Better Gear - Zoom Multi FX Pedal Hack (MS 50G, MS 60B, MS 70CDR, G1ON,...)
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- It this episode of Better Gear, the show about making gear better, we are going to talk about the Zoom Multi FX Pedal range (you know, the MS 50G, MS 60B, MS 70CDR, G1ON,...) and how to get all the algorithms into your stompbox with a simple hack. Pedal manufacturers hate this trick!!!
Thanks to SHOEGAZER for the inspiration
/ peacelovedistortion
Hi. There is a snag you should be aware of. The flash memory of the processor in the pedal is of a type that is not made to be rewritten very often. Usually the endurance is around 1000 write cycles, but it could be far less. When the memory fails, you can throw away the pedal. Just be aware!
Thanks for pointing that out. Good to know!
Wow thanks for saying that. I'll probably just get 2, I doubt I'll have to re write them nearly that many times
Really? Only 1,000? That's only enough times to flash it once every week for the next 20 years. We better be super careful. Thanks for the heads up. Good looking out.
@@markjones2349 but who is witching it that much
@@illford Yeah that's the exact point. You're a quick one. Hehe
Boris posted an updated version 1.1.1 that loads the latest zoom firmware version 2.1.0. I tested it on MS-70cdr , worked but it lets you choose 1 too many FX before the max memory bar turns red, so if the blue indicator bar Max’’d out but still blue it will fail when writing to the flash. So you have to de-select at least 1 FX from the list so the blue indicator has a little room at the end. yay Better Gear!
Good to know! Thanks for posting!
None of the versions are available. They are gone. Where else I can find the hack file? thx
Thanx to Boris... I bought two of the Ms 60b and reprogrammed them. I now have " more effects than I will ever need in my life..." I have very little use of my digitech 360xp...
Those Zoom stomps are so nice
These Zoom pedals are really great small, portable units for the price. The ones with stereo inputs (like the MS-CDR70) especially rock for synths. I'll say that these FX are at least as good or better than the built-in FX included in most synths.
Agreed! Many great algos on them!
it even makes my shitty Venom sound ok lol
I own an MS-50g AND a MS70-CDR, I think there is no better value for versatility than this combo for guitar and synths! Great video 👍
Thanks! Love Zoom pedals!
well now you can sell one of them lol
The pedal stacking is great.
But they don’t seem happy in the fx loop on my mixer, I have to stack with a Boss delay or something (which has a buffer).
Mike how often do you use the stereo inputs on the MS70-CDR... I am deciding between the two of them.. it is a $40 CND difference between them.
I have the MS-50g and I love it. Do you recommend to get the 70-CDR too and chain those bad boys?
I'm already completely overwhelmed by my MS-70CDR, I spend more time fiddling which effect to use than making the actual track lol
I feel you. Happens to me all the time ;)
There's a Reddit forum with zoom multi stomp fx settings that sound like other pedals. I found using these ready made ones quickly gave me a range of great sounds to start with, rather than having to fumble through dialling something usable myself. Also, a bipass loop pedal was a revelation, use a cheap bypass loop, put the zoom pedal in that loop, and the loop pedal then works like an on/off switch for the zoom in your signal chain. I have 2 zoom ms pedals in my signal chain now, so much fx versatility!
Just discovered this last week from some thread on the gearpage. I’ve since turned both my G1on’s into hybrids of the bass model, as well as stuck backup amp sims and drive options in both of my beloved MS-70’s. Took about a minute per pedal. Amazing!
Such a great hack!
Did you add any CDRs to your G1on?
I was wondering which would be better to have, G1on with pedals or newer screen and navigation on MS models.🤔🤔
also any sound clarity difference??
Use the Zoom manager on a Mac with Virtualization software such as Virtual Box (Free), VMWare Fusion, Parallels etc. I used a windows installation on vmware Fusion and I passed the usb pedal onto the Windows VM. Works like a charm. Tbh I couldn't decide for a small inexpensive effects pedal for a Korg Minilogue synth and somehow google brought me here......Since I saw the zooms on the Better Gear show, the Ms70CDR was an instant purchase!!!!
Great input, good to know!
Just now found this CZcams video because I just purchased a MS-70CDR to use with my MicroFreak. There is a Mac version now 2.1.1 and it works with the current OS Ventura 13.3.
Thanks for a great video and informing me about the Zoom Effect Manager!
Thanks for watching!!!
where did you find the mac version?
Now if sombody can just hack the TC Eletronic toneprint pedals to run all algorithms......
That would be great, not sure if technically possible
This seems like it could be possible if all the pedals are running the same DSP & board. If that's the case all you'd need to do is switch EEPROMs, the hard part would be getting the software without buying all the pedals.
@@BanjoMasterPete you can just get their Plethora X5 it has them all and you can use 5 at a time. there is even an FX loop on it!
I'd pay for that
or for that matter.. the Korg Toneworks pedals...which are amazing...
I've added the effects that are unique to my MS60B on my MS70CDR. The MS60B only allows 4 effects in a chain. I've replaced my 60B with the 70CDR on my pedalboard. This in effect gives me an MS60B that can have 6 effects in a chain, which is very useful. Only problem I've encountered so far is with the pitch shifter. If I really need one, I'll stick it on my Zoom B3 pedal.
AFAIK the pitch shifter takes up quite some processing power
Thanks for the info about the hack ! I bought a 50G and filled it up with everything. Now I think about bying the CDR for the stereo inputs.
Pleasure! Same here, want to get a CDR too
I bought the MS70CDR (The only one with stereo inputs) and have used this manager for about two years with no problems. As a guitarist it really turns the pedal into an entire modelling solution. While its no AxeFX / BigSky / Eventide, it was only £99 delivered and frankly since 1984 I've played a lot of top end gear that this comes close to - its actually very playable plugged direct into a hifi amp! Just get one, have fun! :D
I really want the 70
Able to find?
The Zoom MS save my day, it can be a compressor, a bitcrusher, good reverb and delay.
Good to save space, it can do parallel compression/effect chain which save a mixer too.
For it's price, it is near a must have for everyone. The only downside is the distortion doesn't sound good to me.
Yes, not famous for it's distortion
You are a mind reader I swear, I was playing with my Zoom 70 pedal about 20 minutes ago trying to get it to make my phone running koala sampler sounding funky. And I've been looking for info on youtube the zoom manager before I noticed you made a new video!
Great minds... ;)
I've been thinking about this for ages. Just did it successfully on my ms70cdr. Thanks for posting this one!
Pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Distortion algorithms for days!
This is great. It does sort of make you wonder if Zoom produced a range of pedals that were identical apart from the colors of the units and which files they put on them. Sneaky.
There seem to be differences in DSP power
@@AudioPilz Which pedal would you say would have the most DSP power? I have been meaning to buy a MS70 for a while for my Synth and recently started to play the Bass and was thinking of buying the MS60B, but now I can't decide between the two
Awesome! I use a 70CDR on my practice rig. I had the Bass one but it crapped out so I've been missing the amps & cabs. This is a game changer!
Nice one!!!
I bought the MS 70CDR for guitar, I don't think it was received well in that community but I liked it. Now that It seems the synth community likes it pretty well.
The swiss army knife for synth enthusiasts
It is received well in guitar community as well, check all the presets and effect pedal emulations on reddit. Like the Instant Junky sim. does not sound the same, but its in the ballpark. And there are a lot of others!
Thanks a zilion times for this knowledge, i have been longing for the Zoom MS 70-CDR´s "Particle Reverb" Patch for a time, but own the a MS-60, Ive been concider to buy the MS-70 CDR, just for that reverb, but now since your help i have loaded the "Particle Reverb" Patch into my MS-60 B,.....This is god sent,....Thank you again
Always a pleasure! Thanks for watching!
The guy released version 2 of the software with good interface and says that he's working on mac version as well. I just tested and it works great!
Nice, I gotta check it out!
How?
Thank you thank you thank you!!! My MS-50G is now an MS-70CDR with some extras from MS-50G territory.
Thanks for watching!
Your videos are so informative but the tone with the blind sided moments of humour are brilliant. I nearly fell off my seat laughing when I saw IDDQD flash up on the screen.
My brother in law has one of these pedals... maybe I should borrow it and load it up for him as well as giving it a trial run to see if I want to buy one.
You, Bobeatsts, Simon the Magpie and Look Mum No Computers have been guiding me through my recent journey into audio gear with a focus on synths. Keep up the great work.
Thanks you so much!
I downloaded the thing today for my CDR, I'm happy that it even has descriptions for the effects
Yeah, that one is a game changer!
this is twice now that i bought zoom gear immediately after your video, and still no regrets. and now we wait. (btw the ARQ AR-48 is such a blast to work with!!)
Happy to hear that! Thanks!
Omg man. Love your channel. I didn't realise that you can do this. Ms70 was covered in dust since i got h9. Cant wait to try it tomorrow!!
Great hack, have fun!
I’m about to purchase the G1X Four. And I hope this hack works on it without any issues. If so, I’ll post it on here for anyone wanting to get the same pedal.
Thanks! Keep us posted
@@AudioPilz yes do....and does this hack work on the (very pretty) G1/B1xon series....? I would need it to be a Hackintosh tho.....any word on the street or sidewalk or pavement on the 'does it work on Mac' yet?
replying to my own comment now :D here is the tech info I found pertaining to loading effects on diff- models - github.com/Barsik-Barbosik/Zoom-Firmware-Editor
Just picked up one of these, using it for my Volcas and my bass guitar. Been watching other videos on the 70, heard the love for the 50 too, this video just makes things even better, hell ya!
Did look up the manager for PC, seems there is now a manager 2.
Love all your vids man! Unfortunately I have to keep my hand on the remote to pause or go back to check a meme that went by a bit too fast lol.
Today I learned to always trust a guy called Boris on the internet...
Not only on the internet!
On Red Alert 2 Too!
Unless their surname is Johnson
@@Barnet310 de Pfeffel Johnson to you. ;-)
He's invincible
I’m looking for one of these for my Volca Setup.
Much recommended!!!
a crossover with shoegazer!!!! omg never saw that coming
It'd be a pleasure to shoegaze with the SHOEGAZER! It's not easy to get hold of him, though...
Cool, can’t wait to try this with my ms70cdr!
Have fun! Nice hack!
Oooh, thank you for posting this. I love my MS-50G! It's been a real life changer. Good to know there is more to unlock!
It's a pleasure! Thanks for watching!
I'm a simple man
I read IDDQD
I hit like
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Nowadays zoom ms50g has all the effects standard (170 plus/minus) if I’m right.
But this review made me buy it (and it sounds great).
I love it like sharks love blood
I bought mine a week ago and it didn't, 😢😢
Tips for future Better Gear episodes: Zaquencer (BCR 2000) or turn an Alesis HR16 or tr505 into an LM1 linndrum using eproms.
Zaquencer is great. Already looking for a BCR. EPROM change - been there, done that (TR-505)
Amayziiiing! Was just looking for an MS70CDR effects list to check if there had been any firmware updates and tomorrow was going to go and buy MS50 to get some overdrive and distrortion effects and then I encountered this vid! And uploaded some distortion effects and stuff to my MS70, deleting some unneeded synth simulations and eqs. You just saved me 85€. (Sorry Zoom... :-/ ) Though it would be nice to have both but I have 2 effects loops in my mixer and the other one is reserved for Kaosspad2 weirdness.... You rock, thanks!
Happy to hear that. Thanks for posting!
YES
After years of loving them glad you can homebrew them
Always trust a guy called Boris on the internet 😅
Oh! I've been watching for prices on these to drop - because it's by Zoom - and they haven't dropped. No I know why. Great video. I did not know there are alternate models running the same engine! Now I know. You rock! Have a great day, Bro
Thank you!!!
these Zoom pedals sound incredible and are only crippled by their guitar-level input gain (more noise) and low output volume. it would be great if they made a proper +4 version as a tabletop doohickey with all of the algorithms. oh ... and MIDI tempo sync.
I've heard about a midi sync hack. Maybe I should do a little more research on that
@@AudioPilz I tried searching for this but haven't had much luck. I got a B1 four and a TD-3 and I imagined the rhythms and the looper, along with hackable effects, would hold me over until I got something better and be useful even after. But it's far less usable without syncing...
Thank you for making this. I need to check this out now. I love my CDR-70 with my synths and bass. Need to see how the “60B” will sound with my bass.
The quality of the 60b FX surprised me. Good stuff (not only for bass;)
G1on bank H (tweak freak) patch ARP ONE! uses the SeqFLTR module. Even my Grandma's singing sounds reasonable through that.
I'd like to hear the charming lady
Du bist echt der Hammer. Na echt.. Bin grad Ur begeistert scho wieder mal.. Bin cdr70 user, hab vor paar Monaten mal sowas gehört das des gibt aba mich dann nimmer weiter beschäftigt. Des bringt glaub ich echt vielen leuten was, deine Videos sind super interessant & gut gemacht, du bist einfach das fehlende Glied,in mein Lied!
LG Herr Fuchs ✌️♥️
Besten Dank!
I just got 70cdr and came here to find the tutorial. Searched for the effect manager... It's so suspicious everything is in russian.
Feels like too good to be true.
Because usually there are mysterious letters and symbols, that i barely get... But to my surprise, this time its as clear as a noodle cooking tutorial.
Never expected, russian hackers to make my life easier😂😂
P.S. Thank u for informing about this lofi cult!🎉
Yeah, it's a strange Eastern European cult;)
@@AudioPilz Exactly! I bet if the hack generated adds of Uli every 3 minutes, my mates would rather created a mod to keep the add in tune than loose those crispy digital fuzzes in their ms70s🤤
(Hope it makes sense)
I use the manager software, works fine for me. Also, it opened my eyes to the fact that the 50g, 70cdr and the G1Xon are all the same under the hood with the exception of the enhancements to functionality of the G1Xon. It has a looper and a control pedal. Best of all, the G1Xon seems to sell for pennies on the dollar on the used market.
Yeah, thought about getting a G1Xon
I got my B1xon at AmaXon for €30 silly money. Now unavailable sadly. I should have got the G1 too :D
so can you turn the G1xon into a 70cdr, and still retain the looper functionality?
I'm not sure how many people actually use this with their guitars, I think they'd be more happy with some stomp-extenders, so you could stomp on certain ones without having to press a tiny button to turn on and off certain ones.
They're pretty popular with the shoegazer crowd
@@AudioPilz i just feel they could've included or added the ability to change the stompbox with a pedal instead of a tiny button, y'know
@@JessicaFEREM you can step thru chains, at least...
Well, the only thing holding me back from buying one of these pedals so far has been that I couldn't decide between an MS50G or an MS70CDR. Now I have no excuses not to own one as it seems as though it really doesn't matter which you buy ... beyond the MS70CDR having stereo inputs.
I'd like to have the stereo ins sometimes
@@AudioPilz better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it, as they say
If I remember right you can use more effects at a time on the 70 (than on 50 or 60). More processing power, I believe.
I just had the same quandary and saw intel on what the others stated. I was not really able to find anything clear on G1on vs ms pedals???
Thanks much for bringing this to my attention. I own a similar unit, the boss se-70 and use it for quick and dirty sound manipulation often. If I can get the ms-50g and ms-60b algorithms on the stereo MS70-CDR , I'm sold (not that I expect stereo distortions ;) ). I just ordered. PS I use an MF Drive on my synths too. Great, overlooked unit. I wish I had picked up a used MF Delay before prices went through the roof.
Never tried it with the MS70 but according to SHOEGAZER it works fine
you made me order MS-70CDR !
but this hack is not the only cool thing about this pedal.
it's also possible to control at least some of effect parameters via USB MIDI with certain black SysEx magick. and switch presets via MIDI, of course.
Yeah, there's even some hardware devices for that
@@AudioPilz i already have one) same that i used to control FM synths from generic controllers. just programmed it for another gear-specific SysEx.
I could get the MS60B (BASS) Effects, Amps, etc into my MS50G (GUITAR) , but I couldn't edit them in TONELIB Software Editor.
It's a great software editor for editing the native Effects, Amps, etc I love it.
But it wont recognise the Effects, Amps etc from the MS60B when you connect the MS50G as it registers which unit you have connected to it.
My workaround to this is to use the Editor exclusively for the MS50G Presets & manually setup my Bass Presets later.
I have both units but prefer to use the MS50G as you can chain 6 Effects per patch, whereas the MS60B can only do 4.
I'm so glad I did not sell these powerful little Multi's, dragged them out of the cupboard & shook off the cobwebs .... I was that close !
I really think the quality of most of the Effects & Amps are Ballsy & realistic & compare very well with my other bigger Multi-Effects cousins that I own
..... Well Done ZOOM !
👍👍👍
holy carp! brilliant thanks audiopilz. I have been considering a second ms or zoom pedal as I always thought certain fx were limited to specific pedals. problem solved! :)
Pleasure! Great hack!
Thanks! Currently looking for some effects pedals and this is now on the list ; )
Much recommended!
Nice to make gear better with low to no cost. I respect more than buying another gear 🤠
That hack is a godsend
btw I've been doing this with my G1X Four converting it to a more all round Guitar/Bass/Synth machine... may pick up an old B1 on or the like to mess with that too
Nice!!!
I bought to 100b from the last batch made in Japan ...I didn’t planned I was just a broke tourist but for 220$ two pedals.. I just googled it quickly in the phone and bought it ..1 week later they were discounted and the pay algorithms were free.... n_n
Happens to the best! ;)
Algorithms free. Explain dear Sir. I have just got the MS100BT and from what I read one cant load ZDL effects from the MS50, 70 etc - will try and find that info link i found...
@@squishmusic did you find a link for this?
@@jayvsson the answer my friend is blowing in the....comments somewhere here Just scroll, open and read all the hundreds. u know its fun :D ;)
I hope someone in the future hack these pedals to open a new landscape of effects or options, seems like the software and chips in these pedals are very flexible.
It would be great to open source them
That's some BFG. Better Freakin Gear!
The GEARSLAYER!!!
ngl this makes their hardware sale goes to 11, I already bought the MS-70MDR and about to get another one because of this.
Acronym soup lol
Glad I stuck around for the outro... that sounded lovely. (;
Thanks!
Best video on the subject on all of YT. Awesome job, thanks!
This is great stuff, I've got a G1on I'll consider getting this firmware for.
It's a no-brainer
Just a note, the B/G 1FOUR pedals and a few others aren't supported. This is because the older pedals use a different type of file for the algorithms. There is a second firmware manager out there that does support them though. There are issues with loading bass cabinet sims onto non-bass pedals which require an additional file being written along with the new effects. The 1FOUR pedals are compatible with effects from ZOOM G3X
, ZOOM G3n, ZOOM G3Xn, ZOOM G5n, ZOOM B3n, ZOOM AC-2, ZOOM AC-3. The A1FOUR does not have a firmware file available online yet, but I don't see why it wouldn't work with it when one is posted. All the pedals mentioned in your vid are also supported. I have downloaded the file and run it, but haven't actually flashed either of my 1Four pedals with it yet so I can't comment on stability. The interface seems pretty self-explanatory. I plan to try it this weekend when I have time to sort out any problems I inevitably cause. Oh yh, it's on Github.com/Barsik-Barbosik/Zoom-Firmware-Editor. The effects on the older pedals are .zdl, the newer ones use .zd2. As far as I can tell, these are .dll files. I'm looking into whether I can edit existing effects or create my own. I'm not wasting my time writing a new manager. There's no point if these two programs work.
Love the vids, btw.
If you do brick a pedal, you should be able to flash it with the original firmware to sort it out. You may need to plug it into a different USB port though.
Thanks for the clarification!
I had a play around with it and there are problems. The B1FOUR firmware 2.0 is the same file as the G1FOUR firmware 2.0 file and contains only the effects for the G1FOUR. I can't find any earlier firmwares for the B1FOUR which do contain the effects. I extracted all ZD2 files from the firmware and from the AC2 and AC3 firmwares. The latest G3 firmware wasn't recognised. To create a B1FOUR firmware I would start with the 1.10 file (i I could find it), remove the effects I don't want and 'inject' the ones I do want from the other pedals and then save the firmware file. I will try with the G1FOUR at the weekend and inject AC2/3 effects. I could just wipe out my B1FOUR and see what happens.
Reading some of the issues on Github it appears that the G1FOUR doesn't make it easy, but can be made to work. The B1FOUR is probably the same. May be more trouble than it's worth. My disappointment is almost tangible. Sorry for getting anyone's hopes up. Not least my own.
There is another project "zoom-zt2" which supports the G1Four and other pedals using ZD2 effects. Some effects are specific to G1Four as they are single screen devices. And it is reported that some effects from G5 don't, presumably as they require more memory/processor power. Enjoy 😀
Great stuff. If I still had my Zoom boxes I'd jump on this. Thankfully, they're quite affordable so I could just buy another and pimp it out with this firmware.
Cheers
Great bang for the buck!
Many korean watched this video. This is awesome tip :).
Thanks!
I love my CDR. I want to do this hack so badly just to have some overdrives and stuff.
Highly recommended!
I think I am going to buy this pedal, Ir sounds better than my Digitech rp360 XP
The Zoom FX sound really nice
Where did you come from because I’m LOVING YOUR CHANNEL? Please keep the videos coming.
Happy to hear that! THX
Hmmmm . . . Bad Gear and now Better Gear shows! Awesome!
Thanks! Quite some Better Gear episodes out there
This is exactly what I needed, thank you good sir
Always a pleasure!
please review the Zoom Streetboxx drum machine if you can. It sucks but I love it. For years my whole live set up was just the Zoom Streetboxx with oscillating mixing board feedback that sort of emulated a really harsh 303. Performances were often polarizing.
I really wanna review those but they rarely get any hate
It would be interesting a hack to the TC toneprint series, I think all of them has the same hardware.
Interesting idea!
This is really cool thanks for sharing! What kills me is at least the G1on can’t do midi clock. All of those really fun LFO driven effects are pretty much useless. I don’t understand the point of LFO effects like that without external syncing. Greatly reduces their usability besides one off trick ponies.
Thanks for watching! There's a device by Disaster Area that can do this
@@AudioPilz cool, yea i'm kind of a fan of "cheaper gear" which is why i got the G1on for $40. so much power (really had just got it as a budget looper, the rest was just icing), but still just seems like syncing would be easy enough to have implemented over usb. though these days i'm using pre usb DAW so i kinda retro'd myself out of that possibility anyway.. heh.
I totally missed grabbing one of these. The big box stores in my city marketed these to effects-curious guitar-n00b kids wanting to to go beyond a DS-1, so I looked over it. Now I can't find one for sale locally.
Have you tried to find a 60b or a 70cdr?
@@AudioPilz I haven't seen either of these used locally for a couple of years now. I'll snatch one up when I see one, I live in a smaller city though.
It's been a long time since I looked into it but I remember that not all the Zoom multifx pedals were supported by that software and the Zoom Firmware editor had to be used for the rest.
It seems to work flawlessly with the MS range and some of the "ugly ones" - can't say much about the rest
This new effects editor is multilingual between all the pedals of this era. Makes sense Zoom would use same base hardware architecture and just vary software. Their strategic failure was to assume that by limiting midi access except for only the ms50g they shot themselves in the foot. Their new stuff has new hardware and better algorithms, but not that much better. If they were smart they'd kitify their own midi switching pedal addons to these legacy units and update this editor to revive this line. There are third parties doing this now.
Love the MS series!
Great FX
"Is it safe? I don't know" Yeah, no thanks. I'd like to have some of the amp sims from the MS50 to go with my MS 70, but these pedals are such an incredible bargain for what you get I'll just buy the MS50 rather than risking this. Plus having two pedals gives you the ability to chain more effects without losing DSP. And I read someone comment that you can lose the stereo effect when doing this hack...
Two of them are definitely the more versatile (and safer) option
i saw this a few days ago and thought about it. Then i thought about how i don't even know what all of the 165 effects are, on the last MS70 update. lol
Well, more is more;)
3:10 It's like a Random LFO modulating Filter
Or some envelope follower. It does strange things, nonetheless
Looks like there is another editor by "Barsik-Barbosik" on github that does similar stuff with more options, I'd test it but aparrently my G5 gets no love :(
I think there's a connection but it's rather mysterious
Try 'zoom-zt2' which supports G1Four (and similar pedals), I think the G5 uses same protocols...
Probably because G5n can share its algorithms "only" with G3n, G1 Four, AC and bass series.
super helpful video; too bad it's a little more complicated for me with Mac OS. But I'd like to suggest leaving out the background music for future videos, it's annoying having to try and hear you over it.
Thank you for the feedback!
What synth preset that introsound is? Drives me crazy to not remember. Roland D10?
Korg M1!!!
Thanks Boris!
Boris, my man!
Excellent as always, hmmm if only you could attach the zoom pedal to yourself 🤔 😂🤣😂I think they had a plastic thing on some models for belt wearing. Great video dude 👍
Thanks! Damn, now I have to get rid of images in my head😂
Haha yes! Showing up to band practice with trusty go to pedals on the belt like..... I’m Batman!
Searching for a MS70CDR now as it's stereo.
Great unit!
There seems to be a v1.1.1 update of the Effects Manager out now (to be found in the same Google Drive)
Good to know. Thanks for posting!
@@AudioPilz I have no clue where the changelog is, or what has been added, but I could bet that among the additions are the implementations/support of 50G's firmware 3.0 and 70CDR's firmware 2.1.
Wow! Gonna do this now!
Great hack!
@@AudioPilz Do you happen to know what will happen with fx imported to a MS-70CDR when I run stereo in and out? Will it work correctly or is there an issue there?
The BG-music is hilarious!
That's what I thought;)
I miss episodes like this and the metal zone pedal.
Let's see if I can squeeze a few more like these in
It’s great content and perpetuates my Bad Gear GAS!
The metal zone video opened up a whole new thought process for me. Though I’ve subbed out the MT-2 for EHX Bass Big Muff Deluxe as the filters can lend themselves to complete audio destruction and MASSIVE bass 💪
Hey you gotta do the classic discount 90's (oberheim) fx unit: Viscount EFX-10 😉
Didn't know that one! Thanks
Another MS-50G hack: connect it through a bypass loop box, then change it to the mode where the switch scrolls through a short list of presets. That way you can switch presets AND turn it on/off with your foot.
Yeah, did this with the Boss LS-2
does this require doing a hardware mod to the zoom? Isn't a midi host capable foot pedal a "better" solution? czcams.com/video/3sj2SaFfOTY/video.html or does your solution not need a hardware mod?
@@alexwestconsulting no hardware mods... MS-50G lets you select a short list of patches (assigns them a letter), and you can set it so the switch cycles through them (so start on patch A, press to go to B, press to go to C), and you use external loop to bypass (it's just a "hack" using stuff you may already have to squeeze a bit more flexibility out of it.) if you already have an appropriate toolset to rig it up for MIDI switching via USB that would be a way better solution, but one that would cost more money to implement than simply buying a more controllable multi effects unit at that point.
@@dlabrador Do you know if there is a video on how to do this? This interests me greatly
Awesome video as always, could you one day make an episode on the casio cz synth I'm a huge fan of it and not much content is done about it(even if it probably deserves a bad gear episode lol)
Thanks! Yes, the lack of Casio on this channel is disturbing
Since we're talking Casio's, I'd suggest an episode of Bad Gear devoted to the most circuit bent keyboard of all time: the SK-1
This hack is great! Now if someone could hack the Eventide H9 core pedal to unlock all algorithms
Yeah, that would save A LOT of money
@@AudioPilz yeah, As great as they sound I feel like they are a bit overpriced
Squelchy squelchy squelchy episode!
SquelchySquelchSquelch. Lotsa squelch, indeed...
Theres a v1.1 for this i see. No idea whats new but im away to use it now
Good to know, thanks for posting!
Hey not sure if anyone ever suggested this but "better gear" idea.. dual SID chip C64.. or even just a stock C64. Really cool and very possible to make some very powerful mods that are technically very simple (LFO and Filter can have dedicated knobs via joystick or mounted directly in the case.. i'm debating which way i want to go. there is the MSSIAH cart and Cartsynth.. I'm kinda exploring the NES Cart MIDI option and talking with a guy working on an Intellivision MIDI cart as well. Looking at other vintage computer options. I've had an Amiga 1200 since 1994 and have always loved the Paula chip but it's a sampler so while it has 4 voices.. it's not a "synth" like those earlier computers. the SID chip even has an analog filter in it and it really does sound good for a 3 voice synth.
It has become quite hard to get those SID chips, AFAIK
AudioPilz you just find a broken “for parts” c64. Otherwise they appear to run about $90 on ebay. Not a steal but i got lucked into my 2nd sid chip buying a bad c64 locally for $10. Just ordered the sidfx socket.
AudioPilz. NES midi cart is like $60 + an NES. Pretty cool
Bit like the Jet Pack mod for the Digitech XP pedals of the late 90s.
Didn't know that one. Damn, it's pricey!
MAn, we need something for the Mooer GE300 Lite, firmware was abandonned long time ago and nobody dares to mod it yet, the GE300 which is almost identical got so many better things on the software...
CAn you assist us with that one?
It also works on my zoom gx1on
Kewl!
the MS50G is still cheaper and a better value than one Boss pedal. i have to get one soon!
Highly recommended!
....hab ich erwartet, war klar, dass du das Video machst. Und VORBILDLICH, dass du SHOEGAZER announced .... *applaus* bist n cooler typ ...ich mag das
Ehrensache! Besten Dank!