First Dirt: Is the New Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter BETTER Than the TRD Pro?

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    ( www.alltfl.com ) Watch more videos from TFL Studios! In this video, Andre and Roman check out both the hybrid 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro and the new kid on the block: the overland-focused Trailhunter! What are the differences between the two trucks?
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    0:54 New TRD Pro Off-road
    14:13 TRD Pro walkaround
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  • @motoapes3623
    @motoapes3623 Před 27 dny +614

    $63,900 before markups.
    Quick math:
    $6,400 down (10%)
    + tax and interest (7.64)
    60 Months Payment: $1260
    @12.5% of take home pay you should be earning $157,500 annually to be looking at this car (assuming the appropriate taxes are coming out of your paycheck).
    National average wage (US Census): $63795.
    Percentage making $150k annually: approx. 8.3%
    5 Year price increase Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro:
    2019 MSRP: $42,960
    2024 MSRP: $63,900
    49% increase
    Wage growth 2019-2024: 1.7% (Source: US Treasury)
    These price increases far outpace inflation and wage growth.
    Toyota is targeting 8% of total market. Or people who just want to act fiscally irresponsible😂.

    • @simplebroco9577
      @simplebroco9577 Před 27 dny +49

      I appreciate this comment. Thank you for the info!

    • @jppilotadventurez5251
      @jppilotadventurez5251 Před 27 dny +47

      This comment need to be pinned! Introduce some sense onto people.

    • @XloMotion
      @XloMotion Před 27 dny +47

      Taco bros will completely ignore this comment.

    • @tylerkstevens
      @tylerkstevens Před 27 dny

      Money supply has increased over 50 % so it’s just tracking true inflation. CPI is fake. Wages increase last. Centillion effect.

    • @tigerbiterhater
      @tigerbiterhater Před 27 dny +15

      Or we can just accept the fact that there’s actually people out there with money. People still buying over msrp. 🤔

  • @4rr44E
    @4rr44E Před 27 dny +360

    $65K!!! One word… nope.

    • @scoobygms210
      @scoobygms210 Před 27 dny +24

      People paid 75k for the first gladiators and people been paying almost 90k for fully loaded F150s the world's crazy !! No one likes money !!

    • @felixgato718
      @felixgato718 Před 27 dny +14

      65k could get a used TRX or Raptor. I think 50k for the TRX and 55k for the TH.

    • @NM-235
      @NM-235 Před 27 dny

      It has cost 60k to get a well equipped rubicon for years. This is what happens when the government shuts down the economy and prints money for 3 years. It’s not political it’s simple economics. Increasing the supply of money without a commensurate increase in the size of the economy results in reduced value of the money ( inflation ). The published rates are lies. Look at the price of groceries or houses everything is up 20-50%. But wait gas isn’t up because we kept draining the strategic oil reserves.

    • @jeremyf5051
      @jeremyf5051 Před 27 dny +18

      Wait, $65k? Do you know where we can get them that cheap? Imagine dealer markups will make it $70k at least.

    • @ezneil5092
      @ezneil5092 Před 27 dny +3

      ​@@scoobygms210Bold for you to asume alot of people don't have the kind of money and just keep the money themselves be passive and stay poor lol😂

  • @davidvasquez1269
    @davidvasquez1269 Před 27 dny +139

    After taxes, you’re looking at 67-70k. Insane for a midsize truck.

    • @laithalmas8413
      @laithalmas8413 Před 27 dny +10

      more than that, you'll never get a TRD Pro or Trailhunter that isn't loaded with $5k worth of options that you don't want or need

    • @Cocky.Rooster
      @Cocky.Rooster Před 27 dny +5

      And only 2 usable seats 🫤

    • @dansnowman29
      @dansnowman29 Před 27 dny +6

      Dealer mark-up, or whatever they call it. More like $80k

    • @Ryles890
      @Ryles890 Před 27 dny +3

      Be a 90k truck in Canada, by the time you finance it or 6 or 7 years at the new "industry standard loan rates" probably cost 110-120k.

    • @borhotkaar3480
      @borhotkaar3480 Před 27 dny +4

      And a 1200$ payment….

  • @scotchbrite1241
    @scotchbrite1241 Před 27 dny +61

    That price is outrageous Toyota!

    • @mansoor123hussain
      @mansoor123hussain Před 24 dny

      I hear what you’re saying but we live in an era where people pay $8 for a damn coffee

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Před 20 dny +1

      @@mansoor123hussainnever in my life would I expect people to pay 70k for a 4cyl midsize truck. That’s certified insanity right there 😂

  • @lordcorgi6481
    @lordcorgi6481 Před 27 dny +50

    I can't wait for the Sienna Trailhunter review 🤣

    • @drive-channel1834
      @drive-channel1834 Před 9 dny

      I've got 2023 Corolla Trailhunter GR Sport TRD Offroad, it's nice. Full-time 4WD, triple Difflocks, etc

  • @theirthereandtheyre2947
    @theirthereandtheyre2947 Před 27 dny +63

    $40k was my max for what I paid for a new truck. I wanted a midsize but settled on a Ram 1500. There has to be a huge market correction. A new truck is only new for a very short period of time, after that you’re stuck with a huge bill for 84 months.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo Před 27 dny +2

      Ordered my 2021ram1500 classic tradesman quad cab 4x4 v6 with lots of extras paid 40k with taxes and a extended warranty last good good deal 👍 before prices went crazy 😮

    • @270eman
      @270eman Před 27 dny +1

      @@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I got the 23 Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 DBL cab 6ft bed for 41 with the technology package. You can still get a 24 SR 4x4 for less than 38 or SR5 for 43. I got the 23 for the V6.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo Před 27 dny

      @@270eman good price nice truck 🛻👍

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 Před 26 dny +1

      @@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I paid $53k for my loaded w/moonroof 2024 ZR2, but I'm ok with that as it has more power, and more offroad capability with it's front and rear lockers, and better offroad angles and clearance, and smaller size and turning radius, oh, and the 360deg cameras and dual TFT screens as I usually go out alone. I might give up some cargo and towing capacity, but that's a good tradeoff for the better offroad capability.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo Před 26 dny +1

      @@kx8960 nice truck 👍 good price

  • @TimSaundersC4
    @TimSaundersC4 Před 27 dny +72

    I did the math, and the Trail Hunter, priced at $63,000 USD, is equivalent to $86,000 CAD. In Ontario, there's a 13% tax, so the total cost for the Trail Hunter is $97,000 CAD.

    • @kabloosh699
      @kabloosh699 Před 27 dny +22

      At those prices they are making the Ranger Raptor look like a deal at 57-58k and the ZR2 the best bang for your buck at 48-52k.

    • @redrider7730
      @redrider7730 Před 27 dny +8

      @TimSaundersC4 Add your needed destination charges and your over 100K Can. It's a deal!

    • @shmac96
      @shmac96 Před 27 dny +16

      Dont forget your carbon tax thats meant to help save the environment by taking even more of your money. Good times!

    • @jtomtl
      @jtomtl Před 27 dny +8

      86K for a small truck, No means no, I am a Toyota guy but it’s ridiculous pricing

    • @mknervy
      @mknervy Před 27 dny +4

      yup, now add fees and let's say you finance some of that 97k, so interest as well, and now it's well above 100k CAD. so f'ed up I'd say!

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb Před 27 dny +54

    "smaller kids or legless friends"🤣🤣

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 Před 26 dny +1

      ...I don't have any legless friends....YET...(a few moments later, with a chainsaw...)...🤣

    • @nm-qt2hb
      @nm-qt2hb Před 26 dny +2

      @@kx8960
      The seats may be fantastic for the Baja 1000. I doubt that any person doing normal off-road adventures will ever benefit from them. Not to mention the loss of rear leg room.

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 Před 25 dny +1

      @@nm-qt2hb Yup. To me, it's a gimmick, and looks really weird. Oh, and what happens when those shocks start leaking oil all over the interior?

    • @ellerybice3787
      @ellerybice3787 Před 13 dny

      Remove the rear seats, plant them in the bed. Like the old Subaru Brat.
      Now your interior has room to PARTY! 🤓😎🥸🤩🥳🥳🥳

    • @rickeycooley9139
      @rickeycooley9139 Před 7 dny

      My back seat in my Tacoma has never had any one on it. It’s used for hauling guns lots of em.

  • @dawg7750
    @dawg7750 Před 27 dny +28

    I'll keep my 2021 Tacoma Off Road thanks.

    • @useryggfdcc
      @useryggfdcc Před 27 dny +3

      Installed Bilstein 6112 front, rear ICON AAL with Bilstein 5100.
      Steel front bumper with 9000lb winch.
      EXCELLENT TRUCK.

    • @weemackee
      @weemackee Před 27 dny +2

      Same. I payed $38k for my 2020 TRD Off Road with Premium package in April 2020. If I were to put $30k in upgrades into it, it'd be a superior vehicle to any stock TRD Pro.

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Před 20 dny

      @@weemackeeI’m sure you’ll look cool with that going over the speed bumps in the mall parking lot 😂

  • @theaveragewoodsman6002
    @theaveragewoodsman6002 Před 27 dny +14

    That price is insane. Especially with the incoming dealer markups.

  • @Chuffmaster654
    @Chuffmaster654 Před 27 dny +5

    The tech bros of Boulder and Denver will love this!

  • @Kakiharaichii
    @Kakiharaichii Před 27 dny +34

    Everything that made me love cars has disappeared in recent years. I’ll but a couple of old cars and keep them forever. It is out of control.

    • @briskhockey
      @briskhockey Před 21 dnem

      I got a 2018 frontier last year. It's my newest vehicle I've ever owned. Everyone seems to shit frontiers for being outdated, but having a truck that actually feels like a truck with buttons feels amazing. The highest tech it has is a display with Bluetooth built in. And I love it.

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Před 20 dny

      @@briskhockeyI leased the new gen a couple years back while I was living in Montana for work. Had it for one year, i truly enjoyed it.

  • @ShadowBend
    @ShadowBend Před 27 dny +10

    Nissan Frontier looking real good these days. This price is wild. If purely offroading, maybe this makes sense. But it cant even fit 4 decent size humans comfortably.

    • @Ldiepian
      @Ldiepian Před 25 dny +4

      got my 23 Pro4x for 38k & that's looking even more like a steal now

    • @lulop022882
      @lulop022882 Před 23 dny +1

      Local dealership is selling frontiers like hot cakes. Co worker needed a small pickup and bought a frontier based on my recommendation. She told me the dealership had just sold 28 the day before 🙀. I’m a Toyota die hard, but come one Toyota. I’m hoping they release a Stout

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Před 20 dny

      @@lulop022882I leased one in 22 for a year while I was living in Montana for work, it was a awesome truck it was a fully loaded pro 4x if I remember correctly the MSRP on it was 45-48 k. It’s still a naturally aspirated V6 and it was awesome in the snow.

    • @4rr44E
      @4rr44E Před 15 dny +1

      Bought my 22 Pro-4X for $41K with everything except leather. I’m super thrilled with it and am glad I picked it given Toyota going to a 4cyl and sky-high prices.

  • @brandonrides8953
    @brandonrides8953 Před 27 dny +24

    $65k and made in Mexico. Maximum profit!

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 Před 26 dny +3

      You act like "made in Mexico" is something to be ashamed of ...get over it ...toyota made in the USA doesn't mean any better.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Před 26 dny +5

      @@signkutter9218it makes it better from a GDP perspective but that concept is likely beyond your grasp

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 Před 26 dny +1

      @mattbrew11 So the quality of your U.S assembled truck is better because of GDP? 😅🤣... 👍. Tacoma has been built in Mexico for over a decade....they also build the Hilux ...

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 Před 26 dny +3

      @@signkutter9218 ...LOL Still missing the concept....

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 Před 26 dny

      @kx8960 silly boy talkin economics on the subject of build quality

  • @frh-freerangehuman
    @frh-freerangehuman Před 27 dny +6

    Andre diligently changing the conversation away from sausage 😂

  • @donays8241
    @donays8241 Před 27 dny +5

    I can't WAIT to see the MPG TEST ON THIS TRUCK.

  • @mechmat12345
    @mechmat12345 Před 27 dny +7

    The 4Runner is usually a few thousand more than the Taco which means the 4R TRD Pro will be pushing $70k which is the same price as the GX550 Overtrail, which is just a way better vehicle as far as i can tell.

    • @Tylander_
      @Tylander_ Před 27 dny

      Ya if you can wait 3 years to get a GX

    • @Elsuntan
      @Elsuntan Před 24 dny

      On your suggestion went in took a look at the GX550 and you are completely right, you get a ton more and a proven Prado origin. If you are in the 67,000 range you might as well go to 69,000.

    • @sunny051488
      @sunny051488 Před 6 dny

      @@Elsuntanyea but it’s like 89k after markup

  • @bawintermage8351
    @bawintermage8351 Před 27 dny +137

    Who cares at this price point? Im sorry, but cars and trucks are way overpriced. Its time for a market correction. And the people who claim that, it doesn't matter if you have money, are either lying trolls or part of the problem by paying mortgage ($900+) payments for a depreciating hunk of pre rusted tin and turbos.

    • @janetairlines1351
      @janetairlines1351 Před 27 dny +19

      Agreed. New vehicles are not remotely worth it anymore

    • @ryansheard8092
      @ryansheard8092 Před 27 dny +13

      I want to know where a $900 mortgage is? Mine is $2000 a month and that's CHEAP!

    • @andrewsbbq
      @andrewsbbq Před 27 dny

      @@ryansheard8092I’m $900/week

    • @bawintermage8351
      @bawintermage8351 Před 27 dny +2

      @@ryansheard8092 I wanted to strike a balance between what was obviously too high for a car payment and low mortgage payments and juxtapose that against what some fools are paying. I've heard of $1600 payments for trucks.

    • @ryansheard8092
      @ryansheard8092 Před 27 dny

      @@bawintermage8351 I don't have a truck payment, but ok. It's easier to just pay for the thing outright than it is to finance. I think your anger is directed in the wrong places.

  • @marks7311
    @marks7311 Před 26 dny

    Loved the video and enjoy the informal and impromptu vids. Keep em coming, great work

  • @curtl1694
    @curtl1694 Před 27 dny +38

    Ranger Raptor or Trailhunter?
    “Raptor of course” is what Roman was thinking.

    • @chrisb9478
      @chrisb9478 Před 27 dny +11

      Ranger Raptor, if you like plastic oil and transmission pans & plastic drain plugs. 😂

    • @FrankyRedEyes
      @FrankyRedEyes Před 27 dny +8

      I work in the plastics industry. Some plastics are harder and more durable than thinly stamped metal plus plastic doesn't rust. We, as midnight shift machine operators, were throwing our test run parts (NOT Ford parts) as hard as we could against brick walls with zero issues. Couldn't break chip or shatter our parts. And that's before QC got them 😂.

    • @theaveragewoodsman6002
      @theaveragewoodsman6002 Před 27 dny +8

      Ford has the most recalls of ANY brand 3 years in a row.

    • @chris-qo1nt
      @chris-qo1nt Před 27 dny +2

      Toyota has built up a lot of brand capital that they’re cashing in with now

    • @marcg.3830
      @marcg.3830 Před 27 dny +7

      @@chrisb9478 the 2.7 doesn’t use the plastic oil pan anymore and I would be surprised if the 3.0l does. Toyota uses plastic transmission pans also. So stop acting like Ford is the only automaker that uses plastic oil and transmission pans as many other automakers do.

  • @EdwardVarner
    @EdwardVarner Před 27 dny +30

    Car companies are smoking some good stuff when determining pricing these days.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 Před 27 dny

      Talk to your government 😂

    • @qbanlink25
      @qbanlink25 Před 27 dny +2

      @@beexiong2995 if you live here it's your government too pal, want to change it, vote Red this Nov otherwise put up or shut up.

    • @deedspm9
      @deedspm9 Před 27 dny +1

      Don't buy them. But the people who can buy them still will and the prices will continue to soar

    • @JohnSmith-zi9or
      @JohnSmith-zi9or Před 27 dny +2

      Companies can't do anything about inflation. We voted for this. But hey, no more mean tweets.

    • @andyleo8418
      @andyleo8418 Před 27 dny

      It's not crazy if it sells.

  • @originalname9999
    @originalname9999 Před 27 dny +4

    With these prices Nissan would be stupid to not jump all over that 35k-45k segment. As of now if i was in the market for this sized truck that pro4x would looking really good. Luckily I got my TRD off road in 2020 for 34k and does everything I expect From it.

  • @Axsel85
    @Axsel85 Před 27 dny +10

    I figured they would be priced around that but still was surprised😅

  • @wiks101
    @wiks101 Před 27 dny +56

    63K for a midsize WOW - I would never be a customer at that money!

    • @tobinkern5389
      @tobinkern5389 Před 27 dny +1

      This is the midsize Raptor or TRX. And how much are those trucks? $63K aint bad

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard Před 27 dny +8

      @@tobinkern5389 Actually the Ranger Raptor is 55K.. So yeah Toyota is bad and it takes a few years for them to work out the bugs! Just look at the reliability of the new Tundra! Not paying 66K for a truck made in Mexico either!

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy Před 27 dny +1

      @@JPEBeard And the Ranger is $7k over the Chevy ZR2 so why not get that?

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard Před 27 dny

      @@Dusdaddy Good point but Chevy not been very reliable IMO. Plus they don't have a v6 as well! Besides I rarely see a ZR2 on the lot!

    • @garykarczewski6678
      @garykarczewski6678 Před 27 dny

      Agreed. Over priced junk with way too many features that are not needed. Better to sell with less to make the trucks more affordable. If you want additional crap that doesn't make the truck really any better the go aftermarket.

  • @brandonstewart7145
    @brandonstewart7145 Před 27 dny +1

    Excellent video guys, i enjoy this format more than others and no music 😁

  • @jasonpaiva4793
    @jasonpaiva4793 Před 27 dny +6

    The shiny black plastics look funny, fender flares & bumper accents & hood scoop. I have a 22 TRD off-road w a plain hood, it has way better sight lines than a scooped hood. Great comparison Roman & Andre.

    • @redrider7730
      @redrider7730 Před 27 dny +2

      They found out like most TRD 4Runner and Tacoma owners have, if you don't put some sort of a decal over that fake hood scoop on the hood you will be blinded all to heck at some point when the sun hits it perfectly. It's beyond annoying.

    • @71gmonet
      @71gmonet Před 27 dny +2

      If they are going glossy they may as well paint match or even better paint accenting like they used to do on the previous generation (not current) Limited 4 Runners. My favorite was a Limited grey metallic with the charcoal (not black) fender flares.

  • @lbjailer
    @lbjailer Před 27 dny +9

    Nice trucks, but I like the ZR2 or Raptor better.

  • @donleamon8653
    @donleamon8653 Před 27 dny +2

    63k just affirms my decision to repower my beloved 80 Series with an LT swap. She's already built, locked, new leather. For less than 30k I should be able to have way more power, better fuel milage and have enough left over to do a decent re-squirt of the exterior.

  • @Lets-do-this-
    @Lets-do-this- Před 27 dny +15

    Maybe I’m cheep but I do not think a Tacoma should be more than the mid 50’s come on people Great video once again, guys

    • @Mylifeislegendary836.
      @Mylifeislegendary836. Před 27 dny +1

      You are not cheap oh no instead silly. This is a excellent mid size truck and worth its price. This is 2024 and not 1999

    • @270eman
      @270eman Před 27 dny

      Yeah that's why I got the 23 SR5 V6 4x4 . 41k. I am never going to need all that crap on the expensive trims and I can upgrade the suspension myself how I like for a few thousand. I really prefer the basic all paint matched style on the SR5 anyway. Looks like luxury in silver. I have seen 24 SR5s going for 43k. Thats the deal. Upgrade later if you want offroad crap.

    • @iskdude9922
      @iskdude9922 Před 27 dny

      If ypu want the nice shit make more money....

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Před 20 dny

      @@Mylifeislegendary836.70-73 k after mark ups with a big interest rate ? For a 4cyl mid size truck ? Just so all the posers can look cool going over the speed bumps in the Victoria secret parking lot 😂🤡

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Před 20 dny

      @@iskdude9922Nice shit ? You’ll never be able to shame a real man into paying 70-73 k ( after Toyota markups) for a 4cyl mid size truck, I got my diesel cheaper than that. This is another Toyota poser truck, built for the wimps like you who don’t off road at all but want to look cool hitting the speed bumps in the complex you’re picking your wife’s boyfriend up from 😂🤡

  • @zmotorpro
    @zmotorpro Před 27 dny +1

    I like the impromptu reviews. Thanks for the review and thanks for the payload numbers!

  • @HD-on2eg
    @HD-on2eg Před 27 dny +5

    It’s like Toyota is giving a big middle finger to all its loyal customers. The year over year price increases are just insane.

  • @BabakPA
    @BabakPA Před 27 dny +12

    I can’t believe how much they are charging people for these trucks! Oh and don’t forget to take your tablet when you leave😂😂

  • @jhb3711
    @jhb3711 Před 21 dnem

    Love the video guys! Lots of good information as always 👍

  • @LPM84.
    @LPM84. Před 27 dny +21

    Sorry to say this Andre, but the TRD PRO and the Trailhunter are not a close or direct ZR2 BISON competitor. Maybe a base ZR2, and Ford Raptor Competitor.
    -No factory front locker.
    - 33s not 35s factory installed.
    -less lift/ground clearance/Aproach/departure ect..ect.
    Toyota as well as other manufacturers have priced these trucks out of the relm of what most people will ever pay for a midsized truck.

    • @fernandopuga6906
      @fernandopuga6906 Před 27 dny +11

      And the ZR2 Bison still is 5k cheaper

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 Před 26 dny

      @@fernandopuga6906and MADE IN THE USA

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 Před 26 dny +6

      Not even directly comparable to a "regular" ZR2 (like the 2024 I just bought), as the Tacoma STILL doesn't have a front locker.

    • @LPM84.
      @LPM84. Před 26 dny +1

      @@kx8960 I understand that. But it is the closest.

    • @rickeycooley9139
      @rickeycooley9139 Před 25 dny

      @@fernandopuga6906 what is the price, you never said?

  • @TheThewulasvegas
    @TheThewulasvegas Před 22 dny +1

    I own a 2012 TRD Tacoma. I paid $26K out the door Feb 2017. 50k miles on the odometer. Today’s prices are insane.

  • @crack_of_dawn
    @crack_of_dawn Před 27 dny +10

    Wow I was considering replacing my wife's 2021 TRD Off Road with a 2025 Pro but for that price I'd rather just switch her to a Ranger Raptor.

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 Před 27 dny +4

      said no one ever

    • @crack_of_dawn
      @crack_of_dawn Před 27 dny +4

      @@paulm6481 I literally said it, and meant it.

    • @Kid_with_an_Evo
      @Kid_with_an_Evo Před 27 dny

      I’ve seen those going for as much as $83k in Washington. Just depends on the dealer.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc Před 27 dny

      Ford is absolute crepe compared to Toyota and you know it. Nice bluff though.

    • @crack_of_dawn
      @crack_of_dawn Před 26 dny +1

      @@Jeff-ib7wc Not a bluff at all. I don't have an allegiance to *any* car company. I don't own a Toyota, my wife does. She loved her previous ranger that she had for ~150k miles and would absolutely happy to jump back into one.

  • @michaelneild5133
    @michaelneild5133 Před 27 dny +2

    I LIKE THIS STYLE OF VIDEO! YOU GUYS DID A GOOD JOB! I THINK THAT I WOULD GO WITH THE TRAIL HUNTER ALSO! VERY ENJOYABLE VIDEO

  • @makadocious1975
    @makadocious1975 Před 27 dny +12

    Not even a front locker for 63k wtf...and front and rear locker is the best thing to have... also just think of the 15k markups that they will tack on also

  • @LivingRetirement
    @LivingRetirement Před 27 dny +7

    Prices are INSANE!!! I was contemplating the TrailHunter, but must say big time "NO". I much rather get the LC250 LandCruiser in a few years once hopefully markups are gone.

    • @alromero5685
      @alromero5685 Před 24 dny +1

      You can drive to a further dealer for a no mark up Land Cruiser.

    • @LivingRetirement
      @LivingRetirement Před 24 dny

      @@alromero5685 that is what I am doing once I am ready to buy, absolutely!!! Once I decide when and what.

    • @alromero5685
      @alromero5685 Před 24 dny

      @@LivingRetirement 😎👍 My man!

  • @AdventureBraten01
    @AdventureBraten01 Před 27 dny

    This was probably already on the works, but I’m so glad you guys made this video (after I commented asking for it)

  • @Constipatedoverlord
    @Constipatedoverlord Před 27 dny +2

    At my dealer (socal) we got a prototype tacoma come in for trouble codes. It wasnt anything serious, grille shutter, because we assumed it was from the offroading they were doing. It was thoroughly dirty and could tell they had taken it through some decent water. Truck was plenty muddy. They seem alright. Nothing to lose your mind over.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc Před 27 dny

      By 2028 they will have these absolutely sorted and bulletproof. Until then- Have fun early adopter Guinea pigs!

  • @user-zv4zt5uc5b
    @user-zv4zt5uc5b Před 26 dny +2

    Here is a theory on Toyota’s high pricing; Toyota Corporation tired of distributors and dealers making money from unnecessary and unwanted accessories, including $4,000 “market adjustments”. So they have jacked up the MSRP on the vehicles to a level where distributors and dealers have no room to add “extras” and may have to even discount to move the inventory.

  • @joedonahue5687
    @joedonahue5687 Před 17 dny +1

    My 2021 TRD Pro resale value just went up! Thanks Toyota!

  • @guentherwilke2055
    @guentherwilke2055 Před 27 dny

    Nice to see the comparison between the top off-road trims. Hopefully we’ll get a comparison between the OR and TH or Pro soon.

  • @tbm275
    @tbm275 Před 27 dny +1

    Do the ventilated seats on the Tacoma vent to the back and base of the seat, or just the base?
    I'm interested in the TRD-Off Road with premium package for the vented seats but no point in them if they only cool the base of the seat and not the back.
    Was really disappointed by the new Ridgeline Black edition that only had the vented seat base and not the back.

  • @Queensizemusic
    @Queensizemusic Před 27 dny

    Great job! I love the new roofline on all of these. I’m thinking I’d like the Pro for the extra grand.

  • @TeXasDadBod
    @TeXasDadBod Před 27 dny +5

    I was waiting for you guys to show how much roomier the back seat on the trailhunter is 😅 !

    • @originalname9999
      @originalname9999 Před 27 dny +1

      Same as their current test rig in the Off Road Trim.

  • @CraigG21
    @CraigG21 Před 27 dny +1

    The Trailhunter trim is for Overlanding; says right on the Toyota website.
    Prices on the TRD-Pro & Trailer are 😱
    What were the actual payload numbers on these vehicles? I know what the website says...
    The turbo noise in the raised air intake would get old really quick.
    Great info in this vid - thanks.

  • @ennispep
    @ennispep Před 27 dny +5

    Toyota made the price so high dealers are going to have a hard time taking on markup cause nobody going to want to pay 5k to 10k extra on this vehicle there's so many options for that price like a f150 raptor or chevy silverado zr2

  • @JordanMadera
    @JordanMadera Před 27 dny +10

    I am pretty sure the 4Runner TRD Pro and Trailhunter will be as pricey if not more. That price makes me consider a Land Cruiser 250 series as a serious option.

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard Před 27 dny +2

      Might as well go with a Lexus GX than a Land cruiser!

    • @mechmat12345
      @mechmat12345 Před 27 dny

      For $65k I'll definitely take a Land Cruiser. Best balance of off road, efficiency and comfort imo. I assume the 4Runner TRD Pro will be pushing $70k, and I'd definitely take the GX Overtrail at that price.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc Před 27 dny

      Land Cruiser has like 8.5” ground clearance. The GX Overtrail has 8.7”. You get 11” on the Trailhunter model WITH a factory warranty!

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard Před 26 dny

      @@Jeff-ib7wcDon't you get a V6 with the GX?

    • @CrumResearch
      @CrumResearch Před 4 dny

      ​@@Jeff-ib7wc11" clearance is pretty good, like in our Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Cybertruck offers even more -- 16" ground clearance.

  • @CoopaCoop
    @CoopaCoop Před 26 dny +1

    TRD off roads and pros pricing is getting totally crazy. Give me a off road with just heated seats and a bed liner for 40k out the door and it'll be the number one selling truck on the market.
    They can keep all the other fancy controls/cameras/technology that is driving the price through the roof.

  • @marshallkroening
    @marshallkroening Před 27 dny +3

    These look sick. Also loving this style of video guys!

  • @kurtburkhardt5862
    @kurtburkhardt5862 Před 27 dny

    I will get the TrailHunter 4Runner once it has been out for a while. Have a 5th gen with a Old Man Emu 3" lift and 33" Baja Boss tires. Nice Toyota is going with them.

  • @KemApak
    @KemApak Před 25 dny

    Love it, great video, thank you guys! They are almost the same price as Land Cruiser / Land Cruiser. So what is the real difference? Is it just style?

  • @arnick2
    @arnick2 Před 27 dny +4

    Elephant in the room: Made in Mexico.

    • @dvader3263
      @dvader3263 Před 27 dny +1

      The 3rd gen Tacoma was also built in Mexico.

  • @secerator
    @secerator Před 27 dny

    So what else is different other than the seats, snorkel, bed size, shocks, rock bar? Any difference in the tech package and off road functions?

  • @hollahabibi1897
    @hollahabibi1897 Před 27 dny +2

    The EXTREME!!!!! Dudes from Harold and Kumar would love this truck

    • @mnyhomie
      @mnyhomie Před 27 dny

      Wait, was that a pterodactyl?

  • @fscottgray9784
    @fscottgray9784 Před 27 dny +2

    Trail hunter would be my pick but the interior still looks pretty tight for anyone over 6 foot tall.

  • @hugoarreola5797
    @hugoarreola5797 Před 27 dny +1

    Keeping my 21 TRD Pro Lunar Rock for a long time😌😎

  • @cartopia6161
    @cartopia6161 Před 27 dny +1

    The isodynamic seats should be an option, that way one could get this trim at a cheaper price.

  • @franzvanjulio5523
    @franzvanjulio5523 Před 27 dny +1

    I enjoy the impromptu reviews.

  • @tedwarkentin2211
    @tedwarkentin2211 Před 18 dny

    So, which suspension felt better on the same trail? The Fox on TRD Pro or Old Man Emu on Trailhunter?

  • @mattbrew11
    @mattbrew11 Před 26 dny +1

    Sounds like the arb snorkel on my diesel JT. ❤

  • @steffencave9363
    @steffencave9363 Před 26 dny

    Can you disable the proximity warnings, or will you get beeped at every time you approach an obstacle?

  • @omardevonlittle3817
    @omardevonlittle3817 Před 27 dny +31

    it sounds like a shop vac lmao

    • @redrider7730
      @redrider7730 Před 27 dny +7

      I was thinking the same, that's not a car sound or anything I would want to hear for any length of time.

    • @bradj9870
      @bradj9870 Před 27 dny +5

      The last turbo I had that made that sound was about to go bad...

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 Před 27 dny

      Dummies. All turbo engines make this sound. Just depends on how much muffling is done to the airbox

  • @lunamaria1048
    @lunamaria1048 Před 27 dny +1

    The TRD Pro didn't lift a wheel even once lol. Overtrail did pretty quick. The Pro articulation was excellent. I'd buy the Pro, if I were buying either

  • @mramseyISU
    @mramseyISU Před 25 dny

    I had been planning on getting a trd pro. Then I started seeing more and more pictures of how they killed the rear seat room. I’ve got kids to haul around so I want a usable back seat. I finally decided I was out and ended up getting a hybrid tundra with the trd off road package. I’m pretty sure I’m not really missing out.

  • @damien7881
    @damien7881 Před 27 dny +3

    COULD YOU GUYS DO THAT TEST (TRAILHUNTER VS BISON)

  • @jlaw1901
    @jlaw1901 Před 27 dny +2

    Andre, I really want to see the hybrid on the Ike. I’m curious how regen braking will effect downhill performance

  • @zygmuntziokowski7877
    @zygmuntziokowski7877 Před 23 dny

    I like the trailer-header also.

  • @athrunzala3281
    @athrunzala3281 Před 7 dny

    Is it a dual or single air compressor?

  • @aham3476
    @aham3476 Před 27 dny +1

    Like the style of video. Trail hunter looks sweet!

  • @DerFledderer
    @DerFledderer Před 25 dny

    I like this style of video

  • @kevink2069
    @kevink2069 Před 27 dny +2

    Will the off road have the hybrid option soon? I just don’t see a justification on getting the high level trims at this point when the extra money can go into some actual good custom mods.

  • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080

    Notice on the white vehicle sticker, the Rear Axle Capacity (RAWR) is falsely reduced to 3475 lbs. The real max rating for that 9.5" axle is likely about 4500 lbs.

  • @MrJosh56040
    @MrJosh56040 Před 26 dny

    Would LOVE to see a video of blueberry vs the Off-Road Hybrid with premium package.
    Plus I'm struggling to make a purchasing decision between those two so it'd help 😅

  • @ragnarmagnusson4305
    @ragnarmagnusson4305 Před 27 dny +10

    Where’s the 1700 lbs. of payload we were promised? My Maverick Tremor has more payload (1250 lbs.). Last week, at the Ford dealer, I saw a 2024 Ranger 4x4 with 1699 lbs. of payload. I like this video format. Thanks for all the great videos and keep up the good work.

    • @kabloosh699
      @kabloosh699 Před 27 dny +3

      If payload matters get a lesser trim.

    • @jasonjac123
      @jasonjac123 Před 27 dny +4

      Exactly. Toyota kept quoting 1700 for trail hunter and it was complete BS.

    • @redrider7730
      @redrider7730 Před 27 dny +2

      That payload went into hauling around batteries, motors and never ending extra components that will need a whole lot more service and dealer only maintenance.

    • @keithcrandall1369
      @keithcrandall1369 Před 27 dny +2

      1250 pounds of payload actually isn’t too bad for the Trail hunter….but yeah, not even close to 1700lbs

    • @jimsomerville3924
      @jimsomerville3924 Před 27 dny +6

      @@kabloosh699 the TrailHunter is supposed to be the "overlander" which needs payload to carry all the over-priced camping junk. And the lower trims are still only around 1200 lb capacity. So the promised ratings were a marketing lie.

  • @DuyenNguyen-ui6mo
    @DuyenNguyen-ui6mo Před 27 dny

    What I like about Toyota and most car manufacturers for that matter is that they have a trim that fits your budget.

  • @joshuarittenhouse4938
    @joshuarittenhouse4938 Před 23 dny

    You guys should test these on the Everglades. They all seem to be built with similar specs. The Bronco is a ranger frame anyway 🤙

  • @brentbacon6148
    @brentbacon6148 Před 27 dny +1

    Is there any storage left under the backseat, when you have the Hybrid?

  • @michaelderby1655
    @michaelderby1655 Před 27 dny +11

    "Those bumpers and components can be added to other Tacomas". Cue the lower trim owners telling everybody their lesser trimmed Tacos are "just as good as a trail hunter" because they bought a bumper.

  • @MarcoAntonioAndrade-kk6ij

    Guys, Could you make a video to compare Tacoma Off Road regular 4 turbo vs 4 turbo Hybrid and what makes a difference between both and if it is worth spending the extra money for a Hybrid. Thank you. My name is Marco from Idaho and I am a Tacoma enthusiast.

  • @JoshHallingse
    @JoshHallingse Před 27 dny

    Love these. Wish they were a tad roomier in the cab.

  • @theguy9234
    @theguy9234 Před 26 dny +1

    I'll just get a frontier pro 4x for 40k$ instead. Don't need to spend 30k MORE for overlanding and mid level off roading. Got my 4runner 21 TRD OR 1 year ago for 38k$

  • @bubbabiker5653
    @bubbabiker5653 Před 27 dny +3

    $65k for a midsize!! And it's made in Mexico with cheap labor. No way Jose......

  • @Livestrong00782
    @Livestrong00782 Před 27 dny +1

    Wait you said a 6ft bed? On this Trailhunter or available in a 6ft bed? Bc that doesn’t look 6ft but I do like the way it looks.

  • @doc.christopherthompson324

    It's Good that Trail Hunter doesn't have a sunroof, because of upcoming hail storms & gonna be way easier to replace front windshield then a not necessary moon roof. I've always liked sitting on my 1982 & then 1993 Tacomas & then 1996 T100 roof top at the beach surf fishing. Fishing rod holders on front and back bumps, depending on my preference. Great ta be able to take naps in the 6ft. open truck's bed. Just one of the reasons i haven't got a Jeep yet. Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha, ❤

  • @GrandPines323
    @GrandPines323 Před 26 dny

    15:55 the rear seat legroom on the TRD Pro seems like a little more than what the extended cab model has.

  • @youarerightboss
    @youarerightboss Před 25 dny

    Depends on your application.
    TRD Pro for bajaing.
    Trailhunter for overlanding

  • @qdog494
    @qdog494 Před 27 dny +2

    For 9k more I ordered a F 350 power stroke XLT FX4. Those tacos are crazy expensive….but yes they hold their value well

    • @jasonhill2180
      @jasonhill2180 Před 27 dny +2

      A mans work truck! And your turbo will sound so much better! 6.7 turbo whistle is sweet. So is the Dodge though.

    • @qdog494
      @qdog494 Před 27 dny +1

      @@jasonhill2180 absolutely. For me the XLT gives me just enough tech without going overboard

  • @Mrplaywell
    @Mrplaywell Před 7 dny +1

    I'll keep rolling with my '20 4Runner indefinitely I guess. These prices and turbo birds nest engines are a hard no for me.

  • @FrogKingGreat
    @FrogKingGreat Před 26 dny

    Thanks for pricing… looks like I’m sticking with my Bowtie, going to get my daughter the ZR2 Colorado. I’ve always been a Chevy guy for 30 years. Wanted to venture out and get my daughter a TACO but ZR2 pricing is better

  • @user-yj1py2jw1i
    @user-yj1py2jw1i Před 26 dny

    A slide in Camper would work well on the long bed model

  • @7sunsetmaro7
    @7sunsetmaro7 Před 27 dny

    They added the bed cubby on the Trailhunter. How nice of them.....

  • @js6033
    @js6033 Před 27 dny

    HOW LONG does the hybrid power last?

  • @ohjeep76
    @ohjeep76 Před 27 dny +1

    TFL as usual making great video on the fly at an event when time is limited. I dont think people appreciate the skill and years of experience to pull these off. Keep em coming

  • @derrickkekeli8262
    @derrickkekeli8262 Před 26 dny

    With that price. Buy the LC250 and use the change for offroad tyres and bash plates in future when you retire and want to go full time offroading

  • @reptoid7340
    @reptoid7340 Před 27 dny

    This is great news! I guess I will keep my 2nd gen for another 10 more years until the market cools off. I’m in no hurry.

  • @mueldaddy
    @mueldaddy Před 26 dny

    Can you guys talk about how the hybrid works. Can it be defeated? Is there certain drive settings that will defeat it like running in 4 wheel drive high or in Sport mode? Etc…

  • @Random_Vince
    @Random_Vince Před 27 dny

    Great video!! I saw all of it. Can yall please make this video you spoke about on 30:08