Things To Know Before Getting The SS 475 Cam For Harley 114
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2023
- In this video we’ll talk about the SS 475 cam upgrade on my 2020 Harley Davidson low rider s, more specifically the pros and cons. These are helpful tips to know before getting the SS 475 cam installed on your Harley.
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Sounds great.
I had a built harley dyna.
2010 branch cylinders Branch heads and Andrew's cams
125Tq.115Hp.
Love the look of low rider
Sounds like a fun dyna!
Dear Sir, I enjoyed your video, on my bike I used the zippers RS 468 Cam. I was not getting the full benefit of the cam until I got rid of the FP3. That was a great stage one tuner but when I came to going with a stage two it was just lacking. I finally bit the bullet and got a professional tune. I got full performance and torque out of my bike it really woke it up. I also got most of my fuel economy back. And as far as low speed maneuvering it was not even noticeable. Good luck keep up the good work.
Appreciate it John. Yeah I know the fp3 isn’t ideal. I should’ve budgeted a dyno tune into the cost of it all. It’ll happen at some point. Thanks for watching and ride safe!
I was have istall in the start 475 cam in my street glide with a program fron dyno jet and the fuel efficiency was tragic( 220 klm)but the bike was like a rocket.I keep it for a year and i change it with the 465.The best move!(380klm)fuel efficiency and a very good torque.I istall and a primary chain tensioner from PSR,and in the low rpm the bike goes great and the gears goes more smoothly.I am very happy with it.
im thinking of doing the same. i lost about 25% fuel efficiency with my 475. i like the torque at low RPM so im thinking of going 465 too. glad ai saw your comment.
……You don’t buy a Low Rider S for fuel efficiency to begin with !
475 cam is one of the best torque cams for M8 Harleys with just a stage 2
There is a channel - Moonshine Harley Davidson . They have been creating and recording a new “ Performance Bible “ for M8 Harleys, for the past several years ! 👌👍💪
You certainly don’t buy it for the fuel efficiency lol. But I did notice a big drop, which means I’ll just have to fuel up more often 🤙
I agree, the slow maneuvers did change. I get nervous sometimes when im making a 90degree right turn at a intersection
Takes some time to get adjusted for sure
Knowing how to ride with the clutch, rear brake and throttle makes it a nonissue.
Being in the friction zone is essential with a hot cam. Had one in my S&S Evo stoker.
I have the same bike with 475 cam and you need to get it Dyno tuned. It will improve your fuel efficiency and throttle response all the way through the rpm range. I also gained over 10hp and ft of torque over the Dyno jet canned map after the Dyno tune. Your leaving a lot on the table if your just using a canned map.
Agree with you, it’ll happen eventually.
I did the same, but total loss of low-end power. I used Power Vision canned tuner. Need to get more miles on it, so I can take it to a professional tuner now. Top end is great however.
These bikes definitely need a dyno tune with a cam swap. Added 29 hp and 17 ft lb on the dyno with a TTS tuner in my wife’s 107. She’s getting 38-40 mpg.
@@freebehindbars8654do you need a tuner like (power vision)installed even if you take it to a dyno tuner?
@@jaybo9044no. The tuner will have the license so they can tune the bike.
Have a '23 LRS with 2BR turnout. The 117 actually pulls very hard without a 475 in it. Been used to my Z900 and Z900 RS 4 bangers. This is definitely a different ride. One of the coolest looking bikes I've had. Someday I'll do the 475 and it will sound like my old 440 six pack Challenger at idle. Can't wait.
Agree the 117 have a little extra oomph vs the 114
Best cam have one in my 2020 Lowrider plus dyno gets along just fine 👍👍👍🇦🇺
Absolutely
sound great !!! Thanks for the info I'm thinking of doing the same job on my FLHXS. which adjustable push rods did you use
I believe it was the S&S adjustable push rods. Good luck with the install. It’s not too difficult, just go slow and watch a few videos
Bike is looking great. I have those same bags on mine, from Viking right? I don’t know if I want to do a stage 2 or go straight to a stage 3? I’m going to have mine done at a shop but just not sure which way to go? New cam will be cheaper I’m sure, but a 122ci just seems too cool. Concerned about heat though.
Thanks man! Yeah they’re from Viking bags. I agree 122ci would be really cool, you can also add a cam down the road too. Either option would be a nice payoff for sure
I have the 475 on my 114 Fatboy running a Screamin Eagle Ventilator Extreme intake and a Vance and Hines 2 into 1 ProPipe. Tuner is a FP3 and had a couple of maps sent my way from V&H. It pulls hard and to me runs damn well. No dyno and I am getting upper 40s if I am just riding it normal and not twisting it out a lot. I had thought I may be missing something by not getting a Power Vision and a dyno tune but I already had the FP3 when I first installed the Short Shots no cam. I don’t think I want to spend another 1500 bucks when to me it’s pretty damn good as it is. Nice bike you have 👍 Ride safe and be aware, here in SC our drivers don’t know what a red light is. 😳
Yeah people say dynojet is better but no explanation. I’m curious if switching will help at least for me. Thanks for watching! And you ride safe as well!!
Yeah, I been thinkng about the 475 on my scooter. Just not really feeling the reduced MPH.
Beautiful bike. It’s my dream bike actually. Where’d you get those gloves by the way?
Thanks! They’re from thrashin supply
That Frederick Harley Davidson? I’ve been looking at my first Harley, and those guys have been super helpful.
It is! I like that dealership
Greetings to all of you.
I have a FatBoy 114/2019.
I don’t have any experience with Stage2.
I would like to install Stage2 but I have a problem to select the right one. Was it the difference between 475 or 465 ?
Thank you very much for your help.
Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭. But I come from Cuba 🇨🇺😃😎🙏
I’m about to get S&S 475 cams on a FatBoy I’m buying. I think the cons are ok for me but it’s good to know about them. Thanks 🙏
Glad it was helpful!
Damn, look at that a fellow Frednecker. Guess I’m going to have to start to follow you and the other guy. Also see Pat or Nat at the local HD. They will get that bike tuned to perfection.
Maryland ftw! Who’s the other guy?
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I m new into motorcycle world ,it’s been little over a year m riding ,and m thinking to install stage 2 on my 2019 Electra glide .can I install at my bike ,,I wil pay u ,plus I live in New York queens
Hey man didn’t know if you have got this figured out yet or not. But after a few months of having my 475 cam installed and about 10 auto tune sessions I am getting 10mpg more per fill up. Actually on long rides cruising around d 80-90 mph I was averaging 48mpg. Stock was 34-36.
What tuner are you using?
Bike sounds mean, very kool pipe, did you get the gear drive cam? I think they would be preferable for low speed throttle response/ control, just sayin.
Went with the chain drive. Didn’t know what my crank run out was so just opted for the chain
Awesome review man,, beautiful and amazing bike…
Thanks Johnny! Ride safe
@IronBornRider im no mechanic but ive done everything to my bike. You think i could do the cam myself.harley charges me like 2gs and local shop 1g
@@johnnybotello4304 I did the cam myself with very little prior experience. If you get the right tools it’ll help the process a lot. And watch a lot of install videos
Question if i may. By any chance did you get the code PO330 on your bike. I got it and ive changed 2 tunes from fuel moto and both tunes give me same code keeps coming back after erased.. help if possible please
i love my 475 on my 21 RGS but im down to 30 mpg if i baby the bike. i was at 42 mpg when i had the stage one. this is my only gripe. i love the bike but range is a big thing for me so i may do a cam swap soon.
The range is concerning for me too. I’m thinking a good tune might help out a bit
@@IronBornRider whatre you averaging (MPG) on your bike?
@@ryanridesmoore I haven’t done a a thorough test but I’d guesstimate maybe 30mpg or less
Can you install an s&s after doing a stage IV…later when the warranty expires?
I think you can
Thanks my friend, im wanting to do this myself, I still deciding on the 465 or 475 , I do many long trips 400,500 mile days, but I also do many shorter 200 mile days. I keep thinking of going 465? But I agree the 475 does sound a little better than the 465 😂
I heard the 465 might be easier as a daily driver, but I’ve never tried one
The 465c comes on earlier @ 2.97 rpm. Sounds great with the S&S Grand National slip ons.
I went with the woods 22xe 121 Hp 132 trq. Awesome fuel mileage same or better than stock and I blow by my buddies like there standing still you'll get some haters brother
@brianflowers4751 how rideability lower down? Bet it rips!!
Damn, sounds sweet. My kind ride...... 🤘
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words
No one usually tells you the cons
Its normal to lose the fuel economy
Yea it pulls like a monster when you have open roads you can open the throttle and ride hard
But in most traffic areas or everyday riding its not nice
Takes too long to build power before the next turn comes up, takes off slow off the lights, and is terrible around slow corners or roundabouts, you always have to pull the clutch or feather it to not lug the bike
I found i had to always ride a gear lower revving loud as hell just to have the power readily available that i was wanting
Rather a pain in the ass and that was in a breakout i couldnt imagine in a tourer..
I honestly enjoyed the s/e torque cam better but obviously the 475 sounded better and had more power up top
I think a nice aftermarket torque cam like a fueling or s&s 465 would be the perfect inbetween and is the route ill go next time for everyday use😂
In saying all that i did still love it and glad i tried it out for some time, it does have character and im sure lots love it but just didnt suit my riding style
Really good point and I agree 100%. I noticed that I’m clutching a lot more during slow speeds to smooth out the bike which isn’t ideal. Getting caught in traffic now is so much more painful because the cam wants to just let loose haha. I’m still enjoying the cam overall, we’ll see how it fares over time.
Sounds great. What year is your Lowrider? I noticed you have gauges on your tank as my. 23 Lowrider ST fast Johnny has the newer Street Bob style gauges.
Mine is a 2020. The first couple of year they had the gauges on the tank
@@IronBornRider cool, I like that better than mine.
@@IronBornRider also did you change your valve springs etc or do other mechanical mods to the engine when you installed the cam ? Thanks.
I have a 475 in my ST and managing low speed maneuvers in 1st is a lot more difficult. Even with a good tune I had.
You also need to change your throttle body intake manifold and injectors it will help with fuel efficiency
Yup that’s on the to do list.
Guys please advise if low rider s is great for long trips , planning to trade in my xlc 1200 custom and get low rider s , but have a bad back , are the suspensions on these good
There are better softails for comfort, but with some modifications the low rider s can be good for long trips
No problem riding on long trips, I have the 2019 low rider standard and I do several 400,500 mile days and love it, all stock except slip ones and Harley’s sun downer seat, different bars hated the buckhorns. Go for it you’ll love it especially if you get the S
thanks mate
@@IronBornRider
thanks mate, planning to book a test ride and check , cos these Models have sewing machine sound lol
yeah had Solo Sundowner for Custom, but changed to Saddlemen now , had a minor incident , bike in workshop , will try a tradie in with Harley Heaven once they done with repairs ,cheers
safe ride everyone@@tennesseebound6597
I ride about 250 to 300 miles every Sunday on mine, it's great with a good seat
Hello, did you get any oil coming out of your air filter?
No I didn’t
Dang, I installed same kit on my 21 Softail Standard and by the time I get home from rides, it's dripping from the bottom of my air filter. It did it before the cam, just a bit but now it's crazy!
My bike is horrible after the 475 at slow speeds.Going from a stop to on throttle.Anf yes was tuned properly.
I’ve heard this from multiple people and it’s talked on various videos in CZcams
@@Crateix Thanks for the reply
I would definately get that bike tuned, you are leavin power on the table and probably some mpg as well. Sounds mean though.
It’s on the long list of things I want to do 😂
@@IronBornRider I have the thundermax ecm on my XR, it dyno's a few hp more then other bikes like mine with similar mods. Now I haven't made any changes to it or really plan to and with 92 rwhp, thats more then enough to put me in the ER at 50 years old lol
Looks fine! but your bags are backwards. That round cut in the top velcro is to curve in front of the seat bolt
I know, but I’ve tried it the other way and it just doesn’t look right
Yah I get it, I think they are cut like that because they are also for Dyna's... that cut is so it fits over the shock. Forreal though, I'm not talking smack. Looks fine, there's a lot of baggers that have angles just like that on the back@@IronBornRider
@@user-cm2kn9ky8d I didn’t take any offense, I appreciate the feedback. I did upgrade though to some Leatherpros finally so there’s that too lol
Does it level out at cruising speed?
Yeah as soon as you hit about 2800-3k rpm it smoothed out
Drinking game: each time he says "475 cam" take a drink.
Sounds like u put back your exhaust and it’s binding causing it to vibrate even more
Had that cam replace with fuel moto reaper 472 cam. Superior cam you lose no Lo end torque compared to the 475 and pulls like a freight train up top. Both had fuel 6 hour Dyno tune. 475 sounds better the 472 superior power at all rpm’s.
Heard good things about the fuel moto reaper cam. Very nice
Thats harley of frederick…. Where you from?
I’m local in Maryland. I’m in the Rockville area
You and I must literally be neighbors. I knew every road that you went on. If you’re interested in meeting up and riding let me know.
You in the Rockville area? Feel free to hit me up on Instagram
@@IronBornRider just across the county line in Urbana.
@@1Bigduff ah you’re north of me. I was actually riding out to Frederick Harley to visit. Great roads up there
Is the low end torque on the 475 worse than stock cam?
I haven’t done a dyno to compare before and after but to me it doesn’t feel worse. It does lug if you feather the clutch or ride in the lower rpm’s
Yes much worse under 3k
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im thinking about doing my own cam what tools would you say are a must have for this job
Assuming you have a standard set of tools, you’ll also want to get a cam bearing tool, crankshaft runout tool
@@IronBornRider are those tools you can rent or you buy and use once
@@LSHD254 I’m not sure if you can rent them. I bought mine off of Amazon and it wasn’t too bad
@@IronBornRider ok was there anything that you didn’t plan on needing that you ending up having to get just trying to prepare as much as possible
@@IronBornRider ok cool
2022 RGS 2in1 big breather,powervision, etc.bike runs hard in the throttlw.traffice slow speeds pretty fuckn horrible. Its a love hate with rhis cam
I hate being in traffic that much more now. It’s miserable
What if you went with the Powervision? Can the low speed issues being fixed? And can you describe how its horrible. Does it seem like the bike wants to stall on you at low speeds while manuvering?etc. Thanx!!
@@andrewwatt8726 I’ve read that with a dyno tune you can smooth out the throttle response a bit. At lower rpm you have to make sure to give it more gas than you typically would or else it feels like it’ll stall
Never and I mean never cam an M8 without a tune or auto tune just isn’t worth it.
Sounds great 👍 , bitch'en bad ass bike !!! Just bought one for my wife 😁
Awesome! She’s a lucky woman
I found out also right away that 475 is not that smooth in lower gears an lower speed
Agreed!
That’s what she said
She did lol
Bad tune u should get 38 to 42 mpg
CR/APE 483 sounds better, and I walk 475s all day. Got 125hp/135tp on the dyno with the SPC Big bore and V&H VO2 Falcon
nonsense
Hahaha you couldn’t help yourself “that’s what she said”
I am not hearing anything significant about this cam. It’s basically a cam change and a tune.
A good, drop in torque cam. Nothing kuch to it. It is the best sounding cam upgrade for a 107 or 114, in my opinion.
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Stop wasting time get yourself a Redshift 472 one and done night and day 🎉
FP3 is trash. Complete waste of money. Thundermax or Power Vision are the only options. You're leaving ALL of the performance on the table by not having a dyno tune using either of those.
But why is the fp3 trash? No one could ever give me a detailed answer other than “it’s trash”. I actually would like to know
It's not. They don't sell millions because they are trash. They work just fine with a stage 1 upgrade. That being said, after a cam swap there is no substitute for a dyno/tune at a good shop by a knowledgeable tuner. @@IronBornRider
Great bike for grandma.
I have a 22 Road glide ST and run a 475, injectors, turbo etc now, pretty built up..
What you are experiencing is normal power increase and fuel decrease, you are also experiencing a major tuning issue. When my bike had a Dynajet it, the bike would chop and run like an old school dual cammed bike that’s hopped. It should not run that much chop with this small cam, after a proper Dyno tune you are then finding out that you have been starving your bike and hurting the poor thing. Get it healthy, it will run a lot better.
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Thanks for the advice. Really helpful 🤘