Hellraiser vs Halloween: Why It Went Unmade
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- čas přidán 22. 09. 2022
- After Freddy vs Jason released in 2003, fans eagerly awaited more versus films featuring other famous horror icons. But what they don't know is just how close we were to a John Carpenter directed and Clive Barker written film, featuring the two of the biggest villains in horror clashing with each other. I'm of course talking about Michael vs Pinhead.
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Pinhead vs Freddy would've made such a better idea. If Michael is going to throw down with anyone it should be Jason in a kind of demonic Rocky type situation.
Also, Freddy vs Chucky could be fun as well. Think about Freddy trying to fight an army of Chucky dolls.
That's what I'm saying
Who the hell thought Freddy vs Jason would be a more even match up than Jason vs Michael or Freddy vs pinhead
@@shimshamjunior Can you imagine Freddy and Pinhead going at it? They can control the environment around them. It would be like a demonic wizard battle.
And Jason vs Michael would be awesome. Jason is pure brute strength while Michael is more into sneaking and planning.
They would be amazing match ups.
while Freddy vs Pinhead would have made more sense i think Michael still mixes well with the hellraiser mythology. The cenobites' job is to basically torture humans and Michael likes to do that too. Maybe they see potential in Michael and try to turn him into a cenobite. Maybe they could come up with a prophecy about a human chosen by Leviathan and they suspect that's Michael or something idk.
@@StephenLeGresley yeh see you get it, it would really be a spectacle to see cuz I'm not even sure who's more powerful out of pin head and Freddy so it wouldn't really be a nail biting fight
And Jason vs Michael would be cool to see cuz they both got brute strength and slow movement so it would be cool to see them slugging it out although I think Jason would probably last more due to him getting up and and stuff and coming back while Michael just gets shot or stabbed or blown up
Michael vs. Jason would be boring, because they are so similar. What made Freddy vs. Jason such a fun match-up was how where one zigged the other zagged.
Should've just done Meyers vs Jason like we all wanted
There was supposed to be a scene at the end of Freddy vs Jason in which Pinhead appears after chaining up both Freddy and Jason and asking what their problem was.
"asking what their problem was." lol i want to see that
Doug Bradley Actually received a Michael VS Pinhead Outline in June of 2022 and He actually really enjoyed it. Many others also enjoyed it because of how well it stuck to the other films and how everything (even some of the smallest details about both characters) were mentioned. It was also liked because of how the 4th Hellraiser film taking places in different timelines...Still stayed faithful to that one too. Plus Doug Bradley really was proud of the ending for it as well (without screwing either franchise as well).
I would love to read that.
Right.. Source?
@@pigglywiggly5 Talked to Doug Bradley himself in 2022.
@@azynkron Doug Bradley Himself.
@@azynkron They are the source
The only versus movie I want to see is Gremlins Vs Chucky. A legion of Chucky dolls battling hordes of similarly sized Gremlins? Hell yes!
Ghoulies vs Critters? lol
No
Bro hear me out, Puppet Master vs Chucky
Only if the include the critters too just to amp up the cheese and campy fun!
In the original script for Freddy v Jason, the two go to hell at the end where Pinhead looks at them like a disappointed High School Principle and says something like, "What have you two done now?"
Halloween in Hell was an awesome title tho and I like that it would have referenced other horror IPs. Barker and Carpenter being involved with this project had so much potential even though Michael and cenobites have nothing in common. I would have loved to have seen it.
Pin head would have destroyed Michael. Like, I can't even imagine how you stretch this out for more than a few minutes unless he gets turned into a cenobite.
Well, that could actually work. Pinhead sees potential in Michael so he turns him into a cenobite, but then Michael doesn't obey Leviathan and starts causing chaos with his new powers. Pinhead then needs to stop him before it's too late.
Michael is basically the antithesis of a cenobite. He has no earthly temptations, unlike the other cenobites that were undone by their perversions. You could almost make that a reason for Pinhead and the other cenobites to fear Michael, since they couldn’t control him like they do with all other souls.
@@zonastarwars4397 That was the basis of an excellent fan script I read decades ago. The Shape Cenobite is a force of brutal nature that makes the Channard Cenobite look like a playground bully in comparison.
@@AngelofMusic04 Do you have a link to that script? I would love to read it (you said it was decades ago so it may not even be on the internet but i hope it is)
@@zonastarwars4397 i see the only way, pinhead wins their first encounter very quickly. But how about it's the leviathan that sees the potential and wants him to be the leader of hell giving him the power to then take down Pinhead?
I agree that Michael should always remain grounded.
I bet Pinhead would of fucked him up 😂
Like being shot six times and being completely fine. Just like in real life.
@@System_Sega and stabbed and burned and beaten.
What? No circle of stones with Paul Rudd homie? Lol 😂
Sigh, agree to disagree. Michael started becoming ungrounded in Halloween 2, riding a broomstick in 4 n 5, then gaining superman flight abilities regardless of the cut of curse, and people worry if he runs into pinhead...
I think Dimension could have crossed over the Halloween and Crow franchises while they had the rights to both. One of Michael's victims from a previous night's killing spree brought back as The Crow to protect a new targeted victim or something.
Wow what a great idea... Do you think me and you can come up with like 90mill and get this going I'm totally down... Great idea 💡
I personally like the idea of the backstory of Michael opening the puzzle box and being possessed by Samhain as a demon. Mainly because Michael being possessed makes a lot more sense than Michael myers being a mortal man doing so much unbelievable stuff beyond that of a regular human being. Not to mention the fight between Pinhead and Michael would be pretty epic. Kind of a shame with both John Carpenter and Clive Barker being on board. The horror genre is all about suspending disbelief so keeping Michael grounded is a completely hilarious concept to me.
the original Halloween film novelization by Curtis Richards opens with a prologue detailing an ancient Celtic curse -- the curse of Samhain -- which dooms the soul of a murderer to wander the earth forever recreating the killings of unrequited love taking place in an old Irish village. and Michael, before he commits the initial murders as a child, tells his grandmother he is hearing voices relating this ancient tale. so I imagine Parker must have been at least partially aware of this material going all the way back to this 1978 book.
@@olskoolshinobi5103 that definitely sounds interesting. I think more backstory like that actually explains more in the story. Because the ancient curse of Samhain and even in the 4th and 5th film the Thorn group all attempts to explain why Michael Myers is the way he is. Because him randomly killing his sisters and anyone that gets in his way makes no sense. I particularly thought making Samhain a demon that possesses Michael was brilliant. Because it explains why he has superhuman strength and how he is able to survive things no mortal man could. Too bad this wasn’t able to be made because I feel like it would’ve improved the mythology of Halloween and explained more in the process.
I also thought it sounded really cool. It’s not even like it would have had to tie into the overall Halloween lore, just something fun for a one and done movie.
Like, I’m pretty sure most people don’t consider Freddy vs. Jason canon to the overall lore of both series. It was just a damn fun movie.
@@LiterOCola0905 yeah F vs J, Freddy’s power comes from fear. In the series he becomes more and more powerful by claiming the souls of his victims
Micheal was never grounded. Dude was shit 6 time at close range with a revolver then fell right on his back from the second story balcony and survived.
Michael would have been better pitted up against Leatherface or the Creeper. Hellraiser, on the other hand, could have battled the Tall Man from Phantasm or maybe Candyman.
Only real ones remember the Tall Man
@@onebandonesoundheadass5723 true, and only the true ones remember how unappreciated he was. He had a decent franchise, was a menacing supernatural figure, and commanded a whole horde of demented evil, like reanimated dwarf corpses and flying killer metal balls. Plus he had some good lines.
"You believe that when you die you go to heaven... No, you come to us."
the creeper would prolly easily win, haven't calculated the feats though
@@evildoughboy7773 exactly smh I remember a lot of the old ones it was a weird one I remember too with this blue woman and I think she could like morph into the trees or something I’ve been trying to figure out the name of it for years
The Tall Man is a great horror charactere.
the lamentation configuration XD
It wouldn't be much of a fight with with Michaels Myers vs. Pinhead BUT...
Pinhead vs. The Tall Man (from the Phantasm films) or Pinhead vs. Candyman would have been more of an entertaining fight (with very little recon needed)...
I need this idea!!
Phantasm is my all time fave!
Phantasm rules. RIP Angus
As Hellraiser and Candyman are both from Clive Barker books.
Plus as both are called to bring them together just have someone open the box whilst saying Candyman 5 times in a mirror so Pinhead and Candyman show up at exactly the same time to kill the person who called them them both start to fight for the right for the kill.
@@TheDarkVampire666
Nice thought. How about Hellraiser Vs Nightbreed ? There's already been a two part graphic novel on the topic.
...... WHOA!!!!! Pinhead vs. Michael Myers??? That would've been really strange. probably not a lot of dialogue in the movie because Pinhead doesn't say too much, he's very brief, in his commentary and Michael Myers never says a damn word
With all the media mergers and monopolization, these crossovers should get simpler.
one would think yeah
I think it would have work but it would only have The Hell Priest towards the end. I always imagined that someone would have to find a way to get rid of Michael and would come across the lament configuration to send him to hell. The last act would be Michael battling the cenobites in the labyrinth and possibly becoming something worse .
On one hand, I understand the desire to keep Michael grounded. On the other, I'm fascinated to see this clash.
This in my opinion should have been the match ups because they make perfect sense. Jason vs Michael, Freddy vs pinhead , Chucky vs leprechaun .
I 💯agree. The versus make sense in that order you wrote it.
I really wish we got that Halloween in Hell movie, that would’ve been godlike in my opinion from just how it sounds
I definitely think they could’ve pulled it off back then. It couldn’t have been much worse then the later Halloween sequels and it would’ve been dope to see them both on the same screen. I don’t think it could happen today though, it’s way to outta left field for the current Halloween timeline.
“Michael on the other hand is on a never-ending journey to try and kill his family members.”
Well not anymore it’s not. Even John Carpenter thought the idea was stupid and that’s why we have the reboot timeline that follows up with the first film. I think everyone got tired with the whole “killing family members”, and just have Myers killing everybody for no purpose. It just happens, even if you watched the first movie, Loomis describes Michael as nothing but pure evil incarnate, that’s all we need to know.
Some things are better vaguely explained. Michael’s motives as well as his targets being completely random, down to being branded as the face of evil is more terrifying than anything that is comprehensible. He’s like a natural force to be reckoned with
Thank you. This is exactly what Michael Myers is and should be. And exactly why Rob Zombie's remake isn't right. That first hour where they give you 1000% too much backstory and every reason under the sun for him to grow up a psycho ruins that movie for me. The second half is interesting in fits and spurts but the first half kills it for me..
Michael vs Chucky would be wicked fun.
Complete opposites.
Quiet and slow vs loud and fast.
I seen it already.
a cosplayer of Michael kicked Chucky up into the air XD
I grew up with Universal monster films being shown late at night on tv so the idea of VS films was not strange to me at all, I loved Freddy V Jason.
Tag team. Michael and Jason as "Brothers of the Blade", VS Freddy and Pinhead, the "Nightmare Angels". Cage match, if course.
Guest referree, the Leprechaun
And then it ends with a image of Mike with the pins sticking out his mask, like he becomes the new hell priest.... Epic!!
To be honest Michael vs Jason would be the definitive horror clash of the century compared to Michael vs pinhead.
First of Jason is not the king I’m the king
But michael is like, the weskest silent slasher. the entire movie would be just him getting his ass kicked by jason
@@Ashley_J.WMichael adn weak? Hit your head? Or have you only seen Halloween Ends, if you have even seen a Halloween movie?
Michael Myers is a supernatural and is unkillable. What they did to him in the newest timeline should not be canon. It just sh*ts on Michael's character and makes him weak just to have him defeated and killed.
OG/COT Michael is one of the strongest slashers in history. No one, who isn't an undead zombie or demon, can survive what Michael did and just be fine.
Instant loss….Michael would horribly
@@Ashley_J.WFreddy, outside of the dream world, was beaten by completely normal people, they could give Michael an extra power and it would be much more coherent
I have always wanted a Hellraiser portion of the movies. Such as Michaels parents years ago had used the puzzle box and made a deal with Pinhead. The deal will be they leave hell, but Pinhead will take control of the couple's first-born son at the age of 6.
This would have been goooooood
Ughhh!! no
Freddy vs. Hellraiser & Jason vs. Michael makes more sense
No, Freddy Vs. Pinhead Vs. Jason Vs. Ash Vs. Michael Vs. Leatherface would be cool
Freddy vs Pinhead would have been an excellent idea. I read somewhere that they shot a scene in Freddy vs Jason after the end credits where Freddy and Jason fight in hell and Pinhead makes a cameo saying ‘Is there a problem gentlemen?’ Too bad that the crossover didnt happen
I read something like that 2 alternate endings for Freddy vs Jason or something
@@shadowmoon3062 Wasn't there one with ash from evil dead appearing too
that wouldve been dopeeeee even if nothing happened from it. just a cool nod saying hey, theyre all connected
@@chr0me3ye True but then we would have a lot of fans asking why haven't this slashers met yet,
@@juniorayala185 Yeah lol true it would be cool though like in bride of chucky when we see all the evidence
Pinhead vs. Tallman from Phantasm makes more sense. And I would throw money at that all day.
Exactlyyyyyyyy. Who is the real “Lord of the Dead”?
Phantasm : the only series that didn't turn to shit.
@@kurtbarlow9402 you obviously never saw the 5th one 😆
@Russ Ingram I would use the new Pinhead vs Tyler Mane as the new Tall Man
@@dustinhogle3844
I agree that the fifth one wasn't great, but it wasn't because Don stopped caring about the series.
I put Phantasm V and 3 From Hell in the same category. Both films suffered from the same problems. An almost non-existent budget, (Rob got more $$$ to reshoot the ending of "House" than the entire budget for "3 From") plus a complete, last minute rewrite of the script due to the failing health of the lead actors (RIP Sid and Angus) Given the circumstances both films could have been much worse.
Neither film was great, but I think that sometimes it's just nice to see old friends one last time.
It would be so cool if they had pinhead send Michael to his realm to become a cenobite and that could be the ending of hellraiser vs halloween. that would be a sick cliffhanger.
Always thought it should have been Meyers vs Jason and Freddy vs Pinhead
here's hoping fans make movies
because i just no longer rely on modern hollywood delivering the goods anymore
‘Lamentation Configuration’? Ffs people where is the qc?
👍🏻Good video but Lamentation was annoying .
I always called the puzzle box "the pleasure cube".
The people who say Michael Myers could have been destroyed by Pinhead easily makes me think they never watched any of the Halloween films.
Michael Myers is not bounded by earthly temptations, doesn't display emotions beyond just being in rage.
Busta rhymes beat him
@@Atem_in_the_streets lmao we don't talk about that bullshit 😂 they did Michael dirty
yes, thank you Gideon
@@taskforcekillah9722lol they had michael get his ass kicked by a teenager in ends.
@@Jay-vm4lc that was way more offensive than busta kicking his ass lol 😂 Micheal had his mask stolen by the punk that was getting bullied by band kids end was an abomination
Outstanding video thanks dude 😎👍🏻
I think a Jason Vs LeatherFace would be pretty dope 🤷🏽♂️
BatMan VS Predator too
That would be dope
Jason vs Leatherface is a horrible match up
Jason is a unstoppable demonic killing machine and leather face is just a mortal man with mental problems
@@brettthomas6327 I would pay to see one of those lol
Those 2 already happened in the comics
And although we are unlikely to see this crossover, there is one game where this opportunity can be realized. Terrordrom: Rise of the Boogeymen is a fan-made fighting game featuring iconic characters from horror films such as: Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger, Leatherface, Michael Myers, Pinhead, Ghostface, Herbert West, Ash Williams and many others.
I saw this and said netherrealm should have done this years ago. The mk and injustice engines with hours characters. Problem is its a licensing nightmare
@@rebelspark86 Being owned by Warner Bros they should still have access to a bunch of horror characters nonetheless. Everything from Conjuring to IT to The Shining. I think they could still do a Terrordome type game using just what WB has the rights to:
@@TheLionKiller101 yeah and they've used a few already, Freddy, leather face, Jason. I think its the outliers that would be a problem. Like pumpkinhead, and pinhead, leprechaun.
I honestly hope Halloween never does a crossover with anything else. Part of what I love so much about the Halloween series and Michael Myers is that it's never explicitly stated that there's a supernatural element, but it's implied by the fact that Michael seemingly can't die, and it leaves the audience wondering why. And so I think pairing him with some other supernatural killer will diminish that mystery to that aspect.
Umm. There was always a supernatural element to Michael Myers
@@petboy5839 When did I saw there wasn't?
Honestly, at this point I feel like they should just embrace the supernatural aspect. They say he's either not supernatural or they don't know, but Michael literally got shot multiple times in the chest, got stabbed in the spine, and was shot and stabbed multiple times so he absolutely should've bled out by now.
Exactly! Michael and Pinhead clashing is not a suitable match.
only if people think that Michael is an average human, he is not, he is evil incarnate, can not die, probably cant feel pain
so it would hinder Pinhead's usual forms of torture, hooks and chains likely have little to no effect on Michael, he'd just shrug them off
I actually loved Puppet Master vs the Demonic Toys when I was a kid. I completely forgot it existed!
It would've been great to see Carpenter and Barker work together. I'd honestly take any sort of collaboration involving the two of them together. I don't think Michael vs Pinhead would ever work honestly. The whole versus thing is always going to be fun to think about and discuss amongst genre fans but any actual feature film on the concept no matter what character it is just seems to be destined to fail as a movie. At that point you're just combining mythologies to try to make the movie make sense instead of having a real interesting story to tell. It would never live up to anyones expectations. Now box office wise it's different because it would be the easiest thing in the world to market towards movie fans in general not just horror fans so there is money to be made from the concept. In the end you'd end up with just another entry in both franchises and not a classic horror film or anything groundbreaking not that it has to be. Some people just want to be entertained. But it's never going to be the best entry or the favorite so why do it. It's a situation where concept is always better than what you end up with. Btw, Tyler this was an interesting watch! I'd like to see more of these versus concepts from that time just because there were so many rumors floating around back then. Keep the great horror content coming, sir!
I iffy about my favorite characters in crossover situations, but if Michael’s gonna rumble with anyone, it should Jason Voorhees, Leatherface or Kevin McCallister.
This would've been awesome. I could even see Pinhead using the Thorn stones to try and control Micheal Myers.
I thought that was a great idea the second script with Kirsty and Jamie involved. It is very possible that the box could have ended up at the Myers house. Literally anybody could end up in possession of it. I did not like the BS with the first script with the retconning. I think they could pull off the second script today though.
I herd that Pinhead was originally going to show up in Freddy versus Jason at the end when they go to Hell
Would have loved to read a script for Halloween in Hell.
What Horror Fans really need is:
- Michael Vs Jason
- Cenobites Vs NightBreed Vs RawHead Rex
- PumpkinHead vs RawHead Rex
- PumpkinHead vs Pinhead
and Chucky can actually be sprinkled in any/all of these, like in the way the Joker was used in Suicide Squad.
Also a "CHUCKY GOES TO TEXAS"(takes on ol Leatherface and the family) would be fucking gold. Like at the very end he gets the bodies of LeatherFace, Chop-Top and Sherrif Hoyt for the soul transer ritual. Leaving room to follow it up with maybe someone sending PumpkinHead after the Sawyers but Chucky hasnt done jack shit to the witch or person in particular, so he's just on this fucked mission to take on a Demon thats unknowing snatching up HIS soul to fulfil the wish of revenge on the Sawyers....it could all be so simple and fun but hollywood is lame lowkey.
After Halloween Ends floped, we will need Rob Zombie to do a Halloween Hellraiser movie.
Here me out, we have the box open near Michaels and since the cenobites like to give out pain, they sense the amount of fear and pain he brings to others. They want him to come to their universe, pinhead and the cenobites try to capture Micheal as micheal kills people. Then we get the big battle of pinhead vs Micheal, the fight is intense but the chains are far too much and Micheal gets dragged away and pinhead leaves. The end credit scene is where we see micheal being transformed into a cenobite. Not fully transformed but in the process, gives time to design his look if they want to bring him back or just say he's in hell.
i find it a better twist if the usual tricks like chains and hooks have no effect on Michael because he is evil
a nice plot twist would be that the hellraiser form of torture only work on the average human being, and Michael is not an average human being
Leather face, on the run, crosses paths with Michael in haddonfield on Halloween night sounds like it could be nuts.
I want to see Pinhead vs Freddy!!!!! I've been wanting that match made in Hell for a long time. Imagine it: Pinhead allows Freddy to think he won, and just when he thinks Pinhead has lost, that's where he switches it up and begins his gamechanger.... so he dominates Freddy and gives him a brand new nightmare from which he can't escape. And the best part -- it would star Doug Bradley and Robert Englund, and it would be loaded with great practical effects and gore!!! If I only had the money to pull this off .... I would totally produce and direct
The Halloween franchise is my absolute favorite and it has many different timelines and I think a timeline where Micheal is possessed by a demon from lament configuration is stupid but also I want to see it so bad
Because Pinhead could have destroyed Michael pretty easily.
They could easily level the playing field with some plot.
I don't think Michael Myers can beat the cenobites as well.
give Michael some credit here lol Myers is not mortal and he seems to protected by some evil
so no i doubt that it would be a quick and easy battle for Pinhead, I bet Michael could hold his own if the right compentent writer(s) figured out something that would prevent Pinhead from just going all hellraiser on Michael. Even in Freddy vs Jason, Freddy didnt go full Freddy mode because the writers figured a way around that
Michael vs Jason and Freddy vs Pinhead. That's what the world needs.
Whenever I think of Pinhead I think of 5:42...always loved that shot.
I get the feeling that if pinhead peaked inside Michaels head he’s find something like the eye of Sauron staring back at him and just figure leave well enough alone
XD i love your comment! 💯
That exact demon is actually set up in the 6 Halloween film so it makes a lot of sense in that timeline.
I need to rewatch Halloween: Resurrection.
I need a good laugh.
I was toying with the idea of Hellraiser vs Phantasm called HELLTASM, but Angus Scrim passed away. Thinking of contacting the rights for a comic book.
I would be more intrigued with a Leatherface vs Michael Myers cross over. I also thought Pinhead would have been a better foil for Freddy Krueger than Jason.
Leatherface is best to keep away from the others
he is too simplistic, wields chainsaw, slices up people and wears their flesh, nothing else to that
Michael, Freddy and Jason have more creative wiggle room, since they travel, stalk and get around, Leatherface is bound to his home area and is more insane the other 3, at least the other 3 stick to a goal, Leatherface is all over the place and is so random
Who the hell says no to a Carpenter+Barker collaboration? Shut up and take my money!
Here something that shout be brought up. there was going to be another Ash vs Jason. There is a script, there was a disagreement if Ash was going to die or not. Anyway the producers scrapped and wrote Jason goes to hell instead. If you watch the movie there are many props from evil dead, the Necornomicon and the Kildonan blade guess you would call them easter eggs. That would have Rounded up to Jason VS Freddy VS Ash. Not including that the priest AKA Pinhead was supposed to show up at the end of Jason versus Freddy.
Man I really want to see a Michael vs Freddy movie or Michael vs Jason movie.
I think a versus movie can work, I always thought all the slasher killers were in the same world because of Bride of Chucky dispite the remakes.
The movie should take place in Hell, with Michael and Pinhead fighting over who would be the alpha demon. Since it takes place in Hell, that would lead to them eventually running into Freddy and Jason, kicking off a slew of new films, MCU style
I wish I could tell these producers to hurry up and make this movie come alive so I can return to the theater and spend my money again.
I just don't see this working. Pinhead will gladly welcome Myers stabbing him because he loves pain lol
i rather spend my money funding fan films
it is clear hollywood dotn want to make good movies anymore, they only dish out 1 good film once a year now
The only versus movie I ever really wanted to see was Ash vs Jason
I actually don't hate the idea of Michael being a demon named Samhain for a crossover film. It makes him surviving being shot, falling out windows, being stabbed, and being blown up make a lot more sense. Hell it makes him scribbling "samhain" on the chalkboard in part 2 actually make sense.
But people are strangely precious about the Halloween films and I seem to only like the black sheeps of that franchise beyond the first one (which is an undeniable classic).
On the grounded bit, people also shit when they made Michael more grounded in Halloween Ends. You really can't win with the Halloween fanbase so might as well just do your own thing and hope it lands.
I would've love to see pin head vs freddy a being from the hell realm vs a being from a nightmare realm or jason vs the creeper two beings who don't die against another would be mind blowing lol 😎🤟
Michael Myers versus Art The Clown would be an excellent horror movie. Both fictional characters are silent. My thoughts about Michael Myers vs Pinhead. I think ideas for a movie should be original with a unique storyline. It is my opinion that Michael Myers cannot overcome his obstacles fighting against Pinhead, he wouldn’t be able to tackle his insuperable problems attacking the cenobites by himself. As Pinheads saying goes: "Your flesh is killing your spirit."
You know, with the way Pinhead walks and Michael Myers walks, the fight would never happen because they would never meet up. It would be just a long drawn out movie with them trying to catch up to each other lmao. But I would still watch it.
Pinhead Vs Jason/Myers would just be a 3hr movie of immortal characters fighting each other..
I actually would have loved both of these.
Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😊
I have a half-baked movie idea in my head. I was compelled to type out a story. I ran with it. I'm not even a writer. I'm posting it everywhere. Steal it, change it, like it, hate it, criticize me, just hear me out. I think this should be a movie:
Depending on the ending of Halloween Ends, Freddy Krueger somehow Incorporates the Curse of the Thorn to manipulate Michael Myers into destroying the local supply of Hypnocil and murdering the people of Elm Street, sort of like he used Jason Voorhees to do in the past.
Meanwhile, Jason has obtained The Necronomicon Ex Mortis: The Book of the Dead. Combined with several artifacts, Jason has become a sorcerer.
As Freddy sets Myers loose on Elm Street, Jason slumbers and enters the nightmare realm. He confronts Freddy in his dream. Freddy, fully confident that Jason doesn't stand a chance against him in the nightmare realm, surrounds Jason with walls of raging water, using Jason's fear of drowning to scare him... Jason opens the Lament Configuration inside the nightmare... The raging water disappears.
The nightmare realm becomes Leviathan's Hell and the cenobites appear. The cenobites target Freddy as well as Jason. Freddy has no control as the nightmare realm becomes the realm of Leviathan. Freddy's powers are rendered useless in this realm. The cenobites easily begin to tear his soul apart. Freddy and Jason are thrown up on hooks with chains, but Jason breaks free and decapitates Freddy before the cenobites have the chance to savor any pain.
Jason then goes on a rampage through the realm of Leviathan as he opposes the cenobites. He easily and brutally dismembers them. He uses their own chains against them. He can kill them, which is not possible by any regular means, except Jason is using the Kandarian Dagger.
The masochistic cenobites see waste of suffering in Jason's brutality. Pinhead tells him it's a waste of good suffering as Jason quickly dismembers more of them. With only Jason and Pinhead remaining, the two face off. Pinhead is more of a challenge. Pinhead tries to savor Jason's pain, but senses that Jason incapable of feeling anything except bloodlust. Pinhead waits too long. Jason is able to break free and end Pinhead with the dagger. Pinhead crumbles into a wrinkled corpse.
Leviathan appears. The walls twist and bend to trap Jason, restraining him. Jason struggles to break free, but is now dealing with a more powerful force. Jason shows great resilience and almost breaks free. He becomes bound to the hellish scenery. He becomes partially encased. He begins to be transformed into a cenobite by Leviathan.
Jason is incapable of defeating Leviathan. He continues to struggle as pieces of him are replaced and transformed. He begins to take another form. He wants to continue his violent, SOLO, killing spree, but he has met his match in Leviathan. Jason's mother talks to him in his head. She tells Jason to stop being stubborn and use the Necronomicon to ask the dead for help. Jason breaks one hand free to cast a spell.
Jason uses his Knowledge of the Necronomicon to resurrect the dead cenobites around him as deadites. The deadites convey no prior personality traits. They are pure deadites in the bodies of cenobites and subservient to Jason. The deadite Pinhead breaks Jason free from Leviathan's grasp. Jason hears his mother's voice telling him to solve the puzzle box and escape the realm. Otherwise, he'd be torn apart and become Leviathan's puppet.
Jason solves the puzzle and emerges in the nightmare realm where he left off, except Freddy is now dead. Jason is partially transformed by Leviathan and takes on a slightly different appearance. The water still rages around Jason inside this nightmare. Jason's mother appears. She tells Jason he is free to manipulate the realm. The water dissipates around Jason by his own will. He has control of the nightmare. Jason's mother tells him, "Stop dreaming and get to work." He awakens from his slumber at Camp Crystal Lake.
Meanwhile, Myers is on a killing spree on Elm Street. Ash Williams, on a hunt for the Necronomicon, thinks it's Jason committing the murders. Once Ash and a team of familiar protagonists make their way to Elm Street, Ash realizes it's not Jason. Ash gives Myers a chest full of boomstick that sends Myers off of a fifty foot drop. Myers disappears in a body of water. Ash thinks Myers is dead. He says Jason will be much more of a challenge to kill than Myers was. Ash leaves and continues to search for the Necronomicon. Michael Myers still lives. Without Freddy to pull his strings, Myers abandons Elm Street and stalks Ash on his journey.
Ash and his team reach Camp Crystal Lake, which is now populated by deadites and Jason is in control of them. Jason uses the Necronomicon to perform a ritual and continuously raise deadites. Ash and company intervene. Mayhem ensues.
Ash and his friends are then restrained by deadites as Jason approaches closer to slaughter them. The deadites mock and tease Ash in typical deadite fashion as Jason approaches them.
Jason finally looks as if he is going to deliver a violent, fatal blow to Ash, but instead, he throws his machete away to his side and into a tree, seemingly for no reason. Ash and company are confused. Jason turns away from Ash and stares into the forest where he threw the machete. Michael Myers comes out from behind a tree, the machete embedded in his torso. He pulls the machete out of his body and holds it by the handle, staring back at Jason. Myers attacks Jason with the machete.
While the two fight, Ash uses the opportunity to break free from the deadites and regain the Necronomicon. He begins to remove the deadite spell to stop them from entering.
Jason takes many hits with the machete from Myers, but only suffers minor, superficial damage. Jason uses only his fists to inflict pain on Myers. He snaps Myers arm that is holding the machete. The machete falls to the ground. Myers begins losing the fight as Jason brutally breaks Myers other arm and legs. Jason snaps Myers neck so that it turns his head backwards. Myers falls to the ground. Jason picks up his machete, turns back toward Ash and attempts to continue his onslaught.
Ash has removed the spell that was sending the Deadites, but he needs more time to perform the ritual to send them back.
Ash's friends try to stall Jason and kill him with the Kandarian Dagger. Jason kills them instead.
Myers, still alive, has gotten ahold of the Kandarian Dagger from the dead protagonist and stabs Jason from behind. The dagger begins to send Jason to Hell like it did in the past. The ground opens up to take Jason. Jason shows great resilience once more as demons come from the hole in the ground and try to drag him back to Hell. Jason turns the deadites on the demons. The deadites make the demons lose grip, giving Jason room to almost escape. He tries to pull the dagger from his chest. He almost pulls it out, but Myers kicks the blade all the way back into him. Myers shifts his focus onto the remaining protagonists, but Deadites distract him and he fights with the deadites. Ash finishes the ritual.
The ritual makes the pit beneath Jason grow in size, attracting all Deadites into it like a vacuum and opening a large hole in the ground. The earth quakes. Myers is dragged into the pit by a deadite that is being pulled in like a vacuum. Myers grabs Jason's foot on the way down, pulling Jason farther in. Jason clings to the ledge we with one hand. Demon hands on the pit walls pull Jason down. The deadites are no longer any help to Jason as they are continuously sucked into the hole. Myers holds Jason's foot and a deadite pulls Myers. Jason tries to pull the knife from his chest one last time and is successful. The demons let Jason go.
The pit remains open. The Deadites are gone. Jason fights the vacuum of the pit as Myers hangs onto Jason's foot. Jason kicks Myers off of him. Myers clings to a ledge. Jason pulls himself to the surface. Myers climbs up half way to where Jason was. Jason stands above the pit holding the Kandarian Dagger and stares at Ash.
Ash grabs the Lament Configuration and says a one-liner as he throws it in the hole. It explodes deep down as cenobite chains quickly emerge from the pit, past Myers, to grab Jason, finally returning him to the underworld. Myers watches Jason fall. Myers still clings to the side of the pit. The vacuum stops. Myers tries to climb. Thole closes up around Myers. He is buried.
It is almost a happy ending where it seems the protagonists won, but Freddy was playing everybody the whole time.... It ends in Freddy's nightmare.
Freddy's plan was accomplished. All he needed was the children of Elm Street to remember him for him to be resurrected. He got rid of Jason and anyone who would stand in his way. He takes the Necronomicon and many other artifacts.
I want to write Chucky in there, but it's a tough one.
That would be something I want to see. Starring Jamie Lee Curtis and Bruce Campbell with some familiar franchise faces. It's called Jason V Freddy: Deadraiser... or Halloween - All Deadites Must Die... or Jason Triumphant: Nightmare's End... or Plight of the Woke-Tagonists some mix or amalgam of those titles. I'm going to copy paste this until they make it into a movie. At least put them together in some way.
It seems The Producer's Cut of Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers inadvertently mashed these movies up since the Cult of Thorn is kinda the lamentation configuration of Hellraiser and Michael Myers is a being from Hell brought up by a cult dedicated to Samhain.
Pinhead was supposed to cameo at the end of Freddy vs Jason but there was a rights issue.
The lamentation configuration. Never heard it said that way before.
I would’ve love for Halloween and hellraiser crossover I bet it was gonna be brutal and gore.
I think Michael Myers vs. Freddy could be pretty damn good. Imagine Freddy getting into Michaels head...... and then wishing for once, that he didn't......
yeah Michael could Uno Reverse card on Freddy and Freddy ends up trapped within Michael's mind that is Freddy's own nightmare, because Michael is evil incarnate
I've always hoped for a Freddy vs. Pinhead flick and Micheal vs. Jason or Leatherface.
Michael would wipe the floor with pinhead. The "doctor" cenobite killed all 4 cenobites with one hit each. A wooden spear and all 4 were gone.
yep
Yeah, Chucky vs pinhead might actually work because of how the chucky character was into witchcraft prior to turning into a doll. Might have come across the configuration box. Child’s play in hell. Not sure how I would work the story though.
I feel like leather face vs Michael myers makes way more sense the hellraiser lmao
Yes way more ! They should do pinhead vs pennywise instead
It would have been cool if they made this a non-canon story and have Michael turn into a Cenobite in the end. I can’t help but think they could do something pretty cool
Whenever I think of versus films.... I think of Freddy versus Jason and the sheer grown that came out of everyone that was in the theater on opening night when I saw it when Freddy Krueger said, "how sweet, dark meat" .
And I really think Charles band has really been the one to first cross all his properties together.
You should do a "Charles Band produced this" retrospective.... Like robot jox to puppet Master part 2000 or whatever that legacy film was, which was awful.
But I think the dollman versus demonic toys was maybe the first "versus" film? Maybe ?
Also, Versus is a great independent Japanese film.
Also, remember when Charles band said he found all those VHS in some Warehouse and they were all those old school Wizard entertainment big boxes ....and it turned out that that whole story was a lie and that he just made a bunch of new boxes lol.
Great video. I remember reading about this, "helloween". Ha! You said it !
As for crossover movies legal things aside I would rather see Freddy vs Pinhead and Michael Myers vs Jason, I always thought Chucky vs Leprechaun would be a funny and entertaining movie.
chucky vs megan
I really do hope we get a vs movie eventually I’ve been dying for another one since Freddy vs Jason. While the movie wasn’t great story wise it was a lot of fun
We need the callabo of Carpenter & Barker, even if on a completely different project. Or maybe a separate crossover like Harry D’Amor vs The Thing
Other crossovers: Snake Plissken vs Sawyer family, Pennywise vs Candyman, Patrick Batemen vs Hannibal Lecter vs Jigsaw, Pumpkinhead vs The Creeper, Blade (puppet master) vs Chucky
Still would love to see M Mickey v. Jason,love the fan film with those to on CZcams. Freddie vs. pinhead would have been more appropriate.
Any movie can be made if you have the right ideas and the right writers. Pinhead vs Micheal can definitely be done. How about having someone who collects cursed objects has the box and Micheals mask in his collection. Then Michael shows up looking for his mask, the guy panics and summons the cenobites. There’s an idea…….
All these horror icons are rotting in the closets of big movie studios nowadays.
What a shame 😕
Seeing also the worst horror movies going through the roof like Annabelle, generating 10-50x their budget at the box office, I really don't understand why they can't come up with ideas for those legendary villains.
Phantasm vs Hellraiser would also be quite interesting.
Kirsty and Tiffany from Hell raiser 2 are the Nacy Thomson and Kristen Parker Nightmare on Elm street
Imagine Bruce Campbell came back one last time and they made Michael vs pinhead vs ash
what would be cool
Pinhead VS Candyman
That's like a four minute movie as pinhead summons chain after chain to tear Michael to pieces.
nope
Michael is evil incarnate, so he has evil "plot" armor
Pinhead cant just use his usual mojo on the shape, Michael isnt a mere average human being
I want a Michael and Chucky road trip buddy comedy
When it comes to hellrasier- there’s no competition- pinhead and his jolly gents would drag them all down to hell in the most horrifying and burial ways. Hmm… WAIT!! Maybe that would be entertaining 🖖😂
Jason Blum said he'd like to see Michael vs the villain from sinister. Could be a good story there