The BEST Thing About PC Gaming - Retro Gaming on OLED
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
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Gaming has come a long way since the days of CRT, and so have displays. I modified some of my favorite games and played them on an OLED to see if it makes a difference!
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0:00 Intro
1:08 GTA IV
4:10 Dragon Age: Origins
6:02 Super Mario Wide
9:50 Tie Fighter
12:10 Final Fantasy Tactics
13:25 Far Cry
15:20 Conclusion
15:50 Outro - Věda a technologie
This is the longest ad for a TV I've ever watched.
Its like: look at this game it wouldnt look that good without the LG Oled TV
@@WhiteBoyGamer
The real observant ones will remember him criticizing these TVs for burn in just the other day lol man, funny how fast opinions change when there’s a cheque on the table.
@@brando3342 he was talking about oled in general and using the LG as an example.. Dont forget they gave him that TV too..
Do you expect him to go spend thousands on something else?
@@WhiteBoyGamerhe literally put a link to buy LG's oled TV in the description .It's really obvious this video is an ad
Yup! We love you Linus and know you have bills to pay, but this is rather shameless.
If you look closely at this OLED TV ad you can almost see linus explaining the best things about PC gaming!
Yea man too much sponsored content nowadays on the main channel
@@prathameshtope4389 Yeah, but I don't really mind it to much cuz its entertaining for me
Lol I was coming into the comments section to say the same thing!
Except I kind of mind it, the distinction for what's ok in a sponsorship by linus' own words weren't well respected here
@@prathameshtope4389 Need to pay the bills right ! Plus 30+ employees
I guess activating Windows is pretty much a must when using an OLED panel... otherwise that watermark in gonna burn in in no time
well you have that watermark either way so you wont even notice if the pixels burned or not...
One more reason to install GNOME based GNU/Linux distros.
😁true
top kek
Or disable the watermark via the registry.
In the past, I know you've been accused of being too aggressive with advertising, and I never agreed. This, however, is just an ad. It feels the video content is designed *around* the ad, and is at best 50% of the actual length.
true
All his sponsored videos are like this, every og linus viewer knows this.
I'm totally in the favor of those ad videos if the product is good. Oled TVs are really fantastic for gaming. And for anything else.
If it fits the budget I'd recommend anyone to get it.
The title was misleading though and funny enough I initially didn't click it because I don't care that much about PC gaming.
@@IRMacGuyver oled sucks for gaming? What? You're crazy. For gaming burn in is usually no issue. Only for desktop use it can get problematic.
@@daniel_960_ Burn in.
Oleds absolutely SUCK for gaming, unless you like burn in.
This feels more like a video on how OLED is better than LCD than one on how PC gaming is superior.
It's sponsored by LG, what did you expect?
I disagree, since many sections talked about modding, emulation and so on. But yes they pushed the OLED alleged superiority whenever they could.
The next video will be sponsored by LG LCD Nano displays. To show the advanteges over OLED. I promis. 😉
Yep, I can't watch this crap. It is literally just an LG OLED ad with some footage of old games being played. Nope. Nope nope nope. Luckily there are tons of channels on YT which post some actual content instead of advertisements.
@@TheRealWinser so your saying you can't retro game becuase its 2021? You cant do it unless you go back in time? Now they are displaying your options in 2021, retro software with retro hardware OR you can use your retro software with MODERN hardware and this is a start for those with little understanding of the topic. Ltt has much more indepth videos on modern hardware and accessories for improving the experience. But if you had none of the hardware and no crt. Oled would be the single easiest step a user can take to replicate old feel( speed and color wise) without having to deal with MULTIPLE accessories. Think of this as aimed for none enthusiasts.
I truly don’t mind listening to Linus ramble on about OLED for 16 min but at least let me know that’s what I’m going to be listening to
this
Exactly I like listening to linus and would listen to his ad if i knew thats what i was getting into
Right! He could have talked about the new switch for OLED or whatever
A sponsorship probably shouldn't include you measuring how good the product is compared to others when the title is about pc gaming
he does... in the first 30 seconds of video.
@@pimpinwilly welcome to youtube, most youtubers have to make stupid titles to drive clicks and engagement in order to survive. The Algorithm is a bitch. You either learn how it works, or fade in to obscurity.
Linus: "OLED's aren't that great for PC, because they will have burn-in problems."
Linus 4 days later: "OLED sponsored video - the BEST thing about PC gaming! Inky blacks, no input lag, no blurring! Buy an OLED!"
It certainly puts thins into perspective about what sponsored videos are
Gaming and workstation use will have very different effects on OLED burn in. Lots of games don’t have any static images to burn into the panel
He didn't say OLEDs were the best thing about PC gaming... You can use OLEDs for console too
@@josuelservin Not really. Even in the WAN Show clip Linus said that the burn-in wouldn't make him trade it in for anything else; that it was completely worth the improved picture quality.
imagine thinking burn in is a thing in 2021. you must be the special kind of stupid to make an oled of the last years burn in. just follow the simple oled rules and burn in doesn't exist.
Linus: "OLED's aren't that great for PC, because they will have burn-in problems."
LG: _twisting Linus' arm_ " *We'd like to sponsor you.* "
Dam dude, you have bot magnent on you
I love how Linus uploaded a video just a few days ago about the burn-in on this monitor
Ikr
Better to get ahead of the drama instead of it kicking your knees out on the ad video.
I mean, that burn-in video seemed to demonstrate that OLED displays are more likely to quickly deteriorate and burn in if you’re using it as a PC or editing monitor. Gaming and watching movies or TV seemed like less of an issue.
@Gideon October Its not a monitor, it is a TV. Gotcha.
I know the sponsor integration was the thing that made the video 'possible', but this video would've been several times better without it being interrupted by LG's talking points.
Yep, it ruined the video for me. Couldn't even watch until the end. This isn't content. It's just ads.
This video is incoherent. It's trying to be two different things.
Title: "The BEST Thing About PC Gaming"
Entire video is about a TV advertised to be used with a console...
Excuse me? Weren't we supposed to make a video on OLED burn in on PC?
You're totally right. Because burn in makes OLED completely worthless. I remember Linus shouting to the rooftops in that OLED video that nobody should ever buy it and its shit. Great take.
yes is used for static images and multi window wher eit stays the same for hours at a time. gaming is fine.
@@DocNaught You mean the same "gaming" that i know? you know the one with HUD elements that literally dont move for hours on end?
@@KaleratYT Playing COD, Souls games, racing games, Spider-man, my OLED has no trace of burn in. Static HUDS aren't a big deal for OLED burn in.
"The greatest thing about pc gaming is LG Oled tv... my bad I mean the greatest thing about pc gaming is LG's signature oled technology..." pauses goes and looks at Linus's "LG is buying off youtubers" vid. Comes back. To finish video about pc gaming. "Sorry guys, I didn't mention how much I love LG and Oleds
well oleds are actually great
30 years from now
@@sorarmojoanakket.5615 what...? I'm going to assume you're a bot and report you now, thanks
This was one of the most forced ads I've seen on this channel in a long while.
Linus: "There are certain things that age a lot worse than others"
Yup, I took that personally
I went on a diet, stopped smoking dope, cut out the drinking, stayed off
the computer and in fourteen days I lost two weeks.
Had me in the first half,ngl
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie
Had me in the second half, not gonna lie
Had me in the third half, not gonna lie
Had me in the middle, not gonna lie
I watched the entirety of this and I know that the bills have to be paid, but goddamn, it's been a loooong time since I watched a Linus video and thought it was really lame. And this one really was and I'm glad to see others pointing it out too.
Also his $2000 hp ultrabook review where he hates it but says mildly positive things about it
who cares
Man, Linus had a lot of kissing up to LG after that last video about his monitor
Very misleading title. Should have been called: Linus advertises LG OLED displays for 16 minutes.
I've known about the Linus is a shill meme for a long time and always thought it was a bit crazy. But this video is actually too much lol. Give the talking points to make money sure, but the advertisement is integrated so deeply into the video that the main point of the video is lost and unenjoyable
@@saladgreens912 Exactly, The main point isnt even actually explored upon either
It says it’s sponsored by LG in the beginning, maybe try watching the video next time instead of instantly running to the comments
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 That doesnt make his comment wrong??? The title is still misleading and clickbaity asf even if he says sponsored in video
@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 they have done sponsored videos in the past. Normally it's an ad and the beginning and end, and midway they say the talking points. In this it was talking about the topic a little, then how good this TV is, repeatedly. It wasn't just a video with a tied in sponsorship, it was just an advertisement. Honestly reminds me of that advertisement advertisement they did for e3.
Linus two days ago: "my LG OLED screens have severe burn in and arn't great for gaming as HUD will cause the same issue"
Linus today: "let's talk about how awesome LG's OLED is for gaming for an entire 16min" 😂😭
Yeah it's yeah weird, but at least he shows us the pros as well as the cons (sponsored video as well)
This is exactly what I was coming here to type up.... Except I've been gaming on my c9 just fine.. I think displaying a desktop with windows, browsers, etc are worse as using it for exclusive pc monitor.. Gaming is probably a normal use and is fine..
This is exactly the issue with OLEDs.
They are ahead of anything a LCD could ever dream of in terms of picture, response times, latency and pretty much anything.
But to make up for all its upsides that would otherwise make it the king of display technologies, they have major issues with burn in.
The only technology that can combine OLEDs performance with LCDs longevity is µLED, however that is still decades away from being mass market.
All he said was that oleds do burnout and he doesn't recommend them if you don't have the money to replace them
Linus needs to pay for new house so expect more shit of this kind.
I'm so glad this video came out after the last video, where Linus admits burn-in kills the OLED for anything other than TV purposes.
this probably was filmed before, but uploaded after. But if you're any level of tech enthusiast, you already knew OLED had issues long before LTT even touched it. same reason I never bought in to plasma personally. even though my LCD (Toshiba UX600 i think is the model #) had a fairly rudimentary first generation local dimming, it didn't suffer from burn in and I was happy with that.
Now I have a 4k LCD with a beautiful picture, even if the blacks aren't inky. I've always felt that was a little overblown tbh.
Also on PC switching to an IPS panel was the greatest ever, where I can directly see the difference to my TN panel next to it as my second monitor.
Anyone remember that time long ago where Linus said OLED sucks for PC gaming? Feels like its only been a few days...
czcams.com/video/HpdYNTcu4UM/video.html
No, he didn't. He said that burn in is a real issue for oled.
None of that is contradictory to what is said in this video, because like it or not, oleds completley destroy even the highest end LCDs in picture quality and motion clarity, which is what id talked about here.
@@yz249 OLEDs do completely destroy LED LCD displays in picture quality and color reproduction. But he made a ton of really valid points about why it maybe isn't the best for the PC. PCs have a lot of static images that can and will get burned onto the screen. Unless you enjoy the Windows logo following you across your gaming adventures, OLED is probably not ideal for a PC.
If you have money to burn and you don't mind buying a new display every couple years, then yeah, go for it. But my main LED LCD display is 11 years old this year and still looks the same as the day I bought it.
Linus: "If you were to go back and re-explore some of those older games"
I'm exploring them right now cause that's all my system can handle.
Over the last couple of years my in-game recommended settings went from Medium to Low to Text-Based.
Honestly, Cyberpunk 2077 might have been way better if it was a CYOA game. AFAIK, it's very difficult to write buggy dialogue.
Lmao
Same tbh. Used to be able to play Crysis/Warhead/2, Dota 2 and CSGO on my dual-core i5 2400m Asus laptop decently. Now, any attempt to strain the GPU will end up causing the laptop to shut off by itself.
the same here. i can only enjoy the new games through youtube videos
Currently experiencing:-
10 PRINT "MY SYSTEM IS JUNK :'-("
20 GOTO 10
The ragdoll physics that "haven't aged particularly well" in GTA IV are still miles ahead of most games today, including GTA V, actually. Euphoria/Endorphin is ridiculously impressive tech
Exactly. Linus should know better.
Max Payne 3 was it's peak. Loved the physic in that game when shooting.
It hurt me when he said that 😅 Gta4 is my go-to game when I just want to chill and have fun with physics
@@adriel68 Imagine it may have been a writer who initially wrote that, so its not just Linus, but the writer as well. Come on, not too mention it didn't look bad either.
Hi Linus, The best thing about PC gaming is the ability to buy a rediculously expensive TV that's not designed for PC gaming? :)
Lol
There's no 'e' in ridiculous.
Lmao
As others are saying, this is more an add than anything else, not to mention the fact that you guys released a video on the cons of oled not long ago... Like bruh
who cares
Was that LG's panicked sponsorship after your burn-in episode? 😂
I felt like this video might have been filmed first but released late 🤣
100%
There's no contradiction here though, is there?
And there's no way this was proposed, agreed, scripted, filmed and edited in 2 days.
2:09 linus, how could you not like gta IV's ragdoll physics?! Just look at the way NPCs wobble when you bump into them, HOW COULD YOU NOT LIKE THEM
That's what I'm saying, IV physics are so much better than V.
@@doge5603 and that's a fact
Yea it’s amazing
The real expanded and enhanced
The ragdoll physics were amazing, but the driving was dogass.
Yeah... we'll be hearing about this one on the WAN Show later this week for sure. Weird audio cuts, strange info-graphics, and not much meat to the topic of the video. Instead it's an ad for something conflicting with a previous video.
Love you LMG but yeah it's a miss.
As always, I think the team did a good job of filming and testing the TV etc, but I think something got rushed or pushed from LG, because the audio dubs / cuts are strange for LTT videos. Then pacing was also off, and the graphics describing the xbox vs pc games didn't fit with much else they've done color wise or fonts etc.
Video tag should be titled "LG makes Linus sellout for cash" "LG has linus trapped in a basement making adds" something like that
The best thing about PC gaming is an ad for a TV
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@@smagspersonthingy5977 it want me to transalte
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oh man, LG really put the screws to Linus to get that wall TV for his house
The Wall is made by Samsung
@@igauravpandey @Prathwik It's a shame to read that. I think The Wall was much better when it was an album made by Pink Floyd. ;)
Linus, or whoever reads these comments over at LMG: I like you, I like your channel. I've watched you regularly for at least six years. That being said... whoever over there manages the making of these sponsored videos needs to get better at their job. You've done so many of these pretty tone-deaf ads in the recent times. I can't even remember all of them, but this and the Nicehash are good examples. Then you get called out, and next WAN show linus is explaining and aplogizing over it. You've repeated this cycle so many times it's starting to become noticeable.
who cares
this was the longest ad i've watch in a while!
Finally something to watch while half the internet is down
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oh so its not just me lmao
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ikr I was getting super bored
Same here
same here
TIE fighter looked so good. Looks like I'm modding this weekend...
playing the villain is always more fun.
"For the glory of the Empire!"
"The best thing about PC gaming"
Me after watching the Video: OLED?!?
Linus: Don’t get an OLED!
Linus: Get an OLED!
To be fair, he said, "OLED for desktop use is probably not a good idea." Repeatedly he's said that OLED is great for non-static images, like watching movies or playing games, as long as you aren't playing the same game for hours and hours on end to burn the UI into the screen.
@@feyntmistral1110 Can't watch TV either because all channels have static logos on some corner of the screen that will get burned in
@@WinterElectro All modern high-end TV's are OLED... And you're saying not to watch TV- what they're originally made for?...
@@feyntmistral1110 I know. I love OLED. I was just joking, lol.
Does Linus think OLED burn-in potential when running all of these games with static elements is not worth mentioning? In fact, he was complaining about exactly that issue on the most recent wan show.
I understand why LG wouldn't want to advertise that -- but considering the price, it's criminal not to mention the risk.
Exactly man I'm thinking the same thing I have a Sony kdxh9005 it's more that perfect from gaming with 120hz and full array local dimming
He posted an entire video addressing it just 2 days ago. This was probably filmed before that though.
He also specifically mentioned how his living room LG oled didn't show any signs of burn in vs his desktop. This video seems seems completely consistent.
it is a risk but not a huge one for the normal guy. Most people don't play games with the same hud for hours. I myself play mostly in the 1-2h time at a time without a pause + you normal also open the ingame map/settings so the static images are refreshed every couple of minutes
He can't be risking his creditibilty for that!! Or is he
Apparently the best thing about PC gaming is having an OLED tv
I just got an LG OLED like two weeks ago, so all of these videos are so unbelievably apt I feel like life really is a simulation.
7:21 "Activate Windows"- best part of PC gaming.
I love how they can’t activate it the free way because then Microsoft would know they haven’t paid for a key 😂
They made a video about that a long time ago - czcams.com/video/M3bezYerYxQ/video.html
Linus yesterday: OLED can burn-in, don’t game on them.
Linus today: OLED is amazing for gaming plus retro games look so much better.
That's not what Linus said.
Both staments are true. He also clearly disclosed the LG sponsor...
LG was not happy
@@dylanpresidafonseca2545
That is pretty dang close to what he said. Most people aren’t really tech savvy (which is the demographic he appealed to who should think about getting one). Linus knows most people are not that, and if I remember correctly he even said as much.
LG paid and he did damage control for them, it’s rather simple.
@@brando3342 he gave a word of caution. This video was merely a massive, well paying ad that was stitched together with what was filmed of video that never got released so Linus could get a fat paycheck for his house. (I think)
Whenever I see an O-Scope I'm reminded of when I was an Aviation Electronics Tech in the Navy and one of the other techs actually bothered to read the service manual and found out there was an easter egg in the scope: Asteroids. Yes, the game.
Linus: "LG OLED panels aren't that good for PC. I'm not gonna recommend OLEDs for PCs now."
Also Linus: "Here's an advertisement for an LG OLED TV I made, for money that LG stuffed into my mouth."
Did you watch the video where he talked about the issues with OLEDs as PC monitors? All he said is that some thing are not recommended when using an oled nothing more. All he points out in that videos is simply how you have to sacrifice some things you would normally use your PC for for much superior image quality.
Umm I know this video is all about being optimistic about older games. But GTA IV is about the worst example for showing the benefits of PC gaming. It still doesn't perform well on newer PCs. It's playable, and it has some features the console versions do not have (video editor). But other than that it is still a very unoptimized port.
lmao this. i remember immediately uninstalling it because regardless of whether i maxxed out every setting or dropped them through the floor, it still ran at around 30fps
Meanwhile rockstar is too busy smoking $100 bills from the GTA5 online money to even care about GTA 4
"It still doesn't perform well on newer PCs."
That's because you're trying to run it without the necessary mods, to begin with if you run it with DXVK you will get 1080p60fps (or more depending on your hardware) locked on just about any modern gpu
Then you have create a "commandline.txt" file with the following commands:
"-norestrictions
-nomemrestrict "
This will make the game properly detect the amount of VRAM available
It's also buggy as well. I got stuck on one of the last few missions due to the framerate being too high to be able to do it. I had to artificially limit it down to 30 fps to complete it. Maybe one of the mods fixed it but it wasn't available at the time I choose to finally finish 4 (along with the dlcs) back in 2012 or 2013.
GTA 4 runs pretty smooth with some guides on steam, which u should always check out when playin an older game
Video title: PC gaming is superior
Linus: *talks about TVs for the whole video*
LTT makes the longest commercials. This one is "buy an LG monitor'
Linus, this one was a big swing 'n miss. felt like a bit on a morning TV show
"Ragdoll physics didn't age well"
Can we tell him guys????
Better ragdoll than gta 5 but worse than rdr2
😂 Only we know
@@Tharte true but you cant mix gta with rdr
(YES I KNOW ITS THE SAME BUT ONLY DEFERENCE IS THE MISSION AND THE TME)
(ALL OF THEM ARE GOOD but THEY ARE NOT COMPAREABLE TO EACH OTHER)
(I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND)
@@AMatwiszyn DONT COMPARE EACH OTHER OF THIS GAMES.
(BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT COMPAREALE TO EACH OTHER.
LIKE GTA 3
I looooved the ragdoll physics in the Minority Report game, so dumb but so fun
Love going back and playing old games in 4K. It really breathes life into them
Unless those games get higher res textures, they'll just look as bad as they used to but even worse since 4K enhances every single detail.
@@Otto45 a good game is still a good game even with poopy textures. At least it'll still have its charm but in high res :>
@@Otto45 That's not true, increasing the resolution definitely improves the image quality even with the same old textures.
I actually down sample 6K or 8K to 4K on certain older games aswell lol
I love going back and playing old games in 800x600 with 20 to 30 fps really is amazing
Great video with the classic games brought back to life. Almost made me forget about the last video about OLED burn in.
I love the “activate windows” watermark in FFV at least
Linus: "That's not the way it's supposed to be played"
Nintendo: "Exactly, see you in court"
So much praise of the OLED for gaming and not a single mention of the risk of burn in, something Linus made an entire video about just recently. By the way who's sponsoring this video? Oh. I se...
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I love this set. The plants in the background and the cottage style window are nice.
I know it's clearly stated that this is a sponsored video, but it is kind of hilarious given the fact of how recently they had a video showcasing precisely why Oleds are for people who can afford to buy a new one every year or two or if by some miracle you don't watch much static content which rules out, news, sports and gaming. Unsponsored Linus and sponsored Linus should have a chat and maybe put out a video together.
@Daniel: does unsponsored LMG content exist? I doubt it does.
I can't believe you said GTA IV's ragdoll physics haven't aged particularly well when they're literally better than GTA V's.
Linus is a Zoomer sadly. He dislikes tube monitors / tvs and only uses the newest tech but at the same time he has enough dosh to buy things he needs when no one is sponsoring it.
@@SKY11211213 It's coomer
@@SKY11211213 Well there's nothing wrong with using the newest tech, but his take on the physics in gta 4 was braindead.
For real
@@calholli The fact that he got snipped supports your statement.
"Ay we need to shill a TV that we hated on 4 days ago"
"OK just play some random games and make some dumb reactions"
Also completely lie about inherent problems with OLED tech (such as pixel response) to make it seem like a viable display technology for gaming when literally everyone that understands OLED and even yourself, say otherwise. LTT lies for money. Unsub this garbage channel.
@@evolicious No
"The Best thing about PC gaming" but all I keep hearing about is the damned TV.
x-wing alliance was such a good game. most iconic game from my childhood. i remember being devastated when one of the game cd's getting scratched, which prevented me from being able to install it again. Then steam came along.
Me: "Yeah, PC gaming is better!"
Them: "Yes, but is _your_ PC better?"
Me: _cries_
Mine absolutely is.
100% i can relate
mine's at least better than xbox 360
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This is the first time I felt like he went overboard with the sponsor. Great for an infomercial, but not quite what I want from an ltt video.
I love when he's talking to the viewers but still smashing the controller like it's a 90s movie.
“PC gaming is superior”
Me using marbles to try and entertain myself alone:
*“I know not what I am doing here but I know that I must like the video”*
@WolframaticAlpha what😂
"local dimming adds processing delay" sounds like OLED marketing BS to me.
We're talking about taking the brightness of a pixel group (so R+G+B for each pixel, literally 2xn arithmetic sums of 8bit integers, then take the mean for the group, which is just addition then division), then transforming that into a backlight brightness output by multiplying by some factor. Then just do that a few hundred or thousand more times for each local dimming zone.
Back of the napkin math for 1000 dimming zones on a 1440p display says we're talking ~10^7 simple operations per frame (if my 5am sleep deprived maths is correct), which last I checked is trivial for a modern programmable CPU (with clock frequency alone measured in GHz ie 10^9 or over 100x greater, not to mention actual operations per clock), to say nothing of the purpose-built chip on your TV motherboard.
This is a cool video but I've gotta say I'm not really a fan of the more marketing spiel style seen here and in the sprinkling of other videos like it.
ion know the fuck u said but yeah I vouch
It does, but not much. I use my PG32UQX in the slowest input lag mode for higher image quality and it is present but weak.
High end Samsung TVs totally nerf their local dimming in game mode as do most other TVs with local dimming. Many ie Sony and LG TVs use mediatek soc's that are doing alot more than just local dimming calculations and are used for price not performance.
While you're mostly onto something, soc's in displays are cost-driven not performance-driven, and during operation they're probably already using close to, if not already over 100% of processor time doing the stuff it usually does to process, post-process and then display the pic WITHOUT adding additional processing for local dimming, along with additional IO and function calls to do that, it's expensive on those processors in terms of overhead, because there's usually literally none left already. So yes I'm sure there's a few ms if not more saved by disabling local diming.
edit: i felt your last sentence more than I wish i do...
you forget the part where you have to check all the other dimming zome to get a smooth transition and avoid halo effect
I have to say, the amount of content and testing/tools used in your videos now a days is very impressive. I remember the days when you would freak out over using just one of the tools you used in this video. And now they're just a side note.
Major like for the nostalgia hit! Super Mario World and Final Fantasy Tactics! Two classic games that I still play today.
It was just a couple of days ago he was saying you shouldn't daily drive an OLED TV for gaming, now he is acting like it's the greatest in a sponsored video.
Reminds me of when they were doing a bunch of phone reviews years ago and Linus always complained about single down firing speakers but if it was a "Showcase" aka sponsored, single down firing speaker, that's no problem at all.
Wasn't the OLED Video a few days ago more about the office use, because of burn in? Light pixel areas in gaming vary from game to game, so unless you play games like forza 24/7, where you have a steady tachometer on screen it shouldn't really matter too much in gaming.
I still get your point, but if you use the screen more or less exclusively for gaming, you shouldn't really get the burn in issues, which was the main problem in the other video.
Actually to add to that: With static UI Elements like Crosshairs, and Tachometers, the Pixelshift Feature on those displays should also work better, because when you shift a big white Chrome or word window by a few pixels every so often most of the pixels still ar light and only the borders see the benefits.
When you shift the smaller UI Elements, more of the light pixels should be "destressed" more often.
LTT uses clickbait lies for money and reads off marketing material instead of giving any real evaluations. Most of what he said in this video are just straight up lies about OLED's tech that has inherent issues with pixel response. They don't deserve the subs and people need to start going elsewhere for tech evaluations.
Linus literally released a video *yesterday* telling us to at least think twice about OLED.
It's like all the people that bring up that video didn't even watch it.
OLED displays are not a great choice for professional/work use where day in and day out you'll have the exact same windows up in the exact same places.
But for gaming and general content consumption OLED displays are the best, bar-none. There is potential risk if you play one game and only one game for 1000 of hours, but for most people's mixed content consumption, they work phenomenally well.
My first game I got was Tie Fighter with my new Pentium PC as well. Even my Dad would come home at 11:30 pm from work and spend 2-3 hrs playing before went to bed, lol.
Great times back then, great times😊
"they were designed for a 27...maybe 32 inch screen"
no, they were designed for 14-21 inch screens.
in the 90's a 30 inch CRT was the equivalent of an 80 or 90 inch TV today. 14" CRTs have been replaced by 30" LCDs, 20" CRTS replaced by 40-55" LCD, and 30" CRT by 75-90"
hell, you even have an equivalent between trinitron CRTs and OLEDs. if you had a 32" trinitron CRT, you were on some king shit with the 90's equivalent of an 80 inch HDR 1000 OLED.
@Arkanrais: true. Mitsubishi MegaView Pros went up to 42" (40" viewable) and were considered "presentation" monitors. MSRP for the 42" one was something like $13,000. Still, maybe more useful than a projector of the era? They could also sync to PAL, SEACAM, NTSC, VGA, other random RGBHV signals and had resolution not too far off from 1080p, long before 1080p was an ATSC standard. Albeit, those are rarer to find than Sony PVMs, which tend to be prized, even now, among gamers.
LG: we'd rather spend money on shills than give you lifetime burn-in warranty.
ooooo sick burn!!!
lol, true that. LTT used to be a pretty nice channel. Until it got super commercial and now the videos are unwatchable. I couldn't finish this one, as it seems to be just an LG OLED ad and nothing else.
@@htpchtpc4140 like OLED.
@@Kepe I'm not sure when LMG was ever nice. I more get the sinking suspicion that I am forced to watch this drivel because I have a negative bank balance. A lot of so-called "content" on CZcams these days is paid advertisements, with other advertisements injected into it. Bad on bad.
The best gaming display 'an oled display'. I recall you posting a video last week about oled burn in? Kinda scuffed
I love linus's retro pc/game stories so much, we need more!
He must have upgraded to a P5-166Mhz right when it came out in early 1996, or he miss-remembered and had a much older setup actually from 1994, P5-75, 90, or 100
that was nearly 30 years ago so I don't blame him for some tiny details being slightly off, and technology was moving soooo fast
Easy way to get all the 1ups in that one bonus area: spinjump from the left of each block going left to right with the cape.
Now if only it was easy to fix the memory leak issues in Dragon Age: Origin, then I could mod the game without wanting to smash my pc.
There is a hacked rom, that allows it to use more than 4gb. Though I haven't seen it go above 3. Got close to 50 hours in the last few months.
Large Address Aware patch?
@@jamesscotland1240 They weren't pointing out the 32-bit issue, although that certainly can be annoying when trying to mod the game, but rather the inherent memory leaks that occur when running the game for a prolonged time.
Interesting, I have a pretty heavily modded DA:Origins install and haven't ran into crashes or anything, I've played for maybe 2-3 hours max in a single sitting. How long does it usually take for the mem-leak to cause problems.
This was one huge commercial.
best thing about pc gaming
every point is an ad for lg oled.
ngl, i'm sold. Now if only i had money.
I still have my original Tie Fighter beige box. So many memories.
Video should be titled "16 mins LG TV commercial"
Lol
Feels kinda weird to see how Linus regretted changing to an OLED because of the burnout and now comes back with a sponsored video from LGs OLED... Stating how good an option it is for retro gaming... cmon man, we know you are running a business and you have bills to pay but timing should matter at least a little. At this point it really feels like LG´s paying a premium to always be on LTTs good side
It is
I mean come on let's have some nuance here - there's a pretty stark contrast between the circumstances. Using an OLED TV for enjoying a variety games (retro or otherwise) as part of a home entertainment system entails, at least for the overwhelming majority of consumers, a very distinct set of operating conditions and wear patterns from using an OLED monitor for day to day productivity.
The video on burn-in was in the context of a year of full work-days displaying the same windows in the same configuration. Again I think it's fair to say that people putting this in their home on their wall for casual after-work gaming will probably be playing a variety of games and doing so in short intervals (relative to a work day), or watching other content.
Unless you ONLY play one game and play it day-in day-out, the pixel lifespan of this display is probably longer than the technology will be relevant.
Sponsorships take a while to result in videos, so I guess it's understandable.
Why are people failing to understand that the two videos can stand critically side-by-side.
The fact is OLED gaming looks incredible on new titles, emulation, and old titles too. You simply cannot get a better gaming experience.
However, you do need to consider the downsides of image retention and longevity.
Is it really that hard?
@@klystron2010 It is, but then again also is timing. You cant ship a video stating that OLED burnout sucks and being an early adopter, which is a debatable statement in itself as Linus has been complaining and warning about OLED burnout forever, and just a few short days later upload a new piece saying that because LG paid you now cant stop recommending OLED for retro gaming... (buuuut, you dont say a word about how fast it will be rendered unusable because the thing naturally burns down)
I just went back to the memory lane of Ultima Online and OMG! Lot of mix feelings and memories!
I have a 3440x1440p display as my main pc monitor and a LG CX oled tv in the living room connected with a long hdmi cable trugh the wall and I love it.
Come on Linus, GTA 4 still looks pretty good to this day. And that beautification project is horrible with that over the top saturation.
The Ragdoll physics haven't aged well? Dude, these ragdoll physics are the best in the franchise.
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Yeah those graphical mods just completely kill the style of the game i dont know how people can still think thats better
Linus was completely lost on his GTA 4 takes. The mod made the graphics way worse, the lightning and the reflections looks way off. Euphoria ragdolls were the best, indeed.
yeah there are way better graphics mods for gta iv
I agree, he ruined the artstyle of the game, i just replayed it with the definitive edition patch and thats the best way to play it imho, none of this nonsense, the ragdolls were always top notch in gta 4.
"PC Gaming is Superior" Tell us something everybody doesn't already know.
Nobody likes an elitist.
Wow this video made it REALLY easy to differentiate the Ads from the content...
At least that makes it easily skippable.
Now I understand why CZcams didn't show me this video and I just now noticed there was a video from 2 weeks ago that I never saw...
Thank you CZcams, i guess I should listen to you more often.
I love what you guys consider Old School. I just got Thief II running on my laptop
Linus : We're gonna play retro games.
*plays a game that brings my laptop to its knees.*
Me : Why must you hurt me in this way.
intel hd kicks in hard am i right?
I get that ads are important and I don't want to claim you're doing anything wrong by having this fully sponsored video which is in essence just an ad. I totally get it.
I usually don't mind, even when the entire premise of the video is based around some sponsorship or another. I don't know if it was just the amount of ad content or if it was because it involved breaking up the video to talk about the various virtues of the monitor that were just barely tangentially related to the main topic (playing retro games), but this just seemed like a bit much to me.
My opinion only though. If a video like this every now and then is what allows you to do the cool stuff you do, then more power to you, but I just felt the brand integration could have been handled a bit better.
For real. I definitely got that vibe here
Feels especially dishonest, uploading it a few days after the video about how his OLED monitor got some serious burn-in after just a couple months of use.
I usually dont mind but this one was more obvious than usual
Normally I'm totally fine with ads. Hell, sometimes I'm even too lazy to skip them since they are not that long, but this really felt like LG offered a ton of money and they argued against their own claims made not that long ago. Also this felt more about LG and OLED than the original topic. I think LTT can do better than that.
@@nothisistoni I don't understand why anyone would ever be fine with ads. Until everyone understands the uphill battle of anti-spam and stops metaphorically feeding the hands that bite them, the world will remain a living hell. לֹא תִשָּׂא אֶת-שֵׁם-ה' אֱלֹהֶיךָ, לַשָּׁוְא
Y'know, I enjoyed playing DA:O when it came out but part of my soul wept knowing that the LG OLED panels were years away and that I'd never experience true joy until that day came.
This makes me feel old 😁I loved Tie Fighter played it on a 486.
F.E.A.R. has an IA-enhanced texture pack available now. That's one of the great old PC games, I remember it being used as a benchmark for so long. The shooting and enviromental destruction was really top-notch back then. I believe it can look decent now, especially with reshade and the ray tracing shader.
That game was great
That GTA 4 mod, (IMO) did not make it look better at all, would much rather the OG
I makes it look unrealistic af.
Yeah theres much better mods out there
Made me cry when he mentioned GTA IV as no one remembers it my fav. game of all time. Linus you are the best!🙌
I remember when my sister got a GPU, that installed into an AGP slot...
Was amazing playing America's amy and seeing the 3D grass...
I love the new mod for Simpsons Hit & Run that combines all of the maps into a giant Springfield.
Yes sir that mod and the Donut Team as a whole are extremely underrated
And I love the fact that SHAR is so easy to run even on Windows 10
About GTA IV... Install the ICEnhancer 3.0 Natural with all other mods mentioned in the ZIP, and set the in-game Water quality to Medium or low (the reflections look better lower). This brings it more in line with GTA V.
That Psychonauts 2 sneak peak at the end was nice. I just finished playing it this week and It was a blast. I just don't feel like 100% it as I did with the first one but I do recommend playing it with your kids. There are a lot of interesting topics to explore as they ask questions if you have an open mind.
If you use your cape in the bonus room by hitting the question block by jumping left of the block (without jumping to next level), spin cape, moving from the left most block through to the right. If you do this you will always get 1ups