
15- Ricciardo
16- Stroll
17- Bottas
18- Magnussen
19- Zhou
20- Sargeant
21- De vries
(I dont count Lawson because he only participated in 3 races but he should be behind Perez maybe)
Recency bias apparent for Leclerc and Hamilton. Switching them in ranking would be fair
The same recency bias they didn't apply to Alonso so it's a bit uneven.
Agreed
LH was ranked higher than I would have put him. For being “amazing” he should have done more with the car.
@@ianaquila1858 yet he finished best of the rest behind red bull in a car that was usually about the third fastest package of the weekend even with the 2nd place DQ in Austin.
@@ellishopper360 he was summarily outscored by LeClerc in the last 6-7 races and barely hung on to 3rd.
Tsunoda below russell and ocon🤣🤣🤣 yuki is easily top 10
Albon didnt crash out in AUS James Vowels said at the time something failed on the car
Thank you for this great video! This is what the hillariusly bad Aramco Power Rankings for 2023 should have looked like
Norris and leclerc ahead of Hamilton lol, put Norris 5th leclerc 4th ham 3rd
Leclerc over hamilton easily. Despite his unlucky season managed to finish P5
Would have put Hulk ahead of Perez.
The ranking is pretty solid but i think Hulkenberg should be ranked higher. Giving this qualifying results with this car was awesome and shows that Beat Zehnder is right with his opinion, that Nico is the best qualifier he ever worked with
When reviewing Sainz these guys say Leclerc was marginally faster. When reviewing Leclerc, he’s suddenly ‘comfortably the stronger driver’.
Leclerc in 3rd? Did we watch the same season? He had the 2nd fastest car and finished 5th in the standings. His season was riddled with errors and was extremely inconsistent. If we are not basing off of past results and assumptions of talent, then he should be 6th at best.
I wouldn't say his season was inconsistent compared to the Ferrari's performance as its performance relative to the others varied a lot weekend to weekend, and the standings also depend on each driver's team and Charles had issues with that quite often (Reliability DNF from podium in Bahrain, 10 place grid penalty in Saudi, team comm. error costing him 3rd on the grid and a likely podium in Monaco, slow stop in Hungary, Singapore sacrifice and cooling issues, DSQ Austin, DNS Brazil, and maybe something else that I missed)
Btw if he's "6th at best" I'm curious who the 5th driver in the top 5 is, Max Fernando Lewis Lando are a given but who else is there
@@ultimate_miner64my guess is that he will tell you it's albon , i don't agree with that , but a lot of people seems to think that
Ferrari weren't always the 2nd fastest team this season there were few races that they were 2nd fastest team like in (ausrtia , monza , vegas ) and all other races they were either 3rd or 4th fastest team except for singapore
Sainz was 3rd not 2nd in Monza
Hamilton should be 4th and Leclerc 5th, very closely matched. However, how the hell is George 9th with the trainwreck of a season he had? Finishing 8th with the 2nd fastest car overall warrants George to be at least top 10 worst. Also, how can you put Perez and Stroll ahead of the likes Ricciardo and Zhou???
Mercedes had the 4th best car in 2023
@@Hamilton8timeChampion Your account name immediately invalidates your argument
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 How
@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 How does my account name invalidate my argument
I watched F1 for Max, Alonso and Norris this year. Really good race craft from the three.
Not sure about Perez being that high tbh. If RB had 2 Perez-s as their drivers, for most of the season it wouldn’t even be obvious who had the best car
if red bull had two perez they would tweek the car more to his liking, and most likely, still win almost everything
@@santiagooehlervery wrong ! Perez drives well at the beginning of the season but when the car gets improved, faster and better thru the season than Perez can't keep up.
cause those improvements got the car away from what he likes in a car, nothing wrong with it, they won pretty much everything with Max, but if Red bull had two Perez those improvements would be tweek more to his driving style, but all this is hypothetical and we will never know what would happen@@Av3ntur0zky
alone is the max verstappen of this year
Without watching top 3 have to be Alonso Hamilton verstappen
Edit: putting charles and lando above lewis is criminal lmao
Despite everything I'd give Perez a couple more places because being honest, surviving being Verstapen's teammate is not an easy feat
And half the blunders weren't even his fault, still doing good recovery drives after those
So, I'm just checking to see if I understand this right. Lewis Hamilton was the fifth-best driver in what was probably the fourth-fastest car all season (behind Red Bull, Ferrari, and initially Aston Martin, but later McLaren). And yet he pulled out 3rd in the WDC by a comfortable margin. Make it make sense.
I listened to the reasoning on The Race F1 Podcast and how they arrived at these rankings. They talked about trying to avoid recency bias, but I cannot help but think that Hamilton's last six race results, results attained after his WDC fate was mostly locked in, weighed heavily in marking him down. He's comfortably second on this list if he would have finished all of those races in the top 5, which he only did the one time in Mexico City.
Didnt even read all that, just wanna correct you. Ferrari and Merc were tied as the second fastest car overall.
@@leonardohenriqueii2426 technically, The Race’s averages over the course of a full F1 season has the Mercedes as the third fastest car behind both Red Bull and Ferrari on a single lap.
Practically speaking, I would put dollars to donuts up that if you average the Aston Martin’s pace before Austria with the McLaren after Austria, that average would be faster than the Mercedes as well. So this is the basic of my claim that Mercedes was nominally fourth on the road over the course of the season.
And to be sure, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. So it’s fair to be critical about such statements. But let’s not shade the truth. Let’s also be fair that there were several times (e.g., Barcelona) when the Merc was clearly the best non-Red Bull. And there were others (e.g., São Paulo) where they had the 6th fastest car.
@@ericbryant8196You cant measure it using half a season of a team and half of the other 💀. Aston Martin and Mclaren ALL season, were both way slower than Mercedes. If you were to do things that way, then you have to add Alonso points in the first half, and Norris in the second half. That is just not how things work mate. And Merc was literallly 0.01sec slower than ferarri. Having way less DNF's...for me, the 2nd best car.
My overarching point is that it feels to me like Hamilton pays a “7-time World Driver’s Champion” tax when compared to these other drivers in ratings like this. The W14 was a handful, and more often than not he got the maximum out of it.
@@leonardohenriqueii2426 You’ve thrown an extra dimension in that I did not: reliability. I said “fastest”, not “best”. If we’re going to use the term best, I would rely on the Constructor’s standings. And by that measure, I would agree that Mercedes had the second best car and team over the season. But I did say the “fastest.” That does means something specific.
However you look at it there's always a little personal preference involved.
Well we’ll,… surely a few feathers will have been ruffled!
I don't think it's really possible to rank drivers broadly because track performance is so tightly coupled to the car.
I respect Alonso and everything he’s achieved in 2023, but Leclerc deserves 2nd spot. without his horrendous bad luck he easily gets P2 in the championship in a car that was everything but comfortable for him for 85% of the season, 3 DNFS, 1 DNS, 1 DSQ, 4 grid penalties, 1 pit lane start, countless strategy blunders & mechanical issues.
you deffo have a leclerc fanboy take. This season leclerc was worse than other seasons.
13:54 So did Sainz and Verstappen, who also coincidentally went on the inside at the start of the race
There was oil in turn 1 at Vegas start that's why Alonso spun.
Really well put together.
ric and zhou behind strool is borderline criminal
Some minor disagreements, but I do agree with you.
Lol hamilton 5th is crazyy
Why?
First time ever I agree with The RACE's ranking.
Is it because the driver you like came first?
no@@utuberme1
@@utuberme1offcourse. If they had kept Lewis in the top three , Some fans would have lost their neurons.
Sainz should have higher.
Sergent, de vries, perez and stroll are bottom 4. No debate
Perez is the hardest one to rank.
Some will claim that he did what he asked of him, which is finishing 2nd, so he should be at the top of the list.
Some will argue that on pure pace he was along the likes of Hulkenberg and Stroll.
Some will say that he failed spectacularly at his opportunity - failing to reach Q3 8 times, including 5 in a row, is not worthy of anything but Sargeant’s company.
Don't you mean Magnussen and Stroll?
Hulkenberg war relatively fast this year.
Him finishing 2nd was nothing short of a hollow achievement, he scored 20 less points than last year.
Lawson ranking is wiiilllddd
As much as I like Checo, I think he was ranked too high here, I reckon he was sligtly above Stroll in performance. That car was way too capable for him to fumble so many races.
And as much I love Ferrari and Charles, he wasn't better than Lando or Lewis this year, or Alex, for that matter. Very close, but not better.
u should swap Hamilton with Leclerc Hamilton had a p3 just behind the Redbull and was giving Pérez a hard time while Leclerc beat his teammate by 6 points
Leclerc had a very unlucky season with a lot of mechanical failures and yet finished ahead Sainz, who had a good season...
@@leonardohenriqueii2426 to be fair sainz also had unlucky this season like vegas penalty and qatar dns and australia penalty could be argued that it was bit harsh
Yuki so low is crazy
The hate of Lewis is crazy how Lando and Lecarc are above him when he came close to defeating Checo.
The Race favors him quite often, I expected he will be 2nd, but was quite surprised they actually were realistic. Alonso, Lando and Leclerc were all performing above their car expectations. Also, your point that he came close to beating Checo is funny, since Checo was ranked 13th. Someone quicker in second RB wouldn't have trouble securing P2.
Because the highs of Alonso,Norris and leclerc were higher than Lewis (Charles got 5 poles while Alonso and Norris had more podiums than Lewis) and their lows were because of the car especially lando and Alonso . But you still can rank them otherwise they were so close
I totally agree with you. In my book it should be 1) Verstapen 2) Alonso 3) Hamilton
Norris was far more consistent - Hamilton had 4/5 races where he was miles off the pace of Russell
@@SiegfriedDerDrachentoterPiastri is a rookie lol?
I already saw this ep of P1
In my opinion, this list is good but needs a couple changes:
- Stroll drops below Ricciardo and Zhou. He had a way better car for most of the season and should’ve helped Aston to 2nd
- Piastri goes above Sainz. Yes Sainz had the only non-RedBull win, but he too often made mistakes and went missing in races. Piastri was a rookie in a way worse car at the start of the year and had atrocious luck throughout but dealt with it amazingly
- Norris goes above Leclerc and Alonso. Norris beat Leclerc to 2nd in last year’s ranking despite having a better 2023 and Leclerc dropping back slightly. As for Alonso, his season was spectacular; it’s just that Norris fared better when their respective cars were worse.
I could easily switch Hamilton and Leclerc here
Lewis number 5......PLEASE. Third in the championship and your number 5.
Did you see where the number 2 in the championship was??
Charles Leclerc higher than Lando and Lewis is wiiiiiild.
only OGs know what the original title was 😂😅
my list:
1. verstappen
2. lewis
3. norris
4. alonso
5. leclerc
6. piastri
7. russell
8. sainz
9. albon
10. gasly
im to lazy to list the rest
of course you didn't list the rest cause you only want to show everybody that Hamilton should be the 2, but that's not the case. Too inconsistent this year.
@@ElGuatequero he was consistent enough to be 3rd in wdc in this very unstable car. He had to make corrections pretty much every turn because the car is very inconsistent. Yeah I'm a hamilton fan but I tried to be as objective as possible.
@@garajimdakiejder2945Merc was way more stable than any of the other except redbull. What you mean
Not even gonna make us guess about who is first
The observation that Tsunoda had an edge over Ricciardo on pace even though it “didn’t always show on the timesheets” has to be one of the dumbest statements possible. Or is there some measure of pace that doesn’t involve time?
Why did you change the video title name? I saw Worst to Max Verstappen......
Lewis 5th.........LeClerc 3rd??? are you guys drunk? Lewis was clearly the best of the non rb drivers.
lol@Ocon above YS + Liam’s hype. Yuki was consistently faster & LL’s P9 finish that got him hyped was a P14 if not for 5 extremely unlikely DNFs. CL over LN & LH = pretty ridiculous.
nah this ranking ain’t it
If you see the results that Perez obtained in the RB19, it makes you wonder what other drivers would be able to do much better, let alone challenge Verstappen in this car.
It also puts into perspective how great max verstappen has been
Max completely smashed Perez
I’m not sure any other driver could have done better than Verstappen in the same car
One thing you can give Perez is that he finally got Red Bull their first one-two in points. I know Webber was checked out in 2013, but that was when Red Bull had the greatest advantage when Seb won the title. Webber had nothing for Alonso and the Mercs in 2013. So, even with that gulf in car performance. GG Checo, you managed to do what Mark Webber couldn’t.
Watch back Perez in his Force India / Racing Point days. He's not a bad driver, he was one of the best on the grid. Look at Albon and Gasly now, they're impressing everyone and were easily the two best midfield drivers this year. And Verstappen bodied them all. Yeah a driver like Lando, Leclerc, Lewis or Alonso could challenge Max, but anyone else is just gonna look washed.
And why would those drivers join redbull and probably lose to Max in that car when they've got a top team that is fully behind them pushing to the front of the grid. Let's face it, Max is never going to be seriously challenged by a teammate.
people overhype Lando so much, in my opinion.@@billhoult3262