My 2023 DPP OU viability rankings

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  • @BKCplaysPokemon
    @BKCplaysPokemon  Před 10 měsíci +40

    www.smogon.com/forums/threads/dpp-ou-viability-ranking-mk-v.3683332/
    they're in the process of surveying players for their ranks right now so I'm sure it will change in the near future (aka flygon will not be #6 anymore lol)

  • @thepunisher6674
    @thepunisher6674 Před 10 měsíci +228

    The new objectively correct DPP rankings have arrived

  • @nilanc1670
    @nilanc1670 Před 10 měsíci +76

    My opinion on the dpp viability rankings just dropped

  • @jackclifton5434
    @jackclifton5434 Před 10 měsíci +51

    Fun fact: This video is only 4 minutes shorter than Minions: The Rise of Gru

    • @sandrahwu
      @sandrahwu Před 10 měsíci +20

      It’s effectively longer than the film when you take out the credits.

    • @ChocolateSoda1
      @ChocolateSoda1 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Most concise CZcams Pokémon video

  • @stupidflandrs4856
    @stupidflandrs4856 Před 10 měsíci +106

    Timestamps for reference:
    S RANK:
    Latias 3:32
    Tyranitar 4:42
    Jirachi 8:15
    A+ RANK:
    Heatran 16:54
    Breloom 23:56
    Gyarados 26:51
    Skarmory 30:15
    Clefable 30:44
    A RANK:
    Metagross 33:12
    Gliscor 36:40
    Swampert 37:46
    Flygon 40:32
    Rotom 41:55
    Empoleon 43:10
    Zapdos 45:11
    A- RANK:
    Gengar 47:00
    Starmie 48:00
    Dragonite 49:45
    Magnezone/Magneton (not discussed, see separate vid)
    B+ RANK:
    Machamp 52:46
    Lucario 55:26
    Azelf 57:41
    Hippowdon 58:29
    B RANK:
    Suicune 1:01:55
    Infernape 1:04:35
    Kingdra 1:06:16
    Bronzong 1:07:32
    Quagsire 1:09:03
    B- RANK:
    Donphan 1:09:48
    Gastrodon 1:14:03
    Roserade 1:14:42
    Scizor 1:15:14
    Blissey 1:15:50
    Nidoqueen 1:16:10
    Milotic 1:16:36
    Slowbro/Slowking 1:17:15
    Raikou 1:18:41
    Mamoswine 1:20:01
    Celebi 1:20.37
    Uxie/Mesprit 1:20:56
    C+ RANK:
    Togekiss 1:21:37
    Rhyperior 1:22:28
    Abomasnow 1:23:01
    Venusaur 1:23:31

  • @mmaaxxkk5177
    @mmaaxxkk5177 Před 10 měsíci +18

    >get back from walk
    >new BKC video
    >DPP OU vr
    >life is good

  • @boop53
    @boop53 Před 10 měsíci +83

    two of your S tiers are psychic types despite the fact that Kingambit is at #1 in usage smh

    • @spiciestbirb
      @spiciestbirb Před 10 měsíci +42

      You've made an easy mistake - Kingambit was dexited in gen 4

    • @dragoninstalling5446
      @dragoninstalling5446 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ⁠@@spiciestbirbSo close! dark type didn’t exist in gen 4!

    • @danyg5639
      @danyg5639 Před 5 měsíci

      @@dragoninstalling5446or steel types

    • @queenofrodents
      @queenofrodents Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@dragoninstalling5446it surprises me Tauros fell off since Hyper Beam recharge was there till Gen 5, when as we all know, it took the power of the three genies to nerf it

    • @niknak8412
      @niknak8412 Před 3 měsíci

      Well, steel still resisted dark in gen 2, so obviously, jirachi can handle kingambit.

  • @adamriley9241
    @adamriley9241 Před 10 měsíci +47

    My own unique opinion on Nintendos Pokemon franchise and they amazing Fourth Generation Pokemon Platnium, and its SMOGON online Competitive Over Used bracket has been updated as of today September 6th 2023! Thanks Cowboy BKC.

  • @BeeEmpress
    @BeeEmpress Před 10 měsíci +25

    I’ve always said My 2023 DPP OU viability rankings

  • @avvvqvvv99
    @avvvqvvv99 Před 10 měsíci +18

    S Rank:
    Electivire
    Dusknoir
    Weavile
    Yanmega
    Cresselia
    Porygon-Z

  • @SarkFaLL
    @SarkFaLL Před 10 měsíci +55

    My takeaway from all of these videos, after hours upon hours of research, is that I am entirely hopeless at teambuilding. I know it's common knowledge that it is a difficult talent to fine tune, but honestly it is a herculean task. I could very well master differential calculus before understanding how to put 6 pocket monsters together coherently in a children's video game. Amazing.

    • @disasterarea9341
      @disasterarea9341 Před 10 měsíci +10

      meanwhile im a good teambuilder and i probably "mastered" it *after* i got a masters degree in maths so... checks out. didnt do a ton of differential calculus tho

    • @DantinozMC
      @DantinozMC Před 10 měsíci +23

      A lot is just trial and error though. Your first version of any team will always have flaws, you play the team and iterate through different small changes to eventually find a good combination of pokemon and moves. Of course a lot of it is also knowing the meta, but trial and error is the true essence of a good team.

    • @brassllama098
      @brassllama098 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Advice from a novice like me is to keep building and testing! I still find it very overwhelming but I also find that I've gotten much better at identifying and patching up weaknesses after testing. Building teams for multiple generations and tiers has also helped me learn about my own style of play and the kinds of mons I'm comfortable with, practice always makes perfect

  • @Skyace13
    @Skyace13 Před 9 měsíci +7

    “Toxic ruins Gliscor” is such a weird thing to hear as someone who started competitive after it got poison heal

  • @CollieDaze
    @CollieDaze Před 10 měsíci +21

    BKC: “Viability rankings shouldn’t be taken too seriously”
    Also BKC: *posts a 1.5 hour long video on viability rankings*

    • @DJFracus
      @DJFracus Před 10 měsíci +15

      only 1.5 hour long video isn't very serious for BKC

  • @Taliheim
    @Taliheim Před 10 měsíci +15

    18:30 yeah, people definitely forget that there are three types of viability - absolute, relative, and meta - that all simultaneously play a role in the mon's final viability. Absolute never changes at all, Relative isn't necessarily that impactful (like machamp vs. hariyama, hari's absolute viability is high enough that running it for the seismic resist subs or a fire resist can be worth it simply because you're not making yourself use an unmon if those aspects dont apply to the current game), and Meta is just that, metagame dependent, things becoming better or worse as the result of the current popularity and perceived viability of things

  • @TheDavidLol
    @TheDavidLol Před 10 měsíci +9

    Babe wake up, BKC posted more DPP OU content

  • @TeriaWiz
    @TeriaWiz Před 10 měsíci +10

    Video idea: what if Fairy type clefable was added to BW OU? A magic guarder with a Draco immunity would have to reshape the tier, I imagine. In the scenario I imagine, it's the *only* fairy in the game, and it keeps its gen 5 movepool (so no moonblast), but whatever makes for a more interesting conversation

    • @Doug_Edwards99
      @Doug_Edwards99 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Wouldn’t we also have the other previous gen Pokémon that became Fairy Types, like Azumaril, Gardevoir, and Whimsicott?

  • @marsonlinebb
    @marsonlinebb Před 10 měsíci +8

    i just wanna say one thing i love about your videos is how positive you are about each pokemon and its role in whatever metagame you're talking about. if you have any biases against playstyles or strats i certainly havent noticed (gen 5 ou notwithstanding) it is very refreshing to have that kind of positivity in a community where voices of dissent can definitely get to be a bit overbearing at times, which is definitely something ive definitely been guilty of in the past

  • @kessahmed647
    @kessahmed647 Před 10 měsíci +14

    Where is Iron Valiant??? Bruh

  • @mltprpz
    @mltprpz Před 10 měsíci +3

    finally, my oppinion on the gen 4 metagame has arrived

  • @jacobwhiteman4357
    @jacobwhiteman4357 Před 10 měsíci +8

    Probably one of my favourite types of BKC videos, viability ranking day is a good day

  • @Hologramburrito
    @Hologramburrito Před 10 měsíci +12

    i love latias versatility, both offensive and defensively.
    ive run weirdly good sets like grass knot, hp fire, surf, tbolt just for threat on specific mons and pivot around

  • @RomanceEnjoyer88
    @RomanceEnjoyer88 Před 10 měsíci +19

    So glad I have the objective viability rankings available thanks to BKC.

  • @disasterarea9341
    @disasterarea9341 Před 10 měsíci +8

    clef in the top 10 comfortably meanwhile it was UU while it was current... amazing how much things change. ^^

    • @jacksonsmith2955
      @jacksonsmith2955 Před 10 měsíci

      not sure I would call #8 comfortably top ten, but really impressive nonetheless

  • @oopsalldeoxys5060
    @oopsalldeoxys5060 Před 10 měsíci +8

    So true bkc
    Ngl sciz in the same tier as donphan is kind crazy

  • @GoTELuckyCharms
    @GoTELuckyCharms Před 6 měsíci +2

    I really like agility metagross. It helps knowing I have ghosts out of the way (looking at you, rotom..) so I can boom after spamming mash and never getting that +1 but still balling because boom

  • @matttennis
    @matttennis Před 10 měsíci +2

    18:35 Somewhere, Ciele is crying a bit. Great video as always, Kev. Nice to see the Heatran support in particular.

  • @ccckk3639
    @ccckk3639 Před 10 měsíci +8

    not gonna lie, this is me when DPP OU viability gets ranked

  • @Last_Respecter
    @Last_Respecter Před 10 měsíci +13

    Would love to see a seperate vid going over who you think is C+ and below out of those you left out and what potential sets you feel could work for them. Aka a dpp shitmon tier list

  • @Uzimerked
    @Uzimerked Před 10 měsíci +3

    Thank Christ. Just finished my last lecture for the day and I was preparing for a wonderful nap

  • @teacherofsinnoh3790
    @teacherofsinnoh3790 Před 10 měsíci +1

    very interessing video, thanks for this one !

  • @Pishooter
    @Pishooter Před 6 měsíci +2

    I agree with most, i just think rose is should be B not B-, its a very solid lead with dual hazards and status and a good mid game spiker cuz either tentacruel or starmie wouldn't want to eat her leaf storms with hazards up

  • @Smashfan258
    @Smashfan258 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Scrolling thru these comments have me confused and laughing lol

  • @luckycandy101
    @luckycandy101 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Just came in to check if Infernape rose from C rank. I'm thankful he's back in B. Please someone find some new tech to get him back to A 🙏

  • @BottleDeopt
    @BottleDeopt Před 10 měsíci +2

    One of the more notable comments regarding Latias' suspect test in DPP was that her presence in the standard metagame was "underwhelming" in a metagame with t-tar with bulky steels predominantly running the metagame to keep certain offensive threats in check but it seems like Latias in DPP OU has been more than pulling its own weight.

  • @Qaos
    @Qaos Před 10 měsíci +2

    as someone who joined the competitive scene in gen 8, the phrase "toxic cripples gliscor" really hit me out of nowhere before i remembered that it didn't get poison heal until gen 5

  • @ArtoriasSamus
    @ArtoriasSamus Před 10 měsíci +3

    FINALLY - PEAK DPP OU CONTENT

  • @jenisia3600
    @jenisia3600 Před 9 měsíci

    Love any gen 4 tier list vid. You gotta do a uu one now

  • @diamonddisarray6479
    @diamonddisarray6479 Před 10 měsíci +2

    YOOO favorite video format by favorite Pokémon knower about favorite competitive tier LFG

  • @Gabby-is7jx
    @Gabby-is7jx Před 10 měsíci +3

    That's almost Cynthia's team in the thumbnail!

  • @frogvie3624
    @frogvie3624 Před 10 měsíci +5

    hello basic kitchen cookware, this video got me thinking; what is claydol’s place in adv ou and how did it get there?

  • @samzito8067
    @samzito8067 Před 10 měsíci +4

    i think that everything in this video is correct and inphallible and also my own, newly updated, opinion

  • @awesomedk1
    @awesomedk1 Před 10 měsíci +3

    RIP spiritomb

  • @YoungSimbaFGC
    @YoungSimbaFGC Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for the Donphan team btw I'm going to try this on the ladder and see what I can do

  • @Deredeo13
    @Deredeo13 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Off topic, where's the Nicholas Winding Refn tier list? Short list? Probably, but the quality potenial tangents of discussion.....

    • @BKCplaysPokemon
      @BKCplaysPokemon  Před 10 měsíci +4

      (in order)
      S
      Too Old to Die Young
      Drive
      A+
      Only God Forgives
      A
      Fear X
      Copenhagen Cowboy
      Pusher 3
      Pusher 2
      Neon Demon
      A-
      Touch of Crude
      Bleeder
      Valhalla Rising
      B+
      Bronson
      Pusher
      Circus Maximus

    • @Deredeo13
      @Deredeo13 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I would argue with Bronson in B+ but that A+ for Only God Forgives wipes all sins

  • @user-zk6hl2jc2i
    @user-zk6hl2jc2i Před 10 měsíci +2

    DPP 🎉🔥🎉 my fav gen

  • @keiharris332
    @keiharris332 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Tha money bout to get different

  • @madvorakCZ
    @madvorakCZ Před 10 měsíci +1

    Please make a video about playing DPP OU teams without Rapid Spin.

  • @deshshshah845
    @deshshshah845 Před 10 měsíci +1

    chop chop poke-boy, eyes aint gonna close themselves

  • @santasangre996
    @santasangre996 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Is this your favorite ou?

  • @nomnom2407
    @nomnom2407 Před 10 měsíci

    So what was the metagame in BW when gen 5 first came out?

  • @YoungSimbaFGC
    @YoungSimbaFGC Před 2 měsíci

    No way you left the bathroom break in the video bruh

  • @georgeedwardes5318
    @georgeedwardes5318 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Just started playing a bit of Dpp again, wanna play some games?

  • @deandix5654
    @deandix5654 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Would you be willing to do one of these for BW OU as well?

    • @DennisPragerIsGodUWU
      @DennisPragerIsGodUWU Před 10 měsíci +6

      Anything is possible but I don't think he will make one for a tier he hates

    • @DennisPragerIsGodUWU
      @DennisPragerIsGodUWU Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@gnomefrompinkerton Keldeo is one of the most notorious in current meta.
      But you right. Meta hella centralized.

  • @closefomo
    @closefomo Před 10 měsíci +1

    What are your thoughts on the new Swans album?

  • @giroppa99
    @giroppa99 Před 10 měsíci

    La grande breloom

  • @kylekiske_
    @kylekiske_ Před 10 měsíci

    12:36
    "Step outside"
    I don't think that most people watching this will.

  • @LordBeau
    @LordBeau Před 10 měsíci +2

    1 hour of BKC talking viability for a metagame I don't particularly enjoy
    yeah this video is gonna go hard
    e: re: 30:48 clef ain't banworthy but god it's so annoying and it's astounding how annoying it is with those awful stats

  • @Dave_Chrome
    @Dave_Chrome Před 10 měsíci +3

    Aerodactyl?

    • @Dave_Chrome
      @Dave_Chrome Před 10 měsíci +1

      Just realized Weavile isnt here either

  • @The_Dreamless616
    @The_Dreamless616 Před 9 měsíci

    Would you suggest G4 as a good start point for competitive play?

  • @-_soy_-888
    @-_soy_-888 Před 10 měsíci

    Obviously

  • @Vincent-fv1ch
    @Vincent-fv1ch Před 10 měsíci +3

    BKC makes 1.5 hour long video on why some mons are better than others
    Also BKC: "There is no objectively better pokemon"

  • @Nootathotep
    @Nootathotep Před 10 měsíci

    It took you nearly 17 minutes to reach A+ 😭

  • @gwabafett
    @gwabafett Před 10 měsíci

    My opinion on DPP OU rankings just dropped

  • @yaokene
    @yaokene Před měsícem

    Breloom stays winning

  • @barneythemusicmaker1098
    @barneythemusicmaker1098 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Rip pinned comment

  • @schroederluck7984
    @schroederluck7984 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Where’s Ferrothorn? 😡 disliked

  • @PokeBrodie
    @PokeBrodie Před 10 měsíci +3

    where that gsc Viability buddy🫵🏾