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    In this video I discuss my thoughts on why I believe they failed the CRM story in The Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live
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  • @michaeldouglass3503
    @michaeldouglass3503 Před 2 měsíci +130

    They had a great actor playing Beale and he barely was in the show. It felt very rushed. With the results of the World Beyond they would of had more security on the gas

    • @ichigotheg.o.a.t
      @ichigotheg.o.a.t Před 2 měsíci +12

      it wasn't for him it never was it was about Rick and michonne something that people just don't seem to understand.

    • @ichigotheg.o.a.t
      @ichigotheg.o.a.t Před 2 měsíci +16

      the crm story was told in the world beyond this is something that walking dead fans some just dont understand.

    • @kimberlywilmoth9184
      @kimberlywilmoth9184 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@ichigotheg.o.a.tthe CRM story has been in the entire TWD universe for years. WB focused on the CRM, but they didn't tell a complete CRM story. That was meant to be finished on this show.

    • @user-jy1ob6eh4v
      @user-jy1ob6eh4v Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@ichigotheg.o.a.taccept an opinion dude

    • @joshuajohnson1796
      @joshuajohnson1796 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Not to mention this wasn’t a civilian base.. this was a summit for the red stripped soldiers only so they would have no reason to lock the gas up.. these are the most trusted soldiers under Beale.

  • @shadowthehedgehog1015
    @shadowthehedgehog1015 Před 2 měsíci +9

    As a Richonne story arc, it beyond succeeded. As a CRM and TWD universe story, it failed.

  • @wesblanford3024
    @wesblanford3024 Před 2 měsíci +76

    We were robbed of a proper CRM story. No arguing that. Beale could’ve been so much greater. Walking dead always finds a way to disappoint

    • @JimmyRoche420
      @JimmyRoche420 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Agree mate

    • @jabronisauce6833
      @jabronisauce6833 Před měsícem

      I mean it has been shit for a solid decade now lmfao you’re a chump that stuck it out all you did was pay greedy overlords that ruined this show and even handed to some moronic some idiot that thinks he’s actually Rick.

  • @Ryan-mi7nu
    @Ryan-mi7nu Před 2 měsíci +22

    This was a great disappointment to me watching this happen… The CRM to me was the big bad of TWD universe. They built up this international clandestine military that could possibly be heroes or the villains of the apocalypse. This feels like what D&D did with the white walkers in Game of Thrones. We the fans thought we would some epic conclusion by bringing back all the characters fighting the CRM and restoring the world and making it better.

  • @ShaMagic
    @ShaMagic Před 2 měsíci +77

    They should've never used the CRM in a love story. You don't build the CRM up and kill them off in a mini series lol

    • @wesblanford3024
      @wesblanford3024 Před 2 měsíci +19

      Thank you! Exactly what I’ve been saying. They built them up for 6+ years then made them essentially a lower tier villain in the end. TWD way

    • @JimmyRoche420
      @JimmyRoche420 Před 2 měsíci +7

      I agree they could of used the Crm for all the main characters to fight like Daryl Negan Maggie Michoone and Rick

    • @jamesfelice9768
      @jamesfelice9768 Před 2 měsíci

      Not a mini series none of the three nee ones are

  • @HazeyInsanity
    @HazeyInsanity Před 2 měsíci +49

    The only reason to rush it this much would be if there are no plans for a season 2. The CRM had infinite potential, as a fan It is so disappointing to see them be beat this fast...

    • @riddled9655
      @riddled9655 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah and I think the actors just wanted to be done with the whole series. They have to be able to tell how bad the writing has been.

    • @user-jy1ob6eh4v
      @user-jy1ob6eh4v Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@riddled9655they wrote it

    • @Father_Daniel
      @Father_Daniel Před 2 měsíci

      You're absolutely right!

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 Před 2 měsíci +35

    The show was great, Rick and Michonne’s relationship felt intense.
    I don’t even mind that Jadis went down. I could even see that explosion damaging a lot of the front liners ranks at this summit.
    But they definitely should’ve let Beale and Thorne live to become a problem in the future. We just got to meet this guy in this show after hearing his name bounced around in the other shows.
    I really doubt Genet is gonna be more of a threat than the CRM when they barely have a working boat.

    • @ryansmith1115
      @ryansmith1115 Před 2 měsíci

      Don't think there aren't die hard Beale loyalists in the CRM that will want revenge for his death.

  • @blueeyzsue4233
    @blueeyzsue4233 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Actor Terry O'Quinn is a phenomenal actor and I wish his character lasted longer with a little bit more if his backstory. He was awesome as Lock on LOST.

  • @ian7064
    @ian7064 Před 2 měsíci +37

    I wouldn't feel as letdown by the CRM plotline if Beale hadn't been involved. If Jadis had been the primary antagonist, they could've ended her story arc and still have Gen Beale saved for a potential future storyline. For instance, they make the cascadia base Jadis' pet project while Beale is back at the CRM. When rick and michonne destroy the facility, Beale could be back at home running damage control to avoid having the CRM military power stripped away by the city. Doing it this way would've ended Jadis' arc, saved Beale for a later time, and maintained the threat of the CRM military for future use. Now that they magically became "good" overnight, who are you future antagonists?

    • @crazzycatz2074
      @crazzycatz2074 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I know right imagine they introduced beale in the ending for future stories they really messed up

    • @crazzycatz2074
      @crazzycatz2074 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Also doesn't he have a son in world beyond

    • @Father_Daniel
      @Father_Daniel Před 2 měsíci +1

      So true!

    • @ian7064
      @ian7064 Před 2 měsíci

      @@crazzycatz2074 Yeah he does. It was a weird addition

  • @brandonoltman4411
    @brandonoltman4411 Před 2 měsíci +11

    I felt like the end of this season ended the entire walking dead franchise. What’s really left going forward worth watching? We missed out the uniting of Morgan, Rick, Negan and Derral

    • @pams3423
      @pams3423 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Daryl and Carol. I'm looking forward to this. They have a bond that is unbreakable.

  • @GamersOver30
    @GamersOver30 Před 2 měsíci +8

    What a lot of people aren't taking into consideration is the fact that Beal ran a group of like 3000 radical soldiers. He even said only a small percent knew of his plans.

  • @haggishighways
    @haggishighways Před 2 měsíci +20

    Now that it's all over. It kinda feels like the writers just wanted to close off some major loose ends with a very basic ending.

    • @Reality.juiced
      @Reality.juiced Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah you can tell their heart was not in those last two episodes.

  • @Roger-il8iw
    @Roger-il8iw Před 2 měsíci +22

    I have disagreed with you on some things, but you are absolutely correct here! It’s dishonest for them to treat Beale and the crm like this after so much build up. The Beale thing is baffling. Maybe terry didn’t want to do many scenes. But he really only had 1 scene! It’s really not fair to fans. Very disrespectful to the lore.

    • @Roger-il8iw
      @Roger-il8iw Před 2 měsíci +15

      Episode 1 was by far the best. The acting, okafor and Rick, the world building. Episode 1 was a masterpiece.

  • @victoracosta5357
    @victoracosta5357 Před 2 měsíci +33

    The fact that no one’s cares about the CRM story is baffling there so much more to be told about them and yet no care about that is crazy to me smh 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

    • @michellehobson9760
      @michellehobson9760 Před 2 měsíci +9

      I actually loved the CRM story, and I don't believe that's the end of it. But this was a love story for Richonne.

    • @angelsackson
      @angelsackson Před 2 měsíci +2

      Rick tinted glasses.

  • @clandfaf
    @clandfaf Před 2 měsíci +20

    6 episodes is a joke for any series let alone a walking dead one. I’m a sucker for anything TWD and will watch anything they put out but damn they straight up sprinted past the CRM.

    • @Johnhargrove18
      @Johnhargrove18 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Yep especially 40 minutes. If they made it an hour per episode or more it woulda worked but 6 episodes was bound to fail.

  • @PRESIDENT_LEMON
    @PRESIDENT_LEMON Před 2 měsíci +3

    I had an idea, what if Pope was one of Beale's agents, hired to take out smaller communities the reapers came across that aren't worth sending out a whole fleet of helicopters after.

  • @Unclejack328
    @Unclejack328 Před 2 měsíci +2

    They built up the CRM across 3 different shows and in the end they were cardboard cut out bad guys.

  • @TheCommandostudios
    @TheCommandostudios Před 2 měsíci +11

    I disagree. This wasn’t a CRM story, this was a Rick and Michonne love story. The CRM played a big role and set up the background of the story at large. Would this series be better w 1-2 more episodes? Sure, but you can make that argument w any show, it was handled well. I feel like the CRM will come back again in the future. Amazing series imo 9/10

  • @raabm5292
    @raabm5292 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Love your channel. Been binging it like crazy! So glad I got back into TWD

  • @TheMarine316
    @TheMarine316 Před 2 měsíci +16

    I’ll be honest, I didn’t give a shit about the CRM, Rick could’ve killed them all in episode 2 & I would’ve been fine with it, their role in this story was to show us how evil they were, how they prevented Rick from getting home for years & getting defeated by Rick & Michonne.
    I’ve seen some criticize the last episode saying they rushed it but I disagree, it’s not like Rick & Michonne defeated the entire base with a pistol & a sword, they rigged hundreds of grenades to a chemical agent that took out the entire base. There’s not much else that can be done after that, Rick killing Beale after that awesome speech was epic & the music really made that scene even better.
    In the end this show did exactly what I wanted, CRM base is dead, Rick & michonne did it… which is what Jadis said they could do & they got back to their kids, perfect ending as far as I’m concerned.

    • @LiveANoursishedLife
      @LiveANoursishedLife Před 2 měsíci +5

      Finally a voice of reason! The fanfic complaints are insane to me lol. The show was fine and even if all the fanboys got what they wanted, they would still find a reason to complain.

    • @TheMarine316
      @TheMarine316 Před 2 měsíci

      @@LiveANoursishedLife 💯

    • @mystikrebel1089
      @mystikrebel1089 Před 2 měsíci

      true as to me the story is really about the zombies which were going out of focus because too much of the CRM

    • @mphomokoena2866
      @mphomokoena2866 Před 2 měsíci +2

      💯 this was the intention of the show not some full-scale CRM story

  • @ChristyYangS
    @ChristyYangS Před 2 měsíci +6

    I think they could still do an entire series on the CRM, how it was built watch Okefor bomb Atlanta, and watch Beale destroy Pittsburgh. Keep hearing about the dumbass who keeps trying to escape. I don't know if Terry O'Quinn would even want to do more than what he did in this series. In his interviews it kind of sounded like something fun to do for a bit. Not a continuing character. IMO

  • @ephemeralelement4665
    @ephemeralelement4665 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Maybe they will be exploring more in the future. It’s all about Rick putting the world back together.

  • @stealthyobserver
    @stealthyobserver Před 2 měsíci +3

    I don’t know why, but I was really bothered by Jadis’s apartment. It was a real mess, and when she had that freight car at the junkyard, it was neat as a pin. Something seemed really off.

  • @darinchilds3909
    @darinchilds3909 Před 2 měsíci +2

    You're so focused on a possible season 2 that you took season 1 for granted. My wife & I play a drinking game, "take a shot every time he mentions a second season." She's now a die-hard alcoholic (joking)...but fo' realz, the CRM is/was a backdrop; getting Rick home is THE story. We don't need a season 2.

  • @benceseger7748
    @benceseger7748 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The CRM arc was very disappointing, but I understand this story was about Rick & Michonne reuniting with the kids plus this was meant to be a 6-episode limited series. Fan theories about the CRM were so much better than what we got. If there ever was a season 2 (we waited 5-6 years for season 1, so it probably won't happen for a while) Rick could be Major General Grimes and Michonne could be Head of Council of the CRC.

  • @twohandsandaradio
    @twohandsandaradio Před 2 měsíci +34

    💯 Should have brought in Angela Kang to write. Never underestimate Gimple to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    • @ichigotheg.o.a.t
      @ichigotheg.o.a.t Před 2 měsíci +6

      the crm story was told in the world beyond this is something that walking dead fans some just dont understand.

    • @ichigotheg.o.a.t
      @ichigotheg.o.a.t Před 2 měsíci +1

      the story was about Rick and michonne it wasn't about the crm something that fans don't seem to understand.

    • @HazeyInsanity
      @HazeyInsanity Před 2 měsíci +14

      @@ichigotheg.o.a.t nobody watched that shiit ass spin off

    • @harold3165
      @harold3165 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Gimple should be in prison

    • @user-jy1ob6eh4v
      @user-jy1ob6eh4v Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ichigotheg.o.a.tbad writing

  • @zedricbangerii1839
    @zedricbangerii1839 Před 2 měsíci +24

    I'll probably be in the minority, but I genuinely couldn't care less about the CRM. I just wanted to see how Rick and Michonne's story ended. I never watched Fear and World Beyond, so I never really had an expectation or interest to learn more about the CRM.

    • @pams3423
      @pams3423 Před 2 měsíci +8

      I feel exactly the same. Everybody kept saying oh Michonne is going to die Oh Rick's going to die. I knew that wasn't going to happen. CRM was just a bump in the road. I cried when Rick met his son and saw his daughter. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen on TV. I loved episode 4. The acting was excellent. I knew once Michonne said he had a son he was going back home. Now we have Carol and Daryl to watch soon. And that dynamic is worth watching 💖

    • @blacklake3367
      @blacklake3367 Před 2 měsíci

      I’ll agree with that. Never watched those shows so idc

    • @lumensauce3199
      @lumensauce3199 Před 2 měsíci +1

      While I enjoyed Fear and World Beyond...I simply see it as Rick and Michonne throwing the proverbial "Hail Mary" (which made sense, gathering of CRM bigwigs and handy supply of inc=ndiaries in one place...they had an intelligent game plan) and poof, bye bye CRM elites. I cracked up watching Beale and the CRM troopers as walkers actually.

    • @lumensauce3199
      @lumensauce3199 Před 2 měsíci +1

      And I got kinda heartbroken when Jadis beat and killed Huck in World Beyond. Was a bit satisfying when Rick/Michonne finally ended Jadis though I felt a little sorry for her as she grinned and turned the other cheek at the final moment.

    • @pams3423
      @pams3423 Před 2 měsíci +3

      You're not in the minority. I couldn't have cared less about the CRM either. It was just a little obstacle that they had to go through. Which made their love even stronger. I just saw the episode a couple days ago where he first meets her at the gate. I think it was love at first sight 💖

  • @IAmRelXL
    @IAmRelXL Před 2 měsíci +3

    All and all, the crm just wasn't as powerful as they and/or we, thought they were. That's how simple it is. I know Beale was really hyped up, but he made mistakes plain and simple. Based on what Beale said, there's still more crm story to be told, just not with him as the center.

  • @MeandMumzyReacts
    @MeandMumzyReacts Před 2 měsíci +4

    After watching both seasons of world beyond and the ones who live, it qaa enough for me, in world beyond we met Beals Son who now be few years older which could come into contention.
    I believe this was a Rick & Michonne story, it was date for Rick being there to take CRM down and to make it better which they did, took the info to the city.
    Perfect ending, as a dad you be nervous not seeing your kid for 8 years and a kid you've never met it was done nicely

  • @deville418
    @deville418 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Im happy. I cried big tears. It was well written. So many answers to things we wondered about, years ago. No filler. I listen to you all the time. This is the one time, I agree to disagree with you. Im going back to Katies YT.

  • @scentyful
    @scentyful Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just watched "The World Beyond" which gave the back story of the CRM, and how Jadis fit into the story. Wish I had watched this first, and then "The Ones Who Live" would have made more sense to me.

  • @j.p.paulus3283
    @j.p.paulus3283 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I definitely agree with the general analysis. Beale came off as a chump == he totally trusted Rick, with little reason to do so. As you suggested, an episode on Beale could have helped...showing us how he got to his power, and especially why he would have trusted Rick. Really, all the characters we got introduced to were killed in the span of an episode's worth of time.
    Howeve,r i DID want to clarify about why the main CRM leadership was there.... i think the summit was to invade Portland. Omaha might have seemed significant because of the Campus Colony, but i think they were the weakest , and the "succesful" destruction was a test to see if they could do Portland, which might have been stronger, and perhaps have more resources. Omaha was "secret" so that Portland wouldn't find out and then resist. This meeting of CRM leaders were going to go in and take over Portland... maybe use that as their base of operations, with Phillie being their civilians who help supply Portland (but that the CRM would have a lot of resources to resist Civiv Republic civilian resistence..
    As for the CRM lack of security... I COOOOULD stretch that because they were supposedly in a "secure" area where no one was really around...certainly no significant invasion force. . No reason for them to protect the gas. (Wasn't it similar to what happened in World Beyond? I thought THAT was the gas for Portland?)
    Also, you should have also mentioned that The WOrld Beyond was essentially ignored. For example... they featured Beale's son.... Between World Beyond and this... i don't see him being an effective villain... He was good within World Beyond...but i don't see him smart enough to take over the remnant...
    A funny comedy sketch would be that the actors from World Beyond are shown to finally arrive in the area (they were headed to save Portland), and then they all choke on the gas that Michonne released
    ANd i definitely agree that more episodes were needed...but i feel like this was them pivoting from the 3 movies that were promised YEARS ago... So they SHOULD have expanded it as you suggested, but they kept the time frame they wanted.
    Sorry, one last thought... what the heck was up with Okafor and Thorne? He spent years waiting for Thorne and Rick.... he WANTED them to turn on Beale. But yet Thorne's expereince there made her MORE loyal to the CRM? Okafor was VERY selective in trying to pick the "right" people... another disappointing part of the show.

  • @barbarawalker6428
    @barbarawalker6428 Před 2 měsíci +2

    It’s a TV show with 6 episodes. AMC only gave them 6 complaints complaints. Great Job to all the people who worked on the show 👏👏👏 Hope on over to Daryl and Carol start complaining some more,or sit back enjoy the show for what it’s worth. By the way that hop😂

  • @apocolex93
    @apocolex93 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I admit I did like the finale but I’m with you on being disappointed about Beale and the CRM both ending.
    Was Beale right about there only being 14 years left? Who knows. They did hype it up for years and it feels like they went out way too quickly. But the variants are cool so maybe that will be the next big bad.

  • @titanbro1119
    @titanbro1119 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I mean we still have Mason Beale, the son of General Beale from World Beyond...could want revenge...

  • @trew86man
    @trew86man Před 2 měsíci +1

    Easily couldve been 2 seasons, first season focusing on rick and michonnes escape and the 2nd season taking down the CRM. Would have given time for a satisfying conclusion

  • @dragonmomma7145
    @dragonmomma7145 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I expected there to be more to the highly built up echelon briefing… plus they left out the whole aspect of the ‘brass’ at the meeting which could have been a whole episode on it’s own. Big let down on CRM arc it needed more.

  • @SprayPaint_
    @SprayPaint_ Před 2 měsíci +2

    Out of all the villains we had on the walking dead beale was definitely the weakest even Padre villains on fear had more story and i hated that Arc

  • @Syklicus
    @Syklicus Před 2 měsíci +1

    If they made a spin off with Okafor and General Beal at the beginning of the outbreak and gradually time jumping to towl being the end of the series that would compensate for the lack of story and be bad ass.

  • @ayumihox55
    @ayumihox55 Před 2 měsíci +2

    CRMの隊長弱すぎた。
    リックがおじいちゃんをいじめてるみたいだったわ。

  • @jessicanewberry5404
    @jessicanewberry5404 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The lady that was in CW that pretended to be the lady Eugene was speaking to on the radio, & the man that Pamela made Lance feed her walker son. I’ve heard in the past that those two could be CRM spy’s.

  • @lastrrr4134
    @lastrrr4134 Před 2 měsíci

    I largely agree with your assessment. An additional couple of episodes would have helped (it was much too rushed)
    However, my expectations going into this is that Rick/Michonne would blow up the Chlorine gas canisters, killing many of the soldiers, and thwarting their plans to attack Portland. Then Rick/Michonne would return to Philly and let the CRC know about the Beale's plans - which would lead to Beale's imprisonment along with his front liners. Then Rick/Michonne could reunite with their family.
    This would lead to future spin offs that could include the CRM.

  • @iconickjourney4039
    @iconickjourney4039 Před 2 měsíci +7

    It was evident from the start that this series was rushed, especially with the abrupt death of Okafor in the first episode. The final episode was particularly disappointing. Overall, investing six hours in this series felt like a waste, especially considering the lack of purpose beyond bringing Rick home. They should have concluded Rick's storyline earlier, perhaps at the Bridge, and focused on other spin-offs. The introduction of variant walkers was intriguing but underutilized in this spin-off. A better briefing could have emphasized the urgency of the threat posed by these variants. Instead, we were left with a lackluster explanation that failed to satisfy. In summary, this series felt pointless. On a brighter note, Daryl Dixon remains a standout series.

  • @PaulDaPig
    @PaulDaPig Před 2 měsíci

    My retinas burning to the solar eclipse would be less disappointing then this finale.

  • @PineroJ
    @PineroJ Před 2 měsíci +1

    My opinion without the comic books the writers are very underwhelming coming up with there own storyline. Gave me Fear walking dead vibes to me

  • @TheJeffdavin
    @TheJeffdavin Před 2 měsíci +2

    It was never about the crm. Why does nobody understand that?

    • @jabronisauce6833
      @jabronisauce6833 Před měsícem

      Oh Jesus shut up nobody cares about the dumb woke love story that only these two idiots can save the world like Neo and trinity in the matrix 4 with their love they’re the one type crap hahahahaha glad this franchise died years back.

  • @jordanEnigma
    @jordanEnigma Před 2 měsíci +1

    Actually now that the Civic Republic opened up they could easiely allie with the Commonwealth. That would be interesting to see. Maybe in a Season 2.....but the it is sad the CRM was ignored so much. It still has potential....

  • @Stephens-dq5bh
    @Stephens-dq5bh Před 2 měsíci +4

    It was meant to be 3 movies, and it was obviously shot as such.

    • @vladgor4099
      @vladgor4099 Před 2 měsíci

      If it was 3 movies that would be terrible tbh

    • @TheCommandostudios
      @TheCommandostudios Před 2 měsíci +2

      The 6 episodes technically make it 2.5 movies, should’ve had 1-2 more episodes but Im satisfied with what we got imo

    • @MDH2022
      @MDH2022 Před 2 měsíci

      @@TheCommandostudiosthat’s just the run time. If they were movies the story would probably have been better or worse.

    • @GrimDarkNarrator
      @GrimDarkNarrator Před 2 měsíci

      If it was 3 movies it would've sucked even more, given that half this miniseries is just melodrama between Michonne and Rick with almost nothing else happening.

  • @vampyre_with_a_suntan
    @vampyre_with_a_suntan Před 2 měsíci +1

    real talk.. and this is just my genuine assessment of the situation.
    people keep using words like "incredible", "great", "best of.." - truth is, it's cope - it's basically just to keep facts at bay.. this was decent, but also utterly middling.
    in 3-4 months people will start to be ready to assess it properly.

    • @jabronisauce6833
      @jabronisauce6833 Před měsícem

      Was a mediocre show literally mediocre bar episode 1. The walking dead fans that remained think it’s amazing because well they kept having shit shovled down their throats and they liked it hahahaha

  • @cyber_7689
    @cyber_7689 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Tbh episode 4 and 5 carried it for me. The others weren't bad but they weren't what i really wanted to see with the crm. I still think daryl is the best spinoff and by far the one im most intrested in.

  • @joeschmo3
    @joeschmo3 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I liked the show overall but CRM storyline was rushed in the end.

  • @jonathanrisen
    @jonathanrisen Před 2 měsíci

    The CRM as a whole weren’t evil, the infantry weren’t even aware of the atrocities. It was all Beale and the Frontliners. Since they needed all the Frontliners to destroy Portland, they were all accumulated at Cascadia and the explosion took out the bulk of them as they were gathered for the speech. When they took out the Frontliners, they exposed the atrocities to the CRC and lower levels (and the bulk) of the CRM, the other 13-14k infantry were untouched. Also the explosion was mostly shielded by the containers, it was more of a gas explosion than anything, to which the Frontliners weren’t shielded at all while Rick and Michonne were under cover. Cascadia was built to support the attack on Portland and to evacuate the children. They spent years planning the Portland attack.

  • @jimmyjoegarcia
    @jimmyjoegarcia Před 2 měsíci

    The crm is still operational. The helicopters in the air after rick was reunited with his kids were delivering food and supplies to other communities

  • @rossrobson91
    @rossrobson91 Před 2 měsíci

    There’s just no pleasing some people, they were made to look scary, made to look impossible to escape from, what more could you possibly want, just be grateful and happy with a great story.

  • @ne0nsunlite916
    @ne0nsunlite916 Před 2 měsíci +1

    what happened to the giant migrating horde from the first couple episodes? they never mentioned it again

  • @ajh.fitness-lifestyle
    @ajh.fitness-lifestyle Před 2 měsíci +1

    I felt the same way I was like oh damn that it I wanted more but I feel like the next villain will probably be beales son who would take revenge on Rick for killing his dad because he never understood what his dad was really doing and why, he just always thought his dad was doing good protecting the CRM when in reality they were destroying communities just to have the upper hand which his crazy and needed more CRM story of what made them big like they were

  • @Alexs.2599
    @Alexs.2599 Před 2 měsíci +7

    This series was always about Rick and Michonne for sure. But I think the dissappointment for some fans is that the CRM for years was hyped up to be this mysteries large threat that was eventually going to change the TWD Universe. That General Beele was going to play a huge role. But in one episode he was killed after just being in a few short scenes in the series. Now that the frontline elites of the CRM have been wiped out that threat is now just gone. The series was great and loved the ending but just speaking of the CRM story plot that was underwelming. A lot of fans thought that the Rick and Michonne love story was still going to be a part of the overall general CRM storyline. Instead it was just in the background. That is what some fans feel let down about, not the R & M story.

  • @shawandajenkins7127
    @shawandajenkins7127 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Mayne they feel like the world beyond and fear the dead gave enough on the crm and rick and michonne came in the end and finished the crm off !!!

  • @maskedninja6883
    @maskedninja6883 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I find it sad that the commonwealth seemed like a bigger threat and seemed much more brutal in some ways, the military and government were both corrupt in the commonwealth. The Civic Republic government was not corrupt like military was See where I’m going.

  • @fizzyizzy8261
    @fizzyizzy8261 Před 2 měsíci +1

    At last, the voice of reason. However, something tells me the CRM arc isn't over.... For me episode 1 and 2 were the best. Otherwise,TOWL was rushed and poorly written except for hitting a few notes to make Richonne fans happy.

  • @deltaproductions313
    @deltaproductions313 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think someone’s gonna make a fan edit of this show and maybe bring it down to about 2 1/2 hours maybe three and narratively be better

  • @mickaelmclean
    @mickaelmclean Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think they ruined the potential they had with both the Civic Republic Arc and Commonwealth Arc. Yes there were great episodes but the potential they had to build on communities such as Civic Republic, Commonwealth, Portland and even PADRE seemed to just be thrown away. There story telling and writing needs to improve. But this is just my opinion

    • @j.p.paulus3283
      @j.p.paulus3283 Před 2 měsíci +2

      They never really plotted out CRM or Padre.... it felt like they made it up on the fly.... Kinda like Terry Quinn's Lost.... some cool hints but the end reveal is disappointing

  • @donnymann6739
    @donnymann6739 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Jayda's telling Rick that they could do. Anything really was Daring him and he took the dair.

    • @jabronisauce6833
      @jabronisauce6833 Před měsícem

      Was a load of balls just woke idiotic writing like the matrix 4.

  • @benhomer9990
    @benhomer9990 Před 2 měsíci +4

    They did set the expectation at the start though Movieidol - it's a love story, not a CRM story. Any CRM story they did do was largely hyped up by youtubers.

  • @user-zj6mw7tz2h
    @user-zj6mw7tz2h Před 2 měsíci

    I do think a much worse version of the CRM will emerge. The finale takes me back to Rick and Co taking out the Saviors at the satellite outpost only to find out they had a much bigger problem to deal with.

  • @azizam359
    @azizam359 Před 2 měsíci +15

    They didn't fail. You just didn't pay attention to what they had been saying months before the show even aired: Richonne love story

    • @user-jy1ob6eh4v
      @user-jy1ob6eh4v Před 2 měsíci +2

      Cringe

    • @WalnutSpice
      @WalnutSpice Před 2 měsíci +2

      Ah, so they pandered to the 2013 Tumblr community that no longer exists

    • @itzblood7076
      @itzblood7076 Před 2 měsíci +4

      They did Fail. you didnt pay attention to the years of build up and hype for the CRM

    • @azizam359
      @azizam359 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@itzblood7076fandom hyped and believed whatever they wanted to believe (per usual).

    • @LiveANoursishedLife
      @LiveANoursishedLife Před 2 měsíci +4

      Oh you mean YOU actually listened to the interviews and discussions by Lincoln, Danai and Gimble about what they were looking to do for these six episodes? Some ppl or dare I say many didn't or chose to ignore what was being told and went with their own script of what the show should be. In those cases that's their own fault and no one else's.

  • @DakodaHammonds
    @DakodaHammonds Před 2 měsíci +3

    Crm isn’t over

    • @DukeJimbob
      @DukeJimbob Před 2 měsíci +2

      Right they only killed the elite squad but everyone thinks the whole military is gone

  • @lenhealy2314
    @lenhealy2314 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Honestly, most of the Beale hype came from several CZcams creators. Beale went out the way he should when coming face to face with Rick.

    • @azizam359
      @azizam359 Před 2 měsíci +5

      EXACTLY! 💯 YTrs created this fan fiction and are mad because the show didn't deliver 😅

    • @ginnysmint5217
      @ginnysmint5217 Před 2 měsíci

      💯

  • @ryansmith1115
    @ryansmith1115 Před 2 měsíci

    Dont forget the hand stamp with the letter A at Alexandria at the party

  • @sportsgamingyt6502
    @sportsgamingyt6502 Před 2 měsíci

    Plot twist Heath was one of beale’s spies

  • @ricokimbro4316
    @ricokimbro4316 Před 2 měsíci

    I think there is a French division of the CRM that’s in the daryl Dixon show. You can go from there. Or the neagan shows villains can be the next baddie? The last two shows can tie everything together . Ending in a two hour special bringing everyone together.

  • @andygold3699
    @andygold3699 Před 2 měsíci +5

    they messed up with crm story line could’ve been bigger with 2 seasons

  • @Reality.juiced
    @Reality.juiced Před 2 měsíci

    They need to let Danai write everything going forward. Then demote Gimple cuz I know he was the reason for that Love never dies business.

  • @nanirose7786
    @nanirose7786 Před 2 měsíci

    They could’ve given us way less Jadis content. We didn’t need her & Gabriel for 30 minutes just to kill her off. They should’ve rushed that part & spent more time on the CRM mission.

  • @bradyhuffman1710
    @bradyhuffman1710 Před 2 měsíci +1

    how did all the crm soldiers immediately become zombies after the explosion in the finale

    • @DukeJimbob
      @DukeJimbob Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah that was weird and how in the hell did Thorne survive the blast she was like 25 feet from Beale who was blown too bits

    • @Opachki69420
      @Opachki69420 Před 2 měsíci

      @@DukeJimbob pretty much no one should have survived the blast, but i'll chalk that up to the editing not being done right(they weren't high explosive shells they were gas so there shouldnt have been such a massive explosion)

  • @TEEANVEE
    @TEEANVEE Před 2 měsíci +5

    Real shame it kind of stains ricks final episode. Which was surprisingly very very good. One of my favorite twd episodes ever. But knowing it leads to this? Real shame on a rewatch

  • @jareddoherty4842
    @jareddoherty4842 Před 2 měsíci +1

    If season 2s opening scene is pearl thorn surviving but failing into a coma or som shi that could be somthing

  • @kylelowe4618
    @kylelowe4618 Před 2 měsíci

    So I am confused to what happened to Elizabeth Kublic? At the end of WB she got arrested by Jadis for treason and what she did to Omaha. But wasnt she directed to do that by General Beal? Why would he let her be imprisoned for carrying out his plan? If someone can explain what I am missing here that would be appreciated.

  • @poetscane8492
    @poetscane8492 Před 2 měsíci

    Even though the CRM is essentially fineto..they've got a lot of wiggle room to make some great episodes in the next Tales season.

  • @mystikrebel1089
    @mystikrebel1089 Před 2 měsíci

    i was thinking while watching the series is Beale just a front man for a more evil character or org that even connects to France

  • @MrGamer07100
    @MrGamer07100 Před 2 měsíci

    I genuinely agree how lackluster the CRM became after watching this show/season. Simply because they been building it up for such a long time. But I guess ideas have changed behind the scenes after several years of left in suspense of what new threats awaits or what have you. It’s gonna be interesting where they go from here after this seemly quick arc closer. If they continued the CRM, it’s just gonna be weird now. Forcing it back in will just be awkward. But it’s not the first time this franchise had wonky writing anyway. I really thought the CRM would be the end game. Lol

  • @dylanrawson123456789
    @dylanrawson123456789 Před 2 měsíci

    Man. Its insane. I feel like we all got robbed. 2 whole seasons on the negan arc but 6 lousy episodes after 5 years of waiting. Imo its laughable. It was a good show. Its like they dont listen to the fans

  • @lc8816
    @lc8816 Před 2 měsíci +4

    “Built it up in my head” lol not the show runners gaslighting the fans….😂😂😂😂😂

  • @donnymann6739
    @donnymann6739 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I like estivon and they really like wasted him as a character.

  • @rocm4230
    @rocm4230 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Budget. I feel like it all comes down to budget.

  • @elizabethjasper9077
    @elizabethjasper9077 Před 2 měsíci

    Sounds like how they bigged up the white walker's for an age and in one night defeated 😫

  • @lindapowers8592
    @lindapowers8592 Před 2 měsíci +57

    It wasn’t a CRM story. That was only a part of the story because they had Rick period! It was a love story about hope, family and resilience. Great family reunion 😊

    • @Stephens-dq5bh
      @Stephens-dq5bh Před 2 měsíci +8

      Well said. I'm glad someone else gets this.

    • @ichigotheg.o.a.t
      @ichigotheg.o.a.t Před 2 měsíci +2

      the crm story was told in the world beyond this is something that walking dead fans some just dont understand.

    • @ichigotheg.o.a.t
      @ichigotheg.o.a.t Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@Stephens-dq5bhthe crm story was told in the world beyond this is something that walking dead fans some just dont understand.

    • @pams3423
      @pams3423 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I couldn't have said it any better. Love conquers all 😇

    • @JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny
      @JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny Před 2 měsíci +6

      I agree with this, but the crm is a twd universe wide threat that was handled in such a small way

  • @dohcholidaycustoms642
    @dohcholidaycustoms642 Před 2 měsíci

    Im happy that i wasn't as emotionally invested as alot of other people seem to be. Cuz if i was i would be pissed instead of just disappointed.

  • @mphomokoena2866
    @mphomokoena2866 Před 2 měsíci +4

    The CRM wasn't the premise of the show though. That's why there probably won't be a second season of this. It just happened to be there as an additional element to the show. That's why they kept saying it's a love story against the odds not a CRM story come on man.

  • @ruizbrian1051
    @ruizbrian1051 Před 2 měsíci

    I didn't think Rick and his group could beat Negan but they did.

  • @timboslice980
    @timboslice980 Před 2 měsíci

    Im so glad it went the way it did. They need to consolidate as much as possible. Doma and Negan running manhattan against new babylon then the commonwealth.

  • @CrystalLakeLegacy
    @CrystalLakeLegacy Před 2 měsíci

    RANDOM PIECE OF INFO…. If u didn’t catch what jadis’ letter actually said…. It says that she traded “an injured Rick grimes “ to someone known as “the collector” in parenthesis….. and if memory serves me correctly…… we haven’t been introduced to the CRM’s “The Collector”🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

  • @robertzeigler162
    @robertzeigler162 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Plus you have to understand that Andy and Dani KEPT SAYING that this was basically going to be a love story kind of feeling kind of series and it was about michonne finding Rick and where he’s been! It was not supposed to be like an “All out war” series! That’s what you’re failing to realize too!

    • @jdgjordan
      @jdgjordan Před 2 měsíci +2

      But then why have the CRM fall in said story tho

  • @GrimShawTV
    @GrimShawTV Před 2 měsíci +1

    They didn't fail it at all. Hard disagree. I do not want long drawn out multiple season crm arks. That could have sucked for a lot of us fans

  • @lukegibson973
    @lukegibson973 Před 2 měsíci

    In a perfect world, we could've got multiple seasons of Rick and Michonne. Building up and showing more detail of the crm and their secrecy. We could've got more scenes of Beale, Okafor and the CR government. Instead, they could only give us 6 episodes of a 'love story' because, Andy and Danai don't want to commit to their characters anymore.

  • @FrightDelight1
    @FrightDelight1 Před 2 měsíci +3

    My whole thing is that not only did they have multiple years to tighten the story but they also had a whole 2 season spinoff that is almost meaningless now. They hyped up Beal for it to lead nowhere, and makes me ask the question " Why do these spinoffs matter?" aside from just watching my favorite characters survive. Hopefully they make the story matter moving forward because right now the only show that can matter in the endgame so far is the Daryl show.

  • @stupickles1
    @stupickles1 Před 2 měsíci

    The crm seemed like stalagh 13. (Hogan's heros) the last part. Yet Rick couldn't escape for years? Junior high writing. Then the reuniting with the kids? They were the cheapest to rehire. However. The very basic intent was to put a final with Rick. Which they did.

    • @jabronisauce6833
      @jabronisauce6833 Před měsícem

      Just because they did doesn’t mean shit that was a bad ending very bad also there is the fact you can’t end ricks story without Carl lmfao.

  • @wrapsnap3044
    @wrapsnap3044 Před 2 měsíci

    Rick didn't feel like rick after ep 1

  • @poetscane8492
    @poetscane8492 Před 2 měsíci

    They'd be foolish not to explore more of the 14 year or less doomsday countdown clock.
    That's a HUGE revelation.
    It can make for some interesting stories going forward.
    Then, if they throw the "Ragers" into play..it might cut that timer down to seven years..lol.

  • @gunslingerfromwish4656
    @gunslingerfromwish4656 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Rick and Michonne really used the power of friendship on this one! 🗣️