Why closed port cylinders are high performance

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  • @carllangley1764
    @carllangley1764 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Great job on the explanation of information!! I really like the SUPERB sound effects , it really lets the kid out to play and that to me is the important part!!

  • @theironhorse6600
    @theironhorse6600 Před 2 lety +16

    Only trying to help but you have the primary and secondary transfers mixed up on the quad loop! Erase this message after you read this if you want! I hope I’m helping! Keep up the good work!

    • @novicelumberjack
      @novicelumberjack  Před 2 lety +3

      Oh HEY! I've watched so many of your videos! Thanks for the help. I was questioning it myself. Doesn't make sense to me why the exhaust side upper would come in first. Seems counter productive to shoving the spent gasses out the exhaust. Seems like it should be the other way around.

    • @novicelumberjack
      @novicelumberjack  Před 2 lety +1

      Could you help me out with a video explaining it better? And...give my channel a shout out?

    • @Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws
      @Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws Před rokem

      @@novicelumberjack 👍🆙BigGuy

  • @homopit42
    @homopit42 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for the explanation. With a small correction - on quad ports, primary transfer port is the one closer to exhaust port. The one closer to the intake is secondary transfer.

  • @cajun3197
    @cajun3197 Před 2 lety +5

    Been some great ported runners build from open ports

    • @novicelumberjack
      @novicelumberjack  Před 2 lety +1

      Absolutely! You can modify anything. But...you get what I'm explaining. Heck, you probably know it better than me!

    • @cajun3197
      @cajun3197 Před 2 lety +3

      @@novicelumberjack well I’d say I do. Why I have been trying to give you pointers when you’re off track

    • @novicelumberjack
      @novicelumberjack  Před 2 lety +1

      I love your pointers, and thank you, but... you think open ports are as good or better than closed ports? Not talking about HEAVY modifications. Heck, anything can be modified enough to outperform something else. The bones of a cylinder. That's what I'm talking about. I'f closed port isn't better, then why would EVERY high performance 2-stroke use closed port designs?

    • @cajun3197
      @cajun3197 Před 2 lety +2

      @@novicelumberjack i would only say that closed ports are longer lasting and have a bit more grunt because the charge is directed better. For high revs open are about the same performance

    • @cajun3197
      @cajun3197 Před 2 lety +2

      @@novicelumberjack I think you did a good explanation though

  • @jamievanatta771
    @jamievanatta771 Před 2 lety +9

    Thanks for breaking this down in a way that's understandable.

  • @marcoalvarez5682
    @marcoalvarez5682 Před 2 lety +2

    Great explanation thank you very much every day I learn something new

  • @Alan_Hans__
    @Alan_Hans__ Před rokem +1

    After seeing it explained like this I really don't know why piston sleeves aren't the done/common thing in 2 strokes. Much easier to cast and machine.

  • @blairguinea6811
    @blairguinea6811 Před rokem

    Thanks Brody, I thought I knew 2 strokes...................found your explanation fascinating

  • @yankeenimrod2063
    @yankeenimrod2063 Před 2 lety +1

    nice work, very informative video , now I want to cut a cylinder in half !!

  • @tomjones4318
    @tomjones4318 Před 2 lety +1

    That's a clear enough explanation anyone can understand.

  • @pauljcampbell2997
    @pauljcampbell2997 Před rokem

    I learned a lot. Thank you!

  • @Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws

    Well done Big Guy👍🆙

  • @Jesusiskingamen7
    @Jesusiskingamen7 Před 2 lety

    Good video man I been messin around this helped me alot

  • @balazsporteleki3741
    @balazsporteleki3741 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you, i got the difference

  • @RussellHoughton
    @RussellHoughton Před rokem

    I ordered the cheapest 353 cylender kit on Amazon last week expecting open port and it was closed port and looked better then a factory unit. But at the end of the day I just want it to work good. I don't care if it's open or closed.

  • @richardhatfield915
    @richardhatfield915 Před rokem

    Thank you

  • @jordanhenson626
    @jordanhenson626 Před měsícem

    That looks like my 372 cylinder

  • @budgillett9627
    @budgillett9627 Před 2 lety

    Great explanation!

  • @shawndavis1759
    @shawndavis1759 Před rokem +1

    thank you

  • @MsMohaman
    @MsMohaman Před rokem

    Hi. For example, the stihl ms 660 cylinder method of cutting out the bridge in the middle of the filler to make it look like e.g. At the husqvarna 55?? Thanks

  • @ozdatman
    @ozdatman Před 2 lety +1

    Now talk about open vs closed in relation to case volume.

  • @Nicky_Pin_It
    @Nicky_Pin_It Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome Vid!

    • @novicelumberjack
      @novicelumberjack  Před 2 lety

      Are you familiar with sugarloaf parkway, just north of Atlanta?

    • @Nicky_Pin_It
      @Nicky_Pin_It Před 2 lety

      @@novicelumberjack nope...my name is for Sugarloaf Maine the ski resort

  • @vascopires2045
    @vascopires2045 Před 2 lety

    Very nice

  • @julianlaustsen1991
    @julianlaustsen1991 Před rokem

    I learned that u should never port upwards or downwards because it ruins compression ratio, what are your thoughts on this?

  • @peterjohn3180
    @peterjohn3180 Před 8 měsíci

    Kind of!
    There's no reason why an open port can't be angled away from exhaust, the angle upwards is more effected I think plus.
    In high performance cylinders the angle is not as angled away from exhaust to facilitate scavenging at high rpm.
    One way open ports get the charge to flow away from exhaust port is to have the port roof arranged so that the port open on the side opposite ex. Port first.

  • @ChippyOutdoors
    @ChippyOutdoors Před 2 lety

    Good explanation

  • @davidgoliath982
    @davidgoliath982 Před 2 lety

    ms250 is a good example of a very nice running open port. dont know enuf to say much more than that

  • @antea9055
    @antea9055 Před 2 lety

    Can I use an open port cylinder on a crankcase built for closed port? Vice versa? (I have a 140s with broken cylinder and cant find a new one.)

    • @novicelumberjack
      @novicelumberjack  Před 2 lety

      Should work fine as long as that saw has the option of an open port. What saw is it?

    • @antea9055
      @antea9055 Před 2 lety +1

      I have an Husqvarna 140s, 40mm, 32mm stroke and i can not find a closed port cylinder for it. Ive found a few open port cylinders that might work like the weedwacker 443r. Will a open port cylinder/piston work on a closed port crank case?

  • @davesteier-xf5lh
    @davesteier-xf5lh Před 5 měsíci

    And there ain’t a single chainsaw enthusiast out there with a 3d printer that can replicate that damn Partner cylinder you got??
    Then, if so, you’re on to going beyond machining process and can directly focus/work on flow now. Imagine a chainsaw running from the bottom side; That’s how the flow and “flow the cases” works on these things. /pine… Back To: Tapering, Channeling, Venturies… the angles of the dumps, their positioning behind the exhaust hell idk oh and Port Timing..
    Rrrrr!!! RATS! Wasn’t it “EPA” was the reason for going to Open Ports? Closed Ports polluted”” more?? What was that? Just another marketing gimmick mask to get us to pay for it? “AWD”… “Quota” “Performance Evaluation..”
    Cuz I know for a fact! I’d pay $5 more for the saw and a “Xp” cylinder if that was the option. Because you CAN NOT just go out and put your hands on one of these cylinders, AS EASY as-if “it came with it”.
    Damn this 55 Rabbit hole!!! All this just for a damn chainsaw.

  • @DoSomething-
    @DoSomething- Před 8 měsíci

    My open port cylinders rip

  • @Topsiekku
    @Topsiekku Před 11 měsíci

    Kanavan muoto on liian törmäävä jos se on auki kokonaan

  • @noclass2gun342
    @noclass2gun342 Před rokem

    That's definitely not a 440/460 cylinder... perhaps a 441 or 461, but definitely not a 440 or 460. The lower transfers on 440/460 are in the cylinder walls not on the base