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- Steve Jobs handling a tough question at the 1997 Worldwide Developer Conference. He had just returned to Apple as an advisor and was guiding sweeping change at the company. The full video is here - • Video - this interactions is at 50:25.
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Basically telling him "You're right, but it doesn't matter" 😂
This should be the top comment.
Or the only comment.
Yeah bc apple has been about customer experience and simplicity instead of being the most high tech
Well, if it mattered then maybe more people would have learned about the technical differences between OpenDoc and Java. But I think it's plain to see that arguing over programming language preferences is a lost-cause, when you can write anything in anything, if you just have NAND gates:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_completeness
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffer_stroke
Everything else is just presentation.
Right his answer is that’s not important for the company vision
@@riseuplight well yeah. He couldn't move 8-10 billion dollars in products. He said it himself clear as day.
The main lesson here is to how to defend yourself without actually attacking your critics.
Or...you know, answering the question that was asked...
edit: I meant...Jobs didn't answer the question.....
Yep I woulda said fuck you that's why and chucked a water bottle at him.
The way the question was asked and the intent behind it didn't merit a straight answer I don't think. Jobs addressed the issue the questioner asked but he didn't rise to the baiting aspect of it. He also clearly realised that here was a person who simply didn't like him and that his willingness to question Jobs was as much about saying what he wanted to say as it was about getting a legitimate response. Anyone who takes the approach that guy did with Jobs is ultimately doing nobody any favors, not least themselves, and is on an inevitable hiding to nothing.
Lol
@@JohnnyF71 asking for honesty, despite the emotional undertones, didn't deserve an answer? Holy fucking stockholm syndrome, batman.
This is a prime text book example of how to handle a aggressive question.
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You Steve jobs riding homosexual
Evade the question?
Not answer it?
@@monotech20.14 he answered, first he set up the context of everything going on the last 7 years without specifying the time span, then he acknowledged that he didn't know in depth what he was talking about Java but instead apple has the people which know or is more in touch with this stuff, and then proceeded to name them as authorities and also gave credit to the whole crew, named and not named... I think it was a solid response, took too many time to elaborate but he had to temper in front of hundreds of people who were right in front, also speaking to the investors...
@@onlygameplay134 he answered you just don't understand
1: "You're right, I don't know everything"
2: It's not about the amount of technology you have, it's about the specific customer's needs
3: We're not perfect and mistakes will be made
Great answer to the question.
Ah man youtube is about to push this video to everyone and their uncles
You’re everywhere
Let’s get this reply to the top
Stranger Strings are happening around here mate.
Let me tell you, this was not the Jobs I was looking for
Genuine question. He said to start with the consumers first and then work backward to the technology but then gives the laser printer analogy of printer built first, and then showing the end product (printed paper) to the consumer; asking them if they like what they see. What did I misunderstand?
legit lmao
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I just love how he doesn't stop talking to receive applause. He knows what he is saying is gold, and he is confident about that and doesn't need recognition for it.
I just finished a huge bio of his, it took me a week of heavy reading to get through it all, and he is a difficult, charming, brilliant human. We lost a lot when he died.
Unlike Elon, who is a complete toolbox and has to have roaring applause everywhere he goes.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboyit's hilarious that you can't see Job's extreme narcissism as well. And last I checked, selling out people's personal info to the government is textbook "Tool" behavior.
But also, belittle your children, and let them know you don't think they're yours.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboythe only thing worse than Elon is you rabid losers who find a way to shoehorn him into every conversation. You’re just as bad as his fan boys.
The patience to go after the spirit of the question, really comes when you've seen a lot of life, and you're lesser interested in "where the question came from", or the spite that the question had, very clearly and more interested in answering whatever piece of truth the question has.
Rejections, life, failure, everything gives you that humility of spirit. What we see here, is that grounding-in-truth in steve jobs in action. Forever a class act. RIP Steve.
RIP your POOR COUNTRY english u disgusting indian 🇮🇳 villager
Steve Jobs was a horribly impatient man. He was, however, charismatic and an amazing communicator.
The concept you’re bringing up here is a big reason why so many of us Christians believe what we do. There’s an unprecedented amount of power that comes with such a seemingly simple concept to implement. And yet time and time again people find it almost impossible to take a moment to consider the circumstances that one might come from and what they really might be thinking when they say something that seems to be necessarily an attack. People very rarely have a great day and then decide to go ruin someone else’s. For someone to see you genuinely making the effort to be compassionate and understanding to one who wouldn’t dare provide you the same courtesy, has so much power so as it can make an individual become reflective of things they otherwise wouldn’t give a second thought to. It’s really cool stuff. I didn’t know Steve was so wise.
This might sound weird but He’s got some great pauses. It’s like a power move,draws you in.
yea... its a thing though :/
like, you dont sound wierd...
It's called a Pregnant Pause 😎
His first one in the opening was so powerful I genuinely thought my video was buffering .....
It surely
does.
And after this, everyone in the valley talked like Steve Jobs.
How do you mean? Do you mean like the long pauses he employs?
If its any good, why not? When u found a diamond mine, u dont walk away from it, u keep mining.
They talked like an asshole?
what do you mean talked like Steve Jobs
@@frankburdodrums8984 if he sounds like an asshole to you... well... wait till you meet a real one
I use this clip for my clients to demonstrate how to respond and not react to conflict. Say what you will about Steve Jobs, but in this instance, he managed the conflict brilliantly.
"Some mistakes will be made, and that's good, because decisions are being made" that hit me, as a person who worked for the government for a decade.
The way he answered the critic shows how intelligent and different he was
You can see that for a moment he was about to let him have it.
@@gutenbird haha... exactly. You could see him calming himself
Man what a tuff guy, really do miss watching his style of intro to apple products!
Man you should watch Jordan Peterson
He didn’t answer the questions. I think the critic asked about java?? Then asked what he has been doing personally for past 7 years. He didn’t answer, he gave a politicians answer
Two points:
1. Why is this showing up in my feed today?
2. Nice patches.
True, CZcams algo choose what you watch 😅 No idea why it brought me here to
Ey I have the same question
Drip
Patches?
Those knee patches show me how much Steve job really had to do to give apple a shot lol
Start with the customer experience and work backwards from there to the technology. Man that is powerful. What an amazing and inspirational man he was.
And the moment he died, they threw that philosophy out the window.
Mmmm, kinda. I'll give him props for his business abilities and taking care of his people (at work). He's also done a lot of really shitty things in his life, the way that he treated his first daughter and her mother is an absolute disgrace. I'm actually surprised that nobody in that family gave him a real-world lesson in why you don't treat people like that. Dude had $50 million, a bank account that was growing exponentially, and his daughter was living in a cockroach-infested apartment in a scary neighborhood (he later trashes the mother to the media), that's a hard piece of knowledge to get past. It's one thing to be pissed at your girlfriend, it's quite another to take it out on your own daughter. It's weird how a lot of these guys are just brilliant at work and total morons in their personal life.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboy In a nutshell, you just explained the rise of Trump. This country psychically rewards wealth and cedes power to it and doesn't care much about how it was gotten (unless through direct theft).
Really makes me think of the Vision Pro. Cool technology that does almost nothing for the customer.
@@Skank_and_Gutterboyno it makes perfect sense. Fortune 500 is cutthroat. You don’t get there without standing on a mountain of corpses. No person with strong morals can ever be a billionaire.
It’s important to note that he did not take it as a personal insult which it may have been, but abstracted and respected the question for its logical content, and gave a logical rebuttal. On the other hand, he did address the personal insult by indirectly showing how idiotic the question was, how hard they were working, and gaining the upper hand with the crowd. Humans are just an ape troupe, some will dominate, some will be lieutenants and some will be odd ball. Some will be outcasts.
Yeah and outcasts are essential. Ape drive big truck, votes in politicians against their own interests
Yeah, look at his reaction, and then think of how Elon Musk, or Linus Torvalds, or even Donald Trump would have reacted 😂😂😂😂
@@ViceKnIghtTAElon probably would have just said something along the lines of “and what have you done today to make an impact other than wipe your ass?”
@@ashleyren22 😂
Jobs was a much better person than me. I would have answered the "what have you been doing for the past 7 years" question with "your mom"
I mean, that WOULD be more time - efficient
Why would you have to insult his mom to respond to the comment? His mom is not there. Think of something that is only related to him!
What are you 12?
I'd like to know what that dick head audience person has done with his life since then.
Damn lol snowflakes invaded your reply section haha
I bet that dude got recommended the same video on his Apple device
😅😅 comment of the day
I would disagree feel like most professional programmers wouldn't use apple
Lol that dude has an Android 100%. Or maybe a Windows Phone lol
@@pointblank0020 So pretty much any other phone than the iPhone's?
@@jackcartwright8576 Lots of professional programmers use apple tho. Look at the stack overflow developer surveys
"start with the customer experience then work backward to the technology" epic statement in which the computer software design industry today no longer adheres to.
It's amazing how that statement holds up. Meta and NFT's come to mind when I hear that statement.
Nowadays it's more like start with a sellable story and work your way to a SPAC.
Entire web 3 comes to my mind when I hear it.
oh no they still do, the average technology purchaser isn't their primary customer, however. The person buying all of your personal information from their "customer metrics" harvesting is their primary customer. You are the product.
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He has a big heart. Because he handled the aggressive question exactly as if it came from his own daughter while trying to inject real optimism into the situation and reassuring the majority of his customers. He just didn't use the word "sweetie".
He had a large audience, he was concerned about appearances. If this had occurred one on one, he would have shown his true colors.
Job was not a nice guy, so he knew how to handle such questions as he was very familiar with the attitude.
He was notoriously difficult to work with. He was not a nice guy. It’s very different when you’re on a stage trying to reach your customer base and when you’re behind closed doors. Jobs shows an enormous amount of restraint here and that’s amazing to watch someone navigate that question like that. But he was absolutely a jerk.
@@burritoomg On the contrary. He was kicked out of his own company and took it like a calm gentleman. Just like in this video. It's Jobs nature. Occasionally he can burst out with verbal abuse but once its off his chest he forgets all grudges and is harmless as a fly.
@@Almarillion You don't know what you're talking about. Jobs was hot-headed in moments of desperation. But he held zero grudges. He was kicked off his own company. Did he sue Apple and lock in a decade legal battle?? Not a chance. He forgave forgot and moved forward. He took it like a pro. He took it as an opportunity and created Pixar.
The pause before his answer I think is something we can all learn from. Instead of getting heated and just flap out something stupid and not thought through, he went and put his answer together first and instead of just focusing on the guy asking the question, he answered with an answer for the whole crowd. I'm glad this popped up in my suggested videos!
Jonxd: I humbly disagree... the pause was perhaps because he did not have an answer, an “appropriate”answer, or unwilling to answer.
Nah, he answered wrong, this interview was a disaster and Apple did not do well, this was Long before iPhone
but he just spouted BS in reply...Jobs had fuck all technical ability. Sure, he had a vision, but he was a marketing person. Nothing more and nothing less. Vastly overhyped. And Apple is a cunt of a company anyway.
@@oleand14 Yes, the iMac wasn't successful at all. LOL
Dr Jordan Peterson does the same thing. Speaks volumes to their character
I feel the dude who started clapping by himself
1:59
I wasn't there that day. That wasn't me. One down, 7 billion to go.
@Dgiztred Neither, that’s now only 7 billion to go
@@nathanpyle3664 yeah same, wow look, only 7 billion to go
Prevail Dreamzs same here, 7 billion to go
How he handled that is truly inspirational
I like the way that, in Job’s response, he laid out what had actually been done with all the mistakes he himself made against what the audience knew was the successes already achieved. Nothing beats humility and facts laid down.
I just realised Steve Jobs kinda looks like Tom cruise in some angles.
rather looks like Ashton Kutcher, there was a movie where he looked like Jobs
@@baxeelelle he looks more like kevin malone
I see it, like a weird fusion of Tom Cruise and Steven Seagal
No, he doesn’t.
Only in this video haha
“As for the last seven years, ask your mom”
Hahahahaha
This needs to go up XD
😆😆🤣🤣💀
Lol 😂 goes well with the ending thumbnail
Goddamn that would've been SAVAGE!
Most educational. Thank you Steve and Jonathan for keeping this wisdom alive.
Definitely some of the best from the man so many loved to hate. When you realize "Hate is just love looking for a better way to express itself," it becomes apparently evident that a genius is someone who can benefit from either expression.
What does this even mean 🤣?? "Hate is just Love"? Some people kill those they hate, is that love? And how exactly is genius benefitted from expressions of love and hate. Sounds like a bunch of words attempting to sound profound.
@jt.633 to be fair, some people kill, not for love or hate at all, and those are psychos and sociopaths.
Talk about a slackjawed moron 😂 ceo asslicker
🤦 Nobody "loves to hate" real people. That's a term people use to describe actors playing villains in film or television. Very few of Job's critics have actual hate for a man they don't know. Most just dislike his business tactics and practices.
@@jt.633Love and hate are definitely related. Think of all the religious leaders who preach against homosexuality, but then wind up being caught in a public bathroom engaging in it.
this guy is good, should start a small business idk
@@ashya1101 mega wooosh
Hahah what an original comment
Yeah, but I guess the market is pretty saturated by the big names. I don't see him going very far.
@@ashya1101 r/whoooooooosh
@@ashya1101 youre dumb ashya
He made billions of dollars. Didn't spend a single one of them on a belt, ever.
he’s wearing a belt in the video
@@callum7492 No he isn't.
@@callum7492 you might want to go to an eye doctor (or fire your current one).
03:58
The man rarely wore shoes unless he had to ffs lol
10 years after that, Apple launched the iPhone.
Wow,what a time to be alive,learning from Steve jobs himself even though he's not with us,his knowledge will enrich so many new aspiring hungry learners.
Mental note: Always have a bottle of water with you when you're about to answer a important question.
to throw it at rude people in the audience.!
I practice that pause when someone ask me a tough question, i look down in a thoughtful way. And is amazing that people actually stay quiet awaiting the answer and is not even awkward.
However, half the time i cant come up wt an eloquent answer 😆😆
@DaBeezKneez just say "listen that's a great question and I don't know the answer, but I will find the answer, I can promise you that, and I will get back to you" works like a charm
@@user-vm1pe2ve3z*_You must work in H.R.?_*
@@DaBeezKneez what, you mean you can't sit down for half a minute and then stand up with a perfectly constructed essay that somehow ends in a motivational speech followed by applause from the audience? I don't believe you 😂 /s
Just love how he simply dodges the question by delivering a speech about why the question is basically irrelevant in the bigger picture :D Genius
He didn’t he answered what mattered and didn’t fall into the trap. He’s also saying I don’t need to know the implementers do.
@B Ready and you're missing your proper grammar
@@andrei-un3yr You should not insult someone else's grammar, if you're not going to bother with proper sentence structure and punctuation.
@@NaptownClassic I beg your forgiveness. Let me give you something in return 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿.
@@andrei-un3yr Don't be salty now.
This is why he is a CEO. A CEO has to be able to think this way. Many people do not think this way.
This is back when live questions were't scripted so authentic.
See you all in 10 years when CZcams randomly recommends this again.
Lmfao yo this is crazy
💀💀💀💀 faxx
yup lol
It was random? I thought it was something I searched but you're probably right.
Hi from 2020
"What have you been doing for the last seven years?"
"...Your mother."
- 2020
Destruction - 100
Nice!!
Dude that was awesome!
much better answer
It's a great answer and follows the structure anyone would give who has had some media training. Hear the question, acknowledge it and then talk about what you want to.
The critic was mad confident and you gotta give respect for that one lol
Yup, nowadays people would only say stuff like that on twitter. This guy did it in front of a room full of people
I like how he is first THINKING and then Speaking.
Elon Musk does that too. He'll pause and think before he starts speaking. Some people think it's awkward but really it's intelligent.
It’s also a good speaking tactic, because opening up silence draws the audiences attention, and adds a greater sense of importance and sincerity to your words.
I salute you King for recognizing this behavior
everyone should do that. It's not hard. It just takes a little patience and intentionality - things nobody seems to have
maybe he was contemplating what it would look like to see that developer's head on a spike
Why does this sound like Christian Bale talking about Genesis in American Psycho
Lol
i thought exactly the same
Me: Can I see your Business card Mr. jobs?
Steve: Ah ( flips it his card storer open)
Me: Look at that subtle off white colouring, it even had an Apple watermark.
Because he was a psycho
Probably had some videos tapes to return.
He left both questions completely unanswered.
He’s answering the question at 1:54
I don't know how to stop rewatching this.
Emotional intelligence is the key here. He's not emotionally triggered at all. That's how he could manage to answer logically, properly.
He is labeled as a narcissist by psychologists, so you know he has huge rage building up. This video is a representation of how easily people can be fooled and believe the opposite about narcissists.
@@andrewherrera7735 where do you wanna get to with that statement? Wtf
ur overrating him. he's not that good.
@@andrewherrera7735 Yes, he was an extremely intelligent and insightful narcissist. But we all have narcissistic tendencies in our worst moments. Even you.
I respect Jobs, but c'mon, "He's not emotionally triggered at all.", that just isn't true. He's just doing a very good job at keeping himself composed. Behind closed doors Steve Jobs would have let loose on this guy. No hate, but Andrew is partially correct.
When Steve slams that water you know he’s like “dont kill him remain calm”
Lmfao
Couldn't manage a wank
Ethan M UK hahaha
@@FyouThatsMyName I just farted
Jajaja fart funny
As assernine as the question and assertion was, it elicited one of the best responses. Its refreshing to hear someone who is so coherent and good at communicating to an audience.
Kek snake
Assernine? Lmao
@@markbailey8086 Illiteracy is not impeding anyone from posting on the internet.
@@adventurer3645 definitely not.
As what
This interview is so fascinating! I remember my career turbocharging after the release of the iPhone, marking the beginning of the experience age.
This is why Jobs was a great CEO. He does that “Jedi Mind Trick” high level executives have. Answering a question without answering the question.
exactly, and the pauses he make, is choosing the right words, very intelligent human
im sorry my english
Of course he doesn't answer it, because the question is legitimate.
But he actually did answer the question, in an indirect way, and provide a lot of more information.
@@khoiminh2633 that is the Jedi mind trick. Answering the question without answering the question
@@spidey677 Ah, I misunderstood your comment. I thought you said he just replying the question w/o answering it.
FUN FACT: Steve Jobs is actually describing CZcams's ambition to suggest this video to everyone who didn't ask for this.
Are you reading my mind ? ...😮
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Hes coming back from the dead through ai algorythyms
3:28
Yes he doesn't knowthe answer, hewas always promoting Apple but nothing else
I love this man. He is honest, and brilliant, and laser sharp when it comes to his inventions. And, yeah, within two minutes the question is lost and we don't even care. =)
It wasn't until this video I realized that the cadence of Steve Jobs speaking voice, is something I think Todd Howard tries to emulate. Been obsessed with Starfield and watched the direct a bunch and Todd talks in similar pauses
No matter what your opinion of him, look how he actually THINKS about his answer, he's happy to let the silence fill the air for a moment... How often do you honestly see that from anyone answering difficult questions live these days?
So genuine - I loved that as well
Jordan Peterson does the same, it shows they're taking the time to formulate their words wisely... sometimes you need to be able to speak fast, like in a presidential debate, but if you don't need to be quick with your wit, then be slow and steady instead.
Especially from the orange guy with the candy floss hair
@@philipwilliams6307 So we must wonder how a guy that can't construct sentences, and doesn't listen to anyone, is president
"regardless of what he's saying look how mysterious he is" apple user for sure..
"We'll make mistakes, and that's good, 'cause it tells you that at least decisions are being made..." - genius
Fail fast, learn from it, then move on and build something better.
Fail, try again, fail better. For the likes of me I can't remember who quoted that. Francis Beckett maybe?
@@saintnash1 Yep. He was one of the best at it.
@@saintnash1 Gates is a million times worse
@@saintnash1 You need a cognitive dissonance lesson through extensive 3rd eye cleansing.
How he used the answer to praise his engineering group and their dedication. Subtly laying x3 offers and sticking with him. Just brilliant!
I do like the way he thinks before he speaks instead of talking around the question or just saying absolutely nothing with words
The brilliance here, (and you see politicians do this too) is to not answer the question directly, but to push your own ideas in a manner that the audience would find agreeable.
It’s really not that difficult and it’s really annoying to see people praise this guy in the comments for shit any hustler selling shoe cleaner at the mall can do.
But Steve Jobs wasn't a shoe cleaner hustler in the mall
Jacob Dunham
He did answer. He did say, that the guy is probably right and that he doesn’t know what he‘s talking about, but then explains why he and his team work the way they did.
It was a good, honest answer. Not your typical corporate non-answer at all. Trust me, I‘ve seen plenty of those.
Jacob Dunham The tactic might be easy to identify, but to pull it off effectively is the difference between a world leader, CEO, or a shoe salesman. It’s a skill that some people are extremely good at and are just born with it.
@@jacobdunham1993 Comparing Steve Jobs to a shoe cleaner hustler? LOL, what a moron!
He waited to actually think of a response. He didn’t let a room full of hundreds of people force his thoughts, he took his time.
And they waited with baited breath........ Some advantage for sure.
It’s fake.guy was a plant
@@Heirllionaire source?
His vision was/is so clear and you could see it through this example of how he articulated himself.
“..and I think it’s the right path to take”
It isn’t just brilliance, but his sincerity to what he wish to bring to customers. Typing this in an Iphone 15 pro.
"Some mistakes will be made along the way and that's good because at least some decisions are being made"
Steve Jobs
That was the largest issue at Apple. A lot of tech being developed and each department fighting against each other. The biggest example is the Newton was not allowed to add color lcd, better battery or keyboard because the Powerbook division would not allow it. Steve did kill the Newton but when the iPod came out and was making Apple a mint he didn't fear another tech coming out (iPhone) and eating it's sales as long as it was Apple's tech.
Trump is a shill and peadoh
Adam anyways, Trump 2020
Inspirational
@@johnnunez5715
I really wanted a Newton. And I'm really glad I didn't waste my money on one.
"you've gotta start with the customer experience and work backward to the technology"
Most underrated quote in tech history. Ever.
i don't know lol, it's literally the whole concept of ITIL lol
Then why does Apple treat their customers like garbage? Lol
@@Maartwo cuz that vision and passion ended when Steve passed and his buddy Woznyak left.
If only that still held up for apple :///
@@Stephen_Black I promise you
More people have roku than apple Tv
Holy crap! What a leader that takes responsibility and apologizes
The Perfect Politician.
In fairness to the dev who asked this question, he was responding directly to Jobs's previous answer where he said some arguably questionable things. Like how grumpy engineers who he fired from Apple "hadn't done anything in seven years" and that, justifying his termination of Open Doc specifically, "there are some things in the Java space that I think are much better." (which if you know anything about these technologies is a total non sequitur).
The dev is clearly pissed off and rude, but you have to place his adversarial "question" in context of what Jobs just said.
Tea.... Jobs is not a good guy lol, but people love to idolize him. I would probably be supportive to the dev lmao.
Appreciate this comment, I always thought it was a weird question/insult and was actually just trying to figure out what he's actually asking.
Finest comment i've read in a while..
That Jobs let Mr. Milktoast criticize him without interruption is a testament to his fearlessness as a CEO and, ultimately, as an innovator. Jobs made so many of us millionaires. If you don't know, well, you just don't know.
He handled himself with a view toward his investors. Thanks again Steve.
@@golf-freq Guess what happened to the dev after the
conference.
10 billion dollars worth of product a year" Only if he could see now how many billions apple is worth. Legend.
He don't care about money, men like him and Musk could give 2 shits about money.
Trash
One of the only companies worth 1T to date
Frederick Jackson right
@abc123836 true in terms of market value though
Steve Jobs is a speech 100 character.
Great pivot in his answer to that outright insult of a question.
This guy looks like he could start up a tech company.
Ever heard of Samsung?
He did, Samsung
That’s Steve jobs u idiot 😂
@@charleswhitlock4239 No, that's John Lennon, are you on crack or something?
@@cardodalisay817 he's trolling man dont pay any mind to him
This gentleman's question is now permanently recorded on the internet for everyone to see on their phones
You have a firm grasp of the obvious
@@gianluca.g youre a real genius
@@gianluca.g Not true
Contrary to what you, the follower, might believe, some of us have never and will never own a fucking iphone. Fuck this guy.
@@PP-ed9cf They call you people the poor, don't have to point out the obvious.
The pause before his answer was the best part of this video 🤣🤣🤣 I thought he was about to torch this man, for real 🤣🤣🤣
I appreciate how clearly you can tell that Jobs had thought of these things. He knew there would be people with a lot of pushback about a lot of things going on at this time, I think this is right after his return to apple after his time with Next, but you can tell he knows that people would have these issues and he knows why he believes what he is doing is still the best option.
Hmmm, something I take home from this video: "Don't address the person, address the audience". And interestingly I don't think he could pull that off without a long awkward-ish pause. Really nice speaker skills right there.
That's a really good observation. It seems like a good habit to behave as if the audience is on your side, which in most cases they are.
I wouldn't consider it an awkward pause, its more about thinking about a response. Its about taking your words and putting them into the best wording to make as many people happy and give a proper response.
We live in a age now where everyone types the first thing in their heads and twits it or Fbooks it, people just repost memes and share pictures without a second thought, people dont stand back and smell the roses and think about how their action might have reprecussions.
Yes, I agree.
@@APRCraig Basically, most people lack critical thinking skills and/or enough patience and wit to properly answer *instead of reacting* a question. 🤣
@@thenaughtyamericanexpat Trouble is he didn't answer the question properly at all.
that guy is sitting at home livid because everyone’s watching him get outsmarted by steve jobs, on an iphone
EDIT: This was always just a joke lol. I don’t think he “outsmarted him” and i know everyone’s not on an iPhone. I appreciate everyone’s enthusiasm about the topic but my inbox is flooded w people who want to argue w me. It’s a joke, plz don’t take it too serious lmao
Lmao
I’m dead 🤣 and yes I’m on an iPhone. And yes I hate it. But damnit, the thing won’t die.
@@malcolmosburne7266 why you lying?
I mean... Jobs didn't really answer any of the guy's questions. He just made an elegant distracting speech so everyone would forget the questions lol.
David L. he literally said he doesn’t know much about open doc. that answered the question.
one of the best videos on youtube
After watching today’s Apple event I’m more nostalgic for this era right here. How did the apple fall so far from the tree?
“some mistakes will be made along the way and that’s good because that means some decisions are being made along the way” love that quote
Typical romantic nonsense, these words are always not right and not wrong.
In a world rife with quotes one can only hope theirs will be memorable. I just made that up... The point is his only skill was being a showman. The technical talent and software were the achievements of his staff. Not saying he wasn't skilled as an individual, he was a glorious poster boy and this clip along with some of his other interviews highlight that; hell we just watched him say nothing at all and get an applause for it... That's a talent.
@@dukenukem4447 I don’t care necessarily about him. I am not a fan boy of Steve Jobs by any means or even a “apple guy” for that matter. If people think I like the quote only because of who said then that’s funny lol. If my friend Ted said this I would still like it. It’s a nice quote no matter who says it. Almost everyone at points in their life live in fear of making mistakes and it makes them fear taking risks but sometimes that can lead to regret. I’ve always lived my life knowing I’m going to make alot of mistakes, some big some small, but I’m ok with that because that means I’m at least trying and I’ll never know the answer to something unless I do. Thats what the quote makes me think of and I think it’s something a lot of people struggle with. Point is I think people need to stop over complicating stuff because of who said what and who that person is blah blah blah. It’s a nice quote that’s all lol
@@dkmike2299 You don't have to convince me of your reasoning behind liking the quote; I have no idea what other people think. I am glad you found a quote you like, since we're sharing, I had a really good cup of coffee this morning.
@@dukenukem4447 lol
Saying Steve Jobs did nothing is like saying "a farmer does nothing, because the food grows by itself".
Saying Steve Jobs did nothing is like saying "a farmer does nothing, he told his Mexican laborers to grow and pick the food"...wait up, whats exactly what he did lmfao
@Hudson Hawk6 So he's a good CEO, not the Jesus of computers.
@@TotallyNotElPresidente Only Jesus is the Jesus of Everything. Everyone else is just trying to make a living.
@Hudson Hawk6 This is what minorities Dont like to hear. They're being put to good use bc of their leechy and thus sometimes ignorant behaviour. It's hard to blame it on them since they're born that way, but the world just isn't fair. Few understand
El Presidente Make sure to go fuck yourself socialist.
He is the man of passion and sheer commitment
I love this. A guy I have never heard of telling Steve Jobs he doesn't know what he is talking about. This ages like fine wine.
Anyone else hear that one person who clapped and stopped clapping once he realized he was the only one
Vincent Granath 1:59
He actually felt the lines and had to drop an applause but you know....shit happens.
His parole officer
Someone should have thrown him a fish
happened to me once, feels terrible :')
Classy and well done response. Admits to his limitations, acknowledges the complaint without attacking the man, and gives other people credit. That was some good leadership there.
His response came of like a political speech to me... redirecting the attention of the matter instead of answering his question directly (the guys who asked was probably upset because of OpenDocs, which is reasonable and valid because the years, time, and money invested into it essentially went to waste) so I wouldn't say it was good leadership and just because his speech contained almost no fillers didn't mean he was exactly being direct with his answer. Just notice how he mentioned about making a product that would make 10 billion dollars a year and how he would see his products through the eyes of the customer instead of engineers that could make the next best things of technology. Both of those are irrelevant to his question regarding the discontinuation of OpenDocs. Again, *redirection*
@@newprojects7847 he actually did answer both questions: he didn't know much about stuff the guy asked about, because for the past years he's been working on understanding customers' needs and giving directions on how to do that to the development teams
Edit: also, how else is business supposed to work, Jobs had his own vision and shift of interest so he decided other things were better idea to develop than the OpenDocs
The hype around this guy is actually a shame and turns people off. At least he actually learned from his mistakes and was a much better leader than most.
Jobs was great at marketing, almost a visionary. Outside of that all other indicators was that he was a total a-hole people hated to be around. His real lasting legacy will be how his vision (and his engineers) brought cell phones into the modern era.
@@newprojects7847That’s how the real world works. Sucks for the workers, but that’s how it goes.
“Don’t answer the question you were asked, answer the question you wish you were asked.”
What a great audience. All intently listening.
I guess the questioner was an OpenDoc developer who had realized he had wasted the last 5 years of his career.
Insightful comment I couldn’t figure out from what perspective/position he was asking these questions. It all makes sense to me now 🙌🔥
lol that makes the exchange meaningful (and funnier :) )
@@effortlessawareness8778 Or an investor. Someone with stakes in OpenDoc...
poor lad had no idea Java was the future
@The Fandom Menace pls explain
It's all about that pause at the start. That pause would have saved me so much grief over the course of my life 😂
I hear ya...
Bruh even when i pause i cant think of the right shit to say; till after its all done.
Totally.
The pause is he physical manifestation of his brain telling him to calm down
@@tommytangle3392 Hey man, it's better than just getting angry and making mistakes you wont be able to fix. I think that what you're experiencing is actually helping you out.
Good observation, Adam. Yes, if only we always had thought before we opened our mouth.
"And I've got the scar tissue to prove it" was a brilliant line. Also, "Start with the customer experience and work backwards" and implying mistakes are a necessary byproduct of progress.
All gold
Humble, practical and down to earth
Some guy in 2020 working at CZcams: Yeah I think people are ready to see this.
Yes but no... It's Al
@@nijamkaj spooky
TMTK33 You care enough to reply after finding it in your recommendations.
His name is Ultron.
😂💀💀💀😂 it’s AI fool
I can appreciate a person that takes a moment to think before every time they speak. If everyone did this the world would be a much nicer place
But he gave an answer that had close to no value. Just talked some nonsense and putting some 'tech' words here and there so that an average person would think he said something of value.
@@Monsizr his answer is quite clear : He doesn't know a lot about tech but had understood this basic rule to selling billions of products : focus on the user experience before focusing on the tech (even if it is the best and has a big dev community)
@@Monsizr He gave a clear answer dude. You not understanding his answer, in a way proves why some things need to be simplified for a general audience.
Question: why does this do that better than your product
Answer: it does, but it only does that thing better while we focus on making system, that accomodate for a much wider and diverse group of users
It's like going to Mercedes and asking why their S-Class doesn't have the same Nurburgring lap time as the audi r8 although they cost equally as much. R8 is only useful for racetracks, while your S-class is way more practical.
He used others products but know how to sell them - He used child laborers - He used India poverty to hire there people that made most of Apple apps and sys of phones.
Yeah the world is nicer place because he is dead.
I agree with Jobs here. I'm a programmer, and during code reviews, the other programmers obsess over things like the name of a variable, or avoiding code duplication of a single line of code that is the same as another line of code.
The client doesn't care what you name a variable. The client doesn't care that a whopping single line of code was duplicated.
I'm focused on creating new functionality for the clients, my coworkers are focused on stupid things like the name of a variable, and doing things the "right" way. Jobs focused on meeting the needs of clients, the guy in the audience focused on trivial things that don't matter to anyone except techies.
Having developed software for over 20 years, I have to point out you're quite wrong on this. I presume you're working under a bigger team, and if everyone's using their own naming conventions and duplicating code all over the place, you'll soon find that it affects the client in more than a few ways :
a) Bad Code Performance due to bloated libraries
b) Taking a much longer time to make changes than it normally would because of unreadability, bad code dependencies and duplication
c) When you leave, you leave a horrible mess of spaghetti for the next unfortunate guy taking over your role
What Jobs is talking about is making sure to design needs around the customer when building products - he's not saying you're allowed to go all cowboy on the way you code.
If you consistently submitted code in the way you've described in any of the big tech firms, you'd find your code consistently rejected, and very soon out of a job.
@@edzehoo The rule in our company used to be that 7 lines or more of code that were the same needed to be refactored into a single method. That's reasonable. But the manager of the team left, and now the rule is that a single line of code being duplicated somewhere else is "too much" code duplication. That borders on OCD behavior, and also points out how much free time the new manager has on his hands, that he has to waste everyone else's time with this nonsense. There is no large tech firm that thinks a single line of code duplication is "too much".
And I remember Hungarian notation, where the type of the variable had to prefix every variable, like booleans starting with a "b", and integers starting with an "i". Then that convention became "wrong", because your methods are supposed to be so small that you should be able to determine the type of the variable just by reading the entire method. So obviously naming conventions are completely arbitrary. They give little tyrants a way to feel important, but help the client in no way. And if you believe the argument that methods are so small that you don't need to use Hungarian notation anymore, the same logic applies to the entire name of the variable itself. Since the method is so small, you should be able to figure out what the variable does regardless of its name.
@@firstlast1947 Well, the devil's in the details. If your variables have confusing names, but you grace it at least with a comment describing what it does, I would give it a pass. Also, I wouldn't mind someone declaring 'for (var i=0;i
wow, real class, to be able to respond the way he did :)
He thinks Jobs is a programmer not a businessman.
He did program too. He was like Elon Musk is to spaceX very involved with the engineering
Jobs is a salesman.
@@taylorlangley900 no he wasn't like that at all
T. He was
@@t.7527 How do you know? Did you know him personally or work at Apple?
Answers politely, but doesn't answer either of the two questions.
@@TK-ju5hv Steve jobs did none of the work. Literally since the very beginning he's only taken credit for other people's work
@@aaaaaaxaaaaaa His job was having remarkable taste, and building a team. He did both of those remarkably well. He had Apple take credit for the work people do -- at Apple. That's perfectly reasonable.
@@TK-ju5hv Calm down clown. Steve Jobs is great, nobody is denying that. But he is overrated, the engineers behind all the stuff is 10 times the man Steve jobs is, thats the point.
Coz he doesn't have to justify himself to some little nerd.
@@zaza-ik5ws I am a design director and work with "engineers behind all the stuff". they would never invent simple to use stuff, that works, is sexy and changes the world on their own. you always get the beaten path and many times even "strange" solutions. (and I don´t look down on them. don´t get me wrong. they know things that I don´t but they lack of a certain vision)
Jobs is absolutely right, to start with the consumer EXPERIENCE and work the way back to the technology.
we can not pretend nowadays to still do stuff like in the 70s or 90s. that would be boring as hell!
look at all the USB-mp3 players. (remember?) NOBODY ever thought of using a f..g HARDDRIVE or a screen and touch technology. and yes, S. Jobs or Apple did not invent all of that but no company put it on the market, like Apple did.
the Ipod not just changed the MP3 player industry, it changed the whole music industry, which BTW was busy fighting Napster suing users worldwide and being afraid of the internet.
CAN YOU IMAGINE??? not taking advantage of humanities biggest step into the new age of information.
Microsoft still used styluses and a desktop IOS with folders an root directory. with
who f..g cares about that?? APPS were invented, all the sudden we paid 99ct for a song and music industry made more money than ever.
(even with the possibility to copy or downoad everything for free)
AN ENGINEER WOULD ALWAYS TRY TO BUILD A "BETTER RADIO" WHICH STILL LOOKS LIKE A RADIO and never invent an Ipod or an Ipad with touch and APPS.
P. E. R. I. O. D. ! ! ! ! !
you need a VISIONARY GENIUS to fight for all this stuff and convince, force, a team, a company to be brave enough and BORED about shitty solutions and pushing his engineers to do what Apple did.
do you really think Jobs claims to code better than his engineers or solders better than his assembly workers (machines, btw)
from my own life...
I recently worked on my own product, and started a brand. (an innovation in electronics.) without even knowing electronics at all. the engineers couldnt solve what I envisioned. So I started watching CZcams videos, registered in online forums and was searching by myself. (again, without a clue of electronics!!) I found things OUTSIDE THE BOX. maybe my lack of knowledge didn´t set me boundaries and the result was 10x better than what was thought is possible.
no joke!
my product heats liquid in 15sec and competitors so far take 12min! their batteries run out of power after 2 times. my product can do 20-25. (!)
a very useful product btw.
many companies tried but they go down beaten paths and use the same, as always.
they think "radio" I think Ipad. (just an example)
and by coincidence I did the same as Jobs did. looking at the product from the user experience and I said, how come it takes 12 min??? nobody will do that! the engineers said, its simply not possible. the battery will be 13kg and that is not portable anymore.
so I solved the problems myself.
with endless nights on youtube, ending up at 3am on KNIFEMAKING videos or freediving lessons to hold your breath for 6 min... (you know what I mean) crazy shit. but EXACTLY that is, where you find solutions which nobody thought of.
I was not randomly searching. I was looking how other industries solve a problem and there it was.
Apple did not invent the touchscreen but made the most out of it. why did Blackberry have no touchscreen? because they shit their pants to go down that path. they were afraid to build the hardware it takes.
anyway... Jobs is probably a shitty coder or can´t even code himself. but who cares? he can lead a team of engineers to change the world.
peace ; )
I wish his “customer first” philosophy still existed at Apple.
I like how he pauses when hes thinking instead of saying um um um um um
That's a hard skill to master.
When people say I’m a million times it’s a manipulation tactic, it also distracts you from previous statements. It’s basically a stupid liars game to con people.
@@Vaultzero Or, umm, it's something bad speakers do to fill the space because they are not comfortable with silence.
0:37, 1:39, 2:22, 2:45, 2:50, 3:20, 4:19, 4:56...
@@4400jman it’s still 300000% less than others who speak. You wasted so much time to make these time stamps you must have anger issues
That Guy's Daughter :- Dad I want an iPhone !
Steve Jobs :- Here it comes.
She too a customer though
I think I read it somewhere that he knew how addictive they were going to be to the public and never allowed her to have one.
Your comment is
"That guys daughter:-dad i want an iphone !
Steve jobs:-here is comes appeared on a redbull ad
Right after i was done watching this video i clicked on it ,scrolled through the comments and saw the same thing.
@Factual Fox ikr its like a drug
Factual Fox oh god shut up
Frickin’ brilliant response
Say what you want about Jobs and his many flaws, he was such an influential and brilliant luminary.
I learned quite a bit about being in my completely different business from reading his biography and watching his presentations
You didn't search for this, yet we're all here...
Yeah, it's called recommendations..
And ww love it
the algorithm is bringing people together haha
You didn't think this comment for yourself and yet here it is
even i don't know why i got this in my feed,i don't even have a apple???