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  • NES games too hard for younger folks (?), Neo Geo arcade selections, strangest arcade experience, and more!
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  • @PatTheNESpunk
    @PatTheNESpunk  Před 3 lety +5

    Who wants to arm wrestle?! What Neo Geo games would you put in your potential cabinet? Are NES games too difficult for the kids?
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    • @thebeasthatfeasts
      @thebeasthatfeasts Před 3 lety

      Arm Wrestling is on the rise as a professional sport. Look up the "WAL". lol

    • @emboop2346
      @emboop2346 Před 3 lety +1

      Nes games are hard ..worth the difficulty though on most games

    • @thebeasthatfeasts
      @thebeasthatfeasts Před 3 lety

      @Orwellian Future Is Now Im not into it, but you have peaked my curiosity, whats the title? lol

    • @loganholmberg2295
      @loganholmberg2295 Před 3 lety

      Some old Nes games and quite a few Sega games are IMO. They were either no long enough or were poorly "optimized" and have sections that are brutally difficult. Its why cheat codes became such a popular things in game magazines IMO.
      Notorious 8 bit ones that come to mind that I could never finish were TMNT and Battletoads as I'm such you'll agree? Also Alex Kid if you picked up the skate board. Picking up that item in the game was a death sentence for me. But then you had games like Super Mario Brothers and Sonic that were not quite as difficult and with a little practice you could explore and finish which totally lended to their popularity as anyone could play them with pulling their hair out at certain sections of the game all the time.
      And on Genesis Streets of Rage 3 and Contra Hard corps come to mind. I played the Japanese versions of these 2 years later and they are way more enjoyable to play. I do not know why Sega of America had such a hardon for turning up difficulty other than to pad playtime. All I had for SNES was Street fighter, Starfox. Final fight and RPGs so I can't speak to the SNES to much.

    • @liamboyle6345
      @liamboyle6345 Před 3 lety

      I think the addition of save states alleviates any difficulties with hard nes games. I think it’s mostly the graphics. Honestly I haven’t played nes in months.

  • @orinjayce
    @orinjayce Před 3 lety +18

    I taught a kindergarten class how to play classic Megaman games during between class breaks to improve their concentration and reasoning. Some of them can clear a stage or two. A few just rush in, using one button at a time though. It just takes a good attitude and patience to be good at most "hard" games. Kids haven't changed much, just their environment has.

    • @takigan
      @takigan Před 3 lety +7

      If I'd had an elementary school teacher that brought video games to school as part of a lesson, I'm pretty sure I'd have remembered that teacher for the rest of my life as the "coolest teacher of all time".

    • @yotvvan2472
      @yotvvan2472 Před 3 lety +1

      What thats a thing now when i as in kindergarten we did not even have any computers the teachers knew nothing about video games.

    • @orinjayce
      @orinjayce Před 3 lety

      @Orwellian Future Is Now they are only 6. So cause and effect for them requires a lot of reasoning. Also sorting boss weaknesses, the same.

    • @D-Fens_1632
      @D-Fens_1632 Před 3 lety

      I had an elementary school teacher in the 80s who called all video games "Intendo."

  • @chriswaters834
    @chriswaters834 Před 3 lety +13

    As somebody who grew up with an NES, I can admit that far too many NES games were too cryptic.

    • @watata1t
      @watata1t Před 3 lety +3

      Some where localization issues with the "Engrish" and early 90's equivalent of google translate, infamouse example would be Castlevania 2 Simons quest

    • @undergrounddojokeyboardcag701
      @undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 Před 3 lety

      @@watata1t Developers also expected you to figure things out. There was far less hand holding with old games.

    • @DrEarthwormRobotnik
      @DrEarthwormRobotnik Před 3 lety +1

      @@watata1t Simon’s Quest is just as cryptic in the Japanese version. The NPCs just flat out LIE to you in that game.

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever Před 3 lety +26

    Back when NES games were new, there wasn't the abundance of games we have now (if you ignore the trash), so they had to last for long.

    • @quezcatol
      @quezcatol Před 3 lety +2

      Yes just look at how many mario/zelda/metroid you can play today and you wont ask why the kids doesnt wanna play the NES anymore- sure mario 3 is still one of the best 2D games ever made, but thats 1 nes game.

    • @Zazzaro703
      @Zazzaro703 Před 3 lety +5

      They also were made hard to lengthen playtime. Imagine if you spent $60 (and that’s $60 in the late 80s which was a lot more during that time) on Castlevania and one shot all the levels beating it in an hour or two.

    • @quezcatol
      @quezcatol Před 3 lety +4

      @@Zazzaro703 yepp, you had to "master it" and it could take a few weeks and then you could basically "speedrun it".

    • @midimusicforever
      @midimusicforever Před 3 lety +2

      @@Zazzaro703
      Yeah, that was my point.

    • @yotvvan2472
      @yotvvan2472 Před 3 lety +3

      Yea the games are technically short but i could not beat most of them even after years so they seemed huge.

  • @ColonelSandurz
    @ColonelSandurz Před 3 lety +15

    "I dont want the graps, I want the snacks"
    What a line. XD

  • @no_nameyouknow
    @no_nameyouknow Před 3 lety +16

    Depends on the game and the person of course. Some of those games were too hard for me as a kid too, but I had no choice. So I played them again and again until I learned how to play them.

    • @JohnSmith-yd5wq
      @JohnSmith-yd5wq Před 3 lety

      And the controller especially when playing roms

    • @TheRelen222
      @TheRelen222 Před 3 lety +1

      @Orwellian Future Is Now I kind of agree. Not all retro games are equal though. Some of them are still very good and playable. Some were pretty bad, both then and now.

    • @ostiariusalpha
      @ostiariusalpha Před 3 lety +1

      LOL! Those memorization heavy, "unfair" game mechanics are their very own genre now, and a fairly popular one at that.

  • @dann6065
    @dann6065 Před 3 lety +18

    I just listened to a older podcast where Ian says he REGRETS buying the wonderswan handhelds all the different types he had hahaha

    • @Lordgenome76
      @Lordgenome76 Před 3 lety +1

      Damn, Ian BTFO. Lol

    • @BigSnipp
      @BigSnipp Před 3 lety +3

      Breaking news: Man changes opinion.

    • @opaljk4835
      @opaljk4835 Před 3 lety +3

      BigSnipp shocking, right? This is the biggest scandal that the media just glossed over. Of course.

    • @BigSnipp
      @BigSnipp Před 3 lety +2

      @@opaljk4835 I should admit I''m a fraud too. I used to not like ketchup on my scrambled eggs.

    • @opaljk4835
      @opaljk4835 Před 3 lety

      BigSnipp we are all hack frauds

  • @dongeraci8599
    @dongeraci8599 Před 3 lety +12

    A lot of NES games are too hard for adults.

    • @Rando1975
      @Rando1975 Před 3 lety +3

      Unfortunately true. I was in my teens when the NES launched. I picked up a NES mini a few years ago and I'm terrible at most of the games now.

    • @vintagegamer695
      @vintagegamer695 Před 3 lety +1

      I think it also depends on the game in question as well as the player. When I was a kid, Zelda 2 was so hard. But now that I'm older I can beat it.

  • @JonDGAF
    @JonDGAF Před 3 lety +6

    That's why NES games were so much fun and I always go back to playing them. I loved the challenging games, I think some of todays modern games are much more difficult with tons of crazy menus and upgrade paths and 50 different button controls to do this and that. NES games were simple but challenging and I really miss that aspect in a lot of todays modern games.

    • @JonDGAF
      @JonDGAF Před 3 lety +1

      @Lassi Kinnunen 81 I agree.

    • @rainehappy7097
      @rainehappy7097 Před 3 lety +3

      Back when Capcom and Konami were household names.

    • @JohnSmith-yd5wq
      @JohnSmith-yd5wq Před 3 lety +1

      The controller you use matters A LOT more when it comes to PC and OR emulator. ESPECIALLY fighting games

    • @JonDGAF
      @JonDGAF Před 3 lety +1

      @Lassi Kinnunen 81 Yeah I remember those, it was a plastic overlay that would go over the keyboard....old school. And yeah a lot of old NES games were about memorization, Mega man is a classic example of that, once you knew the boss attack patterns you had it down.

  • @liverush24
    @liverush24 Před 3 lety +4

    I have an arcade story to share.
    Back in '92, some of my dead beat friends spent all of their free time down at an arcade in the town centre, and as a result they had become very friendly with the woman who ran the place. She was in her early sixties and only an employee at the arcade, where she had worked since the '80s, the place was actually owned by a fella who also owned the nightclub upstairs. It was a long narrow arcade, with the entrance at one end and the private quarters for staff at the other. She used to let some of the regulars use her private kitchen facilities in the back of the building. She would make them a tea or coffee and they would make her one, etc.
    Anyway, one of the regulars somehow got hold of a master key, apparently it was just lying on the floor somewhere. This key allowed rapid access to the coin compartments located at the bottom front of all the fruit machines and some of the video games. Soon after they realised what they actually had, the stealing started. Every time she ( the manageress ) left her booth to go to the kitchen or toilet, the regulars would spring into action. It was like a military operation as they swiftly passed the key around between eachother and all of the machines were simultaneously emptied. By the time she returned, everything looked completely calm and normal. Time & time again this happened for two or three months! Unbelievably.
    You would have thought that a drop in revenue would have been noticed, but apparently not.
    Then one morning, she went off to the back of the premises as usual, and, as usual, the operation sprang into action...but on this occasion something unexpected happened.
    As all of the coin doors were open at front of all the machines, and as the regulars were furiously scooping coins out as fast as their hands would allow, the front door of the arcade opened, and who should walk through it, the owner. He almost never turned up there, even though he was upstairs at his club most days, but here he was. As you can imagine he was fucking fuming and they all got banned from their favourite hangout for life. They are lucky that he didn't call in the police. He roughed a couple of them up a bit and then told them all to fuck off!
    But witnessing the thieving happening was quite an experience, because they were so fast & organised. Actually I used to get quite anxious watching it, even though it had nothing to do with me.

    • @GD-tt6hl
      @GD-tt6hl Před 3 lety +1

      I lived in a resort area that had an arcade every block. One arcade had a change machine and I somehow figured out that if you put in 1 quarter into the slot, three quarters would come out. I went home with full pockets.

    • @liverush24
      @liverush24 Před 3 lety

      @@GD-tt6hl Free money! Nice.

  • @cj694x2
    @cj694x2 Před 3 lety +2

    NES games usually require patience, determination and perseverance to complete. Modern games don't require any of that, just lots of time.

  • @hamstrungharry259
    @hamstrungharry259 Před 3 lety +15

    man couldve bought a Virtual On cabinet for 500 bucks in 2014. Messed up that one.

    • @rainehappy7097
      @rainehappy7097 Před 3 lety

      @@almostliterally593 Dreamcast has one too. There's even a twin stick for it.

    • @deadpool3982
      @deadpool3982 Před 3 lety

      @@almostliterally593 or Yakuza Kiwami 2

  • @YodaPagoda
    @YodaPagoda Před 3 lety +3

    A friend of mine and I played the hell out of Samurai Showdown...excellent game, we discovered new things all the time.

  • @officespace7777
    @officespace7777 Před 3 lety

    One of the strangest arcade experience's I had was...
    I was playing pac man around 1985. Some guy came up with a quarter with a string attached.
    He used the quarter and pulled it in and out of the slot, and gave himself 50 credits.

  • @Clay3613
    @Clay3613 Před 3 lety +1

    My strangest arcade experience was getting bullied off Operation Wolf while at a hotel while on vacation in Williamsburg. My damn parents were no help.
    How can you not include Metal Slug in your Neo Geo Cab?

  • @IkeFoxbrush
    @IkeFoxbrush Před 3 lety +1

    Some NES games are very cryptic (looking at you Castlevania II), but in other cases you just have to read the manual. For example, how many people would figure out that you can switch between the turtles in TMNT without the manual? In The Legend of Zelda, one of the goals is to find Ganon's lair and the manual tells you so, but without it you'd just be running around cluelessly.

  • @justinquarantine
    @justinquarantine Před 3 lety +3

    It's crazy how some of the older games feel alot harder and give me more trouble now then they did back then.I get why it's like that but it still never fails that at some point I say outloud how the hell was I good at this!

  • @brandonkick
    @brandonkick Před 3 lety +3

    I don't think that NES games are "too hard", compared to modern games. Some modern games are downright brutal. I think the "overall" difficulty of older games (especially NES games) is fairly higher on average though, compared to modern.
    My strangest arcade memory is when I was with my grandfather who lived in pittsburgh. We want to this big mall, not sure which one, but I found an arcade in there and we were playing. He left to go look at something else while I wanted to stay and play. I found a machine that was accidently left open and I found (being young and not knowing I could just flip the coin switch) that I could just put my quarter in, it would fall to the ground, and I could keep doing it. I probably put like 8 or 10 credits on and was playing it (dig dug I think), when a "rent a cop" came over. It was a girl, that I remember. She asked me how many times I ran my quarter through and instead of lying I said, just twice.. it fell to the ground and I tried putting it back in but it kept falling. I was scared shitless... thinking I was going to the big house. She said, OK.. I'll have to write you up for that. I had no idea what that meant. She disappeared for a few min, and out the door I went.
    I also remember I made a friend there. He was "around" during the incident, but I was the one who "got caught". We were playing games together. I remember he ran into me else where at the mall, and he was like "hey, they want to talk to you back there". I said... "Ok". Found my grandfather and left.... I was shitting my pants like the whole way back to his house! Damn. All over two dollars worth of dig dug free play!

  • @rachelandryan
    @rachelandryan Před 3 lety

    In the early 90s me and my brother and friends used to go to a games group.
    We used to have league tournaments with other groups in the area, playing Super Gun and Neo Geo games such as Street Fighter 2, Fatal Fury, and a local favourite, Soccer Brawl.
    My four desert island Neo Geo games:
    Soccer Brawl
    Garou: Mark of the Wolves
    Samurai Showdown 2
    Viewpoint

  • @PeterMasalski93
    @PeterMasalski93 Před 23 dny

    I tried playing my childhood games as an adult, and it's a lot easier than I remember it. Now you can even watch a 5-minute video to know all the strategies to pass levels and kill bosses with ease.

  • @hjalmarjohnson5846
    @hjalmarjohnson5846 Před 3 lety +1

    My regret is large- I literally *gave away* my old SNES and games to a kid I worked with back in 2012-ish. Donkey Kong country trilogy, chrono trigger, F-zero, and a couple others. Couple years later I started "collecting" and saw the prices on some of the stuff I gave away. Oof.

    • @hjalmarjohnson5846
      @hjalmarjohnson5846 Před 3 lety

      @@frankretro937 Damn. If we only knew then what we do now, huh?

  • @WaysideWade
    @WaysideWade Před 3 lety +8

    Over the Top with Pat Contri! 🦾

  • @nicholaswinebrenner5164
    @nicholaswinebrenner5164 Před 3 lety +2

    I won a full Space Invaders arcade machine in a raffle. I used to play it. It does not work anymore. It's still at my parents place.

  • @fergalstackstreams
    @fergalstackstreams Před 3 lety

    Best Arcade experience was at Disney World. There was a glorified babysitting service that would take the kids for a few hours at night so the parents could go out and do adult things. It was themed like Neverland from Peter Pan, with each section of the building being something fun, like Skull Rock was a book nook, the Mermaid's Lagoon was a theater, and the pirate ship was an arcade with all machines free to play. And that's pretty much where all the 7-9 year boys were glued to for the entire night.

  • @GD-tt6hl
    @GD-tt6hl Před 3 lety +1

    I was playing mortal kombat 3 in my local arcade against the computer. Someone walks up and without a word puts in money to play against me. (Kind of a rude thing to do not to ask, not a major slight as this was the height of player vs player in the arcades) So I was pretty good and I picked sub zero. I proceed to beat him handley. I beat him without blocking so I did the sub zero friendship of a snowman. The guy doesn't even look at me and hasn't looked at me. He rears back and flat out punches the screen as hard as he can. I just sat there stunned, like bro. And he walked away to never be seen again.

    • @silveredgrunion7196
      @silveredgrunion7196 Před 3 lety

      Spoiler: the mystery man turned out to be a future version of the player trying to come back and correct the timeline. In the original history the player stayed too long at the cabinet and missed his chance at true love. Having broken the screen with a punch, he freed his younger self to get a frogurt at the mall food court, meet Allie (a plucky but sensible girl who worked at the gap) and they fell in love. The future self returned to a home full of kids, no video games, and all the happiness he could handle
      Ugh, what a nightmare...no videogames? way to Biff Tannen your timeline bruh

    • @Rando1975
      @Rando1975 Před 3 lety

      WTF?! I never asked when adding a credit to play against someone. The arcade's a public place, so I have a right to play the game as much as anyone. But woah, I've never seen anyone react to losing that violently before. Good for you though, for beating him handily. I always loved it when someone would challenge him and I'd crush them.

    • @GD-tt6hl
      @GD-tt6hl Před 3 lety +1

      @@Rando1975 in certain games, for example street fighter 2, people would attempt no loss runs in order to get a secret ending. In my arcade it became an etiquette thing to ask to play 2 player after that. As it was only slightly rude as people weren't aware of such things. The kid in front of me in high school said he would beat me with "that green guy" caused me to chuckle.

    • @GD-tt6hl
      @GD-tt6hl Před 3 lety +1

      @@Rando1975 and I played on my varsity football team as a sophmore and wore my letterman jacket frequently at the arcade as was the style at the time. So some random kid wasn't gonna start a fight with a big dude.

  • @TechWithSean
    @TechWithSean Před 3 lety +1

    NES games are too hard for me to go back to most of the time, and I grew up with them...

  • @pictonomii3295
    @pictonomii3295 Před 3 lety +4

    Zoomer here. The reason a lot of people my age are turned of by video games from before the 5 generation of consoles isn't because of the way they look. The fact that so many indie games go with a retro style should make that obvious. IMO, the problem is the fact that the difficulty of a lot of these games feels largely artificial, either by hampering your movement or by not letting you continue where you left off after running out of lives. You brought up Castlevania, and by a strange coincidence. I gave the Anniversary Collection on the Switch a try last week. While each "level" (ie; group of stages) has many checkpoints, you are still booted to the beginning when you run out of lives, and bosses don't have checkpoints before them, so you will almost almost always have to fight bosses without full health. Many other games don't even let you continue after running out of lives. While save scumming can alleviate this to a degree, it generally isn't very fun in super hard games like Castlevania, where an unskilled player like myself would need to save every few seconds. A game like MegaMan is much more appealing, where even a noob can get by only limiting themselves to saving at checkpoints.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 Před 3 lety

      I grew up with these games but wouldn't want to play many 8-bit games without savestates. I recently played through Ninja Gaiden and StarTropics and neither would be pleasant if I had to keep repeating the same sections (though with Gaiden I only used them at the level start so it was more like a stage select for me).

  • @Jp-gc6bh
    @Jp-gc6bh Před 3 lety +1

    I’m 25, I use to play nes games and still do. They’re hard ass balls lol

  • @PogueSquadron
    @PogueSquadron Před 3 lety +13

    A lot of hard NES games are manageable but expect too much out of you. Would Blaster Master be as difficult if it had a more forgiving continue system? It turns a fun challenge into a chore.

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey00 Před 3 lety +1

    Honestly, quite a few of the NES games I owned I could never beat because they were too difficult. Also, some of those old games WERE full of cryptic BS. I mean you can bag on kids for not wanting to play because they are ugly but I very much remember as a kid we did the exact same thing with movies that were black and white. You beat a lot of those hard games because that's all you had and kids these days have so many FREE options that are compelling that even if they don't have the latest game they want they have options.

  • @wasmadeinthe80s
    @wasmadeinthe80s Před 3 lety

    My Neo-Geo cab line up: Twinkle Star Sprites, Baseball Stars 2, King of Fighters '98, Wind Jammers

  • @ThatPrettyBMF
    @ThatPrettyBMF Před 3 lety

    JT from Denver "presumed" neither that Pat would not want to eat food nor that Ian wouldn't want to learn jujitsu. He merely offered one experience to Pat and another to Ian. Silly Pat.

  • @BryanX64
    @BryanX64 Před 3 lety +4

    "and also..."
    Pat: "whoops!"
    Damn the way he cut that guy off was cold blooded lol

  • @The90sGamingGuy
    @The90sGamingGuy Před 3 lety

    I grew up playing SNES with some NES time sprinkled in between. I would say TMNT, Super Mario 2 (Japan), Home Alone are hard games even still to this day.

  • @superdupergaming8406
    @superdupergaming8406 Před 2 lety

    I started off playing Super Mario 1 & Super Mario 3 when I was 4-5 years old. Having a difficult tasks to complete especially when kids are young, I would expect it to strengthen their troubleshooting skills and their ability to take a losses.

  • @zackschilling4376
    @zackschilling4376 Před 3 lety

    I dont know about consoles, but if you ve ever played any Capcom games on MAME, it has that "WARNING" that scrolls by after it starts up and says something like this machine is for use in X country and its illegal to play it anywhere else. Dont know if that was ever really enforced, but thats just what popped in my head when the Imported N64 in the arcade was mentioned.

  • @SumerNivek
    @SumerNivek Před 3 lety +1

    Hey Pat...I also love the first Sengoku! Spent many a token/quarter to beat that game at an Aladdin's Castle back in the day.

  • @moonman0506
    @moonman0506 Před 3 lety +3

    Man that ninja turtles nes was the second game i ever owned and man... I remember that electric underwater level i could never beat ... That game was too hard lol

    • @PatTheNESpunk
      @PatTheNESpunk  Před 3 lety +7

      The underwater stage is not that hard!

    • @joea1007
      @joea1007 Před 3 lety +2

      People finding this part of the game hard was the biggest surprise for me when I got the internet. With any patience at all you can clear the zone with next to no damage.

    • @moonman0506
      @moonman0506 Před 3 lety

      Guys i was 7 with no game experience

    • @deezy81
      @deezy81 Před 3 lety +1

      Earthworm Jim down the tubes is the sixteen bit equivalent of that.

  • @theswapmeetflea
    @theswapmeetflea Před 3 lety +1

    I remember when my brother bought a Street Fighter 2 Champion ed arcade but this was a hacked version , my also 1st time being introduced to the mod/hack versions of street fighter as other arcade games, every character was able to throw projectiles , the best was Balrog , his fast punch mixed with hadoukens was a force to be reckoned with.

    • @deezy81
      @deezy81 Před 3 lety

      Sounds like rainbow edition.

  • @mrmacross
    @mrmacross Před 3 lety +1

    Mainstream games have trended easier since the 1980s. I feel a large part of it was that an NES game cost between $40 and $50 around that time ($40 in 1988 is about $90 today, after inflation), so they had to justify the price tag of an otherwise-short game by making it sufficiently hard so that you don't beat it in 2 hours. There also wasn't the hardware capability to support aggressive hand-holding. A developer dedicated a few kb to instructional text and let you rely on Nintendo Power for anything else.
    Anyway, it's not totally different to how different TV shows and movies back then were compared to modern counterparts. Entertainment doesn't stay static.

  • @akathesk
    @akathesk Před 3 lety +2

    I mean when you have modern games handing out participation trophies? Yes, yes old nes games will kick their asses

  • @ControlDenied307
    @ControlDenied307 Před 3 lety +1

    How can “3 lives and then Game Over” possibly appeal to kids raised on Minecraft, Call of Duty, and Fortnite?

  • @greenmetalbox1719
    @greenmetalbox1719 Před 3 lety

    My kids have Switch, and still play the crap out of retro, including things like Star Wars Arcade, Dig Dug, Street Fighter 2: CE, most NES games even some 2600 games... a current one that's super popular are 3D Adventures of World Runner, Little Samson, Super Mario Land 2, Contra, Ninja Gaiden, Anticipation, and a few others. The key is, play the games with them and play them early on and they'll like them. No different that liking music from a wide range of genres and time periods.

  • @zackschilling4376
    @zackschilling4376 Před 3 lety

    Almost every Roguelike I play, I think "This would be much better if it was just an action RPG with saves, progression, etc.".

  • @GeorgeNoiseless
    @GeorgeNoiseless Před 3 lety +2

    Is this whole Old Games Too Difficult For Kids attitude coming from people who don't play modern difficult games? 'Cause I'd like to see how they'd do with the popular modern day titles like Sekiro or Spelunky 2. Never mind the fact that older folk can't remotely keep up in modern reaction-based multiplayer titles.

  • @nesmandan1037
    @nesmandan1037 Před 3 lety +1

    You didn’t hear much about GameStop staying open because there were so many greater issues going on at the time that they were footnotes in news articles. Mainstream news needed the “Trump bump” saying lockdowns were bad until he wanted to open everything up again. You can still see quite a few articles from Forbes, Barron’s, etc from March through June though.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 Před 3 lety

      @Orwellian Future Is Now Well, that's the only thing he knows so he kept doing bizarre or outrageous things to dominate the news cycle. I agree, they shouldn't have let him hack then and simply stopped reporting on pronouncements via tweet, for example.

  • @rainehappy7097
    @rainehappy7097 Před 3 lety +1

    Zelda 1 needs an actual map in the top of the screen. A big gray square with a dot isn't enough to figure out where you are if you haven't memorized the overworld. I love Zelda to death, but I can see where kids today get confused.

    • @almightycinder
      @almightycinder Před 3 lety

      I've beaten it several times over the years and still can't find Level 2 without a map. Even the damn bush is easier to find.

  • @PhoenixLaw92
    @PhoenixLaw92 Před 3 lety +1

    I was at a water park one summer when I was 9 years old and they had a Virtual On cabinet. I didn't have any idea what I was doing, yet managed to get pretty damn far in one playthrough.

  • @8ByteBrian
    @8ByteBrian Před 3 lety

    NES games are too hard for us people who grew up in the 1980's!! Gradius, Castlevania, Rush N Attack, Mega Man, Zelda II etc, etc. these are just a few of the games I will probably never beat!

    • @deezy81
      @deezy81 Před 3 lety +1

      I have beaten Castlevania and Rush N Attack.

  • @rainehappy7097
    @rainehappy7097 Před 3 lety

    Ninja Gaiden, Mega Man, Contra, Castlevania, Bayou Billy, Blaster Master, Journey to Sillius, Battletoads, TMNT, Zelda 2, Batman... Yeah there's alot of them. Haha. But there was enough there to keep you playing until you got the hang of it. The music kept them from getting boring. Controls were tight too.

  • @urdad1984
    @urdad1984 Před 3 lety +1

    Biggest regret has to b my US copy of Last Blade 2 for Neo Geo CD. Had the OBI spine card n og neo geo jewel case...big sad

  • @zackschilling4376
    @zackschilling4376 Před 3 lety

    I bought a TG-16 with like 25 or so games (with their cases) around 2000-2001 for like $200 and ended up flipping it for a decent amount. I found it thru the ol' Bargain Finder (not sure its a national thing or just here in the Chicagoland area). It was supposed to have a Turbo Express but the guy said that was extra, even though he was full of it and it was included in the ad and said nothing about it being extra.

  • @justinlink1616
    @justinlink1616 Před 3 lety

    I'm with you on Sengoku, Pat.
    I would go with Bust-A-Move, Alpha Mission 2, Thrash Rally and ... League Bowling.

  • @PEST__
    @PEST__ Před 3 lety +3

    Ian the neck beard master

  • @otakubullfrog1665
    @otakubullfrog1665 Před 2 lety

    I have a weird relationship with Gamestop because I've disagreed with a lot of the corporate-level decisions they've made over the years, but my local franchise location has great people working there who've always been good to me and always done the best they can under the business model, so I found myself pulling for them in their fight to survive during the pandemic against politicians in my state who didn't seem to care if everything in the retail landscape got obliterated and we were left with just Amazon and Walmart. It was like defending an annoying little brother against bullies.

  • @spartonberry
    @spartonberry Před 3 lety

    Yes, NES games too hard. Pretty sure I read somewhere Game Freak said they've been dumbing down the difficulty on Pokemon games since the 3DS because they're afraid of kids losing just one slightly tricky battle and quitting the game to play their many cheap mobile games.
    And it's not like Pokemon was ever of the difficulty comparable to the "hard" NES games. (in fact the reason Twitch Plays Pokemon even played Pokemon is because the creator felt it was one of the most forgiving RPG franchises, rather than a specific choice for the franchise.)

  • @thebeasthatfeasts
    @thebeasthatfeasts Před 3 lety +1

    Some of those old NES games are the hardest games I've ever played, 4get about "Dark Souls". lol

  • @WaysideWade
    @WaysideWade Před 3 lety +7

    Setting a cabinet to Freeplay back in the day...that is extremely rare! 🧐

    • @AbstractM0use
      @AbstractM0use Před 3 lety +3

      Not if you had a friend that worked there. :)

    • @WaysideWade
      @WaysideWade Před 3 lety +2

      @@AbstractM0use
      Great point. 🙋🤑

    • @creekandseminole
      @creekandseminole Před 3 lety +2

      I remember going to a laundry mat with my mom back in the 80's and someone was able to set up Galaga on auto rapid-fire. It was friggin' awesome

    • @WaysideWade
      @WaysideWade Před 3 lety

      @@creekandseminole
      Oh man, that sounds like an awesome surprise for anyone having to be at the laundry. 🙋💯🤑

    • @PhillBowser
      @PhillBowser Před 3 lety +3

      Super Saturdays at Putt Putt Golf did this for all there machines and included a slice of pizza and soda. Great memories as a kid

  • @ThaKoalaKing
    @ThaKoalaKing Před 3 lety +2

    Games journalism is a joke so there's a reason no one reported on something that actually mattered.

  • @quezcatol
    @quezcatol Před 3 lety +1

    I forgot to add the issue with game crunching is that sometimes it benefit even the developers themself to release a title before they miss out on the holiday season or some competition that is another AAA in their genre is coming up. its not always "Black and white" about some greedy monopoly man trying to make more money. It CAN be what save the company.

  • @gunplaygaming6830
    @gunplaygaming6830 Před 3 lety

    Those games were hard as hell but you didn’t notice back then how janky the platformer controls were. Plus games were just games Friday the 13th and a lot of other Ljn licensed games got some play in the 80s /90s . You knew games like turtles 🐢 in time was special even as a kid. Even in 2021 that game never aged it’s still good.

  • @Mitjitsu
    @Mitjitsu Před 3 lety +2

    Games were shorter back then so they needed to make them harder in order to make people think were getting value for money.

  • @rev0lu7ion
    @rev0lu7ion Před 3 lety

    RetroAchievements has been around since 2013 but it recently has really been getting a lot more popular.

  • @ZJ-ne9kn
    @ZJ-ne9kn Před 3 lety

    I dont comment very often on here every once in awhile i dont consider myself a gamer per say but i do enjoy your guys podcast have for awhile you do a great job

  • @ChrisStoneinator
    @ChrisStoneinator Před 2 lety

    I'm not sure what it is; I've been playing games since I was 3 starting with Sonic Heroes on the PS2 (which would've been the year it released). A lot of that has been playing retro, due to the sheer amount of games/compilations released on the PS2, XBLA and the Wii shop. In recent years I've been collecting for Mega Drive and PS1 as well, I play them all the time, and the games just kick my ass. I can't get past stage 2 in Thunder Force III and I've been trying for days. Streets of Rage 1 is suffering although 2 is more manageable (and better I think). Some of the bosses in MJ's Moonwalker are just completely overwhelming. I keep ragequitting Raiden Project and I keep having to savescum in Tombi!, although I persevere because it's wonderful.
    I play Dota 2, Splatoon and Xenoblade 2 Challenge Mode to a reasonably competitive level and I can beat most modern games with no trouble, so I don't think I suck at games, I just can't get to grips with how a lot of hard retro games telegraph things and how they want to be controlled.

  • @WaysideWade
    @WaysideWade Před 3 lety +2

    Ian could have given the WonderSwan to Kelsey Lewin, business transaction...🤑

  • @skins4thewin
    @skins4thewin Před 3 lety +1

    Lol anyone that thinks the original TMNT is too hard really needs to get better at video games as a whole.

  • @LuckyLuch1
    @LuckyLuch1 Před 3 lety +1

    My best experiences growing up were in arcades no doubt. No one could knock me off mk and mk2 ect. they just kept lining up their quarters. Good times

    • @GD-tt6hl
      @GD-tt6hl Před 3 lety

      My best I ever did was I got the 50 wins in a row on mk2 in the arcade. You get to fight noob saibot (boon tobias the creators of the game backwards). Whipped my butt. Very fond memory.

  • @jamilthemaster
    @jamilthemaster Před 3 lety

    To be fair though, the NES had a lot of unfair garbage on it. The only reason we're good at them now is because we HAD to play them over and over again as kids. There was nothing better to do at the time.

  • @Mr_Don1
    @Mr_Don1 Před 3 lety +2

    This is interesting because I think modern games are harder. It's probably just a matter of what you're used to playing.

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Před 3 lety +1

      Modern games are 100% more difficult.

    • @LarryLopez91
      @LarryLopez91 Před 3 lety

      @@THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      Are they though? Ninja Gaiden trilogy, Ghosts n Goblins, Metroid (without a guide), SMB2 (Japan), Mega Man, Battletoads, and Super C are easier than the stuff today?
      Idk, plenty of NES games are just brutal, especially without any save features.

    • @Mr_Don1
      @Mr_Don1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@LarryLopez91 you're not wrong about those particular games. I was just talking about overall gameplay.

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Před 3 lety +1

      @@LarryLopez91 In my opinion the only REALLY hard games listed there are Ghosts n Goblins and Battletoads. There's just a lot more variety in video games now which makes it so easy to find stuff that's as difficult as you want it. Sure, there are a lot more easy games nowadays, but there's also a load of nightmare-level difficulty games that take hundreds of hours to perfect.

  • @maccloud65
    @maccloud65 Před 3 lety

    That was cool to hear Jered from the Brother Nights call in. I miss those guys!

  • @575forza
    @575forza Před 3 lety

    Haha my primary arcade was a Cyberstation, yet I also beat HotD2 on 4 quarters at my secondary arcade Dream Machine at the other mall. I also still have top shelf levels of tickets for Dream Machine. I knew I shoulda got that mini bike before they closed.

  • @Nathanatos22
    @Nathanatos22 Před 3 lety +1

    Title topic begins at 14:06

  • @loganholmberg2295
    @loganholmberg2295 Před 3 lety

    I don't know exactly what Id put in a Neogeo Cabinet exactly (I love most of them) but if I picked right now it'd be a shooter....viewpoint maybe cause I'm rekindling my relationship with Zaxxon lately, Big Tournament golf, Samurai showdown 2 and up, and any version of Metal Slug. I love Metal Slug so much. If I find room to build a cabinet one day it Will have ALL versions of Metal Slug and Samurai showdown for sure. Also I love golf games.😅 But they need a trackball unless its Big Tournament golf.

  • @mattlukasik2486
    @mattlukasik2486 Před 2 lety

    I remember I was trash at NES games until I was about 12.

  • @tiporosso
    @tiporosso Před 3 lety +1

    I played TMNT and Friday the 13th when I was around 4 years old and managed to beat them. I have pro skills today xd

  • @jeremymurphy6095
    @jeremymurphy6095 Před 3 lety

    I love IAN being from Buffalo, being from just over the boarder ST.C. Ive been to that arcade way back. And House of Dead is the Best 2 Person Shooter arcade back then ever. only large scale game I loved more was. TOP SKATER. I didnt even skateboard for another 3 years till Tony Hawks proskater 2000

  • @midwestmonster9886
    @midwestmonster9886 Před 3 lety

    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is one of the few games for which I truly begrudge the difficulty. I can beat it, but it's harder than the likes of Ninja Gaiden or Contra. Being based off of a Saturday morning cartoon show, it should've been one of the easier games on the console.

  • @ezg2000
    @ezg2000 Před 3 lety

    That last question was very good. Gamestop used shady practices during 2020. And it's a shame no covered it.

  • @sasamichan
    @sasamichan Před 3 lety

    My arcade experiences, 1. fighting over whose turn it was at TMNT. who of 8 or more of us would be the 4 to play? who has quarters? how do we get more quarters? If we step way from the game is it still our turn? and if we die was it fir death?
    The day the guy comes to collect the questers from the machine meant free lives for every one I bet Mortal Kombat III this way
    the early days of VR, holograms, and video games that used cartoon or live action footage was more to show off the technology. The games them selves cost more to play and were rarely good and not well remembered.
    Getting in to fights over what was better Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter where in one kid always said "Neo Geo "
    The rumor that you could see female video game characters naked
    having every OP move, cheep move nd finishing move in Mortal Kombat III down to memory
    knowing that in any game, there was nothing wrong with being cheap its how you won.
    Having to find the one game that I didn't have t home or never saw in other arcades.
    knowing that games were created to eat quarters
    never seeing Nintendo brand games out there
    Arcades could even pop up in strange places. while typically at malls and boardwalks they could also be in a café, dentist office, super market, movie theater, or any place that had lobby.
    after a while certain ones became easy to find while others became near impossible. Pac-Man 3D, Super Pac-Man and Baby Pac-Man were rare while Miss Pac-Man was common. Also common TMNT, Simpsons, Street Fighter II, Star Wars Trilogy. Harder to find Super Mario Brothers or Mega Man or Zelda. You were more likely to find a Contra. and while Ghostbusters could be in the arcades there was a top down shooter version of Ghostbusters that was exclusive to the arcades. Also the Atari Star Wars was often a lot more common then Empire Strikes Back or Jedi . If n Arcade did have a PC or a a Nintendo or Game boy or Virtual Boy or some thing it was way in the back hidden in some corner.
    and Arcades would at some point be more then games while pin ball was always there , some would add slots, rillette, pool, darts, gun shooting, basket ball, fortune telling, , strength testing, claw games etc
    and along the same lines as Arcades , we did have Game stores and used game stores where you could sit down and spend all day playing entire full games and for a long time it was just OK. When stores got crowded with customers playing, not going home and not paying that's when games started to be demos only and they started locking the controllers to the walls.
    other game store memories
    being able to buy and sell used PC games
    being able to get games with started save files on them
    being able to ask for game hints nd the guy at the desk would look them up or loan out a magazine or book.
    early Video rental and game rental also experimented a lot how things were done was different from one store to the next as multiple small business came in and out. Block Buster had to set standard. but for long time we had ideas drifting around like reward points cards, the game or movie was in the box on the self, if the game or movie was behind the counter you would bring the clerk a token with number on it, stores disagreed on the placement of adult and R rated films , stores disagreed with how to organizes shelves as some were by genre and some by alphabet, you could t one time rent a PC game, some stories Xeroxed there instruction booklets or gave out copies of movies not the originals, some stores et you see the full movie or full song in the store rather then just part of it or none of it, some stores had beta and lazier disk, some stores rented the plyers too, some stores had deals where you could get 3 for 2 some stores had 2 day rental some had 7 day rental some stores had just the big names and some had even the real obscure stuff. Basically before Block Buster every thing was just whatever the managers thought might work and a lot of it failed.
    at one point game rental places were the place to go to print Pokémon stickers.
    I never got to see what was in the secret back rooms of Video stores as they were closed by the time I was old enough.
    Also anime, very hard to find in video stores before 1997 as were many other obscure titles like House of Frankenstein or Godzilla Destroy all Monsters.
    we also has places you could go nd pay a high price for an hour of online game play for those who had no internet and wanted a LAN party. So you could pay hourly for Tie Fighter or X-Wing or whatever the big name RPG of the time was or Doom There was a lot of black light going on there. t was an other place that failed.
    after 1997 and as resent as 2018 I did still see arcades and free to play game set ups but it was more for the nostalgia. Such places were limited to the comic book shops New arcades are focused on VR, AR and motion tracking games. Lots of DDR and Fruit Ninja. We have shifted to escape rooms.
    Some video stores also added D n D and magic the gathering to the list of things you could pay by the hour to do
    A lot of old games were cryptic or hard but that was to make you get money out of them Its not the graphics that turns people off its the reputation the game has for being hard. People who never plaid games know from review videos that TMNT or Simons Quest or Zelda can be cryptic. but Nintendo didn't want you to bet game in 2 weeks and put it down and you didn't always have save files either. Pluss games had hint books, magazines, VHS, hotlines etc
    As for game stop I say this every time but I have never had negative issues with my Local Game Stop. Every thing you have against them seems to vary between local regions. Crunch time is also part of business, has been for a long time. I don't know a lot about it but every one does it and many games nd movies that come out to meat the dead line of the holiday season end up suffering in quality. Release things slowly, better to get done right then done fast.

  • @deelite19
    @deelite19 Před 3 lety +1

    98 best choice of kof!

  • @urdad1984
    @urdad1984 Před 3 lety

    Ooo the MVS question was a good one! Id have to go Blazing Star, KoF97, Matrimelee, & Neo Turf Master

  • @PSVitaat2am
    @PSVitaat2am Před 3 lety +2

    TMNT was definitely hard!

  • @ihavetubes
    @ihavetubes Před 3 lety +1

    NES games are easier than ever with emulators. You can do practice runs with save states than replay the game without them.

    • @marioreyes7971
      @marioreyes7971 Před 2 lety

      Not even going to lie or deny it, I straight up used save states for Battletoads until I finally beat the game.

  • @SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG
    @SchnellVITALVINYLVLOG Před 3 lety +1

    I miss the old world

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Před 3 lety

    I would have preferred more even coverage in games journalism but I get why they focus on the things they do

  • @erichusayn
    @erichusayn Před 3 lety

    Cyberstation!!! Crazy, ive shot those exact same "guns". Missed the free play day though.

  • @BrandNewByxor
    @BrandNewByxor Před 3 lety

    neo turf masters is essential *(on the green)*

  • @billyg8142
    @billyg8142 Před 3 lety +1

    I was regularly frequenting the arcade where Ted Bundy's victims were abducted from the mall

  • @phreakout93
    @phreakout93 Před 3 lety

    I just picked up 30xx from steam at release, and before that started dead cells... So now I gotta add hades to my list 😩 all while I picked up a ps4 after missing 10 years of sony games and a nintendo switch with my first pokemon game . Sighhhh fineeee

  • @shorterrecording
    @shorterrecording Před 3 lety

    My kids enjoy and are open to trying 80s NES games but have a hard time with one-hit kills and Game Overs.

  • @benandres9627
    @benandres9627 Před 3 lety

    Could you speak on NES games with a more forgiving difficulty level for people looking to quickly burn through a video game? There is an infinite amount of amazing video games and only so little time in our busy lives.

    • @almightycinder
      @almightycinder Před 3 lety

      Kirby's Adventure is very forgiving since it saves and you can come back to it. Game over just means starting over a stage, since most stages are multiple areas.

  • @InfiniCalendar
    @InfiniCalendar Před 3 lety

    I once got kicked out of an arcade because I didn't have any money. I was like 10.

  • @stevethompson4348
    @stevethompson4348 Před 3 lety +1

    There is a yestercade in red bank

  • @elguero117
    @elguero117 Před 3 lety

    My games to put in a 4 sloter would be puzzle bobble. Metal slug Snk vs capcom svc chaos. Crouching tiger hidden dragon

  • @tbone5757
    @tbone5757 Před 3 lety

    Second Saturday is a record show

  • @smokinjoesgaming2090
    @smokinjoesgaming2090 Před 3 lety +1

    I couldn't beat a lot of games as a kid that I can now. Punch out and castlevania come to mind

    • @cj694x2
      @cj694x2 Před 3 lety

      @Orwellian Future Is Now Castlevania is not unfair at all. Yes, it's difficult, but it can be mastered once you understand the mechanics and the enemy patterns. Honestly, Konami were masters of designing very well-balanced games back then.

    • @cj694x2
      @cj694x2 Před 3 lety

      @Orwellian Future Is Now No, being able to beat the game on your first try is not how you define fair difficulty. The enemy patterns in Castlevania are all very simple. The enemy placement is exactly the same in every playthrough. Yes, the movement of Simon Belmont is somewhat limited, but the controls are always responsive and the amount of action never exceeds Simon's capabilities. It's not just about memorization, it's about learning the game mechanics, which is required to play any game from any era. Being able to beat a game on the first time means there is no challenge at all. That, honestly, is a truly boring experience.

    • @cj694x2
      @cj694x2 Před 3 lety

      @Orwellian Future Is Now m.czcams.com/video/zh-os19dLPI/video.html
      This video breaks down the entire game and shows how it can done.

  • @240Sil
    @240Sil Před 3 lety

    Thank god for the Konami code as a kid. Me , bro and Dad would always kick some ass!

  • @WaysideWade
    @WaysideWade Před 3 lety +1

    Guaranteed, no debate...🛡️👾💯☣️☢️

  • @marketville
    @marketville Před 3 lety +1

    Everyone repeats? Joe Rogan doesnt. Ive only heard him discuss DMT, meat, and Bow hunting one time each, respectively.

    • @LuckyLuch1
      @LuckyLuch1 Před 3 lety +1

      Don't forget the one time he talked about saunas