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Baalor tries out the modded character The Abyssal, and manages to eek out a win!
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In this Slay the Spire gameplay, Baalorlord does an Ascension 20 run with Champ. First, he gives tips on choosing a path and a starting bonus. Later on, he explains his decision for each card he chooses and why it's important to the build. Towards the end, he gears up for an epic Heart fight you don't want to miss. Watch till the end to see if this deck wins it all!
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I use a few mods for Slay the Spire. All of them are Quality-of-Life improvements and do not have any effect on the gameplay. Here are all of the mods I have active:
Slay the Relics Exporter, used for the live stream: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Relic Stats, to keep track of how many times the relic effects happened: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
UI Sliders, to reposition the Discard and Exhaust piles, so that they are not hidden behind the camera: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Run History Plus, giving us more info in the Run Summary screen about the run: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
Map Marks, for path highlighting - here, typically, Green means an easy, intended path, and Orange or Red means a harder path that I might take if I get good rewards: github.com/casey-c/mapmarks
Even though I do not use it, I recommend Minty Spire for people looking for various Quality-of-Life improvements: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile... - Hry
Thanks for playing the mod Baalor! Seriously a dream come true that you played it :)
If anyone wants to support the mod, giving a thumbs up in the steam workshop really helps!
Really disappointed in the "AI" art, to be honest, given all the issues surrounding not giving creators credit for the art that is scraped, and potentially even ignoring copyright. I was very interested in the mod right up until I learned about the artwork.
@@matthewhemler8747 the ethics around AI art are extremely complicated. Whether AI art is ethical in principle, whether specific implementations of it are ethical, whether it is good for society, and what is the proper ethical usage of AI art (like in a free mod from which no one is profiting), are all different and complex ethical questions. I'm glad people are talking about this, because this is new technology and we need to work out what is the ethical way to interact with it.
For my personal context, I was not aware there was even any concern around AI art when I made this mod. Someone introduced me to an AI art engine midway through development, and literally within 1 hour I started using it for all the art in the mod. I really wanted high quality art, and up until that point it was going to be prohibitively expensive or time consuming, or both, to have something that felt acceptable. I had probably already spent 40 hours on the art up to that point, and I spent another 40 hours finicking with the AI engine to get the art to where it is now.
I do believe it is important for us to work out how to ethically interact with AI art, and I also believe that (in spite of my ignorance at the time) my usage of the art has been ethical: I am not profiting off anything here, and I paid for a service which clearly stated I could use the art for commercial purposes. If that engine sourced images illegally or unethically, I was neither informed nor aware.
I have spent literally hundreds of hours of my own time working on this mod, designing it, coding it, playtesting it, re-designing, more coding, learning how to animate a static sprite image, drawing my own art, and finicking with an AI engine. As of the date of this writing, I have released 80 patches since I published the Abyssal on steam workshop. I do not benefit monetarily from any of this work in any form or fashion. I have a fulltime job, I have a family, I work in technology but I am passed the point of my career where this could be a relevant part of my resume. This project costs me a lot, and in return the only thing I get (which is more than enough from my perspective) is the satisfaction of having created something that people enjoy.
My ask to give the mod a thumbs up in Steam workshop is only because Steam will not give you a 5 star rating until you have 200+ ratings. I don't actually benefit from that in any way, but I would really love to see it get 5 stars. Anyway, I hope the world quickly works out the ethics of AI art, and I hope you all continue to enjoy my mod =)
@@matthewhemler8747 I get where you are coming from, but this instance is in my opinion a very acceptable use of AI art. It's a non profit mod for a video game, which requires dozens of different AI art pieces to complete. Either the mod creator would have to be a great artist to make the art, or an artist needs to be willing to spend dozens of hours to make art for free for the mod to do this without AI (Or the mod creator needs to be very dedicated to his passion project to be willing to spend hundreds of dollars to commission art for each card, which is unreasonable to expect to say the least).
This feels like a perfect sue case example on how "AI" art can benefit people without actually doing harm in any way.
@@matthewhemler8747you are getting mad at a dude making a FREE mod
I agree @@luka188, it's fine to use AI art here. It's just a fun mod
Grape shot would have been fine against the spikers because of the storm attribute saing that you can't take damage when playing stormed cards
44:10 is this just the "I've got a jar of dirt" joke from pirates of the carribean?
Probably.
Huge fan of the modded runs. Will give this mod a try and get up to some fishy business.
Absolutely love your videos. I'm on A20 with all characters thanks to you :D
Hope you have a great day.
Shots in the Dark's art is definitely AI generated. Notice there are two circles for the end of the gun's barrel, and also the absolute mess of the person's fingers. AI is bad at hands and also bad at counting.
All the AI art still looks dope
Attend to cache dude has like 7 fingers (@8:35) :D
It thought the other circle was a bullet
Ya, AI art is jut generally awful.
I think this is an acceptable use of ai art tbf
Lovely! Thank you! I hope to see more Abyssal runs in the future.
fun fact: Tropomyosin is the protein that is responsible to allergic reactions to eating squid
love this one so far. pretty easy to follow
LMAO the Storm mechanic is exactly the same as MtG's Storm mechanic. That's very funny.
except even better because it counts to future storm plays
1:21:25 I just realized the reverse Artifact prevented him from regaining the Strength he lost the turn before.
Now THAT's a use of the card worth its weight.
Very cool character, good to see something new.
This mod gives off big Magic The Gathering vibes, gonna check it out!
very cool please do another
Ay i got a question, why does bullet time on silent not work for eviscerate?
If you hover over the card for more than like, a second, it re updates that you haven't discarded anything and goes back to costing 3 instead of bullet time's 0
Ah yes, time to Slay the Spire to learn why Magic's measuring stick for how broken a mechanic is is called the Storm Scale. xD
Great video, interesting character!
What a cool character
I think taking apo over madness in hearth was more adventougous- all def would block for way more
Not a fan of the AI art, but the concept for the character's gameplay itself is really neat!
overall i tend to agree, i think the cartoony attend to cache style fit the best, but then it has like 3-4 different styles its throwing in with it that makes cards like shots in the dark seem like its just thrown in there last minute.
@@Chaelsonen Totally agree. I think I'd be fine with the AI art if the style was cohesive.
Very cool
nice
Hardened brine is for the predator cards!!!!
Davy Jones' Locker if you have the Blue Candle to let you play curse cards sounds insane. Pay 1 life to permanently delete a curse card. You could take almost every event that gives you a curse in exchange for an upside and then remove the curse almost immediately with minimal effort.
You still have to draw the curses, meaning your hands will be worse than average on the first run through
@@kjr4946 bricking a draw or 2 in a single combat is easily worth most of the upsides events give you in exchange for receiving a curse.
Also works with curse of the bell to permanently remove
davy jones...
Wait, both energy cost and gain went up on that upgrade.
1:32:45
Whats the point.
Synergies with energy spent in a turn
when it's burried it nets an additional energy, when it's played it does not
I personally really like the use of AI art.
Makes it much easier to have some quality visuals to pair with really cool ideas that might otherwise be overlooked because of a lack of quality visuals
Does baalor reply?
Regarding the AI art, this is among the least harmful uses of it. While it is true that AI art is trained on artists' work and scummy people will use it to put those same artists out of business, this isnt losing them business. It's really either the art is direct copyright infringment or it's AI.
As for the quality of the mod itself, I have mixed feelings. It has a lot of great ideas, but I think the execution is a bit lacking. The character is strong in the right hands, but it's also extremely punishing. I've found that it really railroads you into playing bury/dig. It doesn't feel like non-mod character mechanics, where each mechanic works on its own. Here, bury/dig forms the backbone of every deck. You can't just splash it, it's entirely how the character functions. You need to play tons of cards for every archetype, and bury/dig facilitates that. But bury/dig is extremely tedious. The bigger the deck the more cards you have to look through to pick out the right ones. Plus you have to do constant manipulation of hand, deck, and discard, multiple times per turn. Expect a 2 hour run minimum.
this mod has some really interesting concepts but the ai """"art"""" is an immediate no from me
First?🎉
Very sad to see so many anti-AI people in the comments. There’s a lot of misinformation surrounding how it works. AI models such as Stable Diffusion don’t copy and paste from already-existing artworks, they “learn” patterns. If you’ve ever downloaded a SD model, you will notice that it’s only a few gigabytes. That’s not possible if it included all the images it was trained on, it’s a lot of data regarding patterns.
The point is they "used" existing artworks as datasets to train said AI. Same argument as how in the early days of ChatGPT ppl were speculating that Github might get sued because the existing source codes in there could've been used to train the AI without the respective owners' consents. (iirc)
@@bobspotify1513 To be frank, it's clear you probably haven't thought out the implications of what you just said at all. If AI art is 'stealing' or 'wrong', then essentially any search algorithm (including the ones CZcams/Google use) are illegal. Especially Google Images, which now tries to identify similar images using AI now with Google Lens (and how do you think that works?)
So is it only 'stealing' or 'immoral' if the AI generates new content on the trained data, as opposed to just using it for other reasons (like identification?) Really, now, please think about the implications here before you condemn it for using said data.
Reasoning like this is why, every 5 years or so, some tech-illiterate boomer comes up with some new copyright law for 'protecting' creators like SOPA/PIPA, while it turns out the implications of said law involve jeopardizing sites and programs we use every single day. The difference is that now a bunch of 25-30-something tech-illiterate millennials are doing the same thing!
There's a court case now where, if ruled in favor of the plantiff, we could see Google and ALL search engines be forced to remove all scraped content (i.e., scraped text from websites, images, etc) from search results, because that'd also technically be using scraped, unauthorized data for the usage of an algorithm (and for display on a website). Genuinely, the idea of calling it 'stealing' either forces you into an insanely hawkish position, or forces you to be totally inconsistent.
So lets be real, the reason why artists dislike it is because they realize it will reduce demand for their already-precarious profession. Nothing wrong with feeling upset, worried, frustrated, angry, etc. because obviously that's terrible for them, but the 'stealing' narrative is just so totally off-base that it almost makes me lose all sympathy, because they might genuinely end up making things WAY worse for everyone else too.
@@gianni50725 i didnt say stealing or wrong anywhere in my statement lol. Also I just explained the POV of those "anti-AI" people to the person I am replying to. If you're gonna ask my opinion about it, I would say I couldn't care less. But that's easy to say when I have nothing that I have worked on that's probably used without my consent? You do know you can agree to disagree, right? You can understand these people why they would be mad while also being against it, for all reasons you have I dont really care as I have said. I use AI tools so whatever. And also with your argument about search engines scraping data lmao, I couldn't think of a more stupid take. It's like saying a phone directory is itself a violation of one's privacy just because their phone number is there
I'm still glad AI art exists.
It allows people that know nothing about art to get a decent starting platform for their concepts.
As a programmer, I can't tell you how many times my default models for testing purposes were obviously worse.
I'd agree, if the current iterations of it were in any way ethically sourced. As it is, AI art is theft, plain and simple.
I checked out the mod and its dissapointing that momst of the card art is made using midjourney. As you said, its inspired by mtg so feels like a rip off. It is not necessary as some of the beta art for the vanilla game is good without being technically demanding
Description says you mods don't affect the game. Uhhh ok?
That description is very clearly copy pasted for every video. Obviously a run using a modded characters is going to be a gameplay mod...
@@Zxv975 So, the creator is just lazy I guess then. Incorrect descriptions on videos.
@@zfighter3 are you literally just looking for things to obnoxiously point out so you can win your "technically correct" points? Modded runs use mods. Now you use your brain and do something constructive.
@@Zxv975 don't be a troglodyte. If you watch all the videos and know what's up that's cool for you. I just came across it and the description was a lie. You pointed out the creator is lazy, sorry if he's your friend. Just take a deep breath and let it be.
Not a fan of the AI art myself
Very lame to see AI art used for a mod like this
very lame to see people complaining about a free mod some dude made for fun
@@mrburnout still lame they used AI when that stuff activity steals work from artists and is not ok to use
@MaeIsOkay This is a religious statement at this point.
The mod maker is not an artist, is not spending money on, nor is he making money from this mod. The other options for the mod maker to do is either, don't make the mod or use stolen assets.
@@newironsideOr, or, or, he can draw them himself. I'd rather take stick figures than AI art any day, because stick figures require some level of effort that isn't stealing from other artists
@@newironside Or the mod maker could commission an actual artist to draw the card art for them. If you're not able to either make the art needed for a mod yourself or hire someone to do it for you, maybe just don't make the mod.
Besides half the people who play this game turn on beta art, so it's not like you need high quality art for cards as long as their fun
To all the crybabies who feel so furious about the mere mention of ai art:
AI art isnt theft, saying the opposite over and over doesnt make it true.
People will continue to use ai art as they see fit and it will become more prevalent everywhere.
And there is nothing you can do about it. You can scream, stomp your feet, gnash your teeth, argue in youtube comments, but it will do nothing.