The single most common question I'm asked by truck buyers. We discuss the pros and cons of each power option. Please leave your comments and questions.
Thank you Craig! I’m looking at a diesel Isuzu N for a moving business. It’s older, so no DEF system. Do you think I could run biodiesel in one if these? There’s loads of restaurants around here and I figure even running 10% bio would help out with running costs. I’ve read that you sacrifice some power and mpg. What’s you feedback on this, please? Thank you, from Hawaii where fuel is super expensive! Today diesel is $3.29 at Costco. Same as premium. Around $4.29 at other gas stations. So Costco would be my fill up choice but bio diesel is almost free ( sweat equity, mostly) .
Such an article "Gas vs Diesel" causes real confusion between USA and Europe. Gas in Europe (or almost anywhere in the world except America) means natural gas (methane, CH4) and the big debate (Craig's "single most common question") is between gas and diesel NOT gasolene and diesel. Natural gas as a vehicle fuel produces much less air polluting particulates than diesel. To be acceptable the latter requires exhaust clean-up add-ons which cost money to manufacture, install and maintain as well as reducing the basic efficiency of a diesel engine. Chosing natural gas (or biomethane) powered vehicles as part, or all, of a fleet is not simple because the refuelling infrastructure for gas is not yet as widespread as for diesel. The real bonus is that natural gas is renewable and can sustainably be produced from wastes. This is why we maintain that "Biomethane is quietly establishing itself as the world's most environmentally friendly fuel". The fact that it is cheaper also helps!
Hey Craig do you have any info on 4x4 conversions for isuzu N series trucks, or a way to import a 4x4 model from one of the countries where that is an option?
I believe that both drivetrain have their advantages. I for one would choose the diesel powered truck for its low-end torque, and its relative longevity, compared to the gasoline powered truck.
I would agree with you to a point Jason. Most gasoline engines these days have a lifespan of well over 200k. Not the case in the past. In the medium duty market we rarely see customers keep their trucks beyond the 200k point in either engine. So in most cases it boils down to a cost of ownership and operation over a given time span.
@@nutmeginternationaltrucks531 I agree. While not without its faults, and limitations, and even its environmental impact, I'd buy a diesel powered truck in a heartbeat if one were available.
i am currently running a 2012 4300 international with the eaten 6 speed manual and a 24' box/liftgate.....it is a hot shot service and i run mainly florida,georgia,carolinas,and alabama.....i am wondering if the NPR can handle 1500-2000 miles a week with 10%-15% of those miles being the hills/mountains in the area.... i tag at class E (not over 26,000 lbs.)....i am looking at getting a truck in this class range to pull a 32' gooseneck...no air brakes. i went to the NPR factory site and i see no option for a manual tranni...i dot wanna talk to sales reps in person or over the phone...can you answer my questions regarding my personal application ? oh ya..the international 4300 with that dt 466 gets around 9 mpg's with an average load of 10,000 pounds. basicly...i am looking for a lighter truck that can still handle the max of 26,000 gross truck/trailer ......ford,chevy,dodge....outrageous costs !
Nice video, but wanting information on any transmission differences. I am assuming that the Isuzu diesel is supported by an Aisan transmission, whereas the 6.0 is coupled to a 4L80E. Any comments on the lifespan / durability of either option?
If you’re still in the market and considering gas, May also check out the Fuso. Same engine in both. I know they are exiting the US, but still have inventory out there and are owned by Daimler and honoring all warranties and 10 free oil changes. They have an Allison 1000 transmission. 5 year unlimited mile warranty on the transmission. I’ve driven both Fuso and NPR. The Fuso has better brakes by a lot, if you’re used to them and hop in an NPR you may have an oh crap moment that first drive in the NPR. And IMO the chassis provides for a much better ride and driving/handling dynamics in the Fuso. Stay away from their diesel though. Not necessarily because of their engine, but the emissions system will eat up any fuel savings in repair costs as they age. But that may be true of other brands diesels also.
New diesels that are driven in stop and go are not ideal power plants with emission systems on the truck. My challenge is driving 10-15k miles annually doing 10-20 stops a day in and around bordering towns. New diesel emissions becoming a big problem so payload suffers greatly. Any suggestions for a lawn care business that needs to 8-10k in payload unless you do a def and egr delete which voids warranty and puts you at risk for fines
@@craigguru3531 , Ha! I thought you sounded familiar. I'm looking into buying an '11 NPR ECO MAX 3.0 withh 76k miles. Anything I should worry about regarding drivetrain?
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I hear you talk about its B rating being the standard, then read this from Ford: "90 percent of F-650 and F-750 6.7-liter Power Stroke engines expected to go farther than 500,000 miles without requiring a major service" I'm trying to decide on a chassis and don't want to regret dripping 100k on the wrong one..
Thank you very much for your time, this is right up my alley.
Very informative. Thank you.
Thank you so much
Great info 100% correct
Very good presentation. Simple and clear.
We use our old diesel npr as a dump truck and that thing has seen some weight. Older ones make great work trucks of you can get it at a good price
Thank you Craig! I’m looking at a diesel Isuzu N for a moving business. It’s older, so no DEF system. Do you think I could run biodiesel in one if these? There’s loads of restaurants around here and I figure even running 10% bio would help out with running costs. I’ve read that you sacrifice some power and mpg. What’s you feedback on this, please?
Thank you, from Hawaii where fuel is super expensive! Today diesel is $3.29 at Costco. Same as premium. Around $4.29 at other gas stations. So Costco would be my fill up choice but bio diesel is almost free ( sweat equity, mostly) .
Such an article "Gas vs Diesel" causes real confusion between USA and Europe. Gas in Europe (or almost anywhere in the world except America) means natural gas (methane, CH4) and the big debate (Craig's "single most common question") is between gas and diesel NOT gasolene and diesel.
Natural gas as a vehicle fuel produces much less air polluting particulates than diesel. To be acceptable the latter requires exhaust clean-up add-ons which cost money to manufacture, install and maintain as well as reducing the basic efficiency of a diesel engine.
Chosing natural gas (or biomethane) powered vehicles as part, or all, of a fleet is not simple because the refuelling infrastructure for gas is not yet as widespread as for diesel.
The real bonus is that natural gas is renewable and can sustainably be produced from wastes. This is why we maintain that "Biomethane is quietly establishing itself as the world's most environmentally friendly fuel". The fact that it is cheaper also helps!
Hey Craig do you have any info on 4x4 conversions for isuzu N series trucks, or a way to import a 4x4 model from one of the countries where that is an option?
I believe that both drivetrain have their advantages. I for one would choose the diesel powered truck for its low-end torque, and its relative longevity, compared to the gasoline powered truck.
I would agree with you to a point Jason. Most gasoline engines these days have a lifespan of well over 200k. Not the case in the past. In the medium duty market we rarely see customers keep their trucks beyond the 200k point in either engine. So in most cases it boils down to a cost of ownership and operation over a given time span.
@@nutmeginternationaltrucks531 I agree. While not without its faults, and limitations, and even its environmental impact, I'd buy a diesel powered truck in a heartbeat if one were available.
i am currently running a 2012 4300 international with the eaten 6 speed manual and a 24' box/liftgate.....it is a hot shot service and i run mainly florida,georgia,carolinas,and alabama.....i am wondering if the NPR can handle 1500-2000 miles a week with 10%-15% of those miles being the hills/mountains in the area....
i tag at class E (not over 26,000 lbs.)....i am looking at getting a truck in this class range to pull a 32' gooseneck...no air brakes.
i went to the NPR factory site and i see no option for a manual tranni...i dot wanna talk to sales reps in person or over the phone...can you answer my questions regarding my personal application ? oh ya..the international 4300 with that dt 466 gets around 9 mpg's with an average load of 10,000 pounds.
basicly...i am looking for a lighter truck that can still handle the max of 26,000 gross truck/trailer ......ford,chevy,dodge....outrageous costs !
Thank you for the info... if some one has one of these for sale for 1000usd what should i be looking for? What kind of problem should i expect...
What would a 3.0L with a 14ft box get mpg on the highway? What about the 5.2L and the 6.0 gas in the highway? This info seems really hard to find
make more videos on NPR GAS v8 trucks please,
Nice video, but wanting information on any transmission differences. I am assuming that the Isuzu diesel is supported by an Aisan transmission, whereas the 6.0 is coupled to a 4L80E. Any comments on the lifespan / durability of either option?
If you’re still in the market and considering gas, May also check out the Fuso.
Same engine in both.
I know they are exiting the US, but still have inventory out there and are owned by Daimler and honoring all warranties and 10 free oil changes.
They have an Allison 1000 transmission. 5 year unlimited mile warranty on the transmission.
I’ve driven both Fuso and NPR.
The Fuso has better brakes by a lot, if you’re used to them and hop in an NPR you may have an oh crap moment that first drive in the NPR.
And IMO the chassis provides for a much better ride and driving/handling dynamics in the Fuso.
Stay away from their diesel though. Not necessarily because of their engine, but the emissions system will eat up any fuel savings in repair costs as they age.
But that may be true of other brands diesels also.
New diesels that are driven in stop and go are not ideal power plants with emission systems on the truck. My challenge is driving 10-15k miles annually doing 10-20 stops a day in and around bordering towns. New diesel emissions becoming a big problem so payload suffers greatly. Any suggestions for a lawn care business that needs to 8-10k in payload unless you do a def and egr delete which voids warranty and puts you at risk for fines
Truck using gasoline is very strange ... LOL..
Are Isuzu cab over cabs aluminum or steel?
Michael Bradley
All steel MICHAEL
Steel
What makes an NPR HD? I'm Considering a 1998 NPR HD is it sensible or should I run away? 4000$ clean and runs well. single cab -auto-TD
The HD designates the heavy duty NPR. Today's HD is 14,500 gvw vs. 13,000 gvw in the standard NPR diesel version.
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Diésel 100%
Are you the same guy that rebuilt a Chris Craft Lancer?
John Frias yes sir
@@craigguru3531 , Ha! I thought you sounded familiar. I'm looking into buying an '11 NPR ECO MAX 3.0 withh 76k miles. Anything I should worry about regarding drivetrain?
1986 isuzu reklam Türkiye no
Disiel
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I hear you talk about its B rating being the standard, then read this from Ford:
"90 percent of F-650 and F-750 6.7-liter Power Stroke engines expected to go farther than 500,000 miles without requiring a major service"
I'm trying to decide on a chassis and don't want to regret dripping 100k on the wrong one..
So which one did u get???
Real trucks don’t have spark plugs. 😜
Hey buddy you ever heard of the cornbinder gas 549cid V-8!