Ok, this video is awesome. I love this kind of video. These really are some ambitious teams, and that’s great to see. Older gens are often less approachable in part because it can be really hard to understand what non-standard Pokémon do and what’s really worth using. This video has already really fleshed out my understanding of DPP, and I’m pausing to write this before I watch the second half. This feels like as good a place as any to ask about Cradily in DPP. Cradily is my favorite Pokémon ever, and I’ve heard that DPP is the Gen where it’s the most OU viable (even if it’s still really bad). What’s your take on Cradily in DPP? What would you pair it with outside of the obligatory sand setter? Do you think that it has a genuine niche at this point in the meta? I’m glad that you’re making so much content, especially due to how awful Sw/Sh has gotten. I’ve gotten into ADV OU because of your content, and it’s become my favorite tier that I’ve ever played. I just wanted to thank you for making such awesome, informative content.
thanks so much for the kind words! I was a big curse cradily fan around 7 1/2 years ago and spammed it in a lot of tournaments, as did a few other players. it was an excellent fit on bulkier spiking teams. it dropped off once breloom became even more insanely popular, but with loom going down in usage and all the clef stuff we're seeing right now, dily might have a niche after all. here's a log from fall 2012 of my beloved old dily team in a tournament battle: pastebin.com/XJiv9dvW
At 50:28 you mentioned Venomoth, which caught my attention since it's literally the first time I've ever heard Venomoth being mentioned in the scope of DPP OU at all. Could you elaborate on what its potential merits would be / how you would want to run it (outside the obvious inferred Toxic Spikes)?
Venomoth @ Focus Sash Ability: Shield Dust EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Timid / Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Sleep Powder - Toxic Spikes - Bug Buzz - filler (uturn, hidden power, stun spore) same speed as roserade. I prefer modest so its bug buzz threatens the hell out of even spdef-invested azelf (which won't be running sash). shield dust means it doesn't get flinched by jirachi's iron head or confused by machamp's dpunch. machamp needs to run the rare combo of lum berry + stone edge (rare even on sash) to beat it.
Nice video idea, like it a lot. Cool to have on and listen too because the visuals are not so important. I'd appreciate if you upload more videos like these, provided they don't require all that much work from you. Just whenever you'd like to do this sort of thing again. It's good for me to pass some time.
Out of curiosity on the 2nd team, is there a reason why you didn't add 20 speed evs to tentacruel to outrun max speed adamant breloom or other base 70s same with jirachi? Personally i like the peace of mind of worrying about breloom less even if there's a Zapdos on my team
Seeing Cresselia in the thumbnail reminded me of this. Does anyone know why Game Freak/Nintendo decided to highlight Doubles as the official tournament format over singles? Is it stall being more difficult? The generally quicker matches? Personally, I've always preferred singles more but was curious if anyone knew more about the thought process behind it. Love ur vids BKC, you are elite and unique.
From what I’ve figured, it’s a combination of what you suggested and possibly to showcase some unique aspects that doubles offers. But primarily, for an irl base-game tournament, time is arguably *the* feature that really decides what is feasible - between venue hours, and the number of matches people need to play in a day/weekend. And because doubles matches not only have better counter play against stall but also have only 4 Pokémon, 2 attacks per turn, and generally fewer turns of just switches (I.e. long animations and no damage), doubles really become the only format that makes sense. If the Pokémon company wanted to run a singles tournament, it would have to be the weird bring-6-pick-3 format, which I believe is too volatile and, again, stall-prone.
zaaya my bad - I actually don’t know much about the 3v3 format and just assumed it more closely resembled 1v1, but it makes sense that fewer switch in options would mean fewer viable stall strategies
the changing viability of different mons, the different strategies that are enabled, and the many more possible moves per turn are all factors for sure
I tried the first team but went with offensive Bronzong with rain dance instead of meta and specs Kingdra instead of lati. Suprisingly nasty even though no scarf is used.
In the double dog team with the scarf rose lead, how is rose supposed to be played? Especially against azelf? Sleep powder and switch or leaf storm twice (tspikes doesnt look like an option because azelf alive with potential sash up sucks)? Not playing rose myself especially not the scarf variant so I'm curious on how it works in difficult matchups.
definitely sleep and switch. scarf sleep can get you off to a really good start against stuff that relies on outspeeding rose to stop it (azelf, jirachi, aero).
The fact that there’s a Ryperior set that has favorable odds to live a starmie hydro pump is fucking insane
rhyperior in sand is friggin indestructible with spdef investment. Its such a champion.
pls never let dpp die it's the best gen there's ever been.
i miss when dpp was main meta :(
Same... shoddy battle ladder was also on another level of quality.
37:34 BKC the Pokemon master even uses pokepaste for normal lists
This man is a Poke Team savant.
when i was 11 on battle revolution, i ran a rhyperior with three rock moves: rock wrecker, rock blast, and stone edge. godly stuff
Ok, this video is awesome. I love this kind of video. These really are some ambitious teams, and that’s great to see. Older gens are often less approachable in part because it can be really hard to understand what non-standard Pokémon do and what’s really worth using. This video has already really fleshed out my understanding of DPP, and I’m pausing to write this before I watch the second half.
This feels like as good a place as any to ask about Cradily in DPP. Cradily is my favorite Pokémon ever, and I’ve heard that DPP is the Gen where it’s the most OU viable (even if it’s still really bad). What’s your take on Cradily in DPP? What would you pair it with outside of the obligatory sand setter? Do you think that it has a genuine niche at this point in the meta?
I’m glad that you’re making so much content, especially due to how awful Sw/Sh has gotten. I’ve gotten into ADV OU because of your content, and it’s become my favorite tier that I’ve ever played. I just wanted to thank you for making such awesome, informative content.
thanks so much for the kind words! I was a big curse cradily fan around 7 1/2 years ago and spammed it in a lot of tournaments, as did a few other players. it was an excellent fit on bulkier spiking teams. it dropped off once breloom became even more insanely popular, but with loom going down in usage and all the clef stuff we're seeing right now, dily might have a niche after all.
here's a log from fall 2012 of my beloved old dily team in a tournament battle: pastebin.com/XJiv9dvW
@@BKCplaysPokemon from the log. BKC=BlazinKickenChicken
Is this true lol
@@EarthSpirit.easyzdota yes sir
@@BKCplaysPokemon TIL
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For anyone else who wanted it, here's the double mix double specs team:
Rotom-Mow @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Trick
- Leaf Storm
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt
Metagross @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Meteor Mash
- Explosion
- Earthquake
Heracross @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Megahorn
- Stone Edge
- Pursuit
Tyranitar @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 72 HP / 252 Atk / 56 SpA / 4 SpD / 124 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Crunch
- Fire Blast
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
Dragonite @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
Rash Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Extreme Speed
- Superpower
Starmie @ Choice Specs
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Rapid Spin
- Hydro Pump
- Trick
- Thunderbolt
Well at least we know BKC is hydrated
I love these teams, Gen 4 is such an amazing meta
The Pokemon Reborn soundtrack reminds me that I still need to finish it :D
Great video as always
I see Rhyperior on the thumbnail? Instant like. Love to see the creativity you brew up every time
At 50:28 you mentioned Venomoth, which caught my attention since it's literally the first time I've ever heard Venomoth being mentioned in the scope of DPP OU at all. Could you elaborate on what its potential merits would be / how you would want to run it (outside the obvious inferred Toxic Spikes)?
Venomoth @ Focus Sash
Ability: Shield Dust
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid / Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sleep Powder
- Toxic Spikes
- Bug Buzz
- filler (uturn, hidden power, stun spore)
same speed as roserade. I prefer modest so its bug buzz threatens the hell out of even spdef-invested azelf (which won't be running sash). shield dust means it doesn't get flinched by jirachi's iron head or confused by machamp's dpunch. machamp needs to run the rare combo of lum berry + stone edge (rare even on sash) to beat it.
I like how the gen4 rankings use PMD icons. Truly the best spin off games
Yes! Thank you.
I just found the ADV vid earlier today and commented that I would like to see more. Perfect timing!
Nice video idea, like it a lot. Cool to have on and listen too because the visuals are not so important. I'd appreciate if you upload more videos like these, provided they don't require all that much work from you. Just whenever you'd like to do this sort of thing again. It's good for me to pass some time.
Out of curiosity on the 2nd team, is there a reason why you didn't add 20 speed evs to tentacruel to outrun max speed adamant breloom or other base 70s same with jirachi? Personally i like the peace of mind of worrying about breloom less even if there's a Zapdos on my team
adamant max loom is bad/wasteful and thus nobody runs it. I'm a real scrooge when it comes to evs.
Yeah bro I know it’s been a few years but I tried that team today it’s so friggin slow I can’t do anything with it 😂
Late night snack now with bkc
Seeing Cresselia in the thumbnail reminded me of this. Does anyone know why Game Freak/Nintendo decided to highlight Doubles as the official tournament format over singles?
Is it stall being more difficult? The generally quicker matches? Personally, I've always preferred singles more but was curious if anyone knew more about the thought process behind it.
Love ur vids BKC, you are elite and unique.
From what I’ve figured, it’s a combination of what you suggested and possibly to showcase some unique aspects that doubles offers. But primarily, for an irl base-game tournament, time is arguably *the* feature that really decides what is feasible - between venue hours, and the number of matches people need to play in a day/weekend. And because doubles matches not only have better counter play against stall but also have only 4 Pokémon, 2 attacks per turn, and generally fewer turns of just switches (I.e. long animations and no damage), doubles really become the only format that makes sense. If the Pokémon company wanted to run a singles tournament, it would have to be the weird bring-6-pick-3 format, which I believe is too volatile and, again, stall-prone.
Alec Lapierre stall isn't prominent in 3v3
zaaya my bad - I actually don’t know much about the 3v3 format and just assumed it more closely resembled 1v1, but it makes sense that fewer switch in options would mean fewer viable stall strategies
Alec Lapierre no problemo just wanted to clear that up, rest of your comment was spot on!
the changing viability of different mons, the different strategies that are enabled, and the many more possible moves per turn are all factors for sure
great vid bkc im trying to learn the meta and this is super helpful. really fun tier and fun teams.
Leaf peeping? Overrated. BKC? INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!! *does backflip*
U Made pokemom great again
What kind of tea do you drink ??
Your command of the English language is very enjoyable especially how you speak, “we’re gonna drown this rotom in bulk” haha
When do we get the laddering session with these teams?
Not even a full minute in and BKC calls my boy Staraptor Junk.
Why you gotta do him dirty like that, dude?
I tried the first team but went with offensive Bronzong with rain dance instead of meta and specs Kingdra instead of lati. Suprisingly nasty even though no scarf is used.
How much are these teams supposed to be good now when Arena Trap Dugtrio is banned? Was it an important consideration during your teams' creation?
they're better now that dug's gone
Do you have a file with the teams?
Can u make a general dpp guide?
yes but it's a big project so it'll be a while
@@BKCplaysPokemon Oh god, THANK YOU!!! I am just now getting into dpp and cannot find resources
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In the double dog team with the scarf rose lead, how is rose supposed to be played? Especially against azelf? Sleep powder and switch or leaf storm twice (tspikes doesnt look like an option because azelf alive with potential sash up sucks)? Not playing rose myself especially not the scarf variant so I'm curious on how it works in difficult matchups.
definitely sleep and switch. scarf sleep can get you off to a really good start against stuff that relies on outspeeding rose to stop it (azelf, jirachi, aero).
@@BKCplaysPokemon Thanks for the answer! And thanks for the great videos btw, really nice to hear your insight on stuff.
Noice
How lazy do you have to be to not edit out the bathroom break
lazy enough to never edit in general
@@BKCplaysPokemon honestly a power move