How to Perform Faster Pistol Reloads. Slide Lock or Emergency Reload and the Speed Reload.
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- One way to speed up pistol reloads is by driving the elbow down. It minimizes excessive movement and places the pistol in a repeatable spot for faster reloads. Plus, the method of how reloading in one's "workspace" is wrong. And my thoughts on why I think the loss of gross motor skills argument (resulting in one needing to manipulate the slide with hand vs. using slide release) is way over blown and flawed.
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In training, the "surprise slide lock" is the real test, since everyone is lightning fast when you know when the gun is going to go empty. Have a buddy partial load your mags, and run a timer, and when you go empty, do you pause and look at the pistol or automatically react and conduct an emergency reload. Now toss in a dummy round some where in the magazine and see how the student reacts, talk about a lot of fun. Great video.
Yes I think at some point, everybody needs to practice with dummy rounds, getting surprised jams or gun going empty with unknown round counts in the magazine. That's how you build a solid foundation.
Oh wow that's useful sir! As always great video! Hope for future videos about other weapons u used when u were Green Beret.
Awful nice of you to give us normies the right-handed version :D Thanks boss!
I really like your videos on this stuff. I started doing pistol matches in late 2001 or early 2002 (can't remember which) and shortly afterward got into 3 Gun too. In 2008 I took my first classes, two carbine and one pistol. I got taught the "workspace reload" and the "gross motor skill" thing too. By 2012 I'd taken more classes (this was the height of my "training junkie" phase) and got back into competition, mostly 3 Gun, which I still do.
I abandoned racking the slide after every reload and quickly learned that hitting the slide release is perfectly doable, at least for me. I do occasional classes where some people and some pistols have issues with the slide release. I teach racking and the slide release and then tell the student to choose whatever seems to work best for them.
The elbow index thing is something that I do too and thanks to my anthropometry (like that $5 word? It means "study of the size of body parts in relation to the size of other body parts") it doesn't require me to bend my elbow much at all. My arms are long but my forearms are longer than they should be and my upper arms shorter, so I get the benefit of the elbow/torso index with minimal movement of my hands. I wasn't taught this, I just optimized my technique through dry fire and competition. In other training that I've taken I've found that I can just bend my gun hand's elbow more to revert to the "workspace" and keep the muzzle up around teammates.
I've seen a lot of other "advanced techniques" that I kinda figured out just by competing enough; another example is "anticipatory reset" or resetting the trigger to the breaking point while recovering from recoil of the previous shot. Nobody taught me that, I just started doing it as I got better. Now I see people doing videos on it and teaching it in classes. I think it's great that the next generation will have the stuff that we had to figure out over years and years as a starting point. Imagine how well they're going to shoot when they're our age!
So we started shooting matches around the same time and you highlighted a little secret that instructors don't like to admit.... You can learn almost just as much sometimes even more by shooting matches as you can taking classes.
@@ModernTacticalShooting agreed, though I'm an advocate of both!
I'll definitely give it the old college try
Do it!
Thanks for sharing those MOLLE adaptor plates. That is literally exactly what I need.
Glad to help
Thanks so much for showing us the "roll and pinch" method, being a lefty, I hardly ever get to use the slide stop, unless its a Modern HK, Gen 5 Glock or Beretta APX.
The thought process behind the small details, amazing
3:50 - 4:30 Delighted to notice I have done this in a similar way since the beginning. BTW, elbow resting on mid-section plus index finger touching the front bottom of the grip can help a lot in a pretty dark environment, based on my dry fire experience.
Not gonna lie, I miss the garage. That said sound quality is improved and during winter I bet the indoor room is superior 👍
The 'popping the elbow' movement reminds me of one type of AK reload I've seen used by some former spetznaz guys from Center-T. Thanks for sharing your insight; very useful information.
Paul Castle would be proud
I like your technique! That problem with G series gun...is partially solveable with an extended slide release. That's a real shortcoming of a stock G in my opinion when compared to other flavors. Refinement and no compromise, oh that's a different kind of gun. Kein Kompromess
Makes sense, thank you sir.
Thank you for showing your reload technique. I was taught by one of your fellow SF brethren bringing the weapon to your face reload. I think we are all victims of the Army does this way so it must be the most efficient. Sort of how we are train to keep the rifle on the low ready or dominating in a room. We aren't asking why are these methods utilized and in what context. Your channel is opening up my eye and changing my preconceived notion of techniques show to me. Keep up the good work!
Glad you find it helpful
Wow! This "elbow-pop" thing is a revelation. Of course some of us have an additional advantage insofar as our elbows don't have to travel so far before reaching our midsections.
Seriously folks my tactical performance belly is strictly to get my mags 6 inches closer to my weapon, for faster reloads☝️
11:02 Thank you. Such a silly argument about fine motor skills. As you pointed out, sight alignment and trigger squeeze seem to fit into the same category and those never get mentioned.
I do a similar reload myself but bring the pistol back to eye level.
That way my press out is essentially the same as pressing from retention. But arm length and other factors play a part here.
Dude is way quicker than he looks. Nice video, good stuff.
well done
Such good content. More people need to watch this channel
THANK YOU!
Very helpful. Thank you
Nice video bro..
I've always used my support thumb to send the slide home so I can do it the exact same no matter if I'm shooting P320 X5 LEGION , Shadow Systems or 1911 / 2011.
I've never played any attention to where my elbow actually ends up until now. I do stop my elbow when it hits my side or if I'm wearing my MICRO chest rig it hits mag pouch . My X5 most of the time sends the slide home when I insert the mag ..
Yesterday, I shot a 'combat-style' stage for the first time in several years, though I have put in a lot of range time and LOTS of practice reloading at home. I honestly don't remember the details of my reloads, so obviously I didn't bobble the process and got right back to shooting! I've never been a fan of the close-in 'workspace' hold, because I don't want ANYTHING between my eyes and a potential adversary.
Good advice… I will practice
You’re gonna get a lot of hate for this video brother, but you’re right. Been saying this for years as well. Of course, I’m just a former action guy (insert acronym) so I have no dog in the fight. 😂
Oh I'm used to haters..Lucky for me I can outshoot most of them!
I have been blindly using this for years with my 1911 and my P226 for years. Yes this is very efficient indeed. It was by body mechanics of loading faster and trying to engage more targets during drills and competitions. I started doing this back in the early 1990s when I started doing Practical Pistol Competition. Back then we had some IPSC shooters come in and shoot and I saw how they reloaded very quickly with their 1911 race guns with Hewleg Holsters. In Practical Pistol shooting back then was all shooters could not see the set up of the targets as not to game the system of engagement. The IPSC shooters would piss and bitch about it. Our equipment were either concealed carry mode or duty belt. Just practical everyday stuff not made for competition speed shooting.
But the garage was my favorite part!
Me too!
Gonna try this next time out, thanks Mr G
WHEN I DRAW MY WEAPON, I DRAW A MAGS FROM THE MAG POUCH AT THE SAME TIME AND HOLD THE MAG BETWEEN MY FINGERS TO GET A GRIP ON THE GUN TO CONTROL FIRE . SINCE THE MAG IS ALREADY IN YOUR HAND, YOU CAN INSERT A FRESH MAG AS SOON AS THE EMPTY ONE LEAVES THE MAG WELL. SOME OF MY MAGS HAVE EXTENDED TOES ,SO I KNOW WHICH DIRECTION THEY NEED TO BE INSERTED AND SOME HAVE PADS ON THE BASE , I ALSO HAVE A BEVELED MAG WELL ON MY WEAPON .
Unknown to the CZcams idiots. Enjoy it while it lasts. Love you bro.
Taan Sao reload (from Wing Chun)
Excellent!
What type of batteries do you recommend for flashlights, nvg, radio etc? Rechargable lithium or non-rechargable lithium?
Greetings from Norway!
Well I go for non-rechargeable lithium.
Lots of high quality manufacturers offer “dual fuel” options as well.
I personally prefer rechargeable just because you can use solar, gas, etc. to juice your batteries.
Depends on the battery too though because rechargeable CR123s are dog poop compared to 18350 or 18650s.
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Jeff, you get the support thumb to the slidelock method from Larry Vickers?? He recommends that for the 1911. I always used that method when I carried a 1911 on duty.
Might u make video(s) about ya preferred headsets?
This is how I do it. I distrust most of the gun community to actually have thought through techniques and understand why they are done. Too much inertia
Woody really needs to put gravel down on bay 11 and 12
Yes
Was at the range today, I tried this and what I found was, if I give the mag a good tap the slide closed on its own. This seemed to make it faster. Thoughts?
Really helpful video, my training with pistols is quite mediocre. Also I had to double take at that AK in the background is that a Zastava M90? Mine looks identical, it's actually uncanny, TDI arms lower handguard, "cheese grater" upper, Magpul stock, only difference is I put a Hogue pistol grip on it for the steeper grip angle. Either way, great taste in rifles!
Yes M90, I own two!
@@ModernTacticalShooting Very nice! The M90 is my favorite rifle I own, I found your other videos about it as well. I'm really curious what you used as the cover for your Mlok rail? I tried magpul rail covers and couldn't get them to fit properly on the TDI arms lower handguard.
Shame about the damage caused by the ALG trigger, it's one reason I kept my trigger stock, then again I don't compete with mine (yet) just make sure to pick up a spare bolt carrier for it because of the rocky political issues in Serbia/Kosovo. Without the ALG it should a lifetime. With a stock trigger it's my go-to shtf rifle.
can you please tell us your thoughts on the Glock 23.5 ?
Jeff, you know man I cannot express how much I appreciate all of your insights especially when I started my block 2 semi clone (added a few of my own ideas like an A5, law folder, and better optics). One question I have that I cannot fine anywhere is how heavy was a fully kitted M4A1 block 2 fully kitted with a Vcog, suppressor, light, laser and full mag. For the life of me I cannot find this data anywhere. I’ll I can find is the carbine being 7.5 lbs. Well my build is almost 14 when I have my coupled mags fully loaded put in her. Unloaded she is 12 lbs. I’m looking to get a trijicon sco, and a sandman s next month with my bonus and I’m scratching my head wondering how I’ll be able to wield it. She is very well balanced as opposed to my 15 lbs savage model 10 New York City swat clone which is ungodly front heavy. I’ve hunted with that gun several times and I could barley get a decent shot standing. Once I lay down I could give a gnat a a circumcision with that sucker at 300 yards but not standing. My question is, do sof units really carry this heavy of an M4?!?! It’s totally doable for a few hours and I was shocked when the scale said what it did, maybe the gym paid off? I don’t know but I do know this rifle is a TANK! And durability comes with a price I’m willing to pay. Any Insight into how heavy your build was would really help me understand whether or not I’m going overboard. I know this is subjective but just dying to know how it was for y’all. Thanks man, have a great weekend and thank you for providing such great info and history to us plebs with day jobs.
My M4 with vcog suppressor and la5 laser was just over 11 pounds. The average SF guy did not tote around a heavy M4 rifle hence why the Mk 18 was so popular in Afghanistan being shorter and a little lighter than a normal M4
@@ModernTacticalShooting thank you so much brother, couldn’t find that number anywhere
I have shot idpa for a long time and shoot polymers. I want to try the 1911/2011 platform but don't have big hands. My hands are somewhere in the middle.I have issues reaching mag release and the slide stop on these guns and i always find myself really shifting it in my hands.Would ypu recommended dropping the slide with my support hand?. The mag release i may just get an extended bit the slidestop is a pain!.I just don't have large thumbs.Let me know what you think, i appreciate it!.
I drop slide with support hand, the glock lever is pretty small. It took about 2 months of dry fire to teach myself to do that over using my firing hand thumb. Sometimes I switch back to firing hand thumb out of instinct which yes, I have to break my grip a little.
Appreciate the video, great points made! I did have a question though, after your shooting volley is complete how come you retract the pistol? Theres many other instructors who advocate keeping the firearm pointed in general direction or threat and continuing to scan/assess.
Thanks
It just seems like an unnecessary movement, if you had to re-engage a threat you now have to press out and reacquire sight picture etc...
Could be a competition thing though?
Good question..During my follow through I observed Good Hits on target, why play range theatrics and scan for nothing. Having been in real gun fights you will naturally be focused on the threat and you will stay engaged until the threat visibly goes down it is a subconscious reaction. Therefore I know I don't need to pretend on the flat range
But what if your thumb doesn’t reach mag release
Support hand thumb is what I use.
@@ModernTacticalShooting You make it look easy. Will try, thank you!!
I like these simple little tricks that I've never seen anyone else throw out there like you do. The simple one of stock length on my ar was great and now this? I am going to steal some of your fire though.
I just put up my give send go for the dry firing gun part for ar's that I need help with. If this is a problem, let me know and I'll delete it. Just asking for help where I can and with whom I can.
I have the design to basically remove your carrier group from your rifle and replace it with mine to replicate full action with your AR for dry fire training. Hear me out for a second over at "give send go" under "The Cairar" or G9TAC.
what pistol magazine kydex pouch you used?
Both Raven and Bravo Concealemnt
@@ModernTacticalShootingBravo Concealment is what I trust! Just a dumb Jarhead GWOT veteran...
I thougt I have to put my gun in to work space. After saw this video? I changed my mind.
Yes work space is drivel
So why not strip the mag as you're going for the fresh one? What am I missing here? Is it simply a time thing? I believe that would be more reliable... Not a challenge or dumb ass question. A genuine concern.
It's faster to go for fresh mag first
Stopping to strip mag while not long does take time.
John 3:16
This is still "workspace"
Or just take cover and give yourself all the time you need to reload. Just sayin.
I think he is making something out of nothing. The workspace is not right up in your face. That's not taught, not natural, and would be a very unusual location for a reload even for beginners. The pistol is out in front of you so that you can look through the pistol and to see what's in front of you.
Trust me Ive seen years of pistol brought into face reloads, particularly in the Army
All the "shorts" are really starting to suck, adios.
How to attach pistol mag pouch to a belt which doesn't have any molle webbing on it?
Adaptors work both ways, use adaptor onto Bladetech Teklok clip
Try Velcro Onewrap as well. Not as durable long term but easy to swap
Good video!