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  • In this tierlist, I rank several of the common reactions taught in introductory organic chemistry!
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  • @martinowton7210
    @martinowton7210 Před rokem +379

    In 40 yrs of synthetic chemistry I have never used oxymercuration

    • @lefthandedspanner
      @lefthandedspanner Před rokem +20

      I've used it exactly once, in the second year of undergraduate labs, along with hydroboration/oxidation - they were two parts of the same experiment, to demonstrate how regioselectivity can be controlled

    • @peters1711
      @peters1711 Před rokem +1

      @@lefthandedspanner during my second year in undergraduate labs in organic chemistry we had never used the oxymercuration reaction. Hydroboration/oxidation yes.

    • @lefthandedspanner
      @lefthandedspanner Před rokem +6

      @@peters1711 it was nearly 20 years ago, I don't know if they'd still do it these days

    • @singularityJoe
      @singularityJoe Před rokem +3

      One of the only ways for shape selective alkene differentiation. We considered using it to functionalize a 1,1 disub alkene in the presence of a 1,2 disub olefin

    • @thisiswhereidied3054
      @thisiswhereidied3054 Před rokem +2

      I never in my 80 years of life used this reaction. I might be a machine engineer but still, never used it!

  • @Valdagast
    @Valdagast Před rokem +279

    Carrot-mediated reduction is S-tier. At least.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +78

      C-tier for carrot

    • @aqdrobert
      @aqdrobert Před rokem +5

      When Judy Hopps, Lola Bunny, and Thumper took chemistry.

    • @limmuquan4796
      @limmuquan4796 Před rokem +2

      It takes very long though

    • @thecarrotindustry7521
      @thecarrotindustry7521 Před rokem +7

      @@That_Chemist Carrots improve eyesight, S-Tier for sight.
      Stay rooted, my friends!

  • @Twadeps
    @Twadeps Před rokem +48

    I was nodding my head multiple times throughout this video. It's funny how religiously I studied some of these mechanisms only to never use them in the lab. Reductive amination is also an easy S-tier for me, although I learned about it quite late in my studies.

  • @andrewjin6618
    @andrewjin6618 Před rokem +19

    Funny story about ozonolysis. One of the PI's at my school had to do an ozonolysis when in grad school, but in the second step, conversion to of the ozonide was too slow, so he had a lot of ozonide build up in his flask. Eventually the flask exploded and shot glass shards into his hands and he was out of lab for 6 weeks. When he came back, the first reaction he had to run was the same ozonolysis reaction.

    • @joshp6061
      @joshp6061 Před rokem +3

      “Oh my god are you ok?! Welcome back I hope you’re feeling better after that horrible reaction, we never should have asked you to do it. Ok let’s start you off this time around with another ozonalysos for S&G”

  • @HiwasseeRiver
    @HiwasseeRiver Před rokem +109

    As a Chem. Engr I have to pick this group of rxns as the most useful: hydrogenation / dehydrogenation / isomerization and polymerization. It's not uncommon to see these all at one plant or within a organic product ecosystem. I know these are mundane to the modern chemist, but these rnxs pay the bills I say, typing on a keyboard made of polystyrene.

    • @sharpfang
      @sharpfang Před rokem +33

      Not a bad take, but hey, nobody rates bread and water as top gourmet dish, even though they've been staple of nutrition for past couple millennia.

    • @HiwasseeRiver
      @HiwasseeRiver Před rokem +14

      @@sharpfang The title said "Useful" even that's subjective depending on ones needs. I'm very oriented to C4 molecules. Just realized I left out cracking dammit.

    • @barnicskobalazs
      @barnicskobalazs Před rokem +2

      As a (hopefully soon to be) organic chemist, I loved learning about cracking. So many cool ideas like size exclusion and catalysts (?) if I recall.

    • @Stripping_Bolts
      @Stripping_Bolts Před rokem

      What about saponification?

    • @joshp6061
      @joshp6061 Před rokem

      @@Stripping_Bolts I learned that in gen chem lol

  • @UpTheIrons199214
    @UpTheIrons199214 Před rokem +44

    As someone studying solid-state Diels-Alder reactions in my PhD program, I'm a little hurt that Diels-Alder was put into B tier, put I'll get over it.

    • @Sac_the_king
      @Sac_the_king Před rokem

      Solid-state Diels-Alder, you say? Count this idiot intrigued

  • @janmelantu7490
    @janmelantu7490 Před rokem +18

    “Oxymercuration” has to be one of the most cursed names for a chemical reaction

  • @rspeks9461
    @rspeks9461 Před rokem +56

    My college teacher gave us this A3 sheet that has all of the reactions on it, like how to get from an aldehyde to an ester, an alkene to a haloalkane, and along each reaction there's the conditions and reagents needed, as well as the name of the mechanism. Really helpful

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +34

      Yeah having a flow chart like that is super useful; if I ever take a month off of CZcams, I would like to spend some time making resources like that

    • @rspeks9461
      @rspeks9461 Před rokem +5

      @@That_Chemist That would really be cool

    • @_callmechase
      @_callmechase Před rokem +4

      Duuuuude my tutor suggested we draw one from scratch to study for our exam and it was the most helpful thing ever, especially since drawing it really cements it into ur memory

    • @rspeks9461
      @rspeks9461 Před rokem +1

      @@_callmechase ooh gonna have to give that a go

    • @TheTKPizza
      @TheTKPizza Před rokem +2

      That is just a great idea, gonna do that right now, got my OC exam next week.

  • @csebeschen
    @csebeschen Před rokem +31

    I totally agree with you about the Birch reduction ! This reaction was a key step in my bachelor thesis for the Synthesis of a highly oxidized ring system, at least that was the plan, but in the end everything was just garbage. Working with liquid ammonia is definitely no fun and to this day one of the worst smells I know. We stored the condensed ammonia in a Schlenk flask in a refrigerator (where it remains to this day, one power outage away from disaster) and each addition of ammonia had to be carefully planned each time (transport from refrigerator to fume hood, bring to Schlenk line and quickly add to already chilled down solution, then quickly back to refrigerator). In addition, we didn't have a glovebox, so had to use sodium instead of lithium, and in the end none of this worked and my products even rearomatized 😐

  • @trumanrudloff6776
    @trumanrudloff6776 Před rokem +15

    Nice to know my favorite reaction (🅱ignards) (which is unequivocally the best reaction because it’s easy and the one I actually remember) is easy S-Tier. I may suggest next time putting Grignard in G(od) tier?

  • @uiucchemistry2664
    @uiucchemistry2664 Před rokem +25

    This will be interesting since not every undergrad learns the same reaction when taking organic chemistry as class! Will be curious to see how this goes!

  • @sadia6503
    @sadia6503 Před rokem +15

    I think I'm the undergrad Ochem student you speak of since I just finished off ochem 2 this summer. I love this list, it's giving me a lot of context for the reactions I learned and it's funny seeing which ones aren't as used

  • @At0mix
    @At0mix Před rokem +60

    Putting Birch reduction into E-tier is probably accurate, but it does sting a bit. Was always my favorite reaction, because what's more metal (heh) than doing a reduction with solvated electrons? "You want electrons? Oh I'll give you some fucking electrons, allright!" It's the most sledgehammer approach imaginable, but somehow it works.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +23

      Solvated electrons are pretty rad , ngl

    • @barnicskobalazs
      @barnicskobalazs Před rokem +9

      And it's blue 😯

    • @minklmank
      @minklmank Před rokem +2

      It looks gorgeous - I really gotta admit that

    • @davidli6931
      @davidli6931 Před rokem

      Using sodium to do reduction is far more useful for inorganic chemistry to achieve zerovalent or even lower oxidation state, like forcing chromium/molybdenum/tungsten to go to a -II (d8) or even -IV (d10) oxidation state. Organic substrates usually don't require such harsh reduction conditions.

    • @minklmank
      @minklmank Před rokem

      @@davidli6931 highly depends on the element in my opinion. I am sure it works great for the elements you mentioned - I really love chromium, tungsten, manganese, molybdenum, you name it chemistry but for example the group 13 elements like aluminum are insanely convenient to just prepare as metal organic Al(III) Complexes with a single hydrogen attached an then just force a reductive elimination to Al(I) , vacuum pump the side product off, or wash it off and be done.
      My personal favorite though is to use vacuum evaporation and recondensation with a suitable solvent at low temperature to get M(0) Complexes without the need to do any in situ reduction. Can be done with basically the entire d block and if you're just going for the "low melting ones" up until iron, nickel or vanadium you can use a dirt cheap resistively heated crucible setup. Gotta love the 60s

  • @ratmix8238
    @ratmix8238 Před rokem +2

    always a great feeling to to see a new video, keep up the great work!

  • @colombanoalessandro
    @colombanoalessandro Před rokem +2

    Excellent video!! I wish I had seen this when I started my PhD! I learnt the harsh as I’m sure happened to most people. It’s just so funny when junior people join the lab and feel confident they remember all the reactions learned in class, only to find out that lab routine is a different planet 😂😂

  • @ae5704
    @ae5704 Před rokem +3

    Awesome video! And some nice reminders of rxns as I go into 2nd yr! Thanks!

  • @sleepysakamoto
    @sleepysakamoto Před rokem +9

    Dear diary, today someone more experienced than I discredited all my knowledge in OChem. It's the second time it happens.

  • @6alecapristrudel
    @6alecapristrudel Před rokem +5

    Fischer S-tierification. Come on, it was right there! lol

  • @chemistryofquestionablequa6252

    I think your videos and explosions&fire are the videos I look forward to the most.

  • @alextaunton3099
    @alextaunton3099 Před rokem +3

    I loved this video. Both entertaining and informative

  • @Virtuous_Rogue
    @Virtuous_Rogue Před rokem +1

    That was super informative, thanks! A few of those reactions were new to me but one of the comments mentioned that different universities have different lists of reactions they teach so it makes sense. We got the Heck reaction and Suzuki reaction emphasized but I think that's because the Prof was a metal catalyst researcher.
    Follow-up idea for you, rank reactions/mechanisms purely by how cool or cursed the curved arrow diagram looks.

    • @joshp6061
      @joshp6061 Před rokem

      Those two as well as stille coupling and sonogashira I learned were extremely important. But that wasn’t OChem it was inorganic

  • @defenestrated23
    @defenestrated23 Před rokem +3

    Honorable mention for Vilsmeier-Haack reaction. Not super common, but it's often astoundingly selective, readily goes to >98% conversion with high yield, and the activated reagent is a beautiful bright canary yellow (sorry E&W!). I give it A or B tier.
    Also not really undergrad, but if you were going by medchem reactions, Suzuki coupling is an easy S (for Suzuki). We used that constantly in our lab.

  • @the_kingslayer
    @the_kingslayer Před rokem

    Yay I got here early!! 🥳🥳 Great tier list as always!!

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 Před rokem +1

    There was a Quantum Leap episode that touched on commercial versus DIY reagants.

  • @lexinwonderland5741
    @lexinwonderland5741 Před rokem +27

    "I expect this episode to be really polarizing" wise thing to say after ranking haloform F tier to start the video. Sadly, I agree, and haloform is still in my top 5 favorite :( even though it's not useful, it's wonderful. I'll probably drop more comments thruout the video but I couldn't help but comment this lol.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +7

      :)

    • @barnicskobalazs
      @barnicskobalazs Před rokem +6

      I mean, yeah, haloform is pretty cool, but is it 'C-H activation by Pd(II)' level of cool? But then again, I'm a sucker for those 'unexpectedly' sick 6 membered transition states.

    • @jeremymcadams7743
      @jeremymcadams7743 Před rokem +2

      @@barnicskobalazs no but hear me out. Simultaneous generation of a disulfide and carboxylate group in 1 pot. Is it totally not worth it for potential side reactions? Almost certainly. But is it nice to see multiple transformations in 1 reaction? For me it is

    • @barnicskobalazs
      @barnicskobalazs Před rokem +2

      For context, this is what I'm talking about (excuse my scuffed drawing).
      pasteboard.co/6aHpukqjHMe5.jpg
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      Hexagons are the bestagons.

    • @lexinwonderland5741
      @lexinwonderland5741 Před rokem

      Can't say I disagree with any of yall folk about your cool reactions. They are, indeed, bitchin'. I just have a special place in my heart for making chloroform out of bleach and acetone as a young undergrad haha I'll never forget the day I did my demo and the professors face sunk as I explained "no, I need ANOTHER halo-org waste container." lol

  • @hello-rq8kf
    @hello-rq8kf Před rokem +3

    perfect timing, just starting with reactions in OChem 1
    rest in peace my free time

  • @barnicskobalazs
    @barnicskobalazs Před rokem +1

    I wish I saw this video at the start of my undergrad, but to be fair, the depth at which each of them were taught to me highly correlates with their ranking. The main outlier being Fischer esterification, but that's understandable since in undergrad org chem the emphasis was bigger on understanding mechanisms in early years when we learned about Fischer, and the practical side got more attention in the later years when we learned about more recent chemistry like cross couplings.

  • @davidreznick9902
    @davidreznick9902 Před rokem +2

    I dunno about B being generous, I remember doing some fairly cool chemistry using diels-alder reactions as an undergrad. This was not just in o-chem lab but also undergrad research, such as using diynes or cyclopentadienone derivatives.

  • @stephenjacks8196
    @stephenjacks8196 Před rokem +1

    Osmium Tetroxide is used for electron microscope contrast agent. Other agents have been tried like ChloroPlatinate or Tungstic acid (but heavier atoms like Lead, Bi not used).

  • @JohnWL
    @JohnWL Před rokem +2

    In the beginning of my PhD I actually used OsO4-dihydroxylation a decent amount. Reaction works great. I had a bottle of corn oil (unsaturated fatty acids) in my hood to use as a "stain" for active OsO4. It would turn black if active OsO4 was still around. I always got questions on why I had corn oil in my hood lol.

  • @lefthandedspanner
    @lefthandedspanner Před rokem +6

    for dihydroxylation, the Prévost-Woodward reaction is a much more practical and less toxic alternative; plus, you can selectively produce the syn or the anti diol by varying the reactants
    in my third year of undergrad labs I did a Sharpless asymmetric dihydroxylation, using an AD mix and a 1% solution of OsO4, with N-morpholine oxide as the stoichiometric oxidant - that step worked, but I ultimately wound up with the wrong molecule

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +1

      Yeah - it’s common enough, but I don’t know any zealots for it

    • @barnicskobalazs
      @barnicskobalazs Před rokem

      Who in their right mind give OsO4 to undergrads? I mean, I know I was among the more lab savvy ones but I wouldn't have trusted myself with it back then, let alone some people I know (and like). But to be fair, the GTAs did a good job of overseeing the riskier experiments (like the n-BuLi reduction).

    • @lefthandedspanner
      @lefthandedspanner Před rokem

      @@barnicskobalazs at my university, anyone who survived to the third year had gone through two years of 9-5 Monday-Friday lectures and labs, which weeded out all but the most committed students, and the third year marked the point that the workload became truly insane; in the same year, undergraduates had the option to do a low-temperature Wittig reaction and Ziegler-Natta polymerisation (with trimethyl aluminium as an initiator) in the labs

    • @barnicskobalazs
      @barnicskobalazs Před rokem

      @@lefthandedspanner pretty hardcore. here we had some BSc students (mainly from asia and middle east) who were a. sponsored by a company or b. pressured by their parents; to do a degree at a good western university and their competence/determination often reflected that lack of internal drive. a minority to be sure but not negligible. in addition to that, covid restrictions cut our our lab practice in half. for context, we lost 30% of students after the 1st year and 10% after the 2nd. interestingly, i found later years easier but that was due to the fact that i could not take early report writing exercises seriously.

  • @azureotter2559
    @azureotter2559 Před rokem

    As someone who understands nothing of chemistry, YET, the big words made me happy to listen to.

  • @adrianhenle
    @adrianhenle Před rokem +3

    Williamson ether synthesis. I worked at a company where one of the people in charge of ordering materials was... let's say a little slow at her job. I needed dibenzyl ether, was tired of waiting for it, and had benzyl bromide and benzyl alcohol on hand...

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem

      Did it work well?

    • @adrianhenle
      @adrianhenle Před rokem

      @@That_Chemist Yup! IIRC I ran it in refluxing toluene w/ Hünig's base. Workup by aq. bicarb wash & rotovap; purified by vac transfer (>50 °C bp difference between product and anything else). Yield/purity were good, and I had enough DBE to last me until the order from Sigma finally came in.

    • @adrianhenle
      @adrianhenle Před rokem

      Of course, this might be the most facile example ever for this reaction. Nice reactive halide, no real plausible side reactions, massive boiling point change...

  • @lorenzolafayettequadri5275

    Reach me out if you’d like to make an industrial pharmaceutical version of this tier list. I’ve several years of plant experience working on CDMO projects. I think it would be cool to compare lab and industry (both western and chinese/indian)!! Hope to hear from you!

  • @Earthdemon1
    @Earthdemon1 Před 6 měsíci

    It's weird watching this video, since I only just started my undergrad studies at 26, at my local community college. But this got me really excited to learn as much as I can, and even though I'm only about to start Gen Chem I in less than a week, I'll bookmark this. That way, I can look back a few years from now and understand all of it!

  • @sebastianmolas9347
    @sebastianmolas9347 Před rokem

    We need part 2! Please

  • @GerinoMorn
    @GerinoMorn Před rokem +3

    The more I learn about chemistry the more it looks to me like a spicy variant of software development - making physical things do actions exactly as we want, and not in any other perfectly valid and legal ways :D

  • @user-ko7lz3kr1d
    @user-ko7lz3kr1d Před rokem +2

    I don't agree with everything but I do agree with most of S tier. I would put LAH and Fischer Esterification in A tier, as I just don't think they stack up to the other contenders. I think Diels Alder could also go into A tier just for the historical factor and the swag factor. Everyone loves a good Diels Alder.

  • @robertlapointe4093
    @robertlapointe4093 Před rokem +2

    As an inorganic chemist, I find that many of these reactions are the antithesis of useful, turning desired products into tar and easily removed side products into separation challenges. For example, I spent a couple of years in grad school trying to make high valent transition metal complexes of the bulky alkoxide tri(tert-butyl)methoxide, which always barfed up the metalate and the tri(tert-butyl)carbenium, which Wagner-Meerweined to tar. And current work involves acetaldehyde as a byproduct, which would be easy to separate, but it aldol condenses to crotonaldehyde under the reaction conditions, which requires fairly sophisticated distillation to remove from the desired products. I've also been bitten by Friedel-Crafts reactions before, with expensive aromatic ligands turning into triarylcarbeniums when trying to make transition metal complexes in chloroform (did make some amazing deep purple solutions though, so it wasn't a total loss).
    The haloform reaction is a great way to get rid of bromine. Just rinse out your excess bromine with acetone into an Erlenmeyer, place it in the back of a hood and wait for the Foomp. (The reaction is autocatalytic in HBr, so there is a bit of an induction period before it runs away.) First time was an accident, next couple of times was curiosity.
    How could you have left out free radical halogenation? From an organic synthesis standpoint it is not used much currently, but it is still the basis for many industrial processes and the early chapters of many an organic chem textbook.

    • @NewWesternFront
      @NewWesternFront Před rokem

      good catch. im still just a student but radically halogenating an alkane is the beginning of many of our synthesis questions. would have been cool to see it ranked (even if low)

  • @minklmank
    @minklmank Před rokem +1

    Happy to see that we agree on the grignard being S tier - i am an inorganic / metal organic Chemist, grignard are our go-to universal transmetalation reagent, you can basically transmetalate onto any transition metal if you just turn the damn thing into a grignard
    Personal favorite reaction has to be the "nazarov cyclization reaction" though - absolutely Niche, D tier at best but if you are in that niche of cyclopentadiene chemistry it's a divine gift that makes your life so much easier
    Personal favorite odd reaction: Duff-Reaction - for what it is, for, the amount of side products and the absolutely horrendously bad atom economics of that madness - it just works way too well

  • @foxyfoxington2651
    @foxyfoxington2651 Před rokem +2

    Thumbnails with dogs are always S-Tier.

  • @robertotomasini2072
    @robertotomasini2072 Před rokem

    In 3d printing, chloroform is very useful to glue pla, but it is difficult to acquire.
    For me haloform reaction is the most used one (I don't work as a chemist despite having a master degree in chemistry).
    For clarification: I am an analytical chemist. I work on instruments, from maintenance to ex novo construction.

  • @simunator
    @simunator Před rokem +1

    out of all the stem disciplines, you chemists are truly an extradimensional asset in the scientific community.

  • @josephwilliams5292
    @josephwilliams5292 Před rokem +1

    Glad to see the only ones I actually remembered are S-tier

  • @BrianOSheaPlus
    @BrianOSheaPlus Před rokem

    This is a great video! I'm surprised that sodium borohydride reduction of carbonyls wasn't included though.

  • @1brytol
    @1brytol Před rokem +17

    Grignard is so important, it is literally the first orgo reaction taught in Polish highschools

    • @barnicskobalazs
      @barnicskobalazs Před rokem +5

      A bit hardcore for high school, but its cannot be overstated nonetheless.

    • @limmuquan4796
      @limmuquan4796 Před rokem +3

      high schools? damn

    • @lefthandedspanner
      @lefthandedspanner Před rokem +3

      that's some quality education right there

    • @1brytol
      @1brytol Před rokem

      @@barnicskobalazs wouldn't say so. The mechanism is simple af, it is extrmely useful etc. I would say only reaction easier to learn is SN2 substitution

  • @JohnWL
    @JohnWL Před rokem

    You should do this tier list for reactions in general. Or just your top 10 reactions.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +1

      I will do another one if ppl are interested

  • @niconeuman
    @niconeuman Před rokem +1

    I've been told that Fischer esterification can be improved by refluxing and adding a desiccant in a trap on top of the flask so that the refluxing solvent gets dehydrated and comes back. I do not know the name of the glass equipment for doing that. Someone in my lab raised the yields to 90 percent doing that.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +1

      A Dean stark trap

    • @niconeuman
      @niconeuman Před rokem

      @@That_Chemist This wasn't a Dean Stark, although it can probably be used. It was a an adapter, on top of the rbf, with a big filter paper wrap of sodium sulfate. The solvent (methanol in this case), would reflux into the adapter, get dried by the Na2SO4, and fall back to the rbf. I haven't tested it myself but apparently it increased the yields of ester considerably. Neither the person who suggested this nor me are proper organic chemists, just people who do "some" organic chemistry, as part of our jobs.

  • @angelina-po7hq
    @angelina-po7hq Před rokem +2

    right off the bat with the haloform reaction, we were told it was an extremely useful reaction as my professor said any reaction where we can add or remove carbon-carbon bonds is useful for synthesis, I feel lied to

  • @robotbanana4261
    @robotbanana4261 Před rokem

    I fucking love these videos

  • @HUNHali
    @HUNHali Před rokem +4

    Just recently found the channel, and I'm always fascinated by the way synthetic chemists know all these organic reactions. I've been a chemical engineering student for 5 years now, but I always had a hard time understanding and learning organic, so after the exams I basically forgot everyting. No wonder I became an analytical chemist at last, I am more interested in measurement methodology and statistics, as well as the engineering side of things, than actual chemistry. Which is weird, because some part of me always wanted to have at least a decent organic chem knowledge, but unfortunately it's just not for me. Really weird example, but I sometimes think about that should a huge environmental disaster happen and our toolbox reduces to pots and fire, as a chemical engineer I would be expected to mix up some Aspirin, but all I would say is 'where is my HPLC'? :)
    Interested to hear you guys' thoughts on this, is it okay to forget about organic chemistry as and analytical chemist, or is organic a must for chemical engineers?

    • @Virtuous_Rogue
      @Virtuous_Rogue Před rokem +1

      I did chemical engineering too. I enjoyed O-Chem but hated bench work so the more computational side of things is better for me. I don't have much industry experience but it seems to me like the chemical mechanism stuff gets covered by a PhD chemist and the engineer's job is to scale it with max yield.

    • @joshp6061
      @joshp6061 Před rokem

      @@Virtuous_Rogue oh yeah of course, it’s (chemical) Engineering. Chemistry is a after thought you’re really just an engineer with a background in chemistry sufficient enough to understand and apply classical engineering to scale fundamental chemistry into industrial

    • @cyan_oxy6734
      @cyan_oxy6734 Před rokem

      Man I'm 100% the reverse. Loved chemistry but doing maths feels like a chore. Just thinking about physical chemistry makes me want to get drunk.
      This made me quit my studies as I was basically studying physics with some chemistry fun facts attached.

  • @SR-mz8nn
    @SR-mz8nn Před rokem

    When you said diels-alder, my beginner trauma re-emerged from my soul. That was something I haven’t thought about in FOREVER.

  • @erwintatp
    @erwintatp Před rokem

    9:50 My professor told me that decades ago they were required to write applications for OsO4 experiments. The chemistry department would then inform all labs on their floor, as well as floors above and below them. If they didn’t infrom, all these labs would know right away because of the stench.

  • @lefthandedspanner
    @lefthandedspanner Před rokem +2

    there are also less hazardous ways to reduce carboxylic acids than LAH - borane, or Red-Al if you've got C=C double bonds in the molecule
    plus, many acids can be converted to acid chlorides using cyanuric chloride, which is a much less offensive reagent than thionyl chloride or oxalyl chloride

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +1

      Red-Al is totally under-taught; vitride is an amazing reducing agent

  • @AmaroqStarwind
    @AmaroqStarwind Před rokem

    You should look at Superatoms, like Super Halogens.
    Also, you should talk about chemicals that can't exist when they theoretically should, such as Ammonium Hypochlorite, and anything that's a Perfluorate salt.

  • @TheMightyOmega-NotTheAlpha

    All these icky messy organic reactions with their weird names is why I became a physical chemist specializing in NMR of complex mixtures. You orgo guys can’t live without my giant magnets to sort your crap out🙃🤪😵‍💫

  • @stephenjacks8196
    @stephenjacks8196 Před rokem +1

    Re Hydroboration there’s a big difference between BH3 etherate and 9-BBN.

  • @jakx2ob
    @jakx2ob Před rokem +2

    Forgot the most useful, the Maillard reaction 🤤

  • @francovlla
    @francovlla Před rokem +6

    I know I didn’t bust my butt in ochem for most of these reactions to be rated below B tier im going to flip a lab table
    Edit: nvm at least the Wittig rxn was s tier i always loved that reaction

  • @elnombre91
    @elnombre91 Před rokem +1

    I've run a lot of catalytic hydrogenations on the hundred gram to kilogram scale. Definitely based chemistry.
    Also, imagine that drake meme but with the Swern oxidation being bad and the Parikh-Doering oxidation being good.
    One final point, I performed a Friedel-Crafts acylation of benzene on a decent scale in industry. The reaction worked fairly well but I was left with a brown sludge containing my product. Dealing with all the aluminium chloride was awful. Useful chemistry, but absolutely not a fan of doing it in practice.

  • @Ensavier
    @Ensavier Před rokem

    You should do a tier list of something like most terrifying chemotherapy drugs.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +1

      I’m working on a chemo drug on atm - it’s probably a cursed structure one

  • @AlsoDave
    @AlsoDave Před rokem +1

    Maillard reaction for sure

  • @lefthandedspanner
    @lefthandedspanner Před rokem +2

    ozonolysis is used to make azelaic acid (an anti-acne treatment), by cleaving the double bond in oleic acid, which comes from vegetable oil

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem

      That name sounds way cooler than it’s structure is

    • @lefthandedspanner
      @lefthandedspanner Před rokem

      ​@@That_Chemist and no bugger I know can pronounce it properly; it's "azeh-lay-ick acid" not "azee-lick acid"

    • @monarchatto6095
      @monarchatto6095 Před rokem

      @@That_Chemist a lot of dicarboxylic acids are tbh

  • @peters1711
    @peters1711 Před rokem

    I would miss some important c-c bojne coupling reactions like Heck/Suzuki-coupling reactions. Or some more example of Methathese reactions beside Wittig. Maybe do another Video for such reactions.

  • @C4pungMaster
    @C4pungMaster Před rokem

    Hmm even though i have limited experience in org synth, i would disagree with diels-alder position in the tier list. I thought i have really prominent use in synthetic organic chemistry, especially in building really wacky scaffolds of phytochem/marine chem.
    Yes the endo/exo mixture could be a problem but picking the right condition and/or right building blocks will generate better access to some really complex multicyclic molecules

  • @purplealice
    @purplealice Před rokem +1

    Based on what I know now, I should have majored in chemistry in college - I was math-impaired enough not to be able to succeed as a physics major. I probably might have succeeded as a pyrotechnic chemist, or a food chemist (I cook a whole lot).

  • @tahallium
    @tahallium Před rokem +6

    Haloform! Not useful? 😭

  • @ninag8588
    @ninag8588 Před rokem +2

    Methyl hydrazinocarboxylate in a Wolff Kishner is easily S tier and I'll die on that hill

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +1

      DM me a paper on discord - I’m happy to change my mind

  • @haos0423
    @haos0423 Před rokem +1

    It seems that there is no intro has Suzuki coupling covered🙃

  • @fluor-zc8dq
    @fluor-zc8dq Před rokem

    My University has an Ozonation System, and my Org. Chem. Professor once told us the Story, that someone hat this thing running all over the weekend, and than it blew up. Turns out they used air instead of pure O2 for the Ozone generator, which generated NOx, and they used Toluene as a solvent, which was turned into TNT.
    Also my country had a famous company which used Ozonation on an industrial scale, one day it blew up, they rebuild it, it blew up again immediately afterwards, than it shut down.

  • @craigjohnson775
    @craigjohnson775 Před rokem +1

    Ah yes the diels-alder, when I started my career in industry we were making Michael acceptors as covalently bonding anti-cancer drugs. Acryl-Cl was working fine but by suggestion of Phil Baran, we installed cyclpentadiene as a protecting group on acrylamides. Sadly the retro-DA conditions were suboptimal. Being that cyclopentadiene was "expensive" my cheap ass boss made us recover the stuff after multiple steps which was put right back into the sigma bottle it came in then put in the fridge where it was lost among the other relics of failed synthesis.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem

      Furan is a little bit easier to take off than cyclopentadiene

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem

      Lmao saving it

    • @craigjohnson775
      @craigjohnson775 Před rokem

      @@That_Chemist As far as I can remember those suboptimal conditions were: take it and cook it

  • @squelchedotter
    @squelchedotter Před rokem +6

    Now I'm kind of curious about a typical undergrad experiments tier list

  • @SamaelsWut
    @SamaelsWut Před rokem +3

    I would put DA reactions straight up in S Tier since it is so ubiquitous in total synthesis

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +2

      But how many of those total syntheses are used for producing chemicals on a large scale? It may be significant, and I may just be ignorant.

    • @Virtuous_Rogue
      @Virtuous_Rogue Před rokem

      Wikipedia gives 2 industrial applications: production of cyclopentadiene and production of vitamin B6. My suspicion (based on my undergrad in chemical engineering that I barely use) is that industrial production avoids DA where possible because of the side products. You're looking at a separation of 2+ chemical species likely with similar properties which could require a lot of effort and equipment to separate at scale.

  • @p1nkfreud
    @p1nkfreud Před rokem +1

    11:06 Is this how 2-methyl,2-butanol (t-Amylol, Amylene Hydrate) is prepared on an industrial scale?

  • @Grignard
    @Grignard Před rokem +1

    I approve of this ranking

  • @Dovorans
    @Dovorans Před rokem

    I bet the Birch reduction is probably one of the most popular reductions in "backyard chemistry", though almost entirely in the modified form where it eliminates a benzylic alcohol.

  • @stephenjacks8196
    @stephenjacks8196 Před rokem

    Re: Oxy-Mercuration; Cuprous Acetate adds across EWG-Enes, Copper replaced by H+. CuH adds to 1,3 Cyclohex-4-eneDione (H- Cu+).

    • @stephenjacks8196
      @stephenjacks8196 Před rokem

      I.E. Copper powder and Sodium Hydroxide reduce Resorcinol.

  • @loopje
    @loopje Před rokem

    LiAlH reduction caught me by surprise. Also, where does organolithium stand vs grignard?

  • @joshp6061
    @joshp6061 Před rokem

    Currently trying to employ the wittig reaction to synthesize the substrate for an intramolecular macrocyclization. It is NOT working, lmao what tf is it forming?? I’m using a funky phosphonium with little research done with it, and by NMR it looks like the resulting phopho oxide is getting a phenyl ring kicked off?? Really not sure 😂

  • @trappedunderground
    @trappedunderground Před rokem +1

    Out of curiosity, because there are so many ways to reduce nitro groups, which method do you think tops the list?
    I'm also kind of surprised that the Suzuki wasn't listed here.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem +1

      Probably Pd/C and H2 but a lot of ppl use HCl and Fe

    • @pietrotettamanti7239
      @pietrotettamanti7239 Před rokem

      Suzuki usually isn't taught in the first year, it's quite common to have an organometallics course separated from the rest in later years.
      It makes more sense since organometallic reactions tend to have completely different mechanisms from first year reactions.

  • @SoylentGamer
    @SoylentGamer Před 6 měsíci

    Fun-fact: the Friedel-Crafts reaction is commonly used in the illicit production of stimulants
    This is the only reaction I know anything about here.

  • @organicchemistry6357
    @organicchemistry6357 Před rokem

    You forgot to mention Suzuki Miyaura coupling and Gilman reaction. Both are practically useful

  • @JGHFunRun
    @JGHFunRun Před 9 měsíci

    I would say haloform is E tier since you can also use it to make carboxylates from methyl ketones

  • @gamingmarcus
    @gamingmarcus Před rokem

    Finkelstein reaction?
    If you just take it as the classic NaI in acetone then not too useful.
    But if you include the more general application of catalytic iodide salts to bromide/chloride reagents it's very common.
    Also Williamson ether synthesis. Easy S-tier. Everyone makes phenol ethers.

  • @penteractgaming
    @penteractgaming Před rokem +1

    suzuki coupling would have been s tier if it were on the list

  • @postmodernguava9518
    @postmodernguava9518 Před rokem

    The only reaction I've used in my job that I can name is the Sandmeyer reaction, and it isn't even on here

  • @NathanPrice6
    @NathanPrice6 Před rokem

    id love to hear if anyone has used any pericyclic reactions in a synthetic context ever

  • @garrettmineo
    @garrettmineo Před rokem +1

    Being an organotin chemist, I was greatly relieved to see that Grignard made it to S tier…..

  • @KakashiBallZ
    @KakashiBallZ Před rokem

    I've had the honor of performing an oxymercuration/demercuration reaction in grad school. What pisses me off about this reaction is how good and reliable it is. You can use super exotic alcohols and mercury doesn't cause the olefin to migrate.
    There's also huge drawbacks to the safer acid-catalyzed addition of an alcohol across an olefin. The alcohols are almost always primary and they're typically the solvent, since secondary alcohols love to eliminate. Also the acid can cause your olefin to migrate all over the place.
    Do you know what palladium, platinum, ruthenium, and iridium have in common? They can't lace mercury's boots when it comes to adding an alcohol across a double bond.

  • @ragnarok9899
    @ragnarok9899 Před rokem +1

    Hm, I didn't really have any strong disagreements. I mostly agreed with everything give or take a tier. Maybe FC Alkylation deserves to be in at least C tier because it's a C-C bond forming reaction and more importantly FC has a C in it.

  • @user-ry4fr8sn7h
    @user-ry4fr8sn7h Před rokem +1

    Coupling reaction is the most useful reaction nowadays, where is it?

  • @wosmahl
    @wosmahl Před rokem +1

    Great list, I have few opinions hope you dont mind:
    Haloform is probably more usefull as a tool to convert methylketone to carboxylic acid. Still not good enough to get if from the F-tier :D
    Diels alder is probably bit too low, it can generate multiple chiral centers in one step, its often the key step of total synthesis and the chirality can be controlled (somehow). its not ideal but close to S-tier. Especially when Fisher is S-tier but only works well on simple alcohols. Or if Ketalization is A-tier (I hardly ever saw it as something else than protecting the carbonyl)
    and in some ponts /OsO4 dihydroxylation/ I dont understand your ranking, I dont think its fair to rank the reactions by their original conditions when significant improvements (as you mentioned osmate salts, asymmetric variants...) were developed and probably none sane would use stochiometric OsO4 today

  • @ugiswrong
    @ugiswrong Před rokem

    So if I was learning basic o-chem to help my daughter with science homework, would it be better just to focus on the S and A tier?

    • @Dovorans
      @Dovorans Před rokem

      Nah, even if they obsolescent in a modern lab a bunch of these reactions are very useful for introducing concepts of regioselectivity and HOMO LUMO theory to students.

  • @cookiecookiespark7485
    @cookiecookiespark7485 Před rokem +2

    Seems to me ozonalysis uses Zn or dimethylsulfide DMS rather than DMSO

  • @lloydevans2900
    @lloydevans2900 Před rokem

    A question about the osmium tetroxide dihydroxylation of alkenes which has always puzzled me: I know the purpose of the NMO is to re-oxidise the osmium, so that you only need a catalytic quantity of the osmium tetroxide, which makes this less expensive and a little less dangerous. However, finely divided osmium metal and its lower oxides can be oxidised by atmospheric oxygen, which is of course the main danger of working with osmium metal - if exposed to air, there will always be some of the horrifyingly toxic tetroxide present. So if you were doing the dihydroxylation reaction with osmium tetroxide, would it not be possible to bubble oxygen (or just plain old air) through the reaction in order to re-oxidise the osmium? That way you wouldn't need the NMO in there, and the workup and purification would be simpler, would it not?

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem

      I guess you would need to pump lots of oxygen through the reaction mixture, and maybe other ligands in the system (solvent, etc) would slow the re-oxidation process. I haven’t ever used OsO4 tho, so I can’t comment much more than that

  • @taylex18
    @taylex18 Před rokem +1

    Nobody wants to a Jones oxidation and deal with the chromium waste

  • @taylex18
    @taylex18 Před rokem

    The video was a nice idea and obviously just a bit of fun. Be careful if you are teaching students and saying the reactions are not useful in real life. This could send the wrong message about the importance of learning these basic reactions . Keep up the good work.

    • @That_Chemist
      @That_Chemist  Před rokem

      I am happy to stand corrected, and I am always interested in making videos on the application side of chemistry (I’m hoping to be able to do more of that once enough CZcams revenue comes in to finance travel expenses)

  • @davidli6931
    @davidli6931 Před rokem

    BTW where's Clemmensen Reduction?

  • @the_linguist_ll
    @the_linguist_ll Před rokem

    Paternò-Büchi reaction

  • @chanheosican6636
    @chanheosican6636 Před rokem +1

    Chromium salts are nasty. I had some get with dil sulfuric acid land on a ripped glove not a pleasant experience. 2 Weeks for that burn to heal.