Conclusion!? Dealer had it for 6 MONTHS! Crazy Wrangler (Part 4)
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- čas přidán 20. 03. 2022
- Let's install and program the brand-new ABS module on this 2018 Jeep Wrangler and ship it back to the customer.
The Jeep throws a curve ball in the programming procedure, so it might be time to pay the local dealer a visit :)
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Enjoy!
Ivan
***2-WEEK UPDATE****
Well, I usually don't post videos until the final repair is 100% verified and customer drives the vehicle for at least a couple weeks...watch till the end. The Jeep will be back in a future episode ;) - Auta a dopravní prostředky
One of those jobs you wish you never started, but you're helping a guy out that couldn't get it anywhere else. If Ivan can't fix it, it can't be fixed. You'll get er figured out!
Those shops have destroyed all the electrical connections. That's unfortunate.
You take personal responsibility for the repairs on a vehicle that was engineered to be unreliable. True integrity is rare and I appreciate your ownership as a liaison between the client and a terrible manufacturer.
Glad I still drive my 03 Chevy. After 19 years. And 365k miles. Time to get a new trans or rebuild it myself. And rebuild transfer case. Invest in a few low cost trans tools. And away we go. I'm ready for this task even tho I'm pushing 68 yrs old.
Love watching your Jeep repair videos. They keep me convince me that keeping my old Jeep is a good move.
This is why this old retired master mechanic only works on some classic cars. Points, plugs and condensers. No computers and wires that usually make sense. I leave this sort of mess to shops like Pine Hollow. Great video showing your expertise!
This has been a wonderful series! You've been hitting them out of the park lately man. Well done!
Thanks for the feedback Steve!
IVAN,AWESOME series full of great information really much appreciated for taking the time to show all this always learning from the best.
That’s why it’s nice to have multiple scan tools. Some of the special functions in our tools don’t always work as they are supposed to. I had a sonata hybrid in with a low hybrid battery and my launch tool had the force engine start procedure to recharge the hybrid battery but it just would not work. Hooked up the snap-on and it started right up and charged the battery. It’s nice to have a launch, Autel, snap-on, and a cardaq to use with the factory stuff when necessary. It’s certainly not feasible for most people but when working for an independent on high volume of all makes/models it’s basically a necessity.
Another great multi part diag and repair. Your skills are off the charts man!
The owner of that Jeep needs to element-proof that vehicle. Reinstall the wheel well covers, all of the undercovers, and periodically rise the underside of all the mud and road salt that collects there. Looking for big problems otherwise.
And exhaust
And then sell it! 😂
It's just an expensive trail toy. It's bound to have problems being splashed and banged around. New jeeps are just show toys. They are so rough going through the woods unless you upgrade all the suspension out (really expensive options) to make it softer instead of taller maybe it would be a good trail rig. I'd just wear a coat and buy a razer or other trail designed toy with a travel suspension. You could make a crawler out of it but then you'd have to worry about crushing body panels. With loads of modules and connectors all over this thing, I wouldn't want to drive it anywhere near a trail and keep it out of every northern state in the country. These usually drive fine in California.
@@ATSNorthernMI until the razor blows the rear or front differential and you are stuck. I have a Rubicon and drive everywhere, do off-roading in Vermont every weekend.
revert it to fully stock, complete with new factory harness and all modules. problem solved 🤣🤣🤣
Nice work Keith, I mean Ivan! You make this stuff look so simple, but we know that is not quite so! Thanks!
gotta love the view on top of those central pa hills
I wasn't as confident as you about the fix but all indications pointed to the module for sure. As you said though, "we'll get it" and we know you will. Thanks Ivan!
Interesting that the issue came back after a few weeks Ivan.. still looks like electrical wiring / connector issues continue to prevail.. Thanks for taking us along. Cheers!
Masterful diagnostic work on this tough one ! Testing the work as hard as can be, to prove it's really fixed, must make for happy customers. If only dealerships and most shops operated like this, their reputations would improve.
The wonderful world of electronics!
When you get it next time, hopefully the problem will be easier to find then this past problem.
Good luck Ivan! Hope to see the next follow up soon.
Im just glad Ivan gets to have some fun test driving
👍
Good videos. I’m amazed people would drive what is basically a computer through water without any wet weather protection.
Worse... It's a network of computers!
So retarded. Another jeep that’s all show, no function. Laughing from my 99 4Runner with minimal digital bullshit.
Ivan.. You gotta wrap that plug with some zip ties-- under the front wheel, with the broken tabs. There's nothing keeping it from rattling loose really. They have those folding locks, but they don't work if the tabs are broken; and when they rattle loose, it lets water in and shorts easy.. Given that the wheel is right there-- I'd probably just wrap everything in plastic ziplock sandwich bags. lol
I'd wrap those connections with Scotch Rubber Splicing tape and then zip tie them.
I’ve done that with success when tabs are broken too
I found it amazing that one module going bad caused so much havoc. It certainly doesn't help that there are no inner fenders as well. Even though the connectors are sealed and the wires have plastic insulation, water and moisture still gets in. I work for the phone company and used to fix the phone cables outside and water was one of our biggest enemies. Plastic insulation will eventually allow water to get in and corrode the wires and there are also salts and such on the road that add to it. In this case, you also have the wire harnesses that are exposed to the elements that can get water in them and cause shorts and ground ckts out. Wonderful diagnosis on what looked like a giant mess. Good Luck.
Great job bro learn everytime I watch.its amazing.
Wow! What a tour de force diagnosis and repair.!! On part1 when I saw all those connectors swinging in the wind and unprotected, I thought its one or more of these connectors. Turns out that was only partially right as the ABS module had become...haunted.
This jeep is a knightmare Too much of a challenge for my nerves but Ivan has nerves of steel. Keep up the great work Ivan.
Bless Awesome series. Love that scan tool. Thanks ☺️
Great series of videos! Can't wait for Brodozer 5! Hopefully you'll solve this royal PITA.
Never going to see the end of this one until it's in the crusher.
I'd just find a nice deep flooded quary and push it over the edge.
Amazing Ivan! All I can say is that you had better charged a lot more than your one hour diagnosis fee!!
Beautiful area. It probably made driving with hearing protection worth it. Too bad it still has issues but it is a Jeep, after all.. Thanks, Ivan!
Glad to see the Divorce worked in your favor!!!🤣🤣🤣Great Job!
Have air in the tire while plugging,as trying to do without is a real workout.✌️
Love the videos.
What could be better than FCA components Made in Mexico on the outside of the box. Inside box, second level of packaging, assembled in Mexico from components sourced from China, India, Vietnam, Philippines and Korea. Bonus footage. Jeep pushed into middle of field and set ablaze. You really have some heart. Thank you.
I love how Jeeps look, but it ends there. I hope the Bronco becomes reliable competition.
Without splash guards replaced and some spray on sealer on damaged wiring and connectors this is a ticking time bomb for a come back from an owner with unrealistic expectations
Great Job on repair!
Wonderful series, you can definitely tell this Jeep has had the crappy out of it. You have to wonder why all these bulk connectors were disconnected in the first place, and then for it to be done obviously with Force or little care or no knowledge.
Makes me very happy that I own a YJ. Yes it's got an engine computer, but that's about it.
After performing the ABS initialization you must do a ORC intialization to complete. When the Orc portion is performed the g sensor and yaw are calibrated.
Great series Ivan! - I think a rag in the gas tank and a match is the fix next ;)
Nice guys at the Jeep dealership.
Ivan, I love watching you slog through your methodical process of diagnosing these Crazy problems. This is supposed to be a “rugged off road vehicle” but is apparent it could not survive two or three trips through a foot of water. Like they say, necessity is the mother of invention, maybe some day a refurb kit will be available to ruggedize the city vehicles… I have a 1967 Kaiser m715 Jeep. I can fix anything on it with a pliers and a combo screwdriver …. And a hammer! ahh the good ole days…
I’d like to see a failure analysis on the abs module. Did water get in?
Great work, Ivan, as usual!
6 months? How rediculious!
Very nice diagnostic
Wow...
Great work again, Ivan!
Well, dealers don't make money fixing this kind of breakdowns.
The only thing they care is to change the oil, brake pads... Maybe timing betls and off to the next one!
Sad but true..
Hope you have a great luck and a great power
Thanks for that view of the beloved mountains that I miss so much. Good work on the Jeep. I can't believe these Jeeps are built so fragile and vulnerable to weather. What the heck is a Jeep for except to be out in the weather, fording streams and climbing over rough terrain?
Ivan, when it come back, goes crazy with the garden hose on the wiring, not just a spray bottle. Might start with the bottle and then carefully goes up with the hose. A puddle is more of a bucket than rain...
You sure Ivan you used a updated tire plug !! It never ends but then again look at the total condtion of the vehicle . Thanks I van great video !!
Very thorough troubleshooting. Muy bueno
you got wedding ringed on that one.
Great job, thanks for sharing
Great Job 👏 thank you for sharing this video
Lol Ivan watching you drive that thing on the highway was hilarious! Welcome to the jeep death wobble club. 99 percent of lifted ones do that.
Man, I saw the video thumbnail and I said myself - yeah - that might be interesting. Ivan is trying again "no money required" fix xD I love those ones. Lets see...
jeep the brand that just keeps giving us videos dont you just love them
I love the bonus footage 😅
Ivan, been sitting on pins and needles waiting for Part 4. Your work is brilliant but my overall impression regarding this vehicle is that it has been abused to the point it may not be repairable. Every connector you touched has been a challenge to put back together even for your most talented and patient hands. And then the fender wells need to be replaced. Without those its just a matter of time before rocks, gravel and water take their toll. In this case it looks like that time is about two weeks. Thanks again for the scope data from Part 3. Thanks for Sharing!
This isn't repairable? :D Man you should check out some of Samcrac's or Rich Rebuild's projects :D
Agreed with you, don't expect to run the vehicle nicely with no warning lights if you start playing around and modify it.
Have him sign a waver, guarantee "if he replaces the fender liners" and whatever shields that are missing or all bets are off. Otherwise that idiot will live on your door step.
The cracked windshield kind of says it all.
Yep connecters are water resistant, not water proof. The owner does look like he's having fun with it. :D
Good for you 🙂 you have near, test tracks....
damn, we're not done but can't wait for the next vid
Great job! But there's still a ghost in the CAN C bus. Maybe it's the wiring problem I was initially thinking - a short can bring down a module, if it lasts for long enough. Or, maybe, I'm just wrong :-)
Wow you were looking forward to getting rid of that saga truck lol. But it's back to haunt you again! Revenge!!! Great video of the brake replacement module and tire fix! Let's see what's going on part 5!! Haha. Nice bonus footage! Wouldn't be complete without Ivan's Bonus Footage!! Many thumbs up 👍 👌
Thanks Josh! I will have nightmares about the Brodozer 🤣
Old trick with tire plugs. Get yourself a drill bit and size it to the reamer. Drill instead of ream. much faster and plug inserts easier. Works great.
Oh, and keep up the great work!
@Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics , if you find that this problem returns in the future. You might want to look at the infotainment system control board. In my 2018 ram 2500hd, this is what has been causing problems (and they refuse to replace or fix). In my vehicle its due to a leak in the dash thats been there since manufacture. In some versions of FCA products. This unit acts as a intermediary for brakes system, dash, GPS, key fobs and the climate control and seat and wheel heaters. Food for thought if the problem persists.
Excellent performance
aww crap playing up again, you did such a good repair..love the ear muffs look Ivan..hehehehe
Again, another great video.
Great job
Time to look for what blew the ABS module. Missing liners and trashed connectors should help the search...slightly.
Had a similar problem where I had over 50 fault codes sometimes I could start my vehicle and it was okay sometimes it would start and no power steering and missing that all kinds of codes dealer had it for 6 weeks was a wiring harness under the driver seat so when you sat down every now and then it hit just right and shorted out the PCM in the communications
Yes,I bet you it's basically the same as the Mitsubishi ABS module,no wonder I would stick with a Holden which is almost 20 years old & it still has the original Bosch ABS module & pump fitted,I haven't had trouble with anything that's Bosch !
Great case study and extras. Now to find out what's going on.... Oh No not a comeback ;-(
I'd be stripping every piece of electronics off that thing and make it old school. Wasn't set up for the highway anyway. as noted in your drive to the dealer. anti locks going down that hill (mountain) side you looked off of would defeat its purpose.
Still a great video series. I thought I could get some rest. But no. Looking forward for the next part of the saga. keep um coming.
After all that work, dash lights returned?
That sucks.
I'm wondering if that funky connector is somehow shorting out the ABS module!?!
Oh well, more video material I suppose.
Great work either way 👍
Very hard and nice job
Still intermittent failure - YIKES! I've chased these myself on my own vehicles, one for over a year. I recommend you locate and clean all ground connections. If that doesn't work, the next step is probably replacing the engine wiring harness, which appears to have been heavily abused.
Impressed that you got out of the dealership for less than $100! 😄
Me too 😂
If a Brake Module is bad and won't always operate the pump on command, I like to run the pump off a fused wire right from the battery and listen to the pump, if it sounds loud or raspy, the high load from the pump may be taking out the electronic module. You could also check with an amp meter in line of you can determine the correct expected load.
Same for a blower motor possibly killing the resistor/controller.
Good job….. I used to do this type of work. Retired from working on cars now. Automotive repair is a hard job, but I enjoyed it in my younger days. Chrysler would send me vehicles that others couldn’t figure out. It was funny when I took body electrical classes. Teacher would ask questions and I was the only person that would raise his hand. I thought to myself…. Doesn’t anyone else know how this stuff works???? Later the teacher asked why I was there. I said I needed the class for my certification. He shook his head yes.
These are the jobs that you spend days on, can't charge the customer all of the time that you have spent on it, drive it around for a few days think it's fixed, give it back to the customer two days later there on the phone problems back, drives you nuts, my money's on a wheel speed sensor. I reckon you can fix it no problem Ivan
Seems like those new Wranglers are made for city slickers and not for serious off roading. Impressive diagnose procedure Ivan
The owner didn't help matters. Made a sketchy rig more sketchy.
Whenever we replace a unit on our franchise products we have to carry out a depressurisation check so the unit knows it’s unlocking the correct wheel and stuff isn’t mixed up . It seems like that test was missing in your programming on the scan tool.
A neighbor of mine has a 2009 Camry that had a bad ABS module which had side symptoms of a jumping speedometer and the air conditioning didn’t work. We saw a CZcams video which showed the problem and told how to fix it. He was able to get a used one from Ebay we put it in and problem solved!
That's one hell of a crack in that Windscreen!
Hey Ivan,great series,is the auto authority subscription an additional need for the thinktool or is that part of the scanner subscription,could you please send the link thanks. You are the Wizard!
Well, at least I know where to look if my Jeep JL develops similar issues. Thanks... OH.... I recently jad a flat on my pick up. A thick piece of plastic had punctured it....
I’m curious if you open up that module if the power connection solder joint is broken. They were notorious for it
Hi Ivan….love your work! What was the follow up to this saga?
In the UK, there are BRO SCOOTERS, but luckily, they don't have any BCMs ECMs or CAN BUSES on them, However, they are so badly abused, that you'll need a Bus after you buy one, so you can get home.
Wow, nice work! And to think we all (me anyway) wanted to blame no mud flaps, wet/damaged connectors or all the mods done. If you did a software update on your scan tool, would that avoid a trip to the dealer? oh, just watched the last 10 seconds of the video, I may take that back..
Hi Ivan... we've all been there with these problem cars... I feel for you but know you'll get it done! You mention programming the ABS unit and make mention of "auto aut"... didn't quite catch that part. Can you expand on this?
Great work sorting that out Jeep from HELL !
My big question will it stay fixed? Great series Ivan
parts 5,6, and 7 to come. It's a chain letter
All hail The Great Ivan.
WOW, the old days were about bleeding and adjusting the brakes...
Wondering if cutting off the connectors and soldering jumpers would fix the issue for good.
Maybe an input from the ABS module is disrupting the CAN bus making it seem like the ABS module is at fault? But I’m glad CZcams has recommended me your channel because dang your good
A great series Ivan. Sad to see its not over! The case study continues. It is a shame the Think Tool Pro didn't program the module despite saying it had. Will you follow up with the Think Tool people? it would be nice to know the outcome re the tool.
You can live with it telling you "I can't". Different story with "I did" but didn't.
@@dlewis9760 Very true
Those large cam lock connectors are so finicky I wonder if there’s a way to clamp them tightly when they are broken. Maybe a C clamp that’s left in place or similar.