Collector's Market for Failed Video Game Consoles? -
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- čas přidán 28. 11. 2021
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I cant help but find the reaction from Ian to the Soundboard hilarious and I laugh even harder at the way it amuses Pat to torture Ian with it. Fantastic work!
The guy who does the Tommy Tallarico voice sounds uncannily like Retro Bird.
Haha, that’s who I think it is too!
Hey yo. Tommy Tellarico here. The Amico is going to be highly collectible in 20 years
The Tommy calls are just sublime! 😅
Stuff like the Amico and the VCS really aren't in the same league as stuff like the 3DO and the CD-I. The 3DO sold around 2 million units WW and the CDI was closing in on half a million units WW. Some people actually owned those things and they were released from huge companies. They had big marketing campaigns and took up shelf space in big box stores. Also, actual games worth playing came out on them. So there is at least some nostalgia for them from a moderately sized group and others might be interested in some of the games stranded on those platforms.
The Amico's games are mostly on other platforms already and the ones that aren't look like junk. It will be lucky to crack 10,000 units sold judging by the pre-orders and "physical" game sales and the VCS doesn't even have any original games and is basically dead already, isn't it? Who's going have nostalgia or care to collect them in the future? The couple hundred people who made shilling for Tommy their personality for a few years? I'm sure they'll already have one in their closest.
Best Tommy vmail to date. And the best thing is it writes itself, with his weekly real world antics.
The fast forward feature seemed goofy at first, but it might be cool to be able to just skip ahead on older games so you can experience levels you might not make it to otherwise.
The only collector for the future failed amico will be Tommy's great great great great grandchildren..but it'll be like ET and buried so they gotta dig it up
Tommy impersonator for president 👌
I love how the last thing we hear is Ian sighing
$10 for a R.O.B?!? Dang, I'll never get that lucky! I've decided to stop collecting NES since the prices have gone insane, but I still would love to come across a good deal on a R.O.B. and a Power Glove
Only have only seen one recently. It is dirty and missing all accessories. Price? $100 firm. Nope. And months later still there. Still $100.
$10 for a boxed ROB? Holy crap. A hobby store around here sold me a boxed VB with 5 games and AC adapter for $60 in the mid 2000's. It pays off to check out of the way places, or used to anyway.
I want a complete library of games for a system. The Amico is the easiest path.
As someone who owns 30 + consoles (I've turrned into Gamester 81 as I've gotten older. LOL). There is a huge difference between consoles like CD-i, 3DO, Atari Jaguar, etc, compared to Ouya, the current Atari VCS (it's only been out for a few months and it was dead out of the gate), etc, is that even a console like the CD-i had a market presence during the 90's (I remember watching those "Burn: Cycle" commercials on TV when the CD-i got rebranded as a game console during 1994 and Burn Cycle came free with the newly designed CD-i that looked more like a game console (the "450 model" which was small and had a flip cover for the CD tray... that's the one I've owned for years). I never owned a CD-i as a kid, but I remember seeing the commercials (the CD-i Burn Cycle commercial being the most memorable since I wanted to play that game) so there is a nostalgia factor there. Also, all the games are physical, so as long as I have the money I can easily buy up the GOOD CD-i games like Burn Cycle, The Apprentice, The 7th Guest, etc. Same applies to Atari Jaguar (I remember EVERY Jaguar commercial as a kid. Those Jaguar commercials were highly memorable, for better and for worse. LOL), the 3DO, etc.
The modern failed console do NOT have any of this. Ouya commercials? I'm 99% certain I NEVER saw an Ouya commercial mainly because they don't exist. I only heard of the Ouya through CZcamsrs talking about it, but to my knowledge there were NO commercials or ads of any kind. On top of this: NO physical games. The Ouya's online store shutdown a few years ago. Unless you decide to mod that thing, it's unusable in a natural way. Unless you mod it, it's a damn paperweight. The Ouya isn't just a dead console, it's a DEAD, DEAD console. I can still buy used games for a CD-i, Jaguar, 3DO, etc (which is why there is a market for these failed 90's consoles) I can't do that with an Ouya. All of this I typed out about the Ouya applies towards other failed modern consoles like the modern Atari VCS.
Finally... the Mattel Hyperscan. I haven't jumped into that console. Yeah, it has physical media. But it has some HUGE problems. Namely, you must have the games AND you must have the cards to get those games to fully work and trying to get all the cards is a HUGE pain in the butt if you don't buy them in bulk. It also doesn't help that the scanner on the Hyperscan has A LOT of problems (it fails a good number of times and you have to keep scanning till it works. And that's for a good condition Hyperscan, many of them have scanners that no longer work). I'll eventually get around to getting a Hyperscan, but only when I have enough money to get all the games and as many cards as possible AND a Hyperscan that works halfway decently all in one shot.
Some emulators have a fast forward button, and the recent ports of Final Fantasy 7/8/9 have a 2x speed function (but no rewind). I used the fast forward in a run of Chrono Trigger a lot.
Yeah, being able to go hyper mode during grinding while playing an old Snes/PS1 era rpg is a god send. Some of those games are ungodly slow to get into and out of a random battle so grinding takes forever. I'll never be able to go back to the original ps1 version of FF9. Having to sit through the camera sweeping across the battlefield at the beginning of every single random battle and the animations being half speed because the game ran at 15 fps. No thanks.
It’s handy for those unskippable cutscenes.
Ff12 zodiac age on switch . I used it all the last half of the game. I beated the very last hunt in 2hours at 200%SPEED because i dont want to spend 4 hours on that fight
I can understand the rewind feature in an emulated game, but how can you fast forward parts of a game you haven't played yet?
@@The90sGamingGuy it just plays it in fast motion. I used it to speed through enemy turns or spell/summon animations in JRPGs.
Ppl want the cdi and 3d0 because it was the golden age of video games. Most ppl heard of them but never even saw one in the wild.
I think people collect for the CDi because there's still no good emulator for the thing.
Yeah, the failed 90's consoles weren't made by a bunch of random nobodies with crowd funding campaigns trying to cash in on nostalgia. They were made by big companies, had marketing campaigns, sold in big box stores and some of them, like the 3DO, sold in the millions despite being failures. It's apples and oranges.
A lot of older games actually have a fast-forward feature in the form of stage select codes if you really want to skip that one annoying stage. For those that don't, Game Genie will often grant you that wish and two others.
It been a few years since to talk about disc rot, it was mostly about sega cd. Has your opinion changed since the problem of disc rot popped up in the wiiu? Also since the wiiu is newer do you think nintendo should do something about it like issue a recall or buy back ( much like Toyota did with trucks )
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This reminds me, there's an _art collective_ (for the lack of a better term) that recently released toy models of failed kickstarter products; Dead Startup Toys.
Their line-up included the Juicero, Jibo, 1LPC, CoolestCooler, and Theranos.
I can only hope to buy a very small footbath in the future to enshrine the Amico as it properly deserves.
What toy can you make out of Theranos? A toy blood test?
I would add a toy Smach Z and toy Aido if I was planning on making more.
The RMC thing is just a MiSTer with a redesigned board shape to put into a more "console" like box. I like RMC channel, but it's not enough to make me rebuy the MiSTer. Original is fine.
It makes more sense if you don't have one already and want a nice form factor and everything you need in one unit.
@@rsmith02 Agreed. If I wasn't already in the MiSTer game, I'd be eyeing this one pretty hard.
The Tommy guy should post his stuff to youtube. Its great,
Wait a minute, you mean scarcity doesn't necessarily lead to ever-increasing value? Don't tell that to Bitcoin bros.
Imagine seeing that line item in the budget. 4,500euros - _Cornhole_
ReviewTechUSA recently watched your video on the Battle Tanks stolen art in one of his livestreams. And he tore it to shreds (the game that is). His opinions really echo yours and admits you were on point with them.
voicemail tommy just gets more precious every week
I’m waiting for my Ouya to rocket to the moon.
I think one reason there won't be much of a collectors market for these modern failed digital only consoles is beyond the console itself there is nothing to collect.
Like there is probably nothing on an Ouya that you can't play elsewhere. For awhile there was interest in it as an emulation solution but there are better options now.
@@baysidejr Outside of the biggest completionist collectors and modders I can't imagine any interest.
Can't wait for some modder to play Doom on Amico.
@@JZekis At a solid 15 FPS, no less!
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 You say that, but have you seen Battle Stanks or Astrosmash? Those are flat 2D games that are causing the wheels to slip on the Amico. Plus the latency is _highly noticeable,_ not good for a game like DOOM.
@@XanthinZarda I bet any modder who would tool around with an Amico probably has more development experience than most of the developers who made Battle Tanks and Astrosmash for Amico.
Lol the Mattel diaperscan. I remember seeing ads for that in the early 2000s. I may have seen those at the thrift store a few years later.
I'm pretty sure that the final fantasy 7 and 9 port for the ps4 has a fast forward feature.
Though not exactly 'fast forward', I'd say that the es versions of games on Nintendo switch online, that allows you to be at a farther point in the game, or powered up, it's quite close to it. I mean, you can start the first legend of Zelda with more hearts, a better sword and clothes.
What was going on at 4:45 ? I was high and got caught up in a laughing fit for a minute. 😂
since we're talking about Ian's most hated sound clip I thought I'd share my favorite, SEAAALLLLLLLLLLLLEDAH
As much of a "success" it has been the Nintendo Switch is the only Nintendo game system (handheld or console) that I don't own.
No.....keep BIG,BIG NEWS !!!!!!
My 2nd fav only to SEAL.....!!!!!!!!
Ian , pat has no control of the soundboard. He doesn't know what makes him do it, it's not him 😂😂
Thank you, Ian!
Atari 5200 has a relatively high price target.
I considered buying the new Atari system but after seeing the price tag i passed. Heck i even entertained the thought of getting a 3DO about eight years ago.
WTS Boxed Ouya kickstarter with replaced controller that no longer had buttons that got stuck under plastic shell.
Big big is my favorite sound byte
6:45 I’m dying to know where the *_WHAT⁉️_* originated from (Pat’s reaction to Ian admitting he never played the GTA trilogy
Never get rid of the BIG BIG news soundboard clip!
9:41 the guy was playing 1943 the old plane game on an emulator and was using the rewind function when he messed up in the game 🤣
I'm convinced most of these people asking the questions are on something.
Oh I absolutely believe that if some Amico prototypes end up out and about people will pay a lot to get one for bragging rights. Not a whole lot, mind, but maybe inside of $1000.
Seeaaalllleeddd!!!!
Several emulators do have fast forward functionality.
Yeah I was going to say the same thing. It helps when grinding in rpg’s.
Do you mean speeding up emulation? I wouldn't call that "fast forward," which implies some sort of time travel hijinks.
@@PatTheNESpunk Fast Forward is popular for getting through unskippable cutscenes faster, or other unplayable or barely playable filler. Like MC 808 said, you can get through RPG battles (particularly turn based battles that will wait for your input) a lot faster, speeding up grinding.
@@PatTheNESpunk Yeah, it's just that it's called "fast forward" in emulators.
A rare Monday upload.
Tons of failed horrible systems that are worth big money
100 Gecs is awesome!!!! Money Machine is my favorite!!!
I would get an Amico as soon as they hit the garbage bin just so my original Model 2609 can laugh at it.
Embrace the meme alright Ian! Hey! Mr. Driller that sounds like one i might have to get! Great show you guys, if i open my own store Tommy that if i opened i would call it “shOOters”
7:23 lmao
You're pretty cool
"Creeps" just be creepy
Lol Castle Ferguson
well, remember switch didn't have pedometer or street pass, so as a replacement of a 3DS wasn't an idea.
#TomTom 13:13
Isn't the Gizmondo worth a lot nowadays?
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 I might have misremembered seeing it go for more then, atleast its specs was more current when it came out if we were to compare it with the Amico
Lol has anyone proven that ISNT Tommy? XD
Aye 100 Gecs
The fast forward function a.k.a. Overclocked FPS would especially be useful on _Earthbound_ when you have to stand under the waterfall for literally three minutes
Atari 2600 was extremely popular. But no one wants them today. The generation that had those grew up and put them down. So thus no real fan boys like Nintendo and sega
Lmao... WhAt AbOuT a FaSt FoRwArD fEaTuRe?1??1?
He thought he was being very thought provoking. 🤭😆😆
Forusre however 99.99999 percent of the people aren’t going to care
btw they cant responde with anything bad about the amico, only the pizza story (which has nothing to do with gaming)- thats not good.
Apples' Pippin 🙄🤑🤣
Shut it down
Nintendo failing is just a beautiful dream.
Yes....pizza throwaway joke.....clearly this podcast doesn't have coast to coast pizza intel working round the clock....that would be silly.... *nosetap*
Can't believe Ian didn't say to remove SEEEALLLLED.
Sorry Pat, that joke has never been funny. ever. and its not even one of those non-jokes that eventually becomes funny. it just remains annoying and unfunny forever.
My Twitch chat says otherwise.
I'm getting an Amico💯💯💯
This is the third time I ever looked up Pat the NES punk.
The first time was about five years ago (I think he did a collaboration with a channel I watched). I thought he was milquetoast and moved on.
The second time was the 2018 Blizzard scandal. I had fun reading the comments ripping on two manchildren pretending to be grown-ups and moved on.
Today, after seeing a video mocking the aforementioned, I scroll through the videos and laugh as the viewer count never reaches the six figures as it used to and rarely reaches even 20k.
I don't even like Diablo, but this guy is so bland, so basic, so generic, it's offensive. The fact ANYBODY calls into this show, for a response from these rubes is an astounding example of how droll a human being can get without having a mental disorder.
Anyway, hope to see these guys again in another three years or so and I hope they enjoy the tenth of a penny in ad revenue you got from me. This was worth every cent.