1964 Plymouth Belvedere Revived! Poly 318 Clatters To Life (And Immediately Overheats)
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Cooling systems are extra… a lot of stuff is extra, really. On today’s episode, we revive this glorious two door post Belvedere, and assess its candidacy for a period drag car tribute build.
"Mopars don't die, they just take naps."
I would buy that shirt.
Noted!
Me too! I loved these on the road regardless of engine. Big block shiznit rules but I'd run one of these with a 225 Slant Six bored and set for max output. Lighter weight and as much hp and torque as a Small Block anything...
Let's have fun!!!!
for SURE!
That’s the car for the hemi, sleeper granny car
Man, the sound of that Mopar starter!
I always liked the look of those Plymouths too. The pushbutton trans is cool.
My father bought a 1960 Dodge Pioneer 9 pass wagon back in 1967. The car had cool styling and the dash looked like something out of jet plane or space ship. On highway trips I always sat in the third seat that faced out the back of the car. But man, did those cars rust, especially in the Northeast.
I remember in the winter of 1970 we had a snow storm. My father was backing the Dodge down our driveway, which was quite long, and as I was standing well behind the car and off to the side, I saw the whole third seat area fill with snow. It started curling into the second seat area, like a snow plow.
The wagons days were numbered and Noone was allowed into the third seat area. If I think about it, I can still smell that car's interior
Wow… that’s nuts! We just get the depressing rain type rust here, none of that horrid salt rust. The few times I’ve seen rigs like that, I have been shocked.
I love those 62-64 Belvedere's. not only do they make good drag cars but they make REALLY cool Restomods. One of the guys I went to high school with in the late 80's has one that was his first car and still has it. When the Covid Dempanic hit he pulled it in his shop and started stripping it down so he could rebuild it into a Restomod weekend fun car. He rebuilt the 318, rebuilt an auto trans and rear end from a 72 Dart, and then he started on the interior, he found a set of buckets out of a 81 Plymouth Horizon/Dodge Omni and the center console out of a mid 90's Plymouth Sundance, he put a set 15" laker syle wheels on it and repainted it the Summit Racing Indian Bronze with all new with tan interior, that car is absolutely gorgeous.
My 69 Roadrunner was one of those cars with the nice pair of sneakers in the trunk. Originally a vinyl roof car, need I say more. Today, you would never know it ever had one. It's an interesting car and loaded with options. I could probably write a short book about it
Very cool old Belvedere! I had a 65 once, and have had 3 66's but the 64 is one cool drag race machine!👍 great video! Thanks for sharing!
I had a '65 Belvedere hardtop with the 318. To this day one of my favorite cars.
Nicely done my friend. 318 Polys never die!
They just take naps! Haha.
The "318" Poly was A GREAT MOTOR! POWER, GREAT GAS MILEAGE, REALIBILITY!
@@johnmaki3046I absolutely agree. I have one in my 63 Dodge 440 four door sedan and I absolutely love it.
Man oh man, those 318 polys are indestructible! My next project may have to have one under the hood.
I want one running in something again! I have a poly core and a car hauler project coming up, but I did just score a Cummins engine… so that’s probably the better move.
These were AWSOME motors in AWESOME bodies/chassis! THE BEST CARS!
Bought a 64 Belvedere 2 dr in 1972 for $200. It had 100k miles, ran great but was starting to rust. By 170k it was a real rust bucket but was reliable and ran like a champ. The 318 poly engine was heavy and not powerful, but it was smooth as silk and made plenty of torque. Performance was adequate and it never let me down. The pushbutton transmission was cool in my opinion.
Just found this video and your channel, just started watching and already impressed. My buddies mom had the almost exact twin to this car. She pulled up to the station next door to where I worked one day with that car. She asked the attendant, another of my lifelong buddies to check her car out. She said it had just started running rough. I could hear it across the alley just barely droning along and missing consistently. I was walking towards their service bay when he came thru the door to come get me for some reason. He was grinning from ear to ear holding the dipstick up to show me. The stick had oil all the way to the top… of the stick itself. We walked in the shop so he could show me oil running out of the valve cover, he reached thru the window, hit the key and it still fired right off and idled. I have absolutely no idea how it wasn’t locked up solid but the damn thing ran, it missed like hell but it really ran. He later told me how many gallons of oil he drained but it’s been so long I can’t remember. Before sending her on her way she got an education about the dipstick and marks and their meaning. I’m my other buddies defense he had been on midnights at the coal mine for what seemed like forever so she didn’t want to bother him although he made it a point to go see her anytime he could to mow and take care of the place after his dad had passed. The car was garage kept and only left the garage for church or the grocery store or possibly the sears and roebuck occasionally. He still has his hemi 41 Willy’s and awesome mopar collection including moms car. Since seeing this video it reminded me of a poly 318 that grandad gave me with the boat torque converter drive from his drag boat, starting to think I should check it out for the 29 Plymouth I’ve been trying to figure out a power plant for.
You just gained another subscriber, I’m already stoked about the channel.
Wow. That’s amazing… the poly is truly an excellent engine. I love ‘em. I’ve got one core here I hope to do something with eventually. Thanks for the sub! Glad you like my stuff. I’m working on more videos as we speak!
My first car was a 65 Polara 383. It was out of tune and got 5-7 mph around town. You never forget your first ride.
Sure like the looks of that 64 Plymouth ❤
Same engine in my 66 fury I took out of the woods at 14. Replaced some bent push Rods and a carb and he's a happy little 4 door
The MoPars of the 60s WERE AWESOME! Even with the "small block 318", they were QUALITY RIDES!
2-door could go either a drag car or hemi sleeper; that is a tough one. Hemi-sleeper!
The savoy had no trim it was the base model, belvedere was a step up
Ahhh yeah, how could I forget about the Savoy? I’m a little more familiar with the next generation, when Savoy went away and they had Belvedere I and II.
My first car was a 64 Plymouth Savoy with the poly 318. It would float the valves in high gear, which made me quite popular with Ontario Provincial Police!
I love these ! 🎉
it started, wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pure gold. Best drag car platform.
Nope the old 318's don't die.. My Dad had a 66 Coronet. Sold it to my best friend in 75 who promptly showed it no mercy. Long story short. It sat in my Dad's garage from 78 to 82. I hauled it home got the carb freed up dumped in some gas, and fired it right up!
Yes, actually it did have the poly 318 engine. I also recall both front fenders rotted out over the headlights. My father bought a fiberglass repair kit at Sears. You know the type with straps of woven fiberglass material and the 2 part resin. Wasn't pretty but it worked.
Just… wow.
Just bought a 63 Belvedere post car!!! Love the early Plymouths. Mines gettting a roots blown 440.
That’s awesome! I really, really want to do a blown big block in something. If operation Hemi doesn’t happen, the ‘64 would be a great candidate…
That's a cool ride, I would love to have it cause most of em back in the 70s was most usually on a drag track and street cause back then we had several places to drag race on the roads up the ol coal holler I grew up in lol..I honestly seen only one with a slant 6cylinder that was so surprising with how well it ran although he installed the engine himself cause that's all he had..He done a few things to the engine and changed the gears to 4.56 gears and that car flipped so many people out cause he had quiet exhaust on it lol..I preferred quiet over loud unless I's running open headers
Just found your channel with this video, very entertaining you got yourself a new subscriber! :)
Way cool, nice; thanks for the vid!
Thank you for the fun videos! Oh and TURBO!!!
NO TURBO, PLEASE!
I (dirt track) raced a '63 Dodge "330" 2 dr. (with a "383" underhood!) THIS WAS A SCREAMER!
That’s awesome!
@@DeadDodgeGarage I LOVED this GREAT race car! I wish I could have had the talent to win with it! The POWER ("383 Commando") was WITH ME, though!
@@DeadDodgeGarage I bought this racing car from a GREAT friend (r.i.p. "Little Joe" Laznick!) for NEXT to FREE! The suspension was NASCAR PAVED TRACK READY! This sorta RUINED a DIRT-TRACK DEMON!
Hey I also race dirt track with a 66 Plymouth Fury with a 383 Magnum great race car
not that it changes you're life but i had 61 belvedere. fun fact, a 57 DeSoto leaf spring fits the Plymouth. i drove it for 3 years on 7 cyls. my friend whom had a richer family put a giant wedge in his.
DO THIS CAR UP'
COOL!! video. It would be great to see you do something with the old Belvedere. There something cool about that body style I like.
Lots of hay bales needed on that test track out in the field aka portable universal brakes
Big time! We’ve got a good few tires around too so that will help
Ya, that was the norm when I was growing up just outside of Boston. I've owned a few cars that when I opened the trunk and looked down, I found a nice pair of sneakers. Unfortunatly U Unfortunately, I was wearing them at the time
😅
My face hurts from laughing, this is internet-gold! Even if this Belvedere BEGS for a Hemi (if you hold your breath during the video, you can hear its muffled wisper "hhhHHEEEEEMMIIiii"), I think I'd give it new floors first :P
But where will the stray cats poop if I fix the floor?!
Ok no you’re right. Thanks for watching. Haha.
@@DeadDodgeGarage You know, there’s a problem for every solution 😅
Tin (to this day) is CHEAP and EASY to install! I have accomplished this "feat" on MANY older vehicles! There ARE many "hemi-alternatives" (cheaper, EVEN BETTER) out there, you know!
I have a 318 poly in my chrysler windsor 49! Love it! And iiim a bit jealuos.... 😂
And yes- dragcar ,poly or hemi dosent matter! And a battery
A very large displacement Max Wedge with cross ram.
Yes!!
HEMI. The first year they were built was 1964 which would make this a perfect car.
Also DONT RUN WITHOUT COOLANT PLEASE!! Good way to WRECK what could otherwise become a viable project!!!
It’s fine - for a minute.
I do think the 64 would be perfect for operation hemi with maybe those badass stack injection
Fix that red Fury!!!
64 Belvedere post sedan car had 1426 4-speed 410 rear axle ratio with fenderwell headers it was a bad son of a gun for a street wedge
That sounds like an amazing car to me…
My connection to Aberdeen includes a 1967 (or so) Belvedere II that my grandma bought new and drove until 1984. I wonder what happened to that car. Do you know that place in Aberdeen called Zelasko Park? It's named after her uncle. There used to be a lot of Polish-speaking Zelaskos in Aberdeen, back when the sawmills and paper mills dominated the town. When my a for mentioned grandmother went to college at University of Washington, the only way to get to Olympia was by train. I think there were some poorly-maintained dirt roads, but the railroad was the only easy way to get to Olympia.
Weren't the early Roadrunners made on the Belvedere platform?
Wow. Yes, I drive by Zelasko park every day! That’s so cool. . Ok, so… what color was that Belvedere II? This is important, because I bought a Belvedere II in Chehalis that originally came from Aberdeen. My friend Dave now has it in Vancouver. Yes, the Roadrunner is based on the Belvedere body. I’m big on the sheet metal and the basic car, so in my eyes Belvedere / Satellite / Roadrunner / GTX are just kinda the same thing. But the Roadrunner is the darling. Haha.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Her Belvedere was light cream colored (I forget the exact color) and it had no radio. She was such a miser that she did not even want to pay for the am radio! I changed the plugs and adjusted the timing on it once. I heard later that she took it to her mechanic because she did not trust me. I can't blame her.
Wow. Haha. The one I bought was dark red. There is a cream colored ‘66 convertible around here somewhere too. I have most of the resident Mopars cataloged, as I’m sure you can imagine.
If you're interested, I have some pictures of a friend's 68 Camaro convertible that you won't believe. Let me know
Did it have a Poly under the hood, or what? Haha. Ah, I saw your other comment, so I’m assuming this was an impressive rust situation.
A good pressure wash and that thing would be Like brand used!
Well you ought to see the video where I pressure wash all of the ‘64s then!
@@DeadDodgeGarage FOUND IT!!
What about the '69 Plymouth fury beside it? Is that one drivable? 🤔
No, but it’s an original cop car!
The reason the driverside cowl rust out drain hole tooling at the factory on driverside broke and they kept running cowls and never fixed them
I’ve never heard that! Very interesting.
Just found an all original 69 Coronet 440 4dr with 18,000 original mi in excellent cond sitting outside in the mountains of Idaho....not sure what to do with her
Drive it? Haha.
Lmho , well it’s running & driving lol
Jamie, is that early poly 318 considered a big block? Of course the later LA 318 is a small block. Right?🤔
No, it is not a big block. As far as the important internal dimensions (by which big blocks and small blocks are generally separated,) it is the same as an LA 318, putting it squarely in small block territory. However, because of the head design, it is physically quite wide, and because of the casting techniques in use at the time of its inception, it is quite heavy. The Poly hails from a time when big and small blocks weren’t a thing yet, so it’s kind of hard to classify. But by weight, length, bore center, and bore and stroke, it is smaller than any big block.
I bought a 64 sport Fury 2 days ago. Similar condition but I'd say mine is worse. Big block Hurst 4 speed. 383??
Sounds like a party!
Had a 66 coronet with a poly 318 it did whatever was asked of it
Oh yeah. The Poly is great.
Cool
Do you still have this car and like yourself I like the poly something unique and cool they are only 30 lbs heavier than la
Tom still has it. He has tried to sell it and has found no takers. That means it’s still available for my future ideas. Haha.
@DeadDodgeGarage cool I look forward to that pity I wasn't a whole lot closer we could have done a deal for one of my Plymouth here in nz stuff is hard to find and very expensive getting from us I bought 2 sets of frost plugs for my 318 and 313 polys $170 nz with exchange rate and shipping price mounts up fast
I had a four-door Belvidere 64 what's a Polly 318 in it and that was a beastly son of a bitch rode like a Cadillac but had more ass in it than the Kardashians it would pass everything but a gas station
Since you had a small nozzle squeeze bottle, why didnt you use it to shoot gas down the carb bowl vent to fill the bowl with gas. I gaurantee it will start better with gas coming out the jets rather than just pouring a large slug of gas down the throat of the carb!
Gas doesn’t come out of the jets during idling. It does come through the idle passageways, which are often clogged in carbs that have been sitting for decades. Also, I pre-fill the bowls like that all the time. If I didn’t in this video, I probably didn’t film it. And finally… no. When they’ve been sitting forever, a humongous squirt of gas is exactly what they need. I usually don’t use enough.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Went to school (tech college) and have been a mechanic since 1972. Since the vast majority of the people who will be watching your post are not, i would hope you would show ALL steps or others might not think of them, such as adding coolant to the empty radiator. And yes, i realize it takes a goodly amount of gas to get it going, but using a gas can to pour an unregulated amount into the carb could lead to disaster for some newby. I knew a person who suffered severe burns to face, arms, and burned a good car down,(tho he was having someone crank it, and it backfired up the carb) On a final note, i enjoyed the vid and love the name of your post/shop? Save all the old MOPARS you can!!!
Too bad the old girl wasn't a hardtop. She'd be beautiful to go with the attitude!
I like the utilitarian look of these - and I like the square roofline more than the curvy ‘64 hard top. We actually got a hard top from the same place. That one is long gone, but this poor duck is still sitting in the back row…
@@DeadDodgeGaragebeauty is in the eye of the beholder, not that the sedans were ugly by any means. I liked the hardtops because I had a '65 Belvedere hardtop.
@@adotintheshark4848 Oh yeah. I'd love a '65 Belvedere - or a Coronet.
Hi. How much does such a car cost? Greetings from Poland..
It’s listed for sale currently for $2000 US. Unfortunately it doesn’t have a title, and I can only assume that would be a problem for you to ship and import it.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I have a 5.2 Magnum engine with a Speedmaster intake and a Holley 600 carburetor, so the car can be without an engine. It is important that he has documents. The import is carried out by a company from Poland.
Dodge Dart is also a good choice...@@DeadDodgeGarage
cool vid....i am getting a 64 belvedere back on the road that was my dads car when i was a little kid...it sat for roughly 50 years....the old 318 poly runs good....check out my vids
The "318 Poly" was a GREAT MOTOR! The "273-variant" was also very good! These were Chryslers' "GLORY DAYS"!
Hmmmm. That hemi deserves better.
It could be better eventually… but it definitely isn’t better currently…
HEMI IT!!!!
Is it for sale
Absolutely. Haha. Located in western Washington. No title. If interested email your info to jamienoise@gmail.com
Dont "drag"all these beautifull old cars!
When it starts to cough you need to feather the throttle. So frustrating to watch.
Thanks, I’ve only done this fucking a lot.
I love your program, but the amount of advertising is making it unwhatchable , the same way vice grip garage went ! 🇬🇧😩
I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Yours is actually the very first comment on advertising I have had, so I appreciate the feedback. Unfortunately, if I want to build up a budget to do projects and keep the channel going, I do have to monetize any videos that have a chance of getting a ton of views. Personally, I got so sick of the repeated ads on long videos a couple years ago that I subscribed to CZcams Premium. It’s cheap, and for someone that watches as much as I do, it’s money well spent. My apologies again.
I did actually leave billboards and window ads on for this video as a test. I usually have video ads only - which I personally prefer.
As long as you’re getting the dosh 👍🏻,keep up the great work 🫶🏻🇬🇧
I have a premium account for $11 per month. Never seen an ad for years.
i’ll take a BBC over a Slopar
Cute! You can have them then. If I wanted to do hot rodding on easy mode, I’d build Chevys too.
@@DeadDodgeGarage oh, thanks I wouldn’t own Dodge if you gave it to me. I’ve owned a few dodges and not impressed.