Rosemary's Baby - Beware Ridiculous Old People
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- Why are the villains in Rosemary's Baby so ridiculous? And why does that feel so resonant at the end of 2020? My first video essay on CZcams.
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The Evolution of Horror on Rosemary’s Baby
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That's the point, IMO--they are supposed to come off as ridiculous so that you don't suspect how evil they really are until it's too late. It helps that they're played by good character actors...
I don't mean to freak people out but Ruth Gordon was my real life next door neighbor on the Vineyard when I was born. She even gave my mother a baby blanket we still have today. So, if you believe the movie, I am the antichrist. This was several years after the release of the film, and, it is a film not a documentary, but I have always found that to be funny.
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@@tristramcoffin926 as long as she didn’t also supply your mother with tannis root, you should be ok! 😅 Seriously though, how cool to have had such a famous neighbour!
yes i agree ..j saville was ridiculous to do the same
it was after the movie ended that i felt tremendous sense of dread
I love that you had a problem with them being white, not them being satanic cultists.
Can someone tell Britta what an analogy is?
Shows how the USA has been turned upside down since the sixties. This movie is a reference book to what the hell happened.
The irony is that they to will become old white people. Just give it time.....tick tock..tick tock..tick tock.
@@hermanhale9258yes
Totally agree.
They may be old and look harmless, but they’re NOT HARMLESS! One of the scariest parts of this film is how easily these elderly people can break you!
... the sixties were the time when youth cult started ... and this film is some sort of revenge ...
To this day, decades later, I still laugh uncontrollably when Minnie Castavet starts to choke and cough when she sees the tray dripping the spilled Vodka Blush cocktails on the carpet, which she then gets down on the floor to wipe up. I also laugh at her forcefully telling Guy and Rosemary that "he's Roman, I'm Minnie, OK? OK!?" But from when I first saw the movie in 1968 I have disliked the exaggerated tip-toeing of the two men behind Rosemary as she desperately calls her friend Elise on the phone after she's managed to take refuge in the apartment after Dr. Hill has handed her over to Guy and Dr. Saperstein. This latter scene, to me, trashes the tension and fear that's been so skillfully been built up to that moment.
Yeah, that was my problem with the film. The ending just ruins how tense the entire thing is up until that point.
It’s anew carpet Cos the killed the girl from the laundry room there
I loved it beginning to end
I was raised by people like that and it’s spot on!
@@lovecraft128 Nope. Terri killed herself by jumping out the window of Minnie and Roman's apartment after Roman told her she was to be the mother of Satan's child. She did this while they were out, which we see when they return home after Terri's death and the police inform them of her death.
@@hebneh they killed her in the apartment hence the new carpet ,
Maybe Cos she was accustomed to hard drugs so the chocolate desert didn’t work and she put up a fight she was already dead and there was blood on the carpet ! Roman master manipulator suggested covertly to the police ishe suffered premenstral tension “ every four weeks she became depressed”
They never would have told her truth !
Watching "Aunt Clara" raise her glass and say "Hail Satan," I fell in love with this film.
“old white”… Come to think of it a Haitian voodoo priest would’ve been awesome in this movie
sadly this kind of thing happens ALL the time. It's a hallmark of narcissism and narcissists. They "hide in plain sight" like in the movie, acting like normal (even good) and sweet people, but then behind closed doors are freaks. They tell you you're being a baby, that you're nuts, that you're too sensitive, and "I never said that" or "I don't remember that; I think you've got it wrong", and so on. Along with that, they insult you and and put you down to remain the "top dog" in the relationship. Narcissism is HUGELY prevalent in today's world; you will run into it on a daily basis no matter where you live even if only in a very minor way. It's one of the worst and most self-esteem killing experiences to be on the receiving end of it. I know someone that used to have a Dr that said very similar things to what Rosemary's Dr said.
you have bigger problems going on.
Agreed. And way too many of them in this world. It's a social disease many succumb to
The thing is, it was largely the generation coming of age at the time who were fighting the establishment that were enamored with alternative religions in 1968, Satanism being among the most novel among them. It wasn't 'old people'. Even if it had been it would remain ridiculous to generalize the elderly as being Satanist. As much is still the case today however it is worth pointing out that the hippie counter-culture on 1968 who proved so eager to embrace alternative religeon are now the boomers or old people you are so ready to equate as evil and there is no doubting the effectiveness of that generation at breaking down society's long held as reliable, trustworthy institutions.
Another scary fact: those old people are just you and me in a few short years.
Ironic, right?!? I was thinking the same thing. The clocks ticking.
Well, no, I would never be a Satan worshipper.
@@nassauguy48 Yeah, maybe not that.
Actually, I find Rosemary‘s Baby to be quite similar to Stanley Kubrick’s version of The Shining. In both films, the problems the protagonist is experiencing could be just as easily explained as paranoid delusion, short of invoking the supernatural.
Well Rosemary's Baby, the Shining and Audrey Rose all have similarities-1. A young couple moves into a building which has an eerie reputation. 2. The husband turns out to be something of a traitor. 3. The child is the centre piece of the horror. 3. The young couple is warned by a man about the horror to come. 4. The story is mainly shown through the viewpoint of the wife character. 5. Like Rosemary's Baby, in The Shining, the husband character goes behind the wife's back to join a sinister group (a witch club, a group of ghosts). 6. In Rosemary's Baby, the husband hopes to get ahead in acting, in The Shining the husband is trying to get ahead in his writing career. 7. the couples eventually come into conflict with themselves (Rosemary learns that Guy is a witch, in Audrey Rose, Bill Templeton is a total sceptic about the paranormal events leading to conflict with his wife Janice, In The Shining, Wendy flees from Jack)
Great job of the gas-lighting that was so well represented in this great film and is being relived today. Super! Hope that enough victims continue to push back.
It's nothing but a heavy sedative to knock you out .
as someone who saw this movie in a theatre when it was first released sadly I feel nothing substantive has changed in our society, in fact the wealthy are more wealthy, privileged and narcissistic than ever before. as far as the performance of Ruth Gordon I always thought her an actress portraying an actress acting. a woman who deliberately presents herself as a simple innocent all the while plotting and scheming for complete evil. Gordon must have understood this and I think she was very convincing. Perhaps the banality of her cohorts makes it all the more disturbing.
One of my top 10 best films of all time! Top 3 of the 1960's !
Guy is the worst one and he is not a ridiculous character. He grows up to be Ziegler in Eyes Wide Shut.
He IS the worst one because he sold out his wife.
Mia farrows first 🎥 21 yold . Ruth Gordon won Oscar 🏆 for Rosemary Baby 1969
Muh whyts
One of my favorite movies, it is a masterpiece.
The scene here at 06:14 is chilling: it is the acceptance of Satan's bargain (ie., career success for bearing Satan's child).
A masterpiece
This was an awesome video! Thank you for making it!
Beware disarming old men in bow ties……hey, wait! I’M an old man in a bow tie!! AND I have pierced ears - from my midlife crisis. 😮
I respect your analysis, but I profoundly disagree with the anti-Whitism.
Accepting anti-whiteness allows people a free pass to be anti-refugees, anti-Jew, anti-Irish etc, it should always be called out
I`m a ridiculous old poor white man
The film doesn't belong to Roman Polansky???? Ok, I admit that he might have passed trough some dark moments but as a filmaker he is a master! One of the best ever! I can´t imagine this film made by someone else! Its a masterpiece of cinema! A Roman Polansky masterpiece!
While I respect your interpretation surrounding gaslighting and the power over many held by the few, I think Rosemary's Baby highlights the issue that freedom of thought is under constant attack from all sides. For example, President Trump could have been a great president. However, what if a powerful and biased group used all of their considerable power to turn your opinion? Therefore, Trump supporters are similar to Rosemary, where they are told everything is wrong about Trump when they themselves do not see any faults in the man or his policies. On the other hand, if Trump was a horrific disaster in the white house, then President Biden will save the country right? Yet, why are Biden's polls so low? Why is inflation so high? Job growth consistently under expectation, the supply chain crisis continuing, and so on? Now Biden supporters have become like Rosemary. They are told everything is fine when they can see their utility prices, grocery prices, and fuel prices skyrocketing while friends and loved ones lose their jobs, cars, or homes. While World War 3 possibly looms on the horizon. This is just one example. However, it highlights that no one is allowed to create and act on their own thoughts. We, like Rosemary, are forced to fact-check through others who are often vastly more powerful than we are. And if they say everything is good, or everything is bad, then their word is law. In America of 2022, we are living the life of Rosemary as she fled the coven...hoping Dr Hill would save her.
excellent logic and reasoning! Fully agree!
The amount of views this video has as of now (March 2021), and the amount of followers you have both look like a typo. Excellent work!
Thank you! It’s partly a function of how bad I am at promotion.
@@phonograph1423 Certainly not entirely your fault - CZcams's algorithm favours people who post quantity instead of quality. But your mention on kottke.org will certainly bring more people to your channel. It's how I got here.
I lived in a 1970s condo in arlington va the older people in my building were very nosey and bit creepy and yes they were wealthy white folks, one lady on my floor was quite snarky, she would sleep walk through the halls screaming for her dead husband, a older man above the 11th floor jumped to his death, I felt the building was cursed, it was plagued with many problems including the tenants.🤪
There's this one building about a mile away from me which is one of those-"bad karma buildings" mentioned by Hutch in Rosemary's Baby. First the building was used by this crazy woman as a front for selling drugs, then after she was arrested and sent to jail, the building was used as a normal clothing store by a woman who behaves just as weird as the other lady! Two different women totally unconnected to each other who both behave completely psycho. The only connection between the two women is the same building. I and everybody else avoids this particular building like the plague.
I guess that's why I got annoyed throughout the whole movie. It was because she was gaslighted from beginning to end. Then again, it was the 1960s, so maybe that happened a lot with women in a male-dominated world.
Cause males only gaslight, right?
No, it didn't - that is why this was used as a terrible element in a horror movie. Your leftist teachers are lying to you.
@@paulascott5701 has nothing to do with "leftist teachers" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ericanicolebarton People who are brainwashed have no idea they are brainwashed. "Male dominated society" was absolutely nothing like you have been told.
@@paulascott5701 ok feminist 🤣🤷🏾♀️
Excellent perspective. Subscribed.
I’m not sure why you emphasise their race in the introduction. Pretty racist actually. You are inferring that people of a certain race are evil and it’s actually really really gross. Don’t be racist; it’s weird
He will become an old white guy just like the old white people he is talking about. It will happen faster then he thinks. I wonder how they all feel about their old grandparents voting?
"Old white people" - 🙄
They’re the worst.
Racism
I think this guy is a wokester
@@MacabreAndMagic that's what you are indoctrinated to believe.
Great commentary. Thank u for sharing.
Good analysis!
This video captures something essential about what's going on in our shared cultural life. Great work!
The scariest monster ever: white men 😱
Hypernormalization, same themes..
I think the point is that they are not really 'ridiculous'; only Minnie and Roman dress so gaudily in the movie. It's about how innocuous or even friendly but ordinary people can be evil, too. And we don't suspect them because they don't fit the physical stereotype. That was very revelatory for the time. And, of course, in retrospect of a year later, it's ironic that in real life, it was a cult of evil YOUNG people who murdered director Roman Polanski's pregnant wife Sharon Tate on that fateful night in Beverly Hills. And, by the way, restrictive institutions exist in every country and society, even ones not filled with 'white people'.
Interest, ty.
Thank You So MUCH .......... . Producer and Narrator....
You teachers gonna love this great job!
May the democrats continue to I M P L O D E .
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Uno jour Dan's Lawton ok
Rosemary is lovely. She is the kind of woman who men would slay dragons to protect. Her childhood was mid-western and God fearing. It is reflected in her innocence and femininity which is what makes the movie work so well. You want to protect her because you intuitively know that what she represents is the essence of life and a worthy civilization. The betrayal is so awful because she is a thing of beauty and grace.
That being said, her own greed and pressure on Guy to take that apartment put them in the orbit of witches. Her desire of a worldly, fashionable life (and a shallow actor husband) caused her to put her own faith to the side so she could enjoy the sophisticated pleasures of NY. She is confronted with her own betrayal when Roman starts criticizing the Pope which makes her very uncomfortable but she has already chosen sides in her soul. She is ripe for the picking - as was Sharon Tate.
Rosemary's Baby is one of my all-time favorite movies, so, of course I clicked on this and started watching, expecting an interesting analysis. Stopped watching halfway through...the narrator's racism and ageism ruined what could have been an interesting video.
Lol what racism isn't there like only white people in this movie.
@@icepelt1001 The character of Diego (elevator operator) is african american, played by D'Urville Martin.
Bruh ...stfu -it was an awesome movie
Jesus is coming soon be ready time is short ❤❤❤❤
These old people want to have ever lasting life by choosing the wrong side...In reality your soul is burning in hell
The thesis is great, not gonna lie. I just can't grasp why you had to throw in so many racial and political jabs in there, "bad white people." "The past 4 years of gaslighting." Remember not everyone who watches your content will resonate with the belief that whites are evil or that Trump ran the country improperly (I scoff at the notion that he was anymore incompetent than the current nursing home patient we call Biden). Why can't we share art, media, or literature anymore? Everything has become *so* incredibly divisive.
This is ironic. We’ve decided that lies are truth and truth are lies and so it’s incredibly easy for you to dismiss this creators claims. I don’t recall the creator ever once saying “bad who’re people” but somehow you grabbed that and ran with it.
Biden!
You've understood nothing of the movie, but you're so submitted to the ambiant atmosphere that you sadly probably will do well. Continue being misguided, friend, it's à la mode !
Right! I was actually going to comment on that. This movie is laughing at people like him. Hidden in plain sight.
maybe he realizes exactly what the movie is about but is choosing not to focus on all of that but just these certain aspects to prove a point. Ever thought about that, smartass?
It’s so easy to claim someone else is misguided. I’d love to hear how.
We could look at the movie from a different angle. A couple of newly weds who have taken on an upper New York apartment which on Guys acting salary they can’t really Orford. Rosemary who is suffering from Psychosis which is brought on even more by moving into a new apartment and the stress of Guy Trying to make it as a struggling actor. Could this movie be about paranoid Schizophrenia. And nothing to do with the occult. That’s just another way to look at another Synopsis about the movie. What I find strange is that bad luck seems to follow everyone from the crew to the producers to the actors who star in movies about Satan. The Omen had the same bad curse hanging over it. And I think The Exorcist movie be felled the same fate. 🦇
The castevats are some sort of caricature ... of old americans ...
Reminds me of the Rothschild family
I'm writing a film now related to a similar idea. This acceptance of lies (trump and the new republicans…not that the old guard didn’t lie, but this new group has perfected gaslighting and just brought their racism out into the open) and this happy bliss as our rights are being taken. Still, it’s okay because it’s “someone else’s” rights and not our own. They are blissfully walking straight into fascism.
Your video essay was well done, and I don't believe for an instant you misunderstood the movie. It's funny to read the comments and see many likely older folks are up in arms at a video essay they disagree with. They are quick to scold you for not being inclusive of their beliefs. It's almost as if they were never used to not being in their echo chamber. They quickly become like the villains in the movie, trying to dissuade you from ever doing anything but listening to and agreeing with them. I am subscribing, and I look forward to seeing more of your content.
Bored me senseless.
You know, the conspiracy theories about the pandemic were shocking to me, and I don't appreciate being lectured about gaslighting during that time. It was a very real, very scary, global health emergency.
What amazed me is that you believe governments would band together to enforce mask wearing and quarantining....like all the world governments and health organizations were some cohesive unit.
So, I think this video was ruined by the idiotic voice over. I will make sure to block whatever stupid videos you put out in the future.