Hey i’m the guy that we thought had the catastrophic fail in my meidjo’s at A Basin last weekend. Just wanted to say thanks. All i had to do was tighten the springs as they became totally unthreaded. i realized it when i tried to tighten the din on the good one by turning clockwise and realized it is a counter clockwise turn to tighten. Hit them with silicone and VC3 and they’re skiing incredible. 100% best binding ever
I have Meidjos and so far I really like them. Want to give Pierre props for engineering them. Releasability is very important to me. I spent many years on Voile releasables but they were 75 mm and have been discontinued. This is NTN and a much better setup. I can't speak to any durability issues but will post if I have any problems. All my friends went to AT gear. I refused to give up the tele. I mainly parallel, but I just love throwing in teles as conditions dictate. To me that's ultimate freedom in the mountains. Thanks for creating this channel.
Great video! Couldn't agree more about the meidjos. Been on them now for 3 seasons and love them both in the resort and the backcountry for the same reasons you mentioned. Keep the content coming, there isn't enough tele gear talk on youtube just yet :)
I just broke ANOTHER tech toe pin on my Meidjo bindings today in easy moguls. I'm 71, 160 pounds on Tx Pros. I've broken one side on each of a pair of 3.0's and also 1 tech fitting on a 2.1. I've also broken a flextor, 2 black springs, one spring on a ski brake and 2 base plates where the "U" shaped bar attaches. I love the way these ski, but I just can't trust them any more. I think it's time for me to try the Lynx.
1:42 hmmm… well, I know there’s some disagreement over this one but… I feel the pivot point for the tour mode on the BD 01 binding is perfect. And they ski downhill really well, with the activity and feel of older 75s with the lateral edge control of NTN/alpine. Makes sense, since they were right on the cusp. Beefy, but not too heavy for longer tours. I have them mounted on Fischer S-bound 112, which is a Nordic ski. Double camber/fish scales, but with downhill sidecut (112-78-95). I mounted them on the balance points for each ski respectively, not the boot center or chord center. As such, the bindings are offset almost a full centimeter. Don’t feel it at all while skiing, and I think that’s why the pivot point feels so perfect to me. It was an oddball choice, but no regrets! It only seems odd when you look at them against the wall and see that one binding is closer to the Fischer logo. I know it’s a bit off topic, since you only cover NTN stuff, but there you have it…
All good! Everyone has an opinion on this- some people are die hard 75mm fans. I broke my fibulas multiple times, and that’s why I adopted NTN back in 2011. Once you find something you love it’s hard to want to try something new, especially expensive new things. Just don’t elude to the fact that because I am on NTN I’m not teleskiing or dropping my knee- then we will have conflict!
Nice video, thanks for posting. I’m making the transition from 75mm to a new setup this year. Mainly ski lift serve due to time constraints. Would you still recommend the meidjo, or different tele binding? I currently ski the Axl and BD01 on black Diamond skis.
If you have no intention of touring check out the Rottefella Freedoms as an alternative. They release as well. I would not recommend the freeride’s anymore. I would shy away from 22 Designs if you want the benefit of releasability. They claim their bindings release but they lack the spring loaded tabs on the second heal that enable the reliable release. I broke my fibulas so releasability is a non negotiable for me. If you ask 22 Designs they’ll give you a fishy answer about releasability and try to attack other company’s releasability because they’re not dinn certified, but the truth is, their designs lack the tabs and that means they won’t release reliably, end of story. However, the Freedoms are not fully step in and out the way the Meidjo is. They do have a more traditional cable and spring system so the flex may feel better to you, but getting in and out will be a bit more tricky. You can step on the latch with your ski so you don’t have to bend over but that may lend itself to long term durability issues. When you put them on they are also in tour mode from the start, so getting into them to ski is a two step process. That said, I think the Meidjo is the way to go. It cost about the same as the Freedoms and are lighter and fully step in. Once you try touring in them you may find you enjoy touring more as well and tour more as a result.
Hey, I'm a big guy (230lbs) and I ski the Meidjo 2.0s on a pair of DPS Alchemy Pure Carbons (109 underfoot). The Meidjos are STRONG. I've been hammering them at Alpine Meadows and Palisades for five years, as well as in the backcountry and they are extremely reliable. So on a wide ski and in very questionable conditions, these things are great. I'm actually upgrading to the 3.0 because the 2.0s take some cleaning out to get the tech-toe clear after doing lots of transitions from touring to riding, and I only just recently had a bad experience with the tech-toe releasing in the worst possible spot while sidestepping into a no-error chute. Upon inspection later, I figured out that I had not put the toe pins completely into the sockets on the boot toe, so it wasn't the bindings' fault, really, but I like that the 3.0 has a lot more engagement strength than the 2.0. I also should have engaged the heel piece, which is unique to the Meidjo and REALLY NICE to have in bad situations. I don't engage it often, but when I do, it's like putting on a seatbelt.
Think id be too heavy for the meidjos? Im 210-220.... lookin into switching to ntn from 75mm because my boots broke. Just cant decide if i go meidjos or outlaws.... i dont tour at all just resort... for now
Given your requirements I advise looking at the Rotefella Freedoms. They are releasable and also excellent bindings, built a little more beefy than the Meidjos. I do not like 22 Designs because they do not release reliably. As a company I think they are a great American company, but I have been injured too many times to not have releasable bindings. I can confirm both the Meidjos and Rotefellas release. us.scarpa.com/ntn-freedom-binding
I don’t feel like they affect my turns at all, but I’ve always used them. I’ve never felt them drag, if that is what you’re concerned with. They do squeak when touring, but they redesigned them recently (I think this year) to prevent that. I say try them, you can always go back to leashes if you don’t like them; they’re only $60. Also, leashes are dangerous if you ever get caught in an avalanche.
I've skied and toured with the 2.0s for five years. I started with leashes and then went to brakes. I noticed no difference. The squeak is real, but I hear that the new 3.0s have addressed this. I hope so. I'm upgrading now.
I wouldn't recommend them if they didn't tele downhill awesome. I have Freedoms mounted on my super fat powder skis, K2 Darksides, 128 underfoot. I think the Meidjo skis great compared to them. The flex feels very natural to me and they don't seem to bottom out the way the Freerides did. They're also much easier in and out of. I don't like how the Freedoms start out in tour mode. I've broken several pairs of Freerides over the years- they crack at the frame after enough use. I haven't skied the Freerides enough to have broken them because I only take the fatties out on super deep days. I wouldn't recommend them if they didn't ski well. You will have to experiment with the springs to get them the way you like them; they come with 2 sets that can be combined and offer a 3rd stiffer option as an add on. I find I like the 2 springs combined. You can make them super soft all the way to super stiff.
3 years. I have not broken them. Watch my video on maintenance- once you set the spring tension you should use a thread locker as I’ve had the springs work their way loose. With thread lock it’s not a problem. You should also spray them with silicone periodically to prevent snow buildup in certain conditions. I have not had a catastrophic failure yet. That said I will destroy any tele binding in enough time, ilI charge hard and ski 70-100 days a year. I’ve destroyed Freerides at the frame from stress fractures and the even original bomber bishops. I’ll break a G3 cable every 30-40 days. Meidjo’s get my seal of durability/approval.
Out of curiosity, were you ever able to break the Rainey Superloops? I ripped those out of skis a few times, but I never broke the binding.... Aaaa, memories. And your point about climbing resistance on a spring binding could not be truer than with the Superloop!!!!@@amerotrashtelemarketer
Hey i’m the guy that we thought had the catastrophic fail in my meidjo’s at A Basin last weekend. Just wanted to say thanks. All i had to do was tighten the springs as they became totally unthreaded. i realized it when i tried to tighten the din on the good one by turning clockwise and realized it is a counter clockwise turn to tighten. Hit them with silicone and VC3 and they’re skiing incredible. 100% best binding ever
Glad I could help and thanks for commenting and supporting the channel! Spread tele love and awesome wolf dog!
Thanks! Appreciate as a long-time telemarker who's gone to the dark side and now back
I have Meidjos and so far I really like them. Want to give Pierre props for engineering them. Releasability is very important to me. I spent many years on Voile releasables but they were 75 mm and have been discontinued. This is NTN and a much better setup. I can't speak to any durability issues but will post if I have any problems. All my friends went to AT gear. I refused to give up the tele. I mainly parallel, but I just love throwing in teles as conditions dictate. To me that's ultimate freedom in the mountains. Thanks for creating this channel.
my left ear loved this video
I’d love a set of M-Bindings, and as soon as Scarpa put tech fixings in their TX Comp!
Thank you for the insight
Great video! Couldn't agree more about the meidjos. Been on them now for 3 seasons and love them both in the resort and the backcountry for the same reasons you mentioned. Keep the content coming, there isn't enough tele gear talk on youtube just yet :)
Thanks for the support! I’ll be adding new content every week. Spread the tele love!
I just broke ANOTHER tech toe pin on my Meidjo bindings today in easy moguls. I'm 71, 160 pounds on Tx Pros. I've broken one side on each of a pair of 3.0's and also 1 tech fitting on a 2.1.
I've also broken a flextor, 2 black springs, one spring on a ski brake and 2 base plates where the "U" shaped bar attaches. I love the way these ski, but I just can't trust them any more. I think it's time for me to try the Lynx.
Love to see some skiing action
I posted some clips from this year! More to follow.
1:42 hmmm… well, I know there’s some disagreement over this one but… I feel the pivot point for the tour mode on the BD 01 binding is perfect. And they ski downhill really well, with the activity and feel of older 75s with the lateral edge control of NTN/alpine. Makes sense, since they were right on the cusp. Beefy, but not too heavy for longer tours.
I have them mounted on Fischer S-bound 112, which is a Nordic ski. Double camber/fish scales, but with downhill sidecut (112-78-95). I mounted them on the balance points for each ski respectively, not the boot center or chord center. As such, the bindings are offset almost a full centimeter. Don’t feel it at all while skiing, and I think that’s why the pivot point feels so perfect to me. It was an oddball choice, but no regrets! It only seems odd when you look at them against the wall and see that one binding is closer to the Fischer logo.
I know it’s a bit off topic, since you only cover NTN stuff, but there you have it…
All good! Everyone has an opinion on this- some people are die hard 75mm fans. I broke my fibulas multiple times, and that’s why I adopted NTN back in 2011. Once you find something you love it’s hard to want to try something new, especially expensive new things. Just don’t elude to the fact that because I am on NTN I’m not teleskiing or dropping my knee- then we will have conflict!
Nice video, thanks for posting.
I’m making the transition from 75mm to a new setup this year. Mainly ski lift serve due to time constraints. Would you still recommend the meidjo, or different tele binding? I currently ski the Axl and BD01 on black Diamond skis.
If you have no intention of touring check out the Rottefella Freedoms as an alternative. They release as well. I would not recommend the freeride’s anymore. I would shy away from 22 Designs if you want the benefit of releasability. They claim their bindings release but they lack the spring loaded tabs on the second heal that enable the reliable release. I broke my fibulas so releasability is a non negotiable for me. If you ask 22 Designs they’ll give you a fishy answer about releasability and try to attack other company’s releasability because they’re not dinn certified, but the truth is, their designs lack the tabs and that means they won’t release reliably, end of story.
However, the Freedoms are not fully step in and out the way the Meidjo is. They do have a more traditional cable and spring system so the flex may feel better to you, but getting in and out will be a bit more tricky. You can step on the latch with your ski so you don’t have to bend over but that may lend itself to long term durability issues. When you put them on they are also in tour mode from the start, so getting into them to ski is a two step process.
That said, I think the Meidjo is the way to go. It cost about the same as the Freedoms and are lighter and fully step in. Once you try touring in them you may find you enjoy touring more as well and tour more as a result.
Hey, I'm a big guy (230lbs) and I ski the Meidjo 2.0s on a pair of DPS Alchemy Pure Carbons (109 underfoot). The Meidjos are STRONG. I've been hammering them at Alpine Meadows and Palisades for five years, as well as in the backcountry and they are extremely reliable. So on a wide ski and in very questionable conditions, these things are great. I'm actually upgrading to the 3.0 because the 2.0s take some cleaning out to get the tech-toe clear after doing lots of transitions from touring to riding, and I only just recently had a bad experience with the tech-toe releasing in the worst possible spot while sidestepping into a no-error chute. Upon inspection later, I figured out that I had not put the toe pins completely into the sockets on the boot toe, so it wasn't the bindings' fault, really, but I like that the 3.0 has a lot more engagement strength than the 2.0. I also should have engaged the heel piece, which is unique to the Meidjo and REALLY NICE to have in bad situations. I don't engage it often, but when I do, it's like putting on a seatbelt.
Think id be too heavy for the meidjos? Im 210-220.... lookin into switching to ntn from 75mm because my boots broke. Just cant decide if i go meidjos or outlaws.... i dont tour at all just resort... for now
Given your requirements I advise looking at the Rotefella Freedoms. They are releasable and also excellent bindings, built a little more beefy than the Meidjos. I do not like 22 Designs because they do not release reliably. As a company I think they are a great American company, but I have been injured too many times to not have releasable bindings. I can confirm both the Meidjos and Rotefellas release.
us.scarpa.com/ntn-freedom-binding
What is the best step in step out telemark binding. Best bang for Buck?
Thank you.
Meidjo!
i have 3.0s on my latest skis but I stuck with the leash... how do you feel the brakes affect turns?
I don’t feel like they affect my turns at all, but I’ve always used them. I’ve never felt them drag, if that is what you’re concerned with. They do squeak when touring, but they redesigned them recently (I think this year) to prevent that. I say try them, you can always go back to leashes if you don’t like them; they’re only $60. Also, leashes are dangerous if you ever get caught in an avalanche.
I've skied and toured with the 2.0s for five years. I started with leashes and then went to brakes. I noticed no difference. The squeak is real, but I hear that the new 3.0s have addressed this. I hope so. I'm upgrading now.
Great but how do they ski compared to the freedoms?
I wouldn't recommend them if they didn't tele downhill awesome. I have Freedoms mounted on my super fat powder skis, K2 Darksides, 128 underfoot. I think the Meidjo skis great compared to them. The flex feels very natural to me and they don't seem to bottom out the way the Freerides did. They're also much easier in and out of. I don't like how the Freedoms start out in tour mode. I've broken several pairs of Freerides over the years- they crack at the frame after enough use. I haven't skied the Freerides enough to have broken them because I only take the fatties out on super deep days. I wouldn't recommend them if they didn't ski well. You will have to experiment with the springs to get them the way you like them; they come with 2 sets that can be combined and offer a 3rd stiffer option as an add on. I find I like the 2 springs combined. You can make them super soft all the way to super stiff.
@@amerotrashtelemarketer 👍
Could you go over the touring lock in the next video?
Yes!
I posted a how to Meidjo Video, it should answer your question.
Thanks!
How come Freeheel Life stopped selling the Meidjo, if they ever did?
I don’t know! Confluence Ski and Kayak in Denver will help you out. They’re great!
How long have you been riding the Meidjo? And have you had any durability problems?
3 years. I have not broken them. Watch my video on maintenance- once you set the spring tension you should use a thread locker as I’ve had the springs work their way loose. With thread lock it’s not a problem. You should also spray them with silicone periodically to prevent snow buildup in certain conditions. I have not had a catastrophic failure yet. That said I will destroy any tele binding in enough time, ilI charge hard and ski 70-100 days a year. I’ve destroyed Freerides at the frame from stress fractures and the even original bomber bishops. I’ll break a G3 cable every 30-40 days. Meidjo’s get my seal of durability/approval.
Out of curiosity, were you ever able to break the Rainey Superloops? I ripped those out of skis a few times, but I never broke the binding.... Aaaa, memories. And your point about climbing resistance on a spring binding could not be truer than with the Superloop!!!!@@amerotrashtelemarketer