Western Sydney Airport Tour: Sneak Peak Inside (Nov 2022)
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- I was super lucky to have been invited to visit the currently-under construction Western Sydney International Airport last week! It was a really exciting experience getting to see the entire site under construction, taking in the absolute hive of activity unfolding at the site. Lucky for you all, I took plenty of photos and videos! Follow me inside the airport as we explore it all, from the check-in area, to the retail space, to the baggage drop-off zones to the apron and so much more.
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Glad to have you along mate! It was a great time and can’t wait ‘til this thing is open. It is well and truly long overdue.
I really love your coverages of Sydney infrastructure, something nobody on CZcams has yet covered. Good on you.
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Wow i can't believe it's this far along. I'm 50, so can recall all the 'fights' during the 80s and 90s against the airport. It's long overdue IMO. Also at my age, I'll probably be dead by the time it reaches that peak in 2063. I resent the comment of there being "nothing there" on the drive. There is green open space, which, IMO, is better than sterile built up area, and increasing urbanisation, that increases the heat and wind effects in those areas. Hope you're enjoying Tassie, my father in law lives there, and as such I've been many times, it's a beautiful state to visit. If you read this before leaving Tassie, I hope you get the chance to visit Ashgrove Cheese, and Anvers Chocolates, 2 of my favourite places in the north.
Thank you for your comment. You make great points. There's definitely stuff out there, you're right. Remains to be seen how the next few years will change that. Already in Tassie, will be sure to check your recommendations out!
@@BuildingBeautifully I live in the Penrith area, 15 min drive from the airport. Definitely stuff out here. There will be more to come with the airport too.
Thank you so much dude for covering this kind of stuff, it's nearly impossible to find relevant deep dives about Australian transport system, keep up the good work
Re the curfew: note it's not just the night curfew but also the hourly curfew that can be really killer at YSSY. Planes sometimes have to wait at the runway for the clock to tick over, even if the previous hour had barely any flights. Really compounds delays because the airport can't make up time.
Thanks Donn! That was a great decision.
12:53 The basement fit out for the robotic baggage handling system, plumbing, hvac, etc. will take _many_ truckloads of equipment so MPX will leave the current access ramp in place for a good while before backfilling up to ground level🙂
Hey Sharath, regardless of what you think, this was the most video I have seen about the new airport, and full of great images and info, thanks for it and I am glad you enjoyed the tour. Cheers mate.
Thank you!!
Those drone shots are cool. That will be impossible once the airport opens, make the most of it!
What an opportunity to see all the construction of the new airport 👍👍
looks good now curfews and other factors at sydney airport made me realise why they are building it i was pushing more for major investment and expansion at newcastle airport to be sydneys second airport
16:20 its biggest selling point is lack of curfew. problem is though, with their grand plans of building a new city around the airport, eventually the residents will be pissed and a curfew will be implemented.
Great video, thanks Sharath. As to it being 24/7 and a replacement, I’m thinking this is engineers’ dreams. SYD has two overwater runways, the new airport has none, but it has bazillions of residents ready to make complaints once they perceive the aircraft noise reality. My money is on a curfew (after the howls start) and no replacement.
Indeed. For obvious reasons State and Federal governments have not highlighted the new airport no curfew plans. Large parts of western Sydney might not become fully aware of this until they are chronically sleep deprived after months of operations. By then the airport might have become such a political liability. Governments will be forced to make changes.
Yeah I suppose we'll have to wait and see. There's a lot of cynics in the comments...I'm personally hoping the lack of curfew remains, but who knows what will happen.
On the Metro it should be noted that it will be in the centre of the fully built terminal. The current terminal under construction (while large) is only about 20% of the final design (with an additional runway).
To be honest a bus would probably have been good enough for the first 5-10 years anyway, and the rail connection won't really get going until the connections are built to Tallawong and Glenfield/Macarthur as well as the 2nd link to Parramatta.
Even better a short cheap extension to the SW rail would provide even better service, and a direct link to the CBD which the metro won't. Once again ideology trumps value for money.
@@jack2453 Both links are about the same distance so would have cost similar amounts.
St.Marys however provides far better access to the Penrith to Parramatta corridor that the airport is primarily designed to serve, as they currently have the furthest distance to travel to the main Sydney airport.
@@mark123655 10km of new automated metro largely in tunnel has to be considerably more expensive than a 10 km extension to existing heavy rail or a 1-2 km extension to the already planned line to Aerotropolis. But it is not either/or the cost of a heavy rail link from the termibal to the Aerotropolis would be trivial in the context of the total project cost, and the benefit of an express a no-change single seat ride to the CBD would be enormous.
But to the detriment of people going to Parramatta, and particularly to Penrith - probably by 20-30min
This is a 2nd airport, not a replacement.
For the first 20+ yrs Mascot will be much larger and have way more flights to multiple destinations.
Even if flights are slightly cheaper, your average CBD exec isn't going to spend 1hr+ on a train to Badgerys when Mascot is much closer.
@@mark123655 ....and tha average Western Sydney resident is not going to wait an hour for a bus to the rail station, then 20 minutes for a train to St Marys, then schlep their bags from the rail station to the metro station when they have a 4WD in the garage.
My 7pm flight from Auckland to Sydney was delayed by about 2 hours (broken refrigerator). We ended up arriving in Sydney at 10:59pm local, squeaking in before curfew
Traveling to this airport will take longer than the flight! Lol
Awesome opportunity! Thanks for the video on it. I also love flying my drone over the site, as well as on the upgraded northern road. heaps happening there.
Thank you!!
I hope that the upgraded northern road can handle the traffic of providing for what will be a logistical hub. Ideally, this should be an opportunity to expand sydney's metropolitan rail freight lines, in my opinon. The northern road is quiet now, but once there's a city built around it and it's flogged with commuter and industrial traffic, that could be a different story.
Thanks very much for this mate
Good thing that you flew your drone at a relatively low altitude, Western Sydney Airport is a favourite fly-over zone for student pilots flying from Camden since it's in the designated 'training area' (AFAIK). There was even an emergency landing made by a GA (General Aviation) aircraft there at some point recently. Great aviation-related content, keep it up! :)
Further on that, the badgery's creek aircraft training area spans from camden to the edge of glenmore park and is the training area for all Sydney general aviation traffic including bankstown and the oaks, so it gets incredibly busy. As long as you keep your drones below 400ft AGL there won't be a conflict.
@@morerightrudder9742 Thanks for the additional info. Is your username PTSD from your instructor noticing drift on takeoff/touch'n'go? haha
I remember that emergency landing, honestly I'm going to be somewhat disappointed if they don't have a photo of it displayed somewhere paying homage to the first ever aircraft to land at the airport.
I admit I felt very illegal flying my drone over the airport...but I've seen so many others do it that I assume it's fine! Not allowed to go higher than 120 metres - in fact the drone won't even let me!
@@BuildingBeautifully Perfectly legal below 400ft AGL, any higher and as pilots we'd be dodging drones every day since we legally cannot fly below 500ft AGL in unpopulated areas.
Great video once again mate...love your enthusiasm towards the project in its entirety...I'm in Jordan Springs (and have always lived in GWS) and look forward to seeing the airport open, and what it does generally for the GWS region.
The good thing about building it new is that all the most modern of hardware can be built into it from the outset...as opposed to retro fitting it all into existing buildings such as Kingsford Smith...whilst maintaining operations. Will be great to see it all in operation in the years to come...and the eventual first operations of the airport.
Loving the channel as always...and enjoy the Tassie trip!!!
Great video - quite jealous you got to have this tour of the site! The land prior to construction was beautifully undulating, but wholly unsuitable for use as an airport (can you imagine it LOL). I'm looking forward to seeing the vision for the airport realised but also concerned for the impacts to the surrounding sensitive land users. Thanks for putting the video together & thanks Donn for making it possible!
So you're aware, the metro is outside the main terminal for future planning. When the 2nd runway is built there will be an additional terminal directly opposite the current one. The metro will be center to both.
oh thank you. just got to that part of the video and was about to rant about typical government stupidity. glad to see this isnt the case.
Makes sense!
I'm in two minds about this thing tbh. But your video was great.
Thank you for sharing your awesome day out. In case anybody is wondering why Sydney is getting a shiny new airport and they aren’t, well it goes back to 1939. The federal government of the day pledged to build each capital city a “new airport” Well, over time each capital has got an airport (including my home city of Melbourne in 1970) except for Sydney. After 83 years, they are finally getting what they were “owed”.
First we get the airport then we get the money
Then we get the women
Cool to see how it's progressed so far.
What an amazing opportunity!
Thanks Donn!! What a top bloke
Northern Road is very beautifully planned, Especially for u-turns, and for managing long term traffic going at high speed. Very Nice summary of the Airport in this video! Can't wait for the Airport to open soon!
Oh wow! I cannot wait to watch this!
THANK YOU DON
That is incorrect, you don't have to use the toll, there is an interchange direct from the M12 to Elizabeth Drive. This means you can meaningfully use it as the entire length of the Motorway is accessible toll-free.
If the New West SYD is for full old SYD replacement when it open, it would be having a 2-3 times bigger terminal, around 400,000-700,000 sq metres floor space, like Hong Kong Airport T1 size, and also build the 2nd runway together.
I recently discovered your channel and would like to say that it is an absolute fucking goldmine for Sydney residents such as myself.
Fabulous, adn great coverage. I remember riding my motorbike around this area decades ago: few cops so a nice long touring ride at a decent speed. I also remember noticing the big empty. It didn't even seem to be useful farmland; just acres of paddock. Perfect place for an airport.
I'm guessing the basement hasn't been closed in yet so that all the 'close in' would happen at once.
Basement? What is this, inglorious basterds?
The Airport Metro station is actually in the middle of the airport terminal, just not when it opens. Once the 2nd runway opens the terminal will wrap around the metro station site.
Oh 👁👄👁
Thanks Sharath, loving all your content and this was a really insightful behind the scenes look at the progress being made on the new airport! 👏
Well done. Brilliant Work. Descriptive and Informative. You now have another New Subscriber. Cheers from Western Australia.
FYI. All night flights will arrive and depart from the South/West direction and there will be virtually no restrictions flying over the Sydney Catchment area other than planes cannot fly directly over Warragamba Dam wall.
Great video! Thanks.
What you need at an Airport, Bird ponds! and a train terminal not in the arrivals building. Still the dunnies are centrally located.
On regards about the M12 motorway you will be able to use it from The Northern Road!
But it is pretty much a one way trip on to the M7 either way.
Amazon already has its robotic distribution centre out in Kemps Creek. It to is MASSIVE!!! Wish I could post photos in comments
I guess you could say its amazon...ing
Regarding Elizabeth Dive. They will do it once the heavy works are complete, no point destroying a brand new road.
I dislike airports where the domestic side is far, far away from the international buildings, so inconvenient when you need to change airlines. Thank you for the video. It was really interesting.
Thanks Sharath. Great video. It supplements the work that Big Jay has been doing with his drone work
Thank you!
There is a huge land with huge potential, please don’t mess it up, Sydney!
Elizabeth drive is a goats track. Great videos
Yup so is the M7!!
cool. Thanks for the informative vid👍
I was super lucky to have been invited to visit the currently-under construction Western Sydney International Airport last week! It was a really exciting experience getting to see the entire site under construction, taking in the absolute hive of activity unfolding at the site. Lucky for you all, I took plenty of photos and videos! Follow me inside the airport as we explore it all, from the check-in area, to the retail space, to the baggage drop-off zones to the apron and so much more.Apologies Sir/Madam for simply copying your Work. Highly Important My View That WE Collectovely Promote/ Market/ Plug This Massive Human Achievement ! Very Very Merry Christmas And New Year !
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they should build a heavy rail hub at that airport for future like how schipol does it.
Amazing video!
I personally believe that this airport will change the economy and social state of Sydney or even as far more impactful towards NSW. Anyways great video and I’ll see u in a week 😂
awesum video mate..
Just based on the location and lack of piping, I don't see this new airport becoming the default airport of choice for most people that don't live anywhere near it.
A taxi to the city may cost more than the airfare.
An uber during a train strike
Re Elizabeth Drive, better to let the existing road take the heavy construction wear and tear, then when the heavy trucks are gone (or at least reduced) rebuild it as 4 lanes like Northern Road. I look forward to retiring soon and a 10 - 25 min metro ride from Oran park to the Airport to get some travelling in.
It's greatly needed but the no curfew thing is a little concerning as I live quite close
Remember in the 90s everyone was having a meltdown for the Holsworthy/Badgerys Creek airport proposal
Ground floor and then Level 2 is fairly standard in Australia - it's a strange quirk of our buildings and confusing for non-Aussies.
A lot of tourists are going to be pretty pissed when they realise they've been dumped 70km away from actual Sydney.
Thanks I liked this . very informative thanks mate.
Great video - thanks
Nice video! You’re right, there is nothing out there! But, like you, I’m bullish about this huge project.
“Metres squared” is just plain wrong. Please use the mathematically correct term: “square metres”, ie m^2, measuring area. “Metres squared” (^2m) is a linear measurement. The numeral 100 is 10 squared (10^2 or 10 x 10), or the square root of 100 is 10. “^2” denotes a “superscripted 2” like superscripting the “th” in “4th”. YT comments cannot superscript. Therefore, 75,000 or 75k “square metres” ie 75,000m^2 in scientific notation (7.5 hectares or ~18.5 acres) of which the square root is ~273.86m. In conclusion, 75,000 “metres squared” or 75,000^2m is a linear measurement, 5,625,000,000 metres ie 5,625,000 kilometres - just a little bit out?
I have been a property valuer for 40 years all around Australia, determining building and land areas and writing thousands of valuation reports, so I know what I am talking about 😬
Oh nice
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Hello, I am a new guy to the channel. I am so glad that there is someone who loves trains as much as me!!
I think that the airport will be a much needed addition and the new metro going under it will be an exciting new adventure, and question, do you think that there will be more normal train lines or will Sydney completely convert to metro? You are also so lucky to have gone into it
This is wonderful
I reckon in addition to the Metro to St Marys, I think they should also extend the Parramatta Light Rail to the new Aerotropolis via the right of way of the Parramatta - Liverpool Transitway. Reply with your thoughts to my idea
Just wait till it opens for the flood of complaints about a curfew. Some politician wanting to get elected will promise a curfew lets hope the operating contract is watertight on 24/7 operation. In regard to the curfew now here's 1 example. EK414 from Dubai usually lands at 10:30pm. If your connecting with that flight, from somewhere else in Europe & your connecting flight is late EK414 cannot wait for you as it will miss the curfew in Sydney. If that flight gets moved to Sydney West in the future a half-hour delay won't be a problem. What happens if your late into Dubai they offer you the next available flight which goes via Singapore. That adds nearly 12 hours & one extra stop on your flight. I was offered that but chose to sit it out for 7 hours in Dubai & arrived on the 6am flight the next morning. Can't wait to have Sydney West as an option just for the 20 minute drive home from the airport
And some welcome home krispy kreme! 👌
Great video mate well done.
never thought I would see this airport get built in my lifetime, I was born in the 70s, and this project would get dug up and paraded around the media once every couple of years (usually around election time), and 40+ years later it is finally happening................
it really should be building both runways now, not just the one.
Excellent video. Some countries don't have Ground Floors in building, it's always the First Floor so that may be the reason for no First Floor at the new terminal buiding as the Ground Floor is also the First Floor. All the buildings I vistited in the Philippines didn't have Ground Floors 😉
Great video 👏
Great vlog and great to see someone enthusiastic about government building. Most of the videos you have produced have been about projects that have failed to be supported one way or another. Let’s hope the new airport does not make that list in the future, although a railway station a hundred metres from the door does not give me a lot of confidence, without adding the 2-3 hour trip to the city for business or medical appointment in a crowded carriage. A camel is a race horse designed by a government. An airport is not a destination.
It’s currently about 1-2 hours to Sydney CBD (depending on the level of traffic) via Elizabeth Dr & Northern Rd. The extension of the M4 tunnels to ANZAC bridge (which is currently happening) will help in shortening that time. The extension of the M4 tunnel will potentially save about 20-25 minutes in travel time. And it should continue to be eligible for the toll relief/refund scheme for privately registered vehicles.
Good insight mate, but hopefully they already find the solution for the fuel transport, or this will be 2nd avalon.
Also have you thought of using Nearmaps for visuals? It's a paid service but has better mapping tools.
nearmap is really expensive isnt it
The Wylde Mountain bike park was relocated to make way for the M12 Motorway to the new airport along Elizabeth Drive. Liverpool BMX track also got moved there after it was suspiciously closed due to the "discovery" of asbestos. Same thing happened to the radio control car track. Both were operating for years until someone went looking for asbestos there so they could shut them down. I will never use the new airport. My travelling days are behind me now.
drove past this on the way to osce
Did you also drive past it on your way back home to Telopea
There was a recent announcement that said the M12 design would be changed to allow for toll free access from Elizabeth drive?
Yes, I saw that too in the amended M12 proposals. Plus I assume it would be toll-free from the western end off The Northern Road.
Something I haven't seen though is any talk of an extra lane on the M7 between the M4 and M5. Given that it is often a slow moving car park during peaks with its existing level of traffic.
@@tacitdionysus3220 They announced in August that they'd be adding an extra lane in each direction from the M5 junction to Richmond Rd.
@@robberbuttonoz Thanks Cobalt. Found it. That'll teach me to Google before opening my mouth!
Oops...you are right. My bad, I glossed over the maps way too fast. That's good to hear.
@@tacitdionysus3220 that carpark can bring a grown man to tears
14:25 probably similar concept used by Adelaide Airport
Correction. Nothing to do with Westconnex is sustainable!
I agree with that the airport will been a great investment for western Sydney, but the way that the state government handles infrastructure and the "latte or red rooster line" is proof that there will be more issues with this airport. The fact of curfews and flight paths and adding infrastructure like you talked about with Marsden Park will show how inept the state government is with dealing with Western Sydney
I love your videos. Extremely informative. It would be perfect if they built a high speed rail network between the new Western Sydney Airport and the Sydney CBD. aka Maglev or similar like Shanghai. Metro is just way too slow
I'm excited to see the new airport come to life. I sometimes have wondered why the govt. didn't just upgrade an existing airport like Richmond or Newcastle rather than build something completely new. Maybe someone can enlighten me, Is it because they are also RAAF bases?
Insufficient space. No room for freight operations, car parks, passenger terminals etc. Richmond already has housing very close to the western end of runway so unable to extend/duplicate. No high speed exits on runways. The list is endless.
The Toll on the M7 makes it virtually impossible for overseas travellers to use, and therefore won't be able to use the M12 to access the airport.
That's going to lead to a lot of overseas (or even out-of-state) travellers using local roads instead.
Any motorway which is designed to link an international airport to a city should have a toll-free option, whether it be by means of separate lanes for express toll users, or even by setting up the tollgates at the airport to issue free tickets, or incur no fee when a ticket is presented.
Overseas travellers can use public transport
Might not have a curfew now, but give it time, future councils, or future state governments, or both, will allow building suburbia underneath the flight plan...and then we will hear the mantra of "Oh the plane noise is so bloody loud, so please put a curfew on late night plane arrivals".
Great place for the Airport pity about the infrastructure should completely finish the rail line to Leppington Station and maybe build another line to the Illawarra area for a complete transformation of Western Sydney and NSW the premier state
BTW, is it possible to link the first part from the description? When you mentioned it, I immediately went to the description to watch it first but didn't notice it there 😞
Wouldn’t it make more sense to build the second runway now rather than in a decade or two?
I had to check what you said, but only 7 piers with 14 gates seems way to few. I look at Melbourne or Sydney airports today and see 40 or 50 gates each. How can 14 gates possibly meet demand? Oh, and surely all good lounges should have a view of the runways and apron. Will it really only be 1st class that gets to see the big birds flock fly?
Talking of a congested airport forcing the government to react and find a new place for a new airport, I will use Shanghai as an example (quite a similar situation building its 2nd international airport as Sydney is going through), which its Hongqiao airport(SHA),was built in 1920s, expanded several times to an international terminal in 60s, reach its capacity and it was already too late to expand itself to a larger scale in the 80s as its nearby land had been taken by residents and businesses over the years(which made it still a 2-runway, 2-terminal airport till this date), so Shanghai gov. have to look for places for a new international airport (which it became the Pudong international airport(PVG) at its city far east to its CBD, compared to SHA western location to the CBD, but closer, size-wise PVG 1.45m sqm to SHA 0.51m sqm, and operation-wise PVG is more international flights focused, while SHA is more domestic flights focused, though both international and domestic flights are available in both airports)
My point here is that western Sydney Airport will be an amazing project to help Kingsford Smith, and the western Sydney area, given its proposed number of runways and terminals, and public transit projects to complement it. Kingsford Smith to Sydney can be like Hongqiao to Shanghai, more of a domestic flights focused, closer to CBD option for travellers(though the curfew is still a major downside but will be less painful to most if there is a second option), while the new airport can be the giant hub of travellers, cargoes, workers to go around the world.
As for the concern about curfew enforcement out there, I've been wondering why Tullamarine in Melbourne doesn't have one, given there are also some residential zone around it as I looked up, hmm.
Pretty sure there is no need to use the M7 to access the M12. Plans show entry from Walgrove Rd.
Metro Trains Sydney (MTS) will not operate the metro for the airport so that's why the trains are a bit different
It’s interesting with no curfew at Western Sydney Airport. Assuming passenger flights could leave and arrive at the airport at any time, will there be a 24 hour metro service to the airport? Even if you make the driverless metro airport line a 24 hour operation, the metro does not meet every corner of Sydney, relying on few interchanges with suburban train lines that are not 24 hours.
Hence why it should just be connected to Tallawong. Easiest option for now to provide a 24/7 service to the CBD.
I heard immigration arrival will be above the departure, before you go downstairs to baggage which i like over a cramp ground floor arrival....
And i wonder how the flight load will be spread (such as a singa/thai or malaysia or even emeriate airlines having an midnight departure and night arrival at that airport operating from western sydney and their retrospective morning arrival/departure uses the current ksa).
Malaysia or emirates will probably stay at Kingsford smith
Can someone comment on the lack of a jet fuel pipeline direct to the new airport...? If there is no pipeline, imagine the number of trucks daily to supply enough fuel to keep the planes operating.
They make make fences high enough to stop kangaroos .What about wombats ?
Do you have any more information on how the gates can be swapped between domestic and international? That sounds very interesting!
At other airports I've experienced, one level is for domestic, another level (on top or below) for international, so they just open the ramp up or down depending on the flight, I assume something like that.
@@wkapri correct. Done in CBR, ADL and OOL
I don't, but what @wkapri has said sounds right for sure
They have this in Adelaide. The gates are all the same level, they just have big sliding glass doors that can be used to isolate a flexible number of the central gates to funnel passengers through the centrally located inbound and outbound immigration facilities. The way it's laid out in Adelaide, all passengers (domestic and international) proceed from check-in through security to the "secure"/"airside" part of the terminal first, but then International passengers go through outward border control to enter the inner "International" part of the terminal, which has access to however many gates they have sealed off for international use at the time. Arriving international passengers are directed to an intermediate level below for arrivals immigration before going down to the lower level for international baggage reclaim then through the customs exit.
It looks like the gates themselves are intended to be mixed mode - the 7 piers having dual aerobridges might be able to convert into two gates per pier for smaller aircraft, but larger aircraft both need more space and typically use two aerobridges (as shown in the mock-ups in the video).
Love your enthusiasm on how big the airport is. On a world stage however it looks average size, it will open with Just one runway and there is only room for a second runway, most major world airports have 3, 4, 5 or more runways. What I do not understand is what is its role when it opens? what is the point keeping KSA open when such a far superior airport is in use?
The heavy transport industry of sydney near the airport will abate, allowing inner city hipsters to have their double soy macchiato with gluten free organically sourced ice cubes in peace
KSA is quite close to Sydney CBD. Also, those on the Eastern Suburbs and The Shire would not want to travel to the “Wild West” to catch a flight 😂
@@DonnyDonnMendoza aww that's a shame, they could have had will smith and Kevin kline come and take on a giant spider