First Ride: 2021 Honda CRF300 Rally
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- First Ride: 2021 Honda CRF300 Rally
This is a video of my first ride out on my Honda CRF300 Rally. It was 6th March 2021, and 5C when I started and close to freezing by the time I finished. My visor misted up, I couldn't feel my fingers or toes by the end but it was great to get out on the bike.
To more useful information, I was able to do back country lanes, a 70mph dual carriageway, some town riding and a rocky byway to put the bike through it's paces. It is still being run in, so everything is at a slow-ish pace.
The locations are Edale, Whaley Bridge, Goyt Valley, Buxton and Millers Dale, all in or around the Peak District National Park in the UK.
00:00 Introduction
00:48 Mam Nick
03:30 Dual Carriageway 70mph
06:20 Goyt Valley
07:47 Rocky Trail
08:52 A6 East from Buxton
I've tried to answer all the questions that I could from my 'First Look' video. I'm sure there will be more on this, so by all means ask.
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Dude, if these are the roads you take to get groceries you are the envy of all motorcycledom!
Thanks. It’s awesome when not covered with snow and ice or pouring with rain. See all that green? 100% natural irrigation! I live in the Peak District National Park in the UK and moved here after 16 years in London. It has been a change!
Good video. You explained exactly the things that I wanted to know (power and speed capability). Thank you.
You're welcome!
Awesome man! Can't wait to get one in USA! Keep up the videos! Thanks!
Thanks, and I'll try to. Riding is limited at the moment, and probably until the 29th due to national lockdown, but there's lots of fettling to be done based on what I've found so far. May they arrive in the US soon. Cheers
New bike on a beautiful 2 track back road!!! Always a good day!!!
Always!
I'm glad I watched this,just picked up my 300 rally today,I'm not used to a single cylinder engine with a quiet exhaust.I thought there was something wrong with it until I watched this vid.you can clearly here it on your audio.Didnt have time to ride it much.Looking forward until tommorow.The guys at las cruces motorsports did a great job at shaving the seat and setting up the suspension for my 5'6" special needs.Much easier for me to ride it now.Definitely needs some upgrades.
Glad it helped
Great no-nonsense review.
Thanks
Excellent video! Beautiful scenery as well. Hopefully we will see the 300L and the Rally soon, here in the U.S.
Thanks! It is a beautiful place to live. Plenty of amazing scenery on your side of the pond too. May they sort out the deliveries quickly!
I have money down on one here in the PNW. Hoping it will come soon.
@@LastFrog1 Woodzman Adventures did this video czcams.com/video/VoYVNjUNLFw/video.html basically saying they had made it to port in the states, but there was no one to offload them and get them sent to their final destinations. A friend of mine who is actively seeking a 300L has had a couple of dealers tell him the same thing, saying they hope to see them by mid-April.
It's supposed to be here in USA by end of march,I've put a deposit already,just a waiting game now!
Nicely done! Thank you. Looking forward to your updates.
Thanks, I have a few more and then it’ll be mostly riding.
Haha shopping trip :-D we've all used that one lol. Absolute brilliant review thank you.
I've had the bike since March, and it's been out 3 times in 29 days. #essentialjourneysonly ;) From today that all changes.
Nice review. The biggest thing that Japanese manufacturers need to work on with their dual sport motorcycles while keeping it at a doable price point is improve the stock suspension. We should not have to run out and spend $1000 on aftermarket suspension on a brand new motorcycle. I'm not as worried about full adjustability as I am having proper dampening from the factory so they don't start hopping all over on little stutter bumps and the rear wheel stays stuck to the ground and the front does the same. Also they should offer optional spring rate options for different size riders when you purchase it from the factory. Not one size fits all. If only one make it at least set up for a 200lb-225lb rider with gear at the minimum. As far as the engine goes a 350cc single with a well spaced 6 speed gearbox is the sweet spot for an in between engine on a smaller displacement dual sport underneath the 450-500cc class. Even my old 90's Suzuki DR350se had 30hp and most importantly 21.4ft. lbs of torque with a well spaced 6 speed and easily traveled at 70mph with power in reserve for passing with a top speed of 85+ mph. The bikes also need to weight in under 300lbs but in all fairness have 300lbs as the maximum wet weight along with a full size 18 inch rear wheel. Last but not least start putting real seats that are useable from the factory back on motorcycles. The seats from the 80's even were much better in that regard, not a 2x4. If they can do all that and keep the bike at a 6KUS and under price point they would sell them as fast as they could make them. We shouldn't have to spend lots of money fixing mistakes of a stock motorcycle. Sure add ons of our liking are fine but not main expensive repairs. thanks for the upload.
Yup, I agree with all of that! I suppose they are trying to supply a very broad market, and the result is that not everything is covered as we would like. In the UK, I've seen plenty of CRF250L's which have never seen any off-road which are used as cheap, low maintenance commuter transport. There's also plenty which still have the stock suspension and seat, so perhaps for some uses, even though it's not great, it's enough for those users. Where the offering starts to fall apart is the use at the extremes, so though better damping would be amazing, if it even added $500, would that put off some of the road users who don't miss it when it's not there? I guess it would also come down to how much would these things cost? e.g. if it added $1000 to the list price of a new bike to have improved suspension, (and it was an option), would you choose to have it stock, or as you suggest, do it your self and get something that is just right for you at the same price point?
I do think that after a years of neglect, the dual sport segment of the market is getting more attention, and perhaps Honda will take the KTM approach of doing an 'R' version (or whatever Honda call it, a plus perhaps, that's what they did with my CB1000R) so that those that want to pay £5k for the stock CRF250L with basic suspension and seat can do so, and those who are looking for a bit more can buy a CRF250L+ that comes with the improved components without having to do them yourself and then discard all the original parts which you don't need. Until then, I guess I'll make do and see how I can get the most out of the bike. Ride safe!
Nice job on the review. You have a beautiful place to ride.
It gets busy over holiday weekends, but it is quite beautiful, when it’s not shrouded in fog!
I love it when something is just enough. I wouldn't go shooting gophers with a sniper rifle when a .22 works. Most people that ride motorcycles seem to prefer overkill though. I wish my DR650 was lighter and I wish my CB300R was capable of touring the long rough logging roads where I live on the West side of Canada. Enter CRF300L Rally. For now +1 motorcycles is my solution to fixing the weak area of one particular bike. I've had my CB300R, with same(ish) 286cc engine, up to 143km/hr, 88mph, enough to allow time travel if i had a flux capacitor so enough for any highway. I love the agility and low cost fun factor. My little bike did gain power after initial break which took an unusually long nearly 750 miles. in those first miles mine burnt a little oil and even after the first oil change service it burnt some and I topped it up. Strange for a Honda I thought but it burns none now and seals are tight and power increased a little and fuel economy increased higher also. 32km/l or 90mpg UK is what i get and I suspect similar numbers with similar weight bikes and the same engine. Even if it's mapped a little differently. That should give the Rally the same range with its 12.8L tank that my DR with 20L of up high sloshing fuel gets. My buddies are surprised how well I keep up with them on their bigger bikes on my 300 and I'm happy to have a little bike which is so cheap to run. Might be time soon to simplify my life and sell those 2 for a CRF. Would save money on insurance every year.
Awesome mate! Sounds like it’s doing exactly what you need. I guess the success of the bike, even when many people are still waiting for theirs is down to addressing key things with the 250, while remaining a dual sport, not an enduro, MX, heavyweight adventure bike, and everything else the bike isn’t trying to be. Enjoy the ride!
I have been waffling over the same thing. I just had to sell my DR650 so we can get the house we want in Calgary. Likely going to buy a new bike instead of waiting to save up again, as you only live once. I keep waffling back and forth as I like the power of the 650 but I like the idea of a small dual sport that is capable off road on the trails but also can handle the long stretches of Alberta hwy travel. The CRF300l Rally seems to tick most of my boxes.
Thanks for the video very informative cheers Phil 👍
Ey up, and you're welcome. (I'm a Yorkshire native, currently living abroad in Derbyshire!)
Awesome house great place for a dual sport. greetings from northern michigan
Greetings from Edale! Thanks, quite a few of the very local lanes have been closed due to erosion and action by walkers groups, but there’s still plenty to play on. Ride safe!
Good review - I agreed with pretty much all you said. Even on bumpy farm tracks, I'm not feeling the suspension so soft, but not done anything very bumpy, so reckon you could have a point. After 300 miles, the engine appears to free up a lot. 75mph (True SatNav) on the motorway is doable for long distances. I have now completed 4 x 50+ mile motorway jaunts. Summary: Great bike for the money and decent service intervals make this a workhorse. Downsides: 1st short for the street. The buzz at 4,500rpm, which gets better, but still there for me after 400 miles. It's like the buzz of death at 50mph on my old XJ900 Diversion.
You might be lighter than my 100+kg 🤣. Good to hear about the 300 mile plus. Someone else mentioned that and said it felt almost like an ECU change. Agreed on all the points, sorry to hear about the buzz, but there’s enough rev range to avoid it, I hope!
Great - thanks for this video. Looking at getting the rally. Just waiting for Aus release
May it come quickly! I know that there's a few people around the world waiting for theirs to arrive. It's now -2C outside, perhaps today wasn't the best day to go for a ride. At least I can now feel my fingers again!
I'm in Victoria I was told may yesterday. July was originally told
Put deposit on crfl but now I'm thinking of rally
@@jamesgeorgevellavella1961 I’m not on commission. This is a shame 😆. If you’re only going to ride trails, the standard is fine. If you would get the standard, then add a bigger tank, and a screen, and an LED headlamp... then the Rally might make more sense. If it’s like the UK, the standard ones will arrive first with the Rally’s a few weeks later, so you should be able to get a look at both. Good luck, I’m sure you’ll make the right choice whichever you go for. Ride safe
Also have my eye on a new 300 .... not sure if one of the new Honda’s or the new Kawasaki. Nice video and FANTASTIC scenery you have. I live in New England (USA) .
The new K looks great, though not coming to the UK unfortunately. Emissions I suspect. I did ask the local dealer. Mind you, Honda said that too about the CRF300L’s... New England is awesome! I’ve travelled a bit around there, though mostly on four wheels. Good luck with whatever you choose, the best bike is the one you’re riding! Cheers
@@PeakMotorcycles Where are your riding mate...I was stationed at RAF Mildehnahll 82-84...would love to come back again!
@@taichitherapy5176 the ride is all around where I live in the Peak District National Park. It’s sort of in the middle of England, 150 miles north on London, between (roughly!) Manchester and Sheffield. This ride was Edale-Whaley Bridge (Supermarket stop), Goyt Valley, Buxton, Millers Dale and back to Edale
@@PeakMotorcyclesBeautiful, it looks a bit like the Lake District. Thanks for sharing!
Great video, placed my order, hoping to get it soon
Awesome, and ride safe. I’d be interested to know if you get the power change/remap after 150 miles.
Thanks for the update, I’m very interested in the 300. Looking forward to more. I’d also be interested in a video on the ducati in your garage/shed.
Sure, though that’s Mrs. Peak Motorcycles bike! She said she’d do a video about bikes for new riders with shorter legs to gain confidence. Will sort that out!
@@PeakMotorcycles That would be interesting! As a shorter lady rider looking to change her triumph I’m interested to watch an other lady riders experiences. Cheers Jackie
Thanks very useful video.
Glad it was helpful!
Already have mine ordered. Looking forward to it
Exciting times! Have they given you a delivery date?
@@PeakMotorcycles unfortunately I won't know till a couple days before it arrives. My motocross sponsor put the order in as soon as he got the chance to.
@@Moto-kp2jt good luck mate. May it come soon.
May
Couldn't get exact day though. But they could be talking shit as I was paying at the time lol
Thanks for the good review, and for the beautiful ride. I am pretty sure that I am shorter (5’11”) and lighter (155 lbs.) than you, so the suspension and handlebar height issues you mentioned may not be a problem for me. I talked with my local (Dallas, TX U.S.A.) Honda dealer yesterday. He says they will be in stock here in late April 2021.
Can’t wait to get my hands on one!
Yup, you should be fine, or at least definitely ride it and see how you get on with the stock settings. If a bit too much sag, then the pre-load can help a bit, and the spring rate is probably just fine for you. Currently it seems that YSS is the only other shock option, with a Hyperpro and Hagon on the way. Good luck for late April. As a former Texas resident, I know that the riding season has other constraints when it it comes to heat! Good luck.
@@PeakMotorcycles Very good, and thanks for the reply and info on the after-market shocks.
I currently ride a 2006 KLR 650. I’ve had it since 2007, and ride it all year long no matter the temperature. Snow and ice are the only things that keep me off the bike.
Will definitely be keeping the KLR after purchasing the CRF300L. It’s just such a joy to ride.
Happy Trails
Nice video, I’ve just ordered a rally from Nottingham Honda .keep post videos bro .
Will do. Lockdown rainy weekend coming so deliveries permitting I’ll be wiring in the satnav bracket to the rather helpfully accessory connector wiring already on the inside left fairing, seeing how far I can wind on the pre-load (and what it does for sag), and maybe even bar replacement as the risers turned up today, but no bars yet. ‘Might as well get as much done as I can during lockdown. No news on the bash guard or from the local Ohlins distributed on compatible springs and shock, but there’s plenty of time for that. May yours arrive soon, the 29th is just around the corner 🤣 Ride safe!
Excellent, honest and valuable review - I have a CRF250M in Thailand, and now thinking of getting the 300 Rally. The 250M had slightly firmer suspension and bigger brakes, but it's not available any more, which is a shame as a CRF300M would be nice. Locally made Hondas are a great price here, and there's also some good, low price accessories available in Thailand - but unfortunately I've heard that the Thai spec bikes have lowered suspension, so may need to see how I can get mine back to up to a full manly height.
There's some simple modifications that the locals do to the front suspension, so hopefully not too costly to beef up the front end?
PS - just Subscribed :-)
Thanks! I think Thailand is leading the world in CRF300L availability. And yes, an M would have been great! Good luck with finding one that fits.
Thanks for the sub!
Beautiful ride
Thanks. It's a nice part of the world. Especially when it's not raining!
I feel the same ways. I live in Oregon NW USA
Excellent Moto
Thanks
Very mature and sensible review however brief. But I sense good follow ups coming!
Thanks! I’ll try to keep them brief.
You are awesome
Great review
Thanks!
I have just been out on my new crf300l i upgraded the shock and spring and fork spring 15 wait oil in the opposite fork , from Andy fire fox racing in yorkshire .it turned the bike in to a really great off-road bike it was to soft with 20k of bags on the back i am 78 k i am now set for adventure .great bike for the cash nice video I have ordered bar rises too and protaper bars If any body decides to upgrade be careful not to push the secondary top spring down moor than 3mil you will struggle to get it back out there is an awkward circlip you need to remove and refit that holds the spring in and the plastic spacer at the bottom under the big spring can be removed your damping fork with oil is 500mil or 70mm from the top when the fork is Pushed in fully Hope this is useful info .
Do you mind if I ask which shock and springs you picked and the cost? Also were they 300L specific ones, or the 250L’s? Thanks
@@PeakMotorcycles Andy at firefox did the development with honda he will set it up for you the shock and spring yss shock £350 and the front spring was £70 i think it transforms the bike oil £10 ,,,,, need moor help 07977131169 simon
@@PeakMotorcycles yss suspension set to my wight and kit
Great info, thanks Simon. Could you share the cost? (I can also give Andy at Firefox a call in the morning if preferred).
Also, does the YSS have a remote reservoir/adjuster?
Thank you for the info. Son and I are planning a US trip (Grand Canyon, Colorado) this summer on Adventure Touring bikes. Didn't realize the market right now. We were looking to rent, but now might buy used. Hard time finding anything. So, your information makes a lot of sense why we are having a hard time. Thanks again! (edit) I forgot to ask if you or your subscribers have any suggestions on where we should search for bikes. TYIA. New Sub also!
Hi,
I guess you mean to rent for your trip? I’m in the UK, so don’t know much about the US, but you could try Curtis at www.gsmotoadventures.com/rentals to see if he can help you out. I’d rented an Africa Twin from him a few years ago. I thought they’d moved to CO, but the website still says Las Vegas so they might still be there. Good luck.
@@PeakMotorcycles thank you. I’ll try Curtis.
The website still says NV, no updates to the Instagram for a couple of years and the Feb newsletter sounds like it’s from early 2018. They do have a Facebook page which says they are moving to Montrose CO in 2020. Not sure if that happened with Covid, but here’s the link. facebook.com/228469557355422/posts/1102194616649574/?d=n
Greetings from Corpus Christi Texas
Nice part of the world! (I used to live in Texas and worked up and down the Gulf coast)
Good review..I'll take one for a ride if I can but I reckon I'll stick with my 250 Rally for a bit longer.
Thanks and yes, if you had nothing before (me!) then the 300 is definitely more of an upgrade than from the 250. There's plenty of small improvements, but it's not a giant leap, and the 250 is a pretty good bike! Ride safe.
If you can find a good used at prices that aren't a joke. That's part of reasons I went new and perfect timing
useful video; thanks for posting. For anyone consider getting one of these, do please be aware that its a road bike dressed up to look like an off-road bike. As a cheap fun road bike, its ideal. But for off road its pitiful.
You’re welcome, but I think it also depends on the rider. I’ve seen some great riders do amazing things with these off road, even with stock suspension. For those less able, like me, it is definitely less capable. I could blame the bike, but I suspect that is also rider related.
The best adventure bike
That’s a big claim. 🤣 It’s certainly one of the cheapest! Let’s see how far it can be pushed!
@@PeakMotorcycles and the lightest too.. nice
thanks for your work, a great video and information. Any thoughts on this vs. Kawasaki 300? better suspension? choice? I am returning to motorcycling after 25 years. thanks again
Hi, Tricky one, I haven't ridden the KLX, and neither the outgoing one nor the new one are available in the UK so I don't really have anything to compare. From other peoples comments, it seems that you can actually test ride and buy the KLX300, whereas the Honda is waiting lists and slipping delivery dates. No idea why there's the difference, unless Kawasaki have their supply chain sorted and Honda do not. From what I've read on the internet (so please take it with a pinch of salt) is that the Kawasaki is a more off road focussed dual sport and the Honda is more road, but that's just the internet, so who knows. Perhaps the KLX is 55/45 and the CRF 45/55... My apologies that I cannot help any more than that.
I have the 250 rally and upgraded with the YSS rear shock no reservoir $ 450 along with the Race Tech fork upgrade $210. World of diff - absorbs the terrain and still is comfy ( im 5-10 200 lbs) also get the Seat Concepts seat! Cheers mate Allan So Cali USA
Thank Allan, I expect I’ll do something similar. Not many fork upgrades yet, so I’m hanging on to see what choice there is. The K-Tech cartridges are one option but they come at a price... I’ll see what else. And if I can get an SC seat over here.
So Cali? Lucky you, must be some great riding out there. I lived in SD for a year!
I would take the very same route to the shop I had the 250 l with big tank and did the suspension it transforms it on and off road spend 700 on suspension and you will have yourself a very capable bike indeed
I will. Just waiting to get my forks back…
We have ordered one each last week, now just waiting. No stock in Australia as yet. I reckon those short gears will prove their worth once you're off the bitumen. A change in the ECU? I'd like to know more about that, first I've heard of such a thing. Maybe it's common practice nowadays, to provide a brand new engine some protection during the running-in period. The improvement could also be as everything beds in and frees up, or a combination of the two. I'll keep that in mind when ours arrive. Thanks for the video.
Hi, I’ve not got to 150 miles yet, but a couple of folks who have the non-Rally bikes (they arrived a week earlier in the UK) have already got the miles in, and the fact that two people noted the same, at the same mileage, made me think it was an ECU thing. I have 90 miles to go, which I’ll try to get done at the weekend and will let you know how it goes. I’m sure the engine freeing up helps too, but I would have thought that would be more gradual rather than a step at 150 miles. Good luck with getting yours, and yes, the short gears are ideal for off the bitumen. Ride safe!
@@PeakMotorcycles Did you notice any change at 150 in the end? Thanks
@@dougster2k no, not really. There has been a gradual ‘loosening’. I’m at over 600 miles now and it definitely has a bit more poke than when brand new and as I’m at the end of the running in period, I’ve occasionally been pushing it to 7k revs where there’s a bit more. First service in a couple of weeks and will then see what it does up to 10k.
Loving your videos Andre. Nothing like getting a brand new bike. I had my 2003 XR400 brand new still own it to this very day. We do some of the lanes you do we also know some others (all legal too) & there’s some you know that we don’t I’d love to know where you get the TET UK maps from didn’t know these lanes existed ! I too am an avid Enduristan fan love the stuff it’s excellent quality & seems to be made of the same stuff Batman’s suit is made of ! Just got the 15ltr rucksack it’s brilliant but having its first outing 29th May 2 XR’s 3 or 4 Beta’s you’re welcome to come out with us if you’re free. Meeting at the Peak Edge Hotel was Red Lion Darley Road about 9/9:30. Ride safely 👍🇬🇧
Hi mate, and thanks. This CZcams thing sort of happened by accident. It’s the first bike I’ve bought without seeing one. (I’d ridden a 250 and felt it just needed a bit more to persuade me, so I took a chance.) I didn’t know I’d be one of the first outside of Thailand to get one. For the TET maps, I download the .gpx from the TET site and I’ve put some open source (free, but donations welcome to the makers) Peak District topo maps on my BMW Nav VI, which is a Garmin Zumo 660 underneath, or similar. It uses the same mount.
29th May sounds great, but I must respectfully decline; family and friends weekend away that weekend, and though a day riding in the peaks would be brilliant, I suspect cancelling my plans or going late will not be the most popular decision. Not if I want to keep riding with both knees 🤣🤣🤣. I hope you have a great day out. A Saturday on a bank holiday weekend might be a popular choice. Ride safe yourself and perhaps see you out there another time.
The Enduristan stuff is great. I’ve bought everything I’ve done videos for so far, which are proving popular, so they’ve sent me a tail pack and some L Blizzards for free. And by free, it does involve me lending them my bike for the stand for the whole weekend at the ABR festival. Nothing’s free these days 🤣
@@PeakMotorcycles thanks for your reply Andre. Haven’t got a bike nav all by memory & discovery ! The 300 rally looks great it’s a lovely bike like you say though suspension needs some attention maybe an FMF too ? That’s not a bad deal with the Enduristan maybe you’ll get some more gear on the day free 15 rucksack’s great. I have the front fender pack, large add pack, really tail pack & heatguard, well engineered & thought out kit. Yes I’ll look out for you on the trails. I’m only getting out bank Hol weekend as the wife is working 😉. I do think for some of the big rock lanes we go on a slim XR is probably more bombproof but on the TETs I think yours is more suited. Maybe it’s time for a nice XR as an investment 🤔. Take care enjoy the ride !
@@teepee4296 I tried the fender pack, but the Rally headlamp and fairing gets in the way so it’ll go on the underside of my blizzards. Tail pack and “Inferno” heat shield I have as well, though the stock silencer runs cold enough that I’ve not needed to use it yet. As for the Rally, 100% that it’s a lightweight adventure bike and better suited to the TET than to rocky trails. The XR, or even the 300L fairs better on technical stuff, but the Rally will still go there, just not as well as trail bikes. The suspension will be getting attention. I’m just about to take my forks off to pack up and send to a factory in Italy 😉. Delighted to be the first person anywhere to get these particular fork cartridges, set up for the Rally. It does mean the CRF will be off the road for a few weeks, but I have some more tinkering to do in the garage and some other bikes to ride out of it. Tomorrow is a lap of Lincolnshire (on road). CB1000R day if it’s dry, 1250GS day if it’s not. Screen if you want to go faster, as they say… (apologies 🤣)
@@teepee4296 the other way is to download the .gpx and use one of the online maps (not sure if ordnance survey online lets you import .gpx’s If it does, that’s ideal). You could then at least see where they were and either print or just mark up a paper map or try to memorise the turnings. Or I’ll join you at some point and show you what I’ve found 😉
@@PeakMotorcycles completely agree, yes saw your fender vid shame as it’s a good bit of kit up front I just keep a front tube in it. Plenty of gear in the tail pack I use on a rack on the XR with my old Hebo fender bag housing my rear tube. I’ve got a Motopressor in the tailpack it’s a great bit of kit hard wired from my battery wired through to the air box for quick access. My XR has an electric start kit that I fitted makes a big difference 👍 Well that’s fancy sending the forks to Italy but when you’ve done it will be an amazing Rally, it’s exactly the bike I’d have for touring too.
The change in the ECU after a certain mileage has been met is a real possibility. I never believed it was a real thing till one of our newer cars (totaled now - stupid moose) hit 8000 miles. It was fine power-wise before this, or at least we thought, that is until it one day felt like it had an extra 30-40 horsepower out of nowhere and it went from 24mpg average to 29mpg average.
Sorry to hear about the car, and the moose! I'll hopefully pass the 150 miles in the next few weeks and will let you know. I guess it's an easy thing to do these days with adding some code to the ECU to avoid relying on the new owner not to push the limits. We shall see. A few extra hp, though not required, would be appreciated.
@3:54 Yeah, sounds like as if you were weeping. :)
Weeping? It's always emotional. Sometimes at least.
Maybe you mentioned it in the video and I just missed it, but how comfortable is the seat for longer rides? Also how good is the wind protection on the highway? I had a CRF450L for a week test period and that was very uncomfortable. Great video and scenery by the way.
Hi, The ride was too short to really say for comfort. Since then I’ve done a 90 minute ride and didn’t notice the seat, so I think this is a good thing. How would you define longer? Wind protection is adequate but not amazing at 70mph for someone of my height 183cm. There is some buffeting from the top of the screen at 70mph which isn’t particularly high. I’ve heard some had fitted a wing to the top of the screen and it made a significant difference. 50mph is fine. I’ll explore more and let you know.
@@PeakMotorcycles Thanks! Riding for 90 minutes without noticing the seat is quite good. I was riding a Tenere700 for two weeks and while the bike is amazing, the windshield was blowing all the wind straight into my helmet making it very uncomfortable for long distance/ highway riding.
i orderd my rally same time this was posted and it may not be here till april 2022 :( cheers from australia
😳 it’s still pretty bad here, with orders in October due in May, but nothing like that. Sorry to hear. May it arrive sooner… I ordered mine the day after the press release that they were coming to the UK and had no idea they’d be in such short supply. Mine arrived in February and when they called to say it was here we were in full lockdown and there was snow on the ground so I asked if they could keep it for a few weeks. Best of luck to you on it showing up soon!
Man that’s some view
Aye, there are plenty worse!
I got a little brother, a CRF150L. It's Indonesian built, air cooled, 5 speed, 14 hp monster all for 1800 GBP. Take a look at YSS shocks out of Thailand, I have them on both of my bikes here. They are good quality, not some no name shiny junk. Here in Indonesia they are also not very expensive.
We don’t get the CRF150L either. For a long time the UK market has been limited by ‘learner’ bike (you can only start on a bike up to 125cc, so that killed the 125-400 market for a while. There’s now a few more available but it’s slow going. Your 150 sounds great! I know YSS, and I’ve just had some new YSS shocks delivered for my XV1100 project, when I get around to it!
@@PeakMotorcycles The 150 is not "enough" of a bike for Europe unless you would always stay on small roads and such. it's happy at 45 MPH which is fine here in Asia. We have the 250 Rally here since there is a tax limit at above that displacement and "big" bikes now cost 2x European prices. I grew up in the USA and for long time thought 600cc was a small bike. All that has changed and the 300 looks like a really nice bike. Glad to see you got the led lighting as it seems some western markets don't get that.
Not enough? There are plenty of people riding 125’s here and the market is limited by the learner license rules. Mrs. Peak Motorcycle rode a 9hp YBR125 Custom for 5 years. There is also a power limit of 15hp, so if they kept the power limit but removed the cc restriction, I’m sure a 150 would do ok here for that part of the market. Mind you, this CRF300L is the first bike under 30hp I’ve owned since my first bike, a Yamaha DT125, though that would do 70mph+
@@PeakMotorcycles You are missing my point and have not ridden my bike. With its gearing its already at high revs doing 45 MPH. I got it to 60 few times and the poor thing was screaming its head off, would you like to listen to this for hours on end? Or try to pass someone on the freeway? I like small bikes, so I don't understand your comment fully. The 300 you have is great, enjoy.
@@pawelwolski1316 and you are missing mine, perhaps. I am simply challenging your point that a bike with ‘150cc is not “enough” of a bike for Europe’, when so many bikes here have smaller engines and are definitely enough for Europe. Towns and cities have a 30mph speed limit, rural areas 50mph and off road trails are travelled at even slower speeds. I agree that you would not wish to cover many motorway miles on a 150 (and less so on a 125) but that’s not really what these bikes are for. The best bike is the one you’re riding and enjoying regardless of where you are and to generalise that the size of engine is unsuitable for a continent, when the evidence in terms of sales and use is quite the opposite. All I was saying is that if the tax and learning system here encouraged 150’s we’d have a lot more of them. Ride safe 😉
Did you change out stock signal lights for LEDs? Also, I'd like to comment on suspension "issues" with this bike. I find the suspension on this bike is superb and works great for me. I adjusted the rear preload to suit my weight, as it was a little soft for me, to about one turn away from full tension. I adjusted it originally as firm as it could go but found rear too firm and made front suspension a little harsh. It most definitely would've been a bonus to have compression and rebound adjustability but honestly it's fine the way it is for me anyway. I weigh about 205lbs fully geared up.
Hi, Mine came with LED signals. That's standard in the UK. I'm a bit more than 205lbs, a lot more with luggage, so yes, makes sense that if you're the right weight for the suspension then it needs no change. Plenty of folks have and will wide the bike stock and be perfectly happy with it!
Really useful getting a real world ride review, I agree that most other ‘reviews’ have been pretty thin!
Bit disappointing that the sump guard is just for show plastic, they still haven’t sorted the soft suspension.....and that the bars need rising. What does the extra £1100 get in the Rally compared to the std ‘l’? Is it just the fuel tank and screen?
When you’re able it will be great to check out the range of the tank. My old 250l struggled on road riding speeds with range hauling my 100kg.
Stay safe 👍
Hi,
So I think the extras are the fuel tank (the non-rally now has a smaller one than before), fuel tank screen and LED headlamp. My Rally has LED indicators too, not sure if that’s the same on the non-rally. I think both now have the slipper clutch and slightly lower gearing for 1-4 and a slightly longer 6th, but I think that’s it. I’ve seen a few posts from people looking for a larger tank for the standard. I guess LED headlamps are pricey (though the Thai L has one...), so really not much in it. I guess that if you wanted a bigger tank, screen and LED’s you might as well get a rally, as there’s probably not a lot of change out of £1k for that (assuming an expensive headlamp!). I’m a bit over 100kg, and my 300 will pull up a 15% hill in 5th from 30mph and cruise at 70mph in 6th without too much buzzing. Stay safe too!
@@PeakMotorcycles cheers A, it is tempting. I bought my last 250l after hiring one in Vietnam. It survived a 75ft drop off a mountain (caught by bamboo) better than the rider (me) who knackered foot ligaments. I’m a big fan of bamboo now though, it was another few hundred feet straight down if not for the plant! 🙏🏼
@@ianjames3078 😳. That’s a pretty high bar to set for any motorcycle purchase.... do you mention that when going for rest rides? Most people ask what the switches do. It would be awesome to ask if it can survive a 75ft fall onto bamboo, and if they say yes, ask how about 175ft? If they ask, just say, no reason! 🤣
I guess the practical split might be the L is for enduro riders who no longer need the power, won’t miss the servicing and can tolerate the extra 80lb. The Rally, perhaps, is for adventure bike riders who think 150kg (330lbs) is lightweight and would miss not having a screen and the range. (It is up to 1250GSA range perhaps...) Anyway, whatever you choose, I’m sure it’ll be the right decision.
Yes you can probably turn the rear spring one turn. And if the 300 is the same as the 250 you will discover that only one front fork has a spring. You could add a spring to the other fork.
Thanks, will give it a go.
@@PeakMotorcycles 👍👌
Thanks for your first impressions. Looks on the soft side offroad on gravel, we expected that. But what about the weight? My Beta Alp 200 is about 40 kg lighter than your Rally. Isn't the Honda a bit lardy to ride? Or does she hide her weight? Great roads just outside your doorstep, by the way. Cheerio from Nürnberg/Germany, Günter
Hi Günter, yup, exactly as you said, it is on the soft side on gravel, and I’ve done some rocky trails and slow it’s ok, but as confidence increases the suspension runs out. The weight is mostly low down, unless you fill the 12l tank and it doesn’t feel as heavy as it should. It’s definitely more of a dual sport than an enduro, but at the price point, it does it quite well. I’ve had it for a month and it continues to make me smile!
@@PeakMotorcycles I find the CRF a very interesting bike. Not a sportsbike, but very civil and quiet - that is obviously most important for tracks we shrae with other people. Your 12 l tank helps with range. My Beta Alp 200 has only 6 l on board, that's about 90 miles in the Alps
Nice videos.....which rack did you opt for?
None 🤣. I have the Honda top box rack and the H2C rack, and both weigh a couple of kilos. I put the Enduristan Rally pack on and it bolts through the plastic, and weighs next to nothing, so I think I will mostly be using that. If I need more luggage capacity, I’ll put the H2C rack back on and strap a dry bag to it.
Nice! Always loved these bikes. Had the crf250l but regretfully sold it due to too low power. Still seems under powered if it can't comfortly do the normal eu speed limit of 130 km per hour. It just needs to be a 350 or 400cc. Why can't manufactures get the unicorn recipe right?
Yup, I agree. I think they are saving on R&D by modifying the existing engine rather than creating a new one. I think it would do 130kph, just not well, or not well enough. Ideally, I’d like a Tenere 700 that weighs 150kg for under £7k (That would have been my ideal unicorn!)
A twin 450 that comes in @~150kg with a good suspension and a full frame that can support some panniers. Otherwise, these Honda Rallies look great. Thank you for sharing.
@@JasonFiske High hopes for a KTM490 Adventure perhaps?!
@@PeakMotorcycles I'm on my "Adventure KTM 500" now. I don't love it on the highway, but off-road is a blast.
Awesome! I guess that is the ongoing challenge that a bike with off-road suspension and gearing is never going to be brilliant on the highway. And a bike that has hard suspension for the highway with high speed, low rev, gearing is going to struggle off road. I guess the ideal bike is one that is ok at both, rather than terrible at both :)
Interested to know how it is 1 year on? My 2nd hand one is about 5 months old and has just covered 600 miles. Same thoughts on suspension as you. To my surprise though was the clutch - burnt out on the last ride. I know the old 250's had this problem with the springs and many upgraded with the CB clutch but wondered if you had similar issues?
I’m at just over 2000 miles now. Still on my first clutch and stock tyres (though they are nearly done). I’ve heard of others whose clutch burned through after long steep climbs, but mines been ok so far.
Can you tell something about wind protection and noise? Is the windshield effective?
How tall are you? I’m 1m83cm and the screen and fairing keeps the wind off my body, but my shoulders and head are in the breeze. Noise didn’t feel too bad, but my Schubert’s S2 Pro is pretty quiet. With a dual sport helmet with a peak and goggles, that might well be different.
I'm 179 cm. Thanks for your answer.
Short low gears are a good thing
100% Especially for a novice like me on the rocky trails we have here. Though for on road use, 1st is a bit redundant for anything other than a steep hill start. It reminds me a bit of the bike I learned on, a Yamaha DT125 two stroke. The power band was rather narrow, so on road ‘ran out’ of 1st in a second or two!
@@PeakMotorcycles try fitting a rear sprocket with one less tooth. I tried two less on my 250 rally and it makes a notable difference but I think one tooth less will be better.
@@PeakMotorcycles also, if you are going to spend money on rear suspension, get a unit with a remote preload adjuster. Without its very difficult to adjust.
Great video, and thats the perfect bike for the place you live 👍
@@davidroberts7490 absolutely. I’m waiting to see if the Ohlins unit for the 250l rally will fit or if they need to make any tweaks for the frame changes on the 300. That has a separate adjuster. Hopefully there’s a sensible and protected place to put it. I will still try the pre-load first though, though I don’t think that will be the answer.
Getting this bike soon mate , fantastic review 👍
Awesome. 'Can't wait for the end of Lockdown to have a proper go. Did they give you a delivery date? (Hopefully I've found and shared anything that needs tweaking by then!)
Honda saying September at the moment
Just ordered mine, 145,000 baht here in Thailand, unbelievable value for money. That's 3,900 euro...
Wow, that's about half the price vs the UK! And you had them first too. May it turn up quickly. Ride safe.
$8698 cost me in Australia but 12months reg
Why is it so much here?
Thats a good reason to move to Thailand !!
i believe they are built in thailand so no import tariffs, i guess thats why they are so cheap there.
i am waiting for april 12 in the u.k when you should be able to visit motorcycle dealers to get a test ride on one of these and hopefully buy one.
Really appreciate this review! I've got a deposit down on a Rally here in the US, but just waiting on a delivery date. I've started to worry about whether the 300 will carry me on interstate commuting stretches where 70 mph or so is needed to keep up with traffic. (My current bike is a KLR650... Not usual conversation to consider the KLR as the faster bike. Ha!) Still a little concerned with that, actually. You felt "OK" on the double lane stretches?
I think 70mph is fine. If you find it a bit blowy, apparently a wing on the top of the screen is a great improvement. I’m coming up to 150 miles on mine and each time I go out it feels like it’s freeing up. I’ll have another go on a freeway next time to see if 70 (or 70+) comes easier.
@@PeakMotorcycles If you find it in you to update a stranger on how it does on the highway post 150 miles, I would so appreciate it! It’s beautiful, regardless!
@@adamjordan3551 yes sir. Lockdown finishes on Monday. If I don’t have a reason to get out at the weekend, I’ll let you know next week.
@@PeakMotorcycles THANK YOU!
What is your weight in kg? I have 91 and suspect after buying rally need to buy rear suspension too, what your think? 250 has maximum load 150 kg. What written in 300 manual? Service hours for oil change are the same as for 250?
Oof, personal question.... pre-lockdown or including lockdown 🤣. I’m 100kg+. Not sure if 91 will tip the balance quite as much. I’d suggest trying one if you can to see how it behaves.
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the sound might suck but the scenery sure is nice. Thanks for your insight
I’m working on the sound. Three mics now to test so I’ll do a few local laps with each and then compare... hopefully it will improve.
@@PeakMotorcycles In the past with same sounding audio issues, I have found the connections on the external mic wire was the culprit. I now spray all connectors, including the female connection on the camera, with electrical contact cleaner. Solves the issue for me, and prevents it if done regularly.
@@Scoottoots Nice one. I'll give that a go. Thank you!
I was not able to find heavier springs on the front or rear so far. Do you have a source
I’m afraid not for the front. I think some people have used the CRF250L fork springs, but there’s a bit more suspension travel on the 300 so I’m not sure how that works. For the rear, as a spring only, I’m not aware of any. I know that replacement rear shocks are available from YSS, Nitron, Hyperpro and Hagon. Hyperpro might do a spring only, but you’d still have the stock damping...
I was a little surprised with your comment on top speed. I have an ‘86 Kawasaki KLR250. Even being 35 years old, my 250 can still drive at 75 MPH, and I can hit 90 MPH.
The 80’s were a wonderful decade for emissions. Try stuffing a sock in the air filter and blocking up half the tailpipe and see how fast it runs 😉. After 100 miles more, it does seem to be loosening up a bit, but I’m running in until 300 miles, so a bit of a way to go before I can use all the Rev range. Update to follow when I can.
Gotcha! Thanks for the response. I look forward to hearing more.
I think it has more in it, the gearing jump from 5th to 6th is quite a gap, and currently I’m not going over 6k revs so taking it up to 10k in 5th before shifting should get some more out of it.
@@PeakMotorcycles looking forward to it.
Interesting thinking of selling my second bike my Grom towards this.
That’s a bit of a change of style, but it seems that some of the Grom parts will also fit the CRF, so I guess Honda share some parts across models.
How is the stock suspension on the 300 Rally?
About the same as the 250. Probably ok if suspension is not a priority, but if you’re heavier, carrying a pillion or luggage or navigating rocky terrain, it’s not great. The ground clearance is misleading as from stock settings you lose 70mm just from the weight of the bike and more than half when a rider is on. Someone should do a video about it 😉
Your visor normally get that foggy?
Nope, but it was almost freezing. I need to check the seal on the pin lock, though only some of it was on the visor. Some was also on the inner side pinlock due to the temperature. 😁 Warmer weather would be the perfect solution!
Are there any crash bar options for 300 Rallye? 🤔
Not that I have seen so far, but it’s early days. I have a metal bash plate on order (a Honda one) but it’s running late.
I am from Dhaka,Bangladesh and thank you for your presentation,If I have chance I will buy this bike HONDA.CRF.300 RALLY OF COURSE WITH REAR CARRIER AND GO FOR TOUR
You are very welcome. Good luck.
I have 250 Rally 2017 model, Bore up 350 cc, problem now. exhaust can I still using the stock Exhaust, any one can explain?
Not me I’m afraid, hopefully someone else can chip in with an answer. How is it at 350cc?
I feel this is an interim fix released to address the Euro equivalent of the EPA. ABS mandatory on several overseas countries now. And new emissions standards. Honda, as well as all the other makers are increasing the combustion chamber as a fix. But, you're not getting much more HP. This model gives you only 2 more HP than the 250 and its still heavy for its class.
There will be a real upgrade in a couple years. Wait for that one.
Yup. I’m sure you are right. But then I’ve been saying that for 7 years about the 250, and I’m not getting any younger 😁
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You're welcome! Ride safe.
Is it comfortable on The main Road?
Hi, yes. The seat is more comfortable than it looks and 50mph is fine. 70mph is ok, but getting windy. If 80mph was legal in the UK I expect it would be both noisy and pushing the engine.
My excitement for this motorcycle is unreal.. I’m ready, my body is ready!
How do you find the weight in the corners?
Hi, it carries the weight quite low down, so it doesn’t feel particularly heavy through corners. The steering is pretty light and it turns in easy.
It has it’s faults, but so does any bike. It’s never going to be a better off-roader than an enduro, or a best in class on road adventure bike, but for a dual sport, at this price point, I’m impressed! I also have a R1250GS, a CB1000R and a Ducati 800 scrambler and though the CRF is the cheapest of the four, it does things which none of the others will do.
Same... can’t wait for April (Canada).
@@KyleMcStravick can’t wait for April here either. National lockdown in England ends on March 29th.... I cannot wait!
@@KyleMcStravick I am also looking forward to April! (Russia)
pick mine up from Yukon Honda in a couple of weeks
That’s great news! Have fun. Must be some great riding out there?!
Awesome bud cheers 👍🏻 how did it compare to the fantic 🤔
Bigger, heavier, but more road focused. I think the CRF is more of a true dual sport and the Fantic is a detuned enduro.
Does it have rubber cush drive ?
Does it feel heavy ?
I don’t know about the cush drive. I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere, so would assume not. As for the weight, I guess it’s what you are used to. I also ride a R1250GS, so compared to that it’s a bicycle! I’ve also ridden a Yamaha 250 MX bike which weighed 50kg less than the CRF300L, so if that’s what you are used to, then it will be heavy. Most of the weight is carried low down, so once moving it feels light, and it turns in easily. I haven’t dropped it yet, so can’t comment on picking it up from flat, but again, lighter than a GS, heavier than an enduro/Mx bike. I hope this helps.
@@PeakMotorcycles Thank you Peak Motorcycles.
Just need a test to get one if it's ok for me. I have an XRV750, 2003 it's to havy for me and my body are to old after 50 years of driving motorcycle ;-)
That’s the best way. Far to many opinions in the internet, and everyone is different, so getting out on one and seeing what it’s good at (and what it isn’t!) is the only way to know. The challenge, at least for now, will be finding one to test ride. Good luck!
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Thanks
How tall are you and how was reaching the ground?
I’m 6’1”/183cm and it’s very easy to flat foot it. Some of this is due to the amount of sag on the shock...
183 is 6ft, not 6ft1... anyhow good video
@@orthoschnapp5565 I go the other way, I’m 6’1” and guessed that was 183. It’s a complex and highly accurate measure based on my 12” ruler being 30cm, so 6 of them would be 180 plus one is near enough to 3cm. I’d never tried looking it up. Thanks for the clarity. So I’m 185.5cm. Is that better 🤣. Perhaps more relevant for seat heights, I’ve a 33” inside leg, which I’d guess is about 83cm as 36” is 3 rulers, less 3”, but in the interest of accuracy, I checked that and it’s 83.82cm.
Is the suspension better than ten crf 250l or even soft ?
i'm driving a new crf250 l with 440 km ... is it worth switching or will i stay with my 250?
Since it also has a weak suspension ....
Hi,
I don’t have a CRF250, and it’s been a while since I rode one, but I think they are pretty similar, if not the same. Given that CRF300L’s are like hens teeth at the moment, in your position, I’d keep the 250. There’s lots of small improvements, but not sure if that’s enough for the increased cost
@@PeakMotorcycles Thx !
That bike is like (not equal, just very similar) a Honda XRE 300 , made in Brazil.
Great, we don’t get that here. It looks similar, but we have a six speed gearbox, electric start (I saw this which only mentioned a kick start... moto-bike2020.com/honda-xre-300-2021/) USD forks, slipper clutch , updated dash, frame, swing arm, a different seat, all for double the price 🤣. If they would sell the XRE here, at that price, they would sell loads of them, though I suspect it’s an emissions thing, so they probably won’t. Ride safe!
Não tem nada a ver Jaime, nada mesmo.
Any drz owners here thinking about switching over to the rally? I’m thinking about it because it’s checks more of my boxes, such as fuel injection, wind protection, 6 gears.
Thanks! Not me I'm afraid, but a DRZ400 was probably my choice, if I could find one (they've not been available in the UK for some time now due to emissions). On paper at least, the DRZ400 is a bit lighter, and has a bit more power. That said, there's not a lot in it, and I think, for the UK at least, the CRF300L is the closest dual sport available to what the DRZ was. Hopefully some of the DRZ owners might see this and have an opinion, though the DRZ has remained popular for some time for good reason, and the bar has been set high. Thoughts from all are of course welcome!
@@PeakMotorcycles the drz is very capable off-road but I’m leaning towards something a little more road oriented that doesn’t compromise its off-road abilities and I think that’s the rally.
Sounds ideal! See you can test ride one. I'd be interested to know what you think and how it compares to the DRZ. Ride safe.
I recently bought a used DRZ, but the rally sounds pretty good. 6 gears and FI would be nice!
If my xt250 can do 80 (just barely) that thing should too. Even crf250 felt stronger than my xt but, I doubt it takes crashes like lil air cooled yam :-)
You must have the fastest XT250 in the world ever 😉. Unfortunately we don’t get the XT over here, emissions I guess? So we have to make do with what’s available. Thanks and ride safe!
@@PeakMotorcycles Lots of guys clocked xt to 83mph (couple claimed more) but, has to be in ideal condition. Especially with 200lbs on top of it. I made 83 only once. My speedo was +3mph on radar at 45mph so, I figure just around or slightly less. Now, after latest crash, falling off the ledge, my speedo shows 112 when I ride 40 and my mileage added 2k miles just by dragging it down the rocks. I think I'll keep it like that :-)
Did you notice any change in performance after 150 miles?
Not a sudden step. Over the first 600 miles I think there was a gradual improvement, or at least a perceived improvement, as it frees up. Clutchless upshifts (off the throttle) have got easier too and continue to do so.
@@PeakMotorcycles Got it. I wondered if there was anything to the idea that the ECM frees up some power after the first 150 miles.
Aye, a few people had mentioned that, and a step, but I didn’t notice it. Someone else had commented that the ECU could only store one map, and that it was unlikely… I can only speak to what I’ve found. Happy to be proved wrong!
@@PeakMotorcycles Sounds good. I pick up my Rally tomorrow. May have to call in sick on Friday. ; )
@@427walrus awesome mate! I think they should give you the day off. New bike days are always special!
What's the name of that green lane pal
Not sure it’s actual name, but it’s the one that goes from the car park at the top of the Goyt Valley and drops over into Macclesfield Old Road in Buxton. It might even be called Macclesfield Old Road 😉. I’m more of a Dark Peak person when it comes to names. Please accept my apologies.
@@PeakMotorcycles cheers iv just sold my 250l for a ktm 390 adventure .if you want a cheap shock upgrade try yss .i put one on mine 250l
.made a big difference
@@darrenwindle3592 thanks. Do you recall how much? I’ve seen spring options for £100 or so up to £500 for the Ohlins, I guess somewhere in between?
@@PeakMotorcycles around 250 yss
With forks try 15 weight oil before you do anything radical / costly
Thanks. Will do. There’s not a lot out there for the rally yet.
I'm not sure what I expect but I'm disappointed to hear that some people are feeling a buzzy vibration through the bars/pegs. Would you say it's obvious and you don't mind it or just a personal thing that maybe some people are more sensitive to?
I hadn’t really noticed that. Though, I ride a GS too so even my tractor feels smooth sometimes. I didn’t notice the CRF being particularly buzzy. Mind you, the rally has rubber inserts in the pegs and I’ve changed the bars, so perhaps that makes a difference.
Is that the same engine as the cb300r?…
Hi, I don’t have a CB300R, but I’m pretty sure it is the same engine. It’s pretty similar to the 250 engine too, but with a longer stroke to provide the extra 36.5cc, but every litre helps!
@@PeakMotorcycles yeah, I’m currently on a CB300R and I’m enjoying it bar a few quirks. Dropped down from a 1000cc as I don’t need all that during this crazy time, and the 300 is easily it’s equal for town riding, in fact I prefer it.
Nice video, by the way.
@@TheOverlordOfProcrastination the 300R’s are great. A fine choice! I also have a CB1000R which is serving as a dust gatherer during these crazy times. Though there is a light at the end of the tunnel and I can’t wait to get out on it!
1st n 2nd are short for a reason. Better off road.
Yup. They are ideal. And I think they were a bit a long on the 250L so a lot of people dropped to a 13T front sprocket, at the expense of top end. Honda have done a better job with the ratios on the 300 with the lower 1-5 and higher 6th.
Thanks for the ride. Nice bike but seems a little bit too street oriented. I'm interested in a comparison against the KLX 300.
That would be great! Unfortunately we aren’t getting the KLX300 here in the UK (I did call a local dealer as soon as it was announced to see if we’d be getting it.)
Don't get me wrong, I like your bike, and probably for not to much money if it was mine I would work on the suspension a bit, get a skid plate and possibly an exhaust add on. I bet the KLX will need some help too. The pricing is pretty good. I appreciate your Vlog.
@@larrylund1138 skid plate was ordered from new (dealer is still waiting on stock) and yup, the rest of the list is spot on. Am still waiting for most of the accessories to become available. I guess most will be similar to the 250 parts but the frame changed with the welded subframe so am waiting to see what comes out.
Told here in Australia klx 300 not road legal. Weird considering klx150 is legal
Nice to have videos without some awful soundtrack over the top and instead being able to hear the engine and wind.
🤣 thanks. I try to make videos without things that I dislike. So no music, no clickbait, if it’s a 3 minute video, it’s a 3 minute video, not 7 minutes of fluff and 3 mins of content. And though I did ask for likes and subscribes in the early ones, I find that annoys me on others so I stopped. If the content is good enough, folks will watch it. If it isn’t, they won’t. (Mind you, in some cases, maybe music is better than me waffling on… I try to cut it when I think I’m talking too much and not saying a lot, but some gets through for which I can only apologise. Thanks for watching.
Should've stopped on the dirt road and increased preload, we'd have gotten the answer.
Yup. I guess I’l have to go back. 😁
Pretty nice machine but Honda would do better to toss all that plastic body crap and offer serious off-road suspension components for a higher price tag
I guess it’s made for a dual sport market to a price, and you can avoid the ‘plastic body crap’ on the non-rally version. I’ve had a bit of a browse and I think you can do the Ohlins fork springs and rear suspension with remote adjuster for about £700 (US$950), with other cheaper options too, so that might get you closer to what you’re looking for. Even with that, it’s still cheaper than any of the proper Enduro’s, though I’m not sure that’s the market, especially here in the UK. There are relatively few dual sports available (mostly due to emissions restrictions) and I guess most people will get a CRF300L as a cheap means of transport, which has some off road ability. I’ll save up some pennies and do the suspension and see how it goes. Ride safe!
He is moaning everything is too low as I'm little think this bike will do me but not in red.
He?
Should pick up mine by the end of the month!
You live in an awesome place for a biker!!! (Where's the shopping btw?)
Excellent! Great to hear they are finally getting through. It’s not a bad place to live. As for shopping… there’s a farm shop 4 miles away which is open 4.5 days/week and a small Spar supermarket with a post office counter. Nearest petrol is 6 miles away. That said, plenty of pubs and cafes and we’re only 15 miles from Sheffield and 20 from Manchester, so it’s not as remote as the far side of Wales or the Lakes.