The Ultimate Camera Brand Shootout | Canon R5 vs Sony A7SIII vs Panasonic GH6 vs Blackmagic 6K Pro
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0:00 - Intro
1:23 - Are We Biased Toward a Certain Brand?
2:01 - What Cameras Will We Be Comparing?
2:54 - What Lenses Are We Using?
4:05 - How Do You Afford This Gear And Education?
4:56 - Price
6:14 - Build/Layout
7:53 - Menu/Ease of Use
9:26 - Sensors
11:27 - Resolution/Frame Rate
14:10 - Canon R5 8K Problems
16:12 - Autofocus
18:38 - Dynamic Range
20:06 - Color Science
22:36 - Low Light Performance
23:50 - Sony's Secret Formula?
24:35 - Max ISO Test
25:10 - Stabilization
26:59 - Which Camera Is The Winner?
28:37 - Are We Switching To Sony?!?
29:50 - Want To Learn More?
30:49 - Bonus
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1. The Sony A7SIII DOES have a touch screen. It was a simple scripting mistake that wasn't caught before posting. Still would keep the same rank though.
2. The R5C was backordered, so we weren't able to get our hands on one for the comparison. We plan on using that for the next shootout.
3. The Sony does have a native ISO of 12,800 and would blow the others out of the water, but we wanted to see how it compared on their level of 10,000 ISO. (It Still Won)
4. The GH6 does have a "tripod mode" which does perform better when walking. But we just tested everything with their standard IBIS
5. For all of you Nikon and Fuji fans, we have content coming out for those as well. So don't worry. :)
just make sure you test the non recalled Nikons..D850/Z9,etc..hehehe
why not use the S1h which is the same price as the Canon and Sony and is Full frame and Panasonics top notch mirrorless camera for video at the moment...doesnt make sense mate .... at all
why dont you choose S1H from lumix?
@@sardanapalos true
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I think it’s worth mentioning that the BMPCC Pro comes with Davinci Resolve software. Which is crazy. And it has the best denoiser on the market. This is a proper cinema camera that is used on Film sets across the world. When you start shooting with a real cinema camera vs a hybrid you can’t go back. You get used to having everything for video right on the camera vs having to map the buttons for film.
Did you find a gimbal that you can use with it?
@@robreveryou can use any Ronin capable of carrying the weight, you just need a riser plate
Works with Zhiyun Crane 3s and Ronin RS3's. Don't Know why they didn't add that information afterwards in the bio. Seems misleading for those that are interested in getting into the Blackmagic ecosystem. As @chrisccain noted, each camera also comes with the full Davinci Resolve software free which is an amazing editing software with extremely powerful features.
BM6KP is by all means a stellar cinema camera for anything film. and a buddy of mine uses it with the riser plate and raveneye on the rs2 no problem. But, nothing beats the Sony as a workhorse in the videography realm. the capability to shoot a whole event, wedding, or anything really with the a7siii on gimbal and have sharp autofocus is like a comfortable armchair compared to lugging around one’s beloved cinema camera in that situation. mainly because of the weight, and the need for some type of follow focus. but when you go outside on a sunny day those internal ND’s are certainly nice.
For the Sony a7siii low light test, you should've set it to the 12,800 iso which is its second native ISO. It would've cleaned up the noise
Plus probably should test the fx3 over the 7sIII
@@men770d The fx3 and the a7s3 have the same exact sensor. There is actually no difference at all in image quality between the two. Anything regarding lowlight capabilities with the s3 applies to the fx3 as well. The only difference is the the exterior and the different features each have.
omg that drove me nuts! like how do you test that at 1/3 stop away from the 2nd native iso? and they seem like smart guys that know it too. weird.
@@sstteevveenn77 i know.
But they test the grip of all cameras. If it was the fx3, he would win this category too.
I love how people complain about the GH6 at 2000 but the a7iii is only decent at 12800
This was really just clickbait right? 30+ minutes wasted to pretty much plug their course? The testing seemed so out of whack that it had to be a piss take. Using different glass on each. Not knowing or using native ISO. Not understanding how properly set up autofocus or stabilization options to yield optimum results. Not understanding how rig the BM on a gimbal. Shooting in standard picture profiles to compare color science. On what planet does Sony or any other camera here have 15 stops of DR? And how was this verified? No understanding of crop factors? You "needed" 2 lenses for the GH6 to cover the focal range when the 1st lens clearly does just that? They even showed the equivalent focal range on the B&H screenshot contradicting was they were saying! Best self own was at 4:06 "If you buy one of these cameras and don't know how to use it, it's essentially worthless". Pretty much summed up the presenters abilities to properly test, compare, use and understand basic camera differences. If this was a joke, then haha. You got me.
Yes!!!! At first I was thought the "using different lenses is better" was going to be worse, but this video just kept getting worse. It's probably the best showcase of the dunning-krueger effect on CZcams. I was baffled by just how many mistakes there were. At the end I wouldn't watch their course even they were paying me instead of the other way around
Wow, I’m disappointed by the number of mistakes.
The A7S III does have a touchscreen….
Using ISO 10000 is a non sense when you have a dual iso triggering at 12800 in SLog 3.
Stabilization mode on GH6 was not the right setup. I did watch soles footage with or without and that’s far stable than A7S III.
Also talking about the R5 overheating issue without have a word for the R5C…is kind a strange.
But good video anyway 👍
Testing color science in the standard picture profiles instead of log...
Thankyou. The R5C was the elephant in the room...lol.
@@Aviciiz if you do post and grading you need to check both..
Lol touch screen
The dual iso at 12800 looks mushy. Sony is doing too much noise reduction.
For me , a huge factor is built-in ND filters. Nothing is more annoying than having to swap or add filters in the middle of a wedding or live shoot. Also, the BM camera is big so it does not overheat. That's why I like Blackmagic sometimes.
The Blackmagic 6K Pro does fit on gimbals and also has a dual native iso at 400 and 3200 which should be mentioned that produces great footage with very minimal grain and high dynamic range. Also, the 6K pro is a cinema grade camera. That is the reason why ibis and continuous autofocus are not present. It is meant to be used with a follow focus system like the tilta nucleus nano and m system.
It just seems a little silly that you didn't choose one of the 3 different Panasonic full frame options. The a7s iii is the same price as a S1H. Would have been a more apt comparison.
This is the same thing I was thinking, comparing a Micro four-thirds sensor to full frames
Agreed
Right?
They knew what they were doing. S5 would've competed well against the others and at $1500, would've made the choice obvious.
I was also here for the S1H comparison - the most underrated camera on the market!
The highest level of gh6 stabilisation is the "tripod mode" - it is deticated not to record movement - that's why your results were disappointing. Try the one stop lower mode and it will beat it's opponent's
I was wondering on the end chart how it was possible for any camera to beat the GH6 stabilization.
Panasonic provides one of the best Ibis.
You are correct that tripod mode is to take static handheld shot not moving
For real bro piss me off 😂
They're very Amateur to be honest should have done a little bit more research on each camera to get a real comparison
i said the same thing to myself. like how they really low-balled panasonic like that. ok..we get it...sony and canon..wooohoo. meat riders for those two brands but costs so much money and they use prime lenses!!!..expensive i love Panasonic. so wht if it isnt full frame..still gets the whole job done!!
$50 worth of Smallrig parts and you can get the BMPCC 6K Pro to ride on an Ronin S or RS2. Probably would have been worth mentioning that the BMPCC 6K Pro comes with Resolve, which has great stabilization and noise reduction capabilities. With all the other brands, you'd have to buy editing software...
Exactly! 👍🏻 I have it on RS2 and it works perfectly!
@@Belamarimages yeah I used it on a shoot recently and it was fine on the rs2
Doesn’t even cost 50 dollars. A 200g counterweight will suffice. It even works with RSC2 ! And yea, BMPCC paired with Da Vinci is the bomb for colour grading: DaVinci Wide Gamut already beats Adobe hands down.
Yes, love it on the Ronin S with counter weight and added handles plus the tilta wireless focus system.
@@Darrinwilliamsmedia What counterweight do you use for the BMPCC 6k? I'm thinking of getting one. I like the image better but i'm not sure how it would match up with my canon mk3 as a 'B' cam...
The 12-35 mm lens for Micro Four Thirds is the exact replacement of a 24-70 lens on Full Frame. The 2X crop factor of MFT is easy to convert. Just divide or multiply by 2 to convert from full frame to MFT. 12mm on MFT = 24mm on Full Frame. 35 on MFT = 70 on Full Frame. This should not have been an issue, or even confusing to people that know and understand crop factor. To purchase a 35-100 for this comparison makes no sense. It is a full frame equivalent of 70-200mm. Come on guys....
Yes, exact replacement for the focal lenghth and for luminosity (at f/2.8 both lenses), BUT the bokeh is not the same, because of the sensor.
Don't expect have the same depth of field (the depth of field of Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 is f/4 equivalent on full frame).
@@bogdanpopescu8406 Correct the depth of field would be different on a lens designed for a smaller sensor despite the aperture values being the same. I think for the purposes of this video it would have been fine. In real life situations this also makes smaller sensors better for landscape photography allowing for more light and a wider aperture while getting more in focus.
When it comes to dynamic range, you should have also considered that the GH6 has the dynamic range booster function that can be turned on and off. Also, this is why you should have done an S-series camera instead, since they boast 14 stops instead of 13.
I personally use GH6 and changed from Sony. I feel very comfortable about usability of GH6 and nothing change from Sony. And it has really detailed functions so I could customize all as i want to. As mentioned “easy to use” I know it might be big change from previous version but I think GH6 is worth to have it and great camera. Anyway I enjoyed to watch your reviews🙂
I use Gh6 and black magic 4K, very complimentary cameras for aby filming situation.
i am planning to buy a panasonic lumix model,, but im confused.. which one is better when it comes to lowlight video and battery life...the gh5 or gh6.. hope u notice my comment thanks..
@@mitchhifi9192 which is better?
@@user-by4tt6ur4r I prefer the GH6 over the bm4k better quality shooting
@@user-by4tt6ur4rGH6 as it gives ibis, internal raw pro res hq and looks just as cinematic as the bmpcc4k but with slightly more computational render. Not a big deal as it yields for more variants. Higher dr than gh5, cleaner. You need a vintage or cinema lens for it otherwise it won’t work on this camera for that cinema look that makes it obvious. No modern or native lenses is the best way to go if that makes sense. Lowlight is good on both but won’t beat the gh5s by a slight margin. Go for the GH6 👌
Why Nikon cameras are not there??????
The 6k not having continous AF is an automatic disqualification
19:50 "no shot looks bad" *shows an absolutely disgusting shot from the 6k*
I personally have no problem working with the Pocket 6K pro on my RS2. Im using relatively light wide angle lenses and it works a charm. Even with the raveneye+focus wheel attached. But I have to say I’m considering getting a Sony as my second camera since those two perfectly add to each other’s weeknesses.
And I’m wondering why they didn’t cover audio capabilities. I’m doing a lot of Interview shooting and being able to input 3 Mikrofons (or 2 on separate channels) is quite nice for the whole package that is the pocket 6K pro.
Just asking in IBIS are you turn on all of the ibis in GH6? it will only work if you want to have tripod like shoot(not moving like talking head), for moving subject you only need turn on ibis and e stabilization,because if you turn on all of them it will look weird for moving shot
I ended up going with the a7siii so far I love it the dual iso is insane, also loving yalls online class I’ve learned so much!! Thanks guys!
Quite good comparison!
I just think you guys didn't quite did the GH6 justice, but i get it that a quick comparison doesnt cover or makes to possible to notice some settings/features.
Especially when it comes to usability/easy of use and ibis.
Blackmagic recently activated their in camera gyro image stabilization on the 6K Pro thru a software update. You need Resolve 18 to use it and there is a slight crop factor but it works pretty well.
Give me Blackmagic over the rest all day long.
All it needs is auto focus.
Agreed. The fact that the camera is last just because it doesn’t have auto focus or IBIS is insane. Good luck on a real movie set. And you can absolutely use it for run and gun if you learn how to shoot properly.
@@sitebstudiosthe thing is everyone needs certain specs. If you are on movie sets then you’re right you should get the BM. But if you need some for run and gun no rig the other 3 are the better option. There is a rumor that BM is joint the L mount!! I hope the camera is a box camera or a GH6 style camera, big and beefy.
Bmpcc is a cinema camera. Auto focus just doesn't do justice for filmmaking. That's why there's follow focus and focus puller
@@sitebstudiosit has gyro stabilization. These guys missed it.
This is a great comparison, so thank you! I think the one of the most attractive of the bunch is the GH6: I mean think about it, Pani-boy is like $1000 less than the Sony, which would allow one to purchase the Sigma f1.4 trio with that extra cheddar. Also, how about the anamorphic desqueeze modes in Pani-boy (I am sure Blackmagic does too). I don't have any Panasonic cameras, but I have been researching the GH6, so I am not trying to take sides; I am just pointing out that a micro four thirds loser sensor is not doing so bad keeping up with the Big Boys. I have an Olympus and a Sony (I have had Full Frame and have APS-C Sony), and I can tell you if you want the best lenses for less money (and less size), Micro Four Thirds is the way to go...do love that Sony dynamic range though, it is legit.
Should have added a Panasonic s5 or s1h, those are some of the most feature packed camera .
Price wise, the S1H is too much for this comparison. This is comparing mid level cameras. The S5 probably would have been the better one to fit in there. Feature wise, it's about the same as the Sony and Cannon. But I think they went with the GH6 because of its dynamic range boost, and it has more features the all of them to make up for it. But do those features make up for it it? Depends on what you shot!
@@chrisklugh I mean the r5 is more expensive. The S1 is also great value with the last firmware.
You need to work around the autofocus in video unfortunately
@@amadei2 Depending on how you shoot, that could mean everything and nothing. lol
And SONY A1
@@SmanEDITS sony a1 wouldn't even make sense, why not add a RED camera at that point.
Where I live the A1 is double the a7s3
Nice to see another CZcams channel in Charlotte. I recognize that nature preserve as I film there often. Great job
^ This man is an apple celebrity and this comment got no likes 🤩 Cheers
The r5 has several modes in 4k that donot overheat, not just 4k24.
It has 4k 24 and 30 fps and oversampled 4k crop mode 24 and 30 fps that does not overheat.
Put a metabones on the canon and those two crop modes become just about full frame.
Just thought I would point that out.
Great video. I did some research and discovered that the Bmpcc 6K pro is fully supported and fits the DJI rack 3 pro
Nice video.
Just a few points -
1. Comparing the video off different cameras with different brands of lenses isn’t a fair test. Lenses affect the image most, more so than an adaptor.
2. BMPCC 6K Pro CAN BE used with a gimbal like RS2 / RSC2. It is left heavy so you simply add a Smallrig counterweight at the right side. In fact DJI Gimbal systems acknowledge BMPCC and its Raveneye is compatible as well.
3. Leica SL2-S should be somewhere in that lineup. It’s colour science is said to mimic RED while stabilisation is smooth.
4. It’s worth emphasising that unlike the other three, the BMPCC is a cinema camera from ground up: it does not have a DELETE button alongside stabilisation or continuous focus on purpose (RED or Arri do not have them also). It comes down whether convenience Vs test of skill matters for the consumer. We really can’t rank hybrid cameras (photo/video) on top in these categories although price points wise BMPCC is in the bracket.
I don't like Sony, but the A7SIII is probably the best all around camera,
but for film making, it has to go to blackmagic
for the beautiful footage you can get from it.
NIKON Z9 where???
You can balance the BlackMagic perfectly well on the Ronin, using counterweights for example.
Great comparison, respect that you saw the quality of the BlackMagic for cinematic work and also that each camera is fit and excels in a particluar purpose.
No it was garbage
Guys, gonna have to disagree with you on the Sony having better highlight detail than the Pocket 6k Pro. In post, if you grade on the Wide Gamut intermediate, and use highlight recovery, you will get 9 stops above middle grey (my tests with the camera) plus another 6.5 below. This is an advantage over any other camera on the market since Blackmagic has a patent in highlight recovery. If you're not getting this much latitude, then you're not quite doing it right in post. Would be happy to discuss this if you like
They are obviously not BMPCC users and only made an impression based on an off-the-bat experience. The true value of BMPCC is in the bundled software of DaVinci. Others have made the comment about this already. Hope they pick it up in their mistakes.
Any other camera except for the alexa...
Dude, you're not getting 15.5 stops of dynamic range from the pocket 6k pro LMAO
@@MarkusFinholt Yes I am. Wide gamut color space + HDR wheels color grading + highlight recovery gives you that much. You can see it in the zones graph: 16 stops of latitude.
@@leebrandt8597 16 stops of laditude on the IRE scale doesn't mean the stops are useable.
Absolutely fantastic video and analysis! I'm so glad to finally hear what I've been saying from day one that the Canon R5 and the R6 have serious overheating issues when shooting in the higher frames rates and codecs. This is why I've stuck with the R. My arsenal also includes the A7S3, GH5, and the new Olympus OM1.
No Nikon Z9???? It can't be because of its price since the Canon R5 costs 3900 USD. Could you do a wider camera comparison up to 6000 USD? Cheers
Could of used the Z6 or Z7 as well. Good to see I’m not the only disappointed one
Recently shot a short with the BMPCC 6K Pro on the DJI RS2. Yes it doesn't fit 100% on the Arca base plate, but luckily the latch closes just enough to keep it in place and the locking pin prevents it from coming off. Rigged it out with a Tilta Nano follow focus system, and the Raveneye transmitter, and we managed to pull off some incredible footage in a MMA ring. Total cost of the rig was about $5k - $6k AUD. We're so lucky as filmmakers to have the tools we have today. The fact that we can nit pick codecs and autofocus is a luxury. Happy filming everyone!
why fujifilm xt4 not included? 😉
10:54 Every sensor/lens is exactly what it is, you are just measuring it wrongly. The correct comparison is by angle of view.
Ultimate ?? Where is the nikon z9 ?
I picked up a blackmagic 6k pro last year. Whil it does fit on an RS2, I had trouble with the combo. Returned the RS2, and got a Crane3s, which handles it just fine.
The BMPCC6K DOES fit on a gimbal (Ronin RS2 & Ronin RS3 pro). Also, it captures ibis internally allowing for very accurate post stabilisation.
Hmmm weird, I've seen other video's about the GH6 & Sony IS and everyone says the GH6 is way best. Also their footage looked way more stable during movements. Maybe you missed something?
They used the tripod mode and walked with it. I wonder why it is shakey lol. In Richard Wong's demo, the GH6 + dual IS is crazy smooth you could walk easily up to 35mm equivalent.
You guys did a great job on this video. Easy to comprehend information with nice visuals to go along with it. I've been shooting on the Canon R5 for the past year and a half and I will say that gimmick or no, the 8K image is exceptional (as is the 4K HQ). But I have a commercial shoot coming up and I do not feel comfortable using the R5.
Get the R5C. It's amazing!! I don't know why they didn't included
@@osoriony
Because it's too good.
Thank you guys so much for this open-minded review about all these bodies I was honestly saving for R5 being a beginner at night event Cinematographer and photographer. I knew about the issues like overheating but I was sold by that 8k thing and like Justice said ''if you shoot an entire 8k project this isn't the camera you would go for'' and that's absolutely right. Being most at work during night hours and under no light or less light environment, I think Sony won my heart, and thanks a lot to you guys TFM really helped me step up my game as a videographer and that's just based on the YT videos can't wait to afford the course and see how good ill become.
Get an R6 instead if you like canon - its better in low light and almost half the price with the same tech
As others have already mentioned, you CAN put the BlackMagic 6K Pro on a Ronin S or RS 2. There have been videos about this for well over a year now.
Why you didn't add nikon Z9 ??
I bought both R5 and A7Siii at launch and kept both lol I am too back and forth so I just keep both and I don't have that "should I switch" issue :) Also canons new update just fixed the bs overheat shutdown and now I am shooting a lot more on it. Its now the prefect camera both stills and video!
I think it would have been better to compare with the r6, price wise and low light etc...
I'm confused why if you got equivalent lenses with the gh6, you still decided to push in with all its shots? I mean... 12-35 panasonic is the same as 24-70 on full frame, so why were they cropped in? Made me scratch my head a little bit...
You and I had the very same head scratching.
no one knows what they mean .... i m pretty sure if they watch it now they ll understand their mistake....
Guys you look,, out of space for 3 men 😂
Great vid. Only complain would be to test low light at 12,800 ISO, as that's where Sony's second base iso kicks in and the image cleans up incredibly. Would've def been a more realistic approach as it's usually where people shoot when they need that much sensitivity.
Hybrid Camera pricing and features categories for better shoot out comparisons ?
- Sony A7S3, Panasonic S1H, Canon R5C
- Panasonic S1/S5, Sony A74, Canon R6, Nikon Z6 II
- Blackmagic 6k Pro, Fuji-film X-H2S, Panasonic GH6, Canon R7C?
- Nikon Z9, Canon R3, Sony A1
Is this correct ?
Any other categories ?
How about Cinema Cameras ?
Nice video thanks as always for the info. FYI you can put the BMPCC6K on a Ronin by using a riser plate, which lifts and offsets the camera just enough to clear the side axis.
I would ask ONLY one question at the end... What camera did you use to record yourself and make this video?
Haha all of them!
@@matthuffman178 I mean the main talk head video
@@johnteki I believe it was the GH5S !
Probably a Nikon z6ii or z9, hehehehhe
I have flown the bmpcc6kpro on the DJI Rs2 for many many hours. Yes, it is a tight fit, but it does fit and the gimbal has no trouble flying it
2 questions: I posted this question on another one of your videos:
Would you recommend the blackmagic for a 4 camera video podcast?
If not what setup would you recommend?
This is incredible! You guys put so much effort into making this video! This content is so helpful! Thank you so much! Bless your heart for leaving the deleted parts at the end 😂😂 ❤❤
how about shutter roll? pretty sure gh6 be a dramatic improvement from the others yes?
There are already some Benchmarks on yt. And yes really big improvement.
i changed from sony to blackmagic and shot a whole tv-film with it on a shoulder rig (and stabilized it a little bit in post) and it worked quite well - but i had to film everything with 1/200 shutter speed
Stabilisation for Sony?? You need to learn how to use the GH6 first…
I know we're mentioning 6k Pro, probably due to the full frame option, but the 4k does well on a gimbal like the RS2 for fast paced shooting, though the lack of autofocus may be an issue for some. I prefer to pull my own focus.
According to other comments the 6k pro also has gimbals it can fit onto and I’ve seen them in other CZcams videos as well, and they are cinematic cameras (as it’s in the name of the camera) so autofocus isn’t really a thing becuase it’s cinematic, but I also prefer doing my own focus, just feels a tad bit more hands on
why no Nikon?
There's no Z9 in this comparison. So it can never be the ultimate shootout.
Dpreviews favourite video camera currently
Nikon for video? Nah
@@FilmMavericks why not? If its Jordan Drakes and Dpreviews best camera they've ever tested - it cant be bad
@@FilmMavericks Nikon for everything.
@@FilmMavericks maybe 3 years ago but Nikon have really come a long way with the z line.
Funny most reviews and video makers I’ve seen rate Panasonic the best for camera menus! Same goes for IBIS! What’s up guys ?
What a phenomenal review. I'll go with the Panasonic Lumix GH6 it is credible how much you get for that price.
I'm going to put it out there that I shoot weddings and the Blackmagic 6K Pro is SO much fun to shoot with at weddings! Manual focus is second nature to me so it's pretty easy to do on the large screen, but having ND filters built in has made shooting so much more fun. I do also have a Sony a7IV for gimbal work/autofocus when I need it (venue shots, real estate, speakers that like to pace around a lot), but the majority of my footage is captured on the 6K Pro. I would hardly say it's useless at weddings.
AGREED. been using the 6K rigged out for weddings and it allows me to be SO much more creative and get some really cool intimate shots over some basic non dynamic gimbal work. Sets you apart from the competition 🤘
I agree, I filmed weddings for over a year with the 6k Pro and for me is above any of the other 3 cameras compared in this video, despite the minuses presented!
I also agree, I’m shooting weddings with my 6k pro for a year now and I love it. Of course autofocus would be easier but I quickly learned to use manual focus. And there multiple options to stabilize the 6k pro
The BMPCC 6k fits perfectly on the Crane 3 s Gimbal…. No problems there…
you guys did the GH6 so dirty here. shame.
I was going to buy my camera in february but I have no idea what to buy and I was looking 3 of the cameras you guys used. This video is a miracle for me, Thank you so much!!
Where is Nikon z9? Thats is the best camera now to get
Absolutly awesome (and fair) review of each camera! Great Content guys!
Black magic is not in the same league as the dslr cameras.
CZcamsrs that try to sensationalize specs try to compare apples to oranges but the bmpcc shits on everything for the price.
Yes the image and the ease of recoding raw in the camera is outstanding.
And they didn’t mention the audio at all which is ODD for a video comparison. Having 2 XLR and a normal small Mikrofon input is so good for shooting Interview situations. Even the internal mic from the pocket is quite nice (In comparison).
Another point they didn’t cover was video output. In don’t know about the other 3 but not having 4k video-out on the pocket is a small issue for me personally since I’m working with virtual production recently. I would love a 4Kvideo out for live compositing.
Multiply the camera’s crop factor by the mm zoom of the lens to compare to full frame. So micro four thirds has a 2.0 crop factor, a 25mm lens has the same zoom as a 50mm on full frame.
Bummer you didn’t get to test the R5 with the latest firmware. Overheating is gone in 4k.
Blackmagic all the way 👌🏻
Lol complaining about the mft crop is dumb. Just buy the right lense! You cant expect to be everything the same as full frame, its a different system. Full frame is not the be all end all. For apsc or mft users the numbers of dull frame lenses is confusing.
yes it is very very dumb , i keep laughing while watching .
when thay say they're going 12-35 F2.8 , im like 'OKAY!'
but next thay said '' and another 35-100 '' i was like "?????????" dumb dumb dumb
Repent and receive life from Christ and be saved in Jesus mighty name amen.
Yea what’s up with the image comparison? Didn’t you get a Lens that would have an equal focal length with the other cameras……?
The Black Magic 6kpro actually works great on a Ronin S with a counter weight and added handles 💯🎥 add a tilta wireless focus and its a game changer.
It's strange they didn't do their research in this video. They could have even used a Glidecam for stabilization if they couldn't figure out the Ronin. 😀
I appreciate the effort in the video but your GH6 stabilisation test wasnt correct.
The GH5 would walk over the R5 and Sony and the GH6 is far superior. Using the 12-35 lens that GH6 would glide like it's on a gimbal.
Everyone be sleeping on Panasonic 🤦🏽♂️
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*NIKON Z9 HAS ENTERED THE CHAT*
also note - The difference in price between a Z9 and R5 is less than the difference between the GH6 and R5
Best Review by Far! Thank you for your extensive details. I am a Canon guy and wanted to finally upgrade to the Canon R5 but heard about the heating issues. Black Magic definitely seems beyond worth it however, I believe I am sold on the Sony A7 SIII. With all the events I've done previously I believe the Low Light feature will be a game changer. Thank you!
I'm pro Canon as well, but this comparison is confusing. They said that the overheating was only a problem when shooting in 8K. Which no one will use anyway. They seemed to hold Canon to a different standard because of the 8K feature. They should have just ignored the 8K marketing gimmick and stuck with how it performs at 4K 24 fps. Then again, Canon is the most expensive and should deliver on the 8K promise. Canon needs to drop the price of this Camera if it can't perform to the specs as promised. With that said, I'm still in the dark as to its 4K 24 fps performance over a long shooting day. Does it still overheat or not? They said that it didn't, but then at the end implied that it might.
its better if you use the lumix 10-25 1.7 for similar price of fullframe 24-70 2.8
The black magic 4k fits great on a gimbal and costs a lot less.
I have the LUMIX GH6. I love it for personal use. I used the BlackMagic 6k on a feature film recently and now I need internal ND’s
Rookie mistake not shooting the A7sIII in 12,800 ISO it is like butter! No other camera has that ability.
I live in Oklahoma, I run GH5’s for weddings, surprisingly they can run 4k/30 10 bit as long as the batteries last in 100 degree plus outdoor temps. Literally shot a wedding last weekend in 105 degrees and heat index over 120 for over 40 minutes… no temp warnings!
In my opinion as an R5 shooter that has worked with A7Siii footage and needs to crank out content that requires color grading, nothing beats the color science performance and ease of color grading like the R5. Consequently this allows for a greater range of error to recover in post
No battery comparison? That is worth looking into in my opinion. I have the BM6K Pro, and that thing will go through 1 battery per hour, even plugged into the Ronin RS2. I literally have 9 batteries for it, and go through most of them on a single wedding. That’s why I want to switch to an R6… maybe it’ll overheat, but I think it’d do fine with HD@60fps, which is what I normally need.
I follow several prominent channels that film weddings, real estate, etc on the BMPCC 6k Pro mounted on a medium size gimbal with excellent results. Overall a good presentation and review, but deff spend more time with a camera before judging it! Good work guys, keep it up
It was baffling when it didn't fit on 1 specific gimbal for them to suggest it is incompatible with gimbals in general.
The Sony has two native ISO settings. Regardless, for low light Sony has no competition. Sony is the all-around winter for those that want a run and gun video capturing camera with photo second. Panasonic has great skin color. Canon is good for getting that one shot at maximin resolution, but don't record at 8k constantly. BM is really meant for making films on a budget where you plan every shot.
I feel like these guys are just reading form spec sheets. Take dynamic range for example, I'm 99 percent sure that if they had properly tested these cameras, they wouldn't repeatedly advertise A7S III as having 15 stops of dynamic range while recording video internally, I've seen proper dynamic range test where BM beats the A7S III...
Great video 😀 Did you use a LUT for the Wedding shots, at 15.21"?
8:39 what the F, it DOES have a full touch screen
Also should've tested rolling shutter as well
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Thanks for the video, chaps. I think you should have featured the Canon R5C instead of the R5. It solves the problems within the R5 apparently. The R5 is basically history now. Cheers.
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Don't take it he already put the best course on CZcams...
I jus wanna support the channel. I love what they do here. But thanks for the heads up my brother 🙏🏼. Everyone may not be able to afford the $97. Making the education accessible at all levels, is highly appreciated by us all. Hopefully we can all begin to make money from our passions, and give back to those who helped us along the way. Thanks again my brother 💯🙌🏼
So you’re using the A7siii compared to the GH6? Wouldn’t it make more sense to compare it to the S1H? The GH6 is awesome for a micro 4:3 but the S1H is full frame.
You guys should have grabbed the Canon EOS R5 C. That's the true monster. I'm definitely planning on getting that one
Thank you for reviews for us. Sony S3 my dream camera, btw just join your course about a week.
It should be noted too that the BMPCC tracks gyro data and in Davinci Resolve (which is provided) and the gyro stabilization is amazing and very quick change in post
What do you think of the canon r5c?
26:14 - Which firmware did you use for the GH6? I believe in firmware 1.1+ they addressed the IBIS warping.
Can the Sony a75 film 4:3 4k for long periods of time...
I currently have the GH5, might upgrade to the sony next year...
gh5 good although would prefair 4:3 on 4k 30/25fp3 for ticktok 9:16 & youtube 16:9,
Awesome video :)