Lincoln Viking 3350 ADV: new welding hood unbox & review
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- In this episode we open up a viking 3350 to see what you get for 375$ american pesos.
0:00:00 Intro and overview
0:05:09 unboxing
0:09:29 comparison
0:12:26 test fit
0:18:38 the app
0:21:46 conclusion
Man that steampunk gear look of the old one was something I loved.
Man! A cap! My cap is from my Dad. Older than me! I don’t weld enough to need to buy a new one, so it is a nice to have for me. If there is a student that needs it, go for it! To be clear, I think it would be fun to be in the mix just for the excitement, but if I’m picked, please pick again for someone that really needs it…and I’ll toss you some $$ for horse radish instead! 😊
I am gonna put this on my list. I like it!
High tech. Very nice. “Nothing but the best Clark.”
Awesome hood!
I have an earlier version of the Miller Digital Infinity. As mentioned in an earlier post, it has the X-mode which I always use because even indoors, LED lights can prematurely trigger it similar to when the sun hits it just right, either way, it’s very annoying. The other feature Miller boasts is their viewing area is supposedly the largest (that Viking looks to be about the same size), and Miller’s newest version has what they call “Clear Light Technology 2.0”, which is suppose to give you more definition, but mine only has the original 1st gen clear light, so I can’t really say whether or not it’s better. Miller only has a 3 year warranty, and I just recently had to have the screen replaced due to the Autodarking feature not responding as fast as it originally did, so I was getting Flashed for a second, which was both painful and distracting. I would have to say Miller is very good when it comes to their warranty service. I briefly considered upgrading/buying a new hood, but unfortunately, the current version costs between $400 and $475 depending on the graphic. The miller has many of the same controls and timers etc. as the Viking, but not as many or as nice as the Viking’s features like the external grind button would be nice.
Miller says that solar panel is a battery assist to increase the life of the two CR2450 coin cells, which seem to be very popular. Oddly, Miller insists you need to use Panasonic batteries because they make better electrical contact, and prevents glitches. I had new Panasonics (sold by Miller) installed, and the lens still glitched. Before they would replace the lens under warranty, they insisted on installing new Panasonic batteries, so I jumped thru all their diagnostic hoops, including new batteries, so they replaced it, only after the dealer repeated all the diagnostics while on the phone with their tech support. What a pain in the butt, but it’s working now, and that’s what matters.
If I were to be in the market for a new hood, I think I would buy the Lincoln Viking 3350ADV.
The headgear in both the Viking and the Infinity are very similar, and I’m not a fan of it. I had to use little Zip-ties to reinforce the pivoting rear head pad because it kept popping apart.
Now I just need to figure out how to convince the Chief Financial Officer aka the wife to let me get one! 😂
Too bad you can’t get the Steam Punk graphics like your old hood, I really envied it. I hope it works well for you, and I’m looking forward to seeing it in action, and your long term review.
Hey Greg, new hobby apprentice here, I got this helmet with my new welder, and it's still waiting to be unboxed....just waiting for some argon, and my electric upgrade in my garage. I felt it important for me to get a decent brand name helmet with fairly large viewing area to make it easier on me...I ended up paying about the same as you from Bakers gas....no problems there, as it was the only thing I ordered.
I have been a huge fan of the 3350 and I wouldn’t be as good of a welder as I am without it. The fact the 3350 I had (first gen) lasted through 6+ years of use, -10 degree temps, pouring rain, and untold drops, solidified it as excellent hood. I am glad to hear you went with a good hood right from the start. They cost a lot out the better you can see the better you can weld. I was stuck on a fixed shade for a week a few weeks ago, and I don’t ever want to go back to one lol.
I looked at this Lincoln helmet and the Esab A60 ( I have the A50) and the Miller Digital Infinity. I chose the Miller as it has a very wide view and it also has what they call Xmode, this I really like and it was the deal maker. Most all my welding is done outside.
The sun affects helmets depending of were it is. With Xmode, no flashes to dark and no open flash when welding. It some how senses the sun or other bright lights or the gut welding next to you , so you don't flashed by him or have the helmet go dark because of the sun. As for the head gear, I prefer the Esab head gear, adjusts easy and feels good on the head. I guess it depends on how many knobs and points your head has.
Surprisingly enough I have never used a esab hood, despite owning a ton of their welders. They are next on the list to try. I also will be trying the current version of the top end miller soon, a friend just bought one. The one I have doesn’t have the x mode, which seems to be a good feature. False darkening sucks out doors, for the most part I can dial the Viking down enough to prevent it, but it’s not perfect.
Very good job at telling me stuff
Thanks. I will be doing a video on a esab hood and a miller one soon, keep a lookout for those and the comparison video 😀
Oh dear......I'm having this Pavlovian response whenever you show new stuff on your channel now......I'd like the welding helmet and the gloves, please (and some of that de-clutter spray) 😂
Hey Greg, two, three weeks ain’t nothin”. I ordered a vibratory polisher/deburrer from Trick Tools, a company I’ve ordered from a number of times. Usually, product arrives quickly, within 5 days. But this was said to ship directly from the manufacturer, Burr King and may take extra time. Every time a company ships directly from a manufacturer it takes more time. Ok, no problem. Well, now it’s a problem, as it’s slightly over two months! Enjoy your new helmet. I just replaced my still working ESAB A50 with the newer A60, main improvement I wanted is a much brighter view. Yeah, a new helmet is nice. By the way Greg - you worry too much.
2 months is crazy lol. I have had pretty good luck with the ship from manufacture stuff from other companies but man that must have been a shock.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg it’s frustrating. I’ve got a bunch of parts I wanted to throw in, but they’re just sitting.
@@melgrossDid you get it yet or have you built your own by now?
@@maxscott3349 heh. I called the company I bought it from, Trick Tools. They called Burr-King. It seems they’ve been waiting for a part for over a year! I ended up getting the next larger one, which was in stock. That came last Saturday.
Enjoyed the review and comparison to the previous version. Can you take some arc shots from old and new to see the change to the new version?
I will, but I can tell you they are identical. Nothing was upgraded with the cartridge as far as color or clarity. It’s actually really hard to tell the clarity (on video or photos)apart with many of the new hoods. There are differences though, they are just so subtle it’s tough to see them.
I have a rivited jackson that i liked alot (ultra light) but laying on my back doing pipe melted the slats that let me slap the shade up to grind . Now i just use a pipe liner and replace the head gear every 6 months.
Hard to argue with a pipeliner, i always have something like that as a backup 😀.
I would love the cap!!! I wonder what’s it’s like to Weld without sparks bouncing off my scalp😂
Sparked a thought, Velcro a Stream Light or similar small flash light on your welding hood. Make sense and adds versatility. Add Velcro in multiple spots on your hood. Problem solved. I work in a fab shop and as we all know, the lighting is not always the best in certain locations while welding. 👍🏻
I am with you on that thought. A simple headlamp setup like you said would provide a ton a capability on any hood, and honestly is the way I would go. Usefulness of that vs the built in one has to favor the custom headlamp. Other than it might hit something.
Sure would like the welding hat. Looks like a good one and my poor ol bald head needs all the protection it can get lol
Gremlins is what it is!!
Good and informative as always. Have you ever used ESAB hoods like the ESAB Halo Sentinel A60?
The next hood I will get my hands on will be a esab. You would think I would have one since I have owned so many esab machines, but I have never used any of the new sentinels. I have heard a lot of good things about them. It has the same optical clarity as the Viking 3350. Based on the overall design the only thing I don’t like is the wrap around shield. I think that would promote dust from getting in between the shield and the cartridge, which would require removal of the shield and cleaning of the cartridge. The Viking has the shield attached on top of the cartridge with a 360 degree gasket, so dust doesn’t get between the cartridge and the outward screen. It makes cleaning it up easier (a wipe with windex is all it takes with no disassembly.
It sucks when you get a good piece of equipment and when you need to replace it they cheap out on the newer one.
It definitely does.
Greg first all black pieces are for cheater lenses the light is removable and replaceable so is the battery pack the light also is smart and shuts off when welding turns on when stopped welding the smart phone is handy so u never have to take it off and your with Menus just touch my smart phone set it up quick or switch stuff.
No disrespect but I’ve had nothing but great service from Bakers Gas. Great video 🇺🇸
Good to hear. I just wished they had a up to date inventory 😀. They are way better than airgas though, that’s for sure lol.
Hi Greg, thanks for the review. Can you do a follow up on whether the light actually works or not. My welding setup doesn't have great lighting, so I find that feature interesting. I have the harbor freight titanium hood, which I like, but I have the miller mini respirator and it doesn't fit under that hood. I'm curious if you have done any testing with something similar.
Great idea and you’re in luck. I actually picked up a Lincoln respirator, and have the miller one as well. I also bought 2 other new hoods, the miller digital infinity and the esab a60. I will be reviewing both the miller and esab, and I will do a comparison video of all 3. I will make sure to test fit of the filter masks with all of them. I will also test the light out to see how useful it is in a dark environment.
Edit: as far as the mask goes I know the miller fits under the Viking without issue, since I wear the miller as fair amount.
Hi Greg, I’d like to be in the hat for the cap. Stars and Stripes would make a dash in the UK but I accept postage would make it a no go option. I would love to see the difference between what you actually see through the lens comparing a really cheap helmet and something more expensive. My helmet is a SIP from Halfords, a car group in the UK. It cost about £30. It definitely works and I’ve had it almost a year. I’m a more of hobby welder but am thinking about a better helmet and trying to decide what I really need to spend to see some improvement through the lens rather than hi tech features which I’ll never use.. Thanks for all the time you spend and the advice you offer.
I will put you in for the hat, I will pick a winner this weekend. I will try to shoot some video to show the clarity differences. It’s incredibly hard to get the camera to really show how different the visual quality is between high and low dollar hoods. It’s not because there isn’t a difference. It’s because the cameras cover up a lot of those differences. I should be able to find a way though.
Yes I understand the camera difficulties. In any of the auto modes everything gets adjusted to some sort of norm.
Shame I don’t know any other welders whose helmets I could take a look at.
Greg I have a Lincoln 3350 about a year old it does come with the grind mode but no light and blue tooth app crap. I like the idea of the light cause there are times it's handy I have attacked a cheap lite on top of mine. I don't like the idea of an app keep it simple stupid. I'm 70 so I really don't want to deal with an app to use a welding helmet. I've been looking at espresso machines and when they say they have this app to control the temperature of the boiler I move on to the next one. I'm just old school and I like simplicity.
I definitely agree, I don’t see much of a benefit of the app. The funny thing is, I can change all the settings on the hood in less time that the ap takes to load and communicate with the hood. If the hood could communicate and change settings with a welder, that would be somewhat useful. What they have going on now is of little use lol.
Yes, If you have your phone anywhere near what you are welding, it's toast. One weld "spatter" on the screen and it's done. A button on the helmet to change shades.... now were talkin! Something that will work when touched with a welding glove on (unlike a phone).
Like the hood don't like the price which doesn't use one every day little hi teck for me hope it does you a good job like to see people get what they need for work or play
Yeah, honestly the price is high for the average person. I definitely prefer the wide viewing angle and the clarity of the 3350, thankfully it’s pretty common to get the plain black version for sub 200$, and it is really as good as the ADV version.
Can you do a video about welding in the rain
Great idea, I definitely won’t use my body to test out what happens when you do things wrong lol. I will definitely give some tips on a video covering your idea 👍
Thanks
I’ll take that hat man I gots a super small dome man. And I’ve got a Lincoln helmet and it’s like decent but I’m sure theirs way higher versions that are better. I used my buddies old Miller one the other day and it was like ten times better than my helmet sadly
I need a case of that spray. 😊
It would be a best seller for sure 😅
Man - I need some of that spray! Can't use the cap - I have a Grande Gourd myself.
It works so good cleaning is a thing of the past lol. Don’t use too much, or everything will disappear forever lol.
didn't know astronaut training was preceding for being welder🤓 i like the name viking -
Greg now has 34 welding hoods 😂, but not the 3350 clone the Vulcan arc safe
If I can find one I will be testing that too, they are out of stock everywhere. I also found out that they have both a knock of Lincoln and miller now lol.
Any advise why my warning light is on en my welding helmet 3350 adv series
I would take a guess and say the battery is close to dead. Make sure you have a new battery in it and if that doesn’t fix it definitely call Lincoln, they should take care of you.
Having issues getting the app to detect the welding hood. I have Bluetooth turned on on my phone and the helmet, I see the pairing code on the Helmet, the app doesn't see the helmet it just buffers
I go to Bluetooth settings on my phone and scan, it recognizes that the helmet is there " lincoln adf " try to connect there, it says an app is required to connect to this device, I go to the App and it don't want to work
I seemed to have the same issue. Do this: turn airplane mode on and off your phone, so it resets the Bluetooth (or turn on/off the Bluetooth). Go on the welding hood and go to settings where it says blue tooth. Turn that on and off. Try to reconnect to the hood. It took doing that a couple times and it worked. The setup is far from ideal for Bluetooth lol.
Could i be a pain, and ask for a part number of the old.one?
The old one should be 3034-4, but it’s pre grind mode button. The new version appears to have the same cartridge as mine (with round dials) but it has a grind mode button.
Hey where can I get that spray?
I might market it, the stuff works great 😅. Use too much and everything might disappear though 😅
I am a fan of new technology but some shit is just useless. Great review
Yeah I am not quite sure what’s to gain here. In the time it takes to link Bluetooth I can change the memory settings and look at the arc timer on the helmet. Fronius made a lot more sense with theirs being able to control the welder, that makes some sense. For where things are at with the ADV, I don’t think it’s worth it for minimal gain.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg i like the Speedglas hoods nice field of vision. Have you considered making a video on respirators? You put a lot of depth details into the videos all from first hand experience that’s what is verry cool!
Does anyone like the bluetooth feature? I can't see the benefit and would like to understand why you like it.
Yeah, let me pull my phone out while I am welding to adjust my helmet, stupid.
So fronius has the ability to control their welder with their hood. This makes sense to a certain extent, but clearly the Lincoln doesn’t have that ability. I think you are going to see more push towards Bluetooth control on a welder with a phone soon, probably not a lot of welder control through a helmet though lol.
Bluetooth control from my phone to just my hood is pointless to me, it is after all, on my head. Now, Bluetooth control for my welder would have some benefit due to where I may be in position for a weld job, etc. Just my 2 cents.
I don’t see the appeal of a Bluetooth connection. Bluetooth sucks a significant amount of power which is definitely reflected in battery life if the user does not maintain charge with the solar cell. If Miller adds Bluetooth to the welders someday for connection to the helmet I would think the helmet will need a firmware update. Firmware updates are not possible on the helmet as far as I know. I’m interested to know more about the Fronius helmet and welder control.
Hello Greg, With the modern super bright super small flashlights I wouldn't put up with that "light". Get a headlamp, take the band off and super glue it on. If you want get one of the three headed ones for even more light. Also, in the modern world a warranty is much like a Fairy Tale. Gives you a good feeling (if you are very naive) but there isn't much truth in it. They will fine print you to death, then freight charges will drive you away, and if that doesn't do it, they will bring out the 'exceptions', i.e. were you wearing it on a rainy day or a sunny day? Both are excluded from coverage. Standing up, laying down, or sitting same thing. Then they will trot out the amortization. Your hood is 4.8 years old, then it is worth ten dollars. Now the "warranty" doesn't even cover the postage. If you still go ahead then they will add the exclusion if you ever changed a battery and didn't have a certified approved warrant center do the job. Still pressing on? Ok now they let you know the warranty only covers (after exclusions and provisos!) parts not labor. So you go ahead and send it back anyway. They then message you that the helmet was abused and not covered also that you owe them $450 for labor to examine a helmet out of warranty! Warranties are like insurance on steroids. But they seem to work according to P.T. Barnum's law, I suppose, "There is one born every second"!
Lol, "It'll probably be fine if you're in the dark under the van cutting off the catalytic converter."
Be sure to uninstall the app. Just because you are not using it doesn't mean THEY are not using it. Besides, you know the Canadian Government is looking at how to tax your arc time even as we speak!
I definitely don’t want someone finding out how little welding is done in the 8 hours of overtime I did on saturday 😅
Too much technology. More things to break
I am kind of that thought process too.