We are headed down to DIsneyland from Rocklin. I have been doing my research on the stops. I have seen nothing but great reviews for the Kettleman City EA's. Will be hitting those on the way home. Going down 99 to get there and staying in Tulare and going to charge at the Walmart EA's. I love the Mantecca RAN stations as well as the Sacramento one. I was so hoping that Buttonwillow RAN would open by now, but it is good to know that next year whenb we go down, it will probably be open as well as Santa Nella and Firebaugh. Would be nice if they put one in on the Grapevine.
That was great!!! How are you liking it 6 months later? I'm very excited for the R2!!!! I have a model 3 right now and looking forward to hopefully trade it in for that one!!!
From what you mentionned it seems in conserve and with the skybox you get a bit less than 250 mi on highway, which is not bad at all. My skybox eats 10 mpg on a prius prime. About to get a r1s too so it s interesting...
What I am truly curious about is the cost you paid at each charging station and how it relates to a tankful of fuel or price per gallon vs. price per kilowatt
Did you run into any stations (besides Tesla) where it wasn't compatible? I went to a EVGo and the charger wouldn't fit even though the map told me to go to that location.
I'm curious.. when you stop to charge.. what does it typically cost you to recharge on average? I'm actually considering a Rivian pickup truck and getting rid of my Silverado that currently is costing me a small fortune. I'm probably spending $200+ per month on gas. We just went solar recently and now I'm re-thinking our vehicles.
We didn't look too closely because 90% of our charging is "free" at home w/ solar. But on average, it was about $30 to $40 to "fill up" 80% or so with the public chargers.
@@hungarianhc Thx. I'd mostly charge at home with solar. I'm just curious what the average cost is if a public charger was used. Appreciate the feedback.
If you get a monthly membership plan with Electrify America ($7.00/month) the cost per kW drops by $0.12 (usually it will be $0.36/kW). My wife opened the fuel bill last month.....$10....and that was for a carwash. Our RAV4 Prime which my wife drives about 10 miles a day still have 3/4 of a tank after 1-1/2 months. Yes, our electric bill has gone up, but not that bad.
As someone elese mentioned, if you give EA $7 a month, you save 12 cents per kWh. Normally the kWh is .48. There is one thing that is different from an EV and an ICE truck. With an ICE truck, your MPG is higher on the highway and lower MPG is in the city driving. With an EV, it is inverse. You get better 'mileage' at slower speeds than at faster speeds. I do not own a Rivian, just a Tesla. We have done 2400 miles in a similar trip to this one, we have done 1600 mile trips going north of this one. We have done 1200 mile trips in Florida. All of our trips average out from .10 to .12 per mile using the Tesla SuperChargers. It would be higher with EA because the cost per kWh is much higher and the efficiency of the truck is lower than a Tesla. I would suspect that it is probably closer to 18 to 22 cents per mile. Comparing that to a Silverado 5.3 and that will get about 17 mpg. If gas is $5 a gallon that is almost 30 cents per mile. I have found holes in the charging network and it is relatively easy to find. One, get off the major roads. Finding a charger in a remote area regardless of Tesla or Rivian or EA is hard. Two, the four corners. Once you get to Indian reserverations, finding a charger is extremely hard. Hope that helps.
You can count the charging stops yourself. 100% of them are documented in the video! It's tough to calculate hours of charging, because many of them happened while I was sleeping with free chargers at the hotel or the car was just sitting there while we were eating lunch with the kids.
@@dosthdosth I can't speak for Kevin...but we can go from 20% to 80% on the home charger (32a) in about 12 hours. On a DCFC charger, about 30 mins.....depending on the output of the charger. Just because it says "350kw" doesn't mean it will. I usually get about 200kW....which isn't bad.
Curious but why not add another kid in the second row, fold one of the rear seats down and then ditch the thule roof box? Roof box is probably stripping at least 10% range. Edit: the 20in all terrain probably steal another 5-10%.
2 reasons... 1. CARGO! Our roofbox was FULL. Our frunk was FULL. We had snow skis, a pack n play for the baby, boots, helmets, etc. We were full to the brim. 2. Comfort - We have the luxury of not typically having 3 kids across in the middle seat, and it's better. They have more space, less fighting, etc. If they're happier in the car, that means we can drive farther without an "incident." We only use that roofbox for probably 4 to 5 trips a year... We use it for ski trips for the ski equipment, and then maybe once a year we'll do some kind of road trip w/ camping equipment or something else where we need the space. It probably does kill the range by 10% or so, but I don't really care that much... I can only drive so far before I need to stop and pee or have lunch or something so it's all good. We love the Thule!
@@hungarianhc I didn't realize you guys had skis with you! I was skipping around the video haha. Makes a ton of sense why you used the Thule box. And yes children sitting side by side isn't always ideal. But seeing the video they seemed to well behaved? which is why I was wondering 😅
love the green, sorry I cancelled my reservation. instead I got the lightning. but at 1/2 the cost I'm not complaining.(yea I was able to get the PRO for $40,000). sorry not sorry.
Why isn't there a single charging standard? Why can't all chargers charge quickly? These are the factors that discourage people from purchasing electric cars.
The year is 2024, you have been in a coma for 15 years…. Electric cars are pretty common vehicles now. The charge using electricity rather than gasoline
Tesla is opening their stations sometime next year and Rivian is going to give free NACS adapters so we can use them. So, right now, it takes plannine, in the future, there will still need planning, but it will be easier and more reliable. The only downside to Tesla stations is they are (from what I have seen) about $0.50/kW, but when you need it, you need it.
Typically yes. It's fine but not always ideal since it goes very slow to get to that point. Often it's faster to only go to 80 or so, but if you know you have a very long leg and want as much range as possible, it's not a problem to top up fully (if it's an overnight charge the extra time doesn't matter).
It only makes sense to charge to 100% if you really have to. Really should not charge more than enough to make it to your next charging location. I prefer more stops and shorter charge times.
Bro you did a Doo Doo 💩 change at a charging station? Were you promoting that accessory? Did your charging neighbors get a poopy experience at charge as well? I’m confused. 😂
I should have! To be honest, I didn't care... Two reasons: the Rivian chargers are currently free, and I do 90% of my charging at home, which is also free (solar). So for such a limited use case, it wasn't something I was thinking I needed to track. Should have done it for the video!
Way to much time spent planning around the charging. With an ice car you don't need to plan at all. Electric cars are not the future they are just an add on for mainly local commutes. Hydrogen may be the future.
From the video it seems all you did was charge. That should have been the title. Charging my status symbol. Didn’t make it through whole video. Bullshit. Ps. I’m a fan of electric cars
It seems like a major pain-in-the-arse to charge. With traditional autos, you pull into any gas station and you’re good-to-go for 300-400 miles in 5-minutes.
With a Rivian, you wake up with 300-400 miles of range without going to a station. A regular plug (like a pioneer hotel, or at home) does the trick. If you do need to stop, 30 min at a high speed charger is all you need.
Yeah that’s my take too. I’m beginning to wonder if traveling with an ev is actually cheaper. Ever time they stop to charge, the occupants are either eating, or being entertained or shopping. I like my time while vacationing to be the at the destinations not the journey.
@@dontrustwhiteyevery1 5-10 hrs away?? And in colder climate. Then have to rent a car/Uber when there? Or just drive my own fuel efficient car that i can keep items in even a spare gas can. Trust me I want to jump on the EV bandwagon but folks gotta be practical and non bias. It’s gonna be interesting if the population makes it to 20-40% adoption and then realize we don’t have enough power supply and when/if we do, electricity $ is gonna go thru the roof.
@@garny3766well then you stick to your fossil fuel car. Don’t come back crying about gas prices. The younger generations will be using EVs for sure once the whiners are gone.
Is actually way cheaper than gas, and yes the range might not be the best but for a car that you’ll use everyday is perfect. BTW if you have an EV you’ll be saving 66% of money buy charging in your house than going to a gas station
This doesn’t look very appealing. I own a EV and would never cart my entire family around the country in it. That’s what my gas powered, body on frame Lexus suv is for. I don’t take vacations to sit around in parking lots. EVs are fine for commutes and charging at home but not much else
Why in the world would you want to stop for an hour every 300 miles. I can literally fill up in 5 minutes n instantly have another 390 mile range on my atlas.
The sky is blue. Oh, I thought we were staying obvious things, you know, like that a new entrant into the automotive space isn’t turning a profit in the 2nd year of manufacture.
Yeah Pendaranrobert, you are so right. I have bought myself a nice Boeing 737 Max8 now, once fuelled it goes on for several thousand miles. This is so awesome 😂
Left a like for diaper changing tailgate. My Tesla Model Y was great for changing, but my Rivian has been a step up for "changing the poop."
That was my green R1T at the inyokern charger! Nice vid
Wow, I have seen several videos lately of people having a tough time charging non-Tesla EVs. I'm glad your experience was better.
I travel all over this area regularly. Nice to know the Rivian is a possibility.
Nice video from a Rivian CZcamsr to another. Great video!
Thanks for the video. I don't have enough patience.
We are headed down to DIsneyland from Rocklin. I have been doing my research on the stops. I have seen nothing but great reviews for the Kettleman City EA's. Will be hitting those on the way home. Going down 99 to get there and staying in Tulare and going to charge at the Walmart EA's. I love the Mantecca RAN stations as well as the Sacramento one. I was so hoping that Buttonwillow RAN would open by now, but it is good to know that next year whenb we go down, it will probably be open as well as Santa Nella and Firebaugh. Would be nice if they put one in on the Grapevine.
I would love your thoughts on the efficiency using the roof top storage box. Thanks
Greetngs,Super, nice editing,
The whole charging process is very detailed. I would like to try one of these trips and would like to discuss it in depth with you!
Can you please show your car seat/booster seat arrangement? Particularly interested in how kids get into 3rd row with two car seats in the 2nd row
It's fun to travel the country visiting hundreds of charging stations
.good times
Just like gas stations
Awesome R1S! I’d be delighted to talk about our company collaborating with your channel!
The pioneer hotel.... looks like a motel to me. love it! I would rather park in front of my room then walk thru a lobby.
That was great!!! How are you liking it 6 months later? I'm very excited for the R2!!!! I have a model 3 right now and looking forward to hopefully trade it in for that one!!!
From what you mentionned it seems in conserve and with the skybox you get a bit less than 250 mi on highway, which is not bad at all. My skybox eats 10 mpg on a prius prime. About to get a r1s too so it s interesting...
I'm guessing at 70mph? I imagine any higher and it wouldn't be that great.
I assume you leave the roof crossbars attached all the time (even when the roof box not on). Any wind noise?
Still love the car? What size battery pack did you get and how is your actual range vs advertised range?
What's the range reduction like with this kind of load up?
How long will Rivian charging be free? Is it part of when you buy it? Will Rivian eventually have you pay to charge like Tesla or is it always Free?
Tell us each time to charge and how much it cost and was the rivian charger free?
Kevin, what Thule cargo box did you get for the R1S?
wow this is soo cool and different
Thanks for the video. How many miles of range could you get on a full charge on highway with your set up? Sorry if I missed it somewhere thank you.
It depends on what range you bought the max is 400a and the lowest is 280 miles (something like that)
Nice rack and box !
If you compare this to gas vehicle may be bmwx5 , how is the ride and road noise in rivian and charging time. Bmw x5 has very smooth ride
Every time I am at the Westin Mammoth the L2 chargers they are ICED by F-150s or F-250s.
What I am truly curious about is the cost you paid at each charging station and how it relates to a tankful of fuel or price per gallon vs. price per kilowatt
Buying a Rivian just for the poop changing station is worth it. No lie! I remember those days!
Great video. How much were the charges on the trip? I would love to know how much each charger cost you.. minus the RAN which is free.
How much did you spend on non Rivian charging for those miles?
What if your route does not have easy access to charging stations?
Great Video, Can you post or show the cost per kWH or total overview cost of the trip to charge the vehicle?
Yes please
how LONG did the Rivian charger take to get you from 16mi to 300?
Did you run into any stations (besides Tesla) where it wasn't compatible? I went to a EVGo and the charger wouldn't fit even though the map told me to go to that location.
How long it takes to charge 96%?
Bro . How much miles it goes with single car . Let's say charge it 100% then in remaining 5% how much it actually goes ? Real world mileage?
Thank you
I'm curious.. when you stop to charge.. what does it typically cost you to recharge on average? I'm actually considering a Rivian pickup truck and getting rid of my Silverado that currently is costing me a small fortune. I'm probably spending $200+ per month on gas. We just went solar recently and now I'm re-thinking our vehicles.
We didn't look too closely because 90% of our charging is "free" at home w/ solar. But on average, it was about $30 to $40 to "fill up" 80% or so with the public chargers.
@@hungarianhc Thx. I'd mostly charge at home with solar. I'm just curious what the average cost is if a public charger was used. Appreciate the feedback.
If you get a monthly membership plan with Electrify America ($7.00/month) the cost per kW drops by $0.12 (usually it will be $0.36/kW). My wife opened the fuel bill last month.....$10....and that was for a carwash. Our RAV4 Prime which my wife drives about 10 miles a day still have 3/4 of a tank after 1-1/2 months. Yes, our electric bill has gone up, but not that bad.
As someone elese mentioned, if you give EA $7 a month, you save 12 cents per kWh. Normally the kWh is .48. There is one thing that is different from an EV and an ICE truck. With an ICE truck, your MPG is higher on the highway and lower MPG is in the city driving. With an EV, it is inverse. You get better 'mileage' at slower speeds than at faster speeds.
I do not own a Rivian, just a Tesla. We have done 2400 miles in a similar trip to this one, we have done 1600 mile trips going north of this one. We have done 1200 mile trips in Florida. All of our trips average out from .10 to .12 per mile using the Tesla SuperChargers. It would be higher with EA because the cost per kWh is much higher and the efficiency of the truck is lower than a Tesla. I would suspect that it is probably closer to 18 to 22 cents per mile. Comparing that to a Silverado 5.3 and that will get about 17 mpg. If gas is $5 a gallon that is almost 30 cents per mile.
I have found holes in the charging network and it is relatively easy to find. One, get off the major roads. Finding a charger in a remote area regardless of Tesla or Rivian or EA is hard. Two, the four corners. Once you get to Indian reserverations, finding a charger is extremely hard.
Hope that helps.
“Electronic” vehicle trip? 😅 Is that different from a regular electric vehicle trip?
How many total stops did you make for charging? And what was the number of hours combined for charging?
You can count the charging stops yourself. 100% of them are documented in the video!
It's tough to calculate hours of charging, because many of them happened while I was sleeping with free chargers at the hotel or the car was just sitting there while we were eating lunch with the kids.
@@hungarianhc thanks for reply. Whats an average time to get it charged from 10% to 80%?
@@dosthdosth I can't speak for Kevin...but we can go from 20% to 80% on the home charger (32a) in about 12 hours. On a DCFC charger, about 30 mins.....depending on the output of the charger. Just because it says "350kw" doesn't mean it will. I usually get about 200kW....which isn't bad.
@@schlotdoglaser Thank You
Way too much going on here just to go some where. You got to have a lot of time to waste if you going ev.
Great video. How large is the battery?
Kind regards
Mads, Denmark, Europe 😄
They come standard with 135kW
Watching all this rivian and other evs charge, im glad i got a tesla, tesla supercharger is so easy nothing to tap or type just plug
Curious but why not add another kid in the second row, fold one of the rear seats down and then ditch the thule roof box? Roof box is probably stripping at least 10% range.
Edit: the 20in all terrain probably steal another 5-10%.
2 reasons...
1. CARGO! Our roofbox was FULL. Our frunk was FULL. We had snow skis, a pack n play for the baby, boots, helmets, etc. We were full to the brim.
2. Comfort - We have the luxury of not typically having 3 kids across in the middle seat, and it's better. They have more space, less fighting, etc. If they're happier in the car, that means we can drive farther without an "incident."
We only use that roofbox for probably 4 to 5 trips a year... We use it for ski trips for the ski equipment, and then maybe once a year we'll do some kind of road trip w/ camping equipment or something else where we need the space. It probably does kill the range by 10% or so, but I don't really care that much... I can only drive so far before I need to stop and pee or have lunch or something so it's all good. We love the Thule!
@@hungarianhc I didn't realize you guys had skis with you! I was skipping around the video haha. Makes a ton of sense why you used the Thule box. And yes children sitting side by side isn't always ideal. But seeing the video they seemed to well behaved? which is why I was wondering 😅
So guys how was your vacation , what did you do?
We charged most of the time!!
R1S in Green color look so dope!
love the green, sorry I cancelled my reservation. instead I got the lightning. but at 1/2 the cost I'm not complaining.(yea I was able to get the PRO for $40,000). sorry not sorry.
Why isn't there a single charging standard? Why can't all chargers charge quickly? These are the factors that discourage people from purchasing electric cars.
45 Minutes holy cow thats a very long time to wait. Not for me
Absurd wait times for recharging. Constantly adapting your plans around charging. No thanks
I heard somewhere Rivian users can use Tesla charging network. Is it true?
Rivian joint Tesla charging network as many others (Ford, GM, etc...), starts 2024 I think
What is an electronic vehicle?
The year is 2024, you have been in a coma for 15 years…. Electric cars are pretty common vehicles now. The charge using electricity rather than gasoline
Seems like this would get tedious real quick.
Why I like Tesla. Superchargers everywhere!!!
Tesla is opening their stations sometime next year and Rivian is going to give free NACS adapters so we can use them. So, right now, it takes plannine, in the future, there will still need planning, but it will be easier and more reliable. The only downside to Tesla stations is they are (from what I have seen) about $0.50/kW, but when you need it, you need it.
so okay to chaege to 100 percent in road trips?
Typically yes. It's fine but not always ideal since it goes very slow to get to that point. Often it's faster to only go to 80 or so, but if you know you have a very long leg and want as much range as possible, it's not a problem to top up fully (if it's an overnight charge the extra time doesn't matter).
It only makes sense to charge to 100% if you really have to. Really should not charge more than enough to make it to your next charging location. I prefer more stops and shorter charge times.
Bro you did a Doo Doo 💩 change at a charging station? Were you promoting that accessory? Did your charging neighbors get a poopy experience at charge as well? I’m confused. 😂
seems like lots of charging
Way too much.
RWC!
With all these chargers it seems like having an EV takes a toll on your diet! lol
Why don't you show how much you pay for every charge?
I should have! To be honest, I didn't care... Two reasons: the Rivian chargers are currently free, and I do 90% of my charging at home, which is also free (solar). So for such a limited use case, it wasn't something I was thinking I needed to track. Should have done it for the video!
Way to much time spent planning around the charging. With an ice car you don't need to plan at all. Electric cars are not the future they are just an add on for mainly local commutes. Hydrogen may be the future.
From the video it seems all you did was charge. That should have been the title. Charging my status symbol. Didn’t make it through whole video. Bullshit. Ps. I’m a fan of electric cars
the video titled "charging experience...", so it's focused on charging.
All the Tesla fanbois FUD on impossible to CCS public charge is just OVERATED!
😢 WHAT KIND OF PAYMENT ?
It seems like a major pain-in-the-arse to charge. With traditional autos, you pull into any gas station and you’re good-to-go for 300-400 miles in 5-minutes.
With a Rivian, you wake up with 300-400 miles of range without going to a station. A regular plug (like a pioneer hotel, or at home) does the trick. If you do need to stop, 30 min at a high speed charger is all you need.
Yeah that’s my take too. I’m beginning to wonder if traveling with an ev is actually cheaper. Ever time they stop to charge, the occupants are either eating, or being entertained or shopping. I like my time while vacationing to be the at the destinations not the journey.
@@garny3766well in that case it's quicker to fly.
@@dontrustwhiteyevery1 5-10 hrs away?? And in colder climate. Then have to rent a car/Uber when there? Or just drive my own fuel efficient car that i can keep items in even a spare gas can. Trust me I want to jump on the EV bandwagon but folks gotta be practical and non bias. It’s gonna be interesting if the population makes it to 20-40% adoption and then realize we don’t have enough power supply and when/if we do, electricity $ is gonna go thru the roof.
@@garny3766well then you stick to your fossil fuel car. Don’t come back crying about gas prices.
The younger generations will be using EVs for sure once the whiners are gone.
recharging of EV toys now costs more then ordinary fuel and of course much longer and range are pathetic low ....
Is actually way cheaper than gas, and yes the range might not be the best but for a car that you’ll use everyday is perfect. BTW if you have an EV you’ll be saving 66% of money buy charging in your house than going to a gas station
@@Javiperea88 actually its not cheaper in most of countries and time of recharge much longer especially if you are in line
This doesn’t look very appealing. I own a EV and would never cart my entire family around the country in it. That’s what my gas powered, body on frame Lexus suv is for. I don’t take vacations to sit around in parking lots. EVs are fine for commutes and charging at home but not much else
Why in the world would you want to stop for an hour every 300 miles. I can literally fill up in 5 minutes n instantly have another 390 mile range on my atlas.
So awesome! Does your Atlas also fill itself up nightly while you're at home for free? My Rivian + solar does!
Great. They are losing 10k plus per vehicle. 🤡👍
The sky is blue. Oh, I thought we were staying obvious things, you know, like that a new entrant into the automotive space isn’t turning a profit in the 2nd year of manufacture.
What a useless car! My 18 year old Subaru "charges" up in 2 minutes. LOL You guys got scammed!
I smell jealousy.
@@muny_man lol
Yeah Pendaranrobert, you are so right. I have bought myself a nice Boeing 737 Max8 now, once fuelled it goes on for several thousand miles. This is so awesome 😂
Clock is ticking on that 18 YO Subaru
@@kelviskelvis7140 It's in excellent condition. Plan to keep it forever. I don't have a massive battery that's going to fail.
so you have to pay 4 charging too. damn what a joke these ppl are playing on the sheeple
100 miles per half battery is trash....
New max pack is much better.