"What Has Changed? Absolutely NOTHING!" - Isabel Oakeshott On Tory MP Defecting To The Labour Party
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- Isabel Oakeshott believes "some dirty deal" has been done behind the scenes after Tory MP Natalie Elphicke defected to the Labour Party.
"What exactly has changed about Labour's policy on immigration since she castigated them on it? Absolutely nothing!"
Natalie Elphicke’s defection to Labour came as a shock to many in Westminster, given some of her previous comments and attacks on the party’s policies on immigration.
The MP for Dover hit out at “unelected” Rishi Sunak’s “tired and chaotic Government” and failure to deliver on his promise to stop migrants arriving in the UK via the Channel as she crossed the floor on Wednesday.
She expressed confidence in Sir Keir Starmer’s party’s ability to “tackle this issue of the small boats crossings”.
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British politics, absolutely rotten to it's very core.
Yes look at reform rotten and corrupt
Not half as rotten as Indian politics; British politics in comparison is positively high minded!
Yes, but which party are YOU blaming for that? The party that has been in power for 14 years?
None of these people in parliament don’t live in the real world,in there posh houses no money worries and don’t have to live amongst the immigrants that are flooding our country which is going to pot,I feel sorry for my kids and grandkids for their futures
You are not alone.
Another MP folowing the money
You mean she got 499 k like reforms Anderson
Oh what crap. Elphicke isn't going to be an MP after the election, she's not up for a Peerage, and she's voted with her feet based on her conscience. But the advantage of her defection to Starmer is huge. So as a FORMER lifetime Tory voter, now a fully paid up member of the Labour party, and campaigner, I think that the party was right to accept her. Note that it wasn't solely Starmer's decision, the party leadership vote on such matters. And as a matter of principle, why should anyone be prevented from changing their mind?
It just shows how much of a uni party is in parliament,if you can jump from one party to the other.Years ago this would be unheard of!
Winston Churchill did it twice.
Winston Churchill changed parties - twice !!!
Oh what crap. Elphicke isn't going to be an MP after the election, she's not up for a Peerage, and she's voted with her feet based on her conscience. But the advantage of her defection to Starmer is huge. So as a FORMER lifetime Tory voter, now a fully paid up member of the Labour party, and campaigner, I think that the party was right to accept her. Note that it wasn't solely Starmer's decision, the party leadership vote on such matters. And as a matter of principle, why should anyone be prevented from changing their mind?
If you want to be a pol-lie-tician... just get a Degree in 'stupidity' ....& join the Crimeminister !
Why with so much corruption are these criminals allowed to continue in politics?
Unless the public take a stance nothing will change. New laws are needed to hold them to account.
Two people talking sense. HOW DARE THEY?
Sense! Where is the evidence or facts to back up their nonsensical perception or narratives....None
That must follow two people talking nonsense.
Massively hypocritical though, isn't she going out with Richard Tice the former Brexit Party Deputy Chairman that coincidentally stood down every candidate so as to not contest against the Tories in 2019? It wasn't a problem when Tice and Johnson were doing dodgy deals but suddenly the right-whingers are pretending to have standards.
Why can t we send her to Rwanda - she no loss to Kent!!
Yes she’s as bad as the naughty Tory
HAPPY VE DAY BRITS 🎉
She's just trying to save her wages and pension, therefore needs to hold on to her seat, no doubt more dodgy dealings abound !!!!
Elphicke isn't going to be an MP after the election, she's not up for a Peerage, and she's voted with her feet based on her conscience. But the advantage of her defection to Starmer is huge. So as a FORMER lifetime Tory voter, now a fully paid up member of the Labour party, and campaigner, I think that the party was right to accept her. Note that it wasn't solely Starmer's decision, the party leadership vote on such matters. And as a matter of principle, why should anyone be prevented from changing their mind?
More illegal immigrants than members of the armed forces
The vastly overpopulated United Kingdom is in such a serious state of decline and decay in so many different areas and this mass invasion of immigrants is contributing extensively, detrimentally and destructively to the myriad of problems we as a nation are now confronted with and with a distinct probability of a labour government the situation will only become so very, very much worse.
Why, exactly ??
Can't hang flower baskets but Palestine flags ok?
A peerage plain and simple!
That is NOT going to happen. Guaranteed.
@@federicoprice2687 time will tell federico.
If the woman had any good ideas,
..I think we'd know by now!.
Of course shes trying to keep her job! SHE DOESNT WANT TO LOSE HER 90K PLUS EXPENSES JOB! If she put the people she serves FIRST she would keep her job regardless of whose party shes in
It doesn't matter which side she is on. Both parties are the same.
Good discussion here. I agree. They've all absolutely lost the plot.
In what way?
Sunak has abandoned every economic policy Boris stood on in 2019 that created his unwieldy coalition and moved toward a thatcherite free market model
Who the f cares as long as it hurts Rishi Sunak and the Tories
Er we all should as Liebour will be even worse .... Sir Beer Starmer doesn't even know what a woman is! I can't stand the Tories....
The world has NOT gone nuts. Only the UK. Absolutely embarrassing
I had to google up on Natalie Elphicke, and this was the EXACT MP who criticised Marcus Rashford for him focusing more on "playing politics" than playing football after what happened in Euro 2020, when Marcus was focusing on calling on the government to act over free school meals and campaigning against child food poverty. Perhaps if she actually acted like a politician and actually combat those kind of issues, she might not get as much stick by the public, especially members in her constituency.
Turns out she was right
He's been shite at football since then
Saint Marcus the numpty
Rashford didn't come up with that by himself. It was his activist PR consultancy.
Triple police, triple prison spaces, triple courts etc it can be done look at El Salvador although we may not need to be as aggressive but this has to stop quickly xx
Only took them 14 years to come to the same conclusion that most sane people understood from the beginning.
Precisely
I wouldn't trust Starmer as far as I could throw him
Compared to sunac he's mother theresa
@@Nick-fg4dq Starmer has just accepted a hard right Tory MP..........
Wouldn't Trust Tice or slippery eel sunak
I wouldn’t /and don’t trust ANY of them in parliament,they all piss in the same pot
@@OrganisedMudFully integrated with WEF
Some underhand deal going on for Elphicke MP
Can't have open borders and an NHS
Or welfare, pensions, housing, public services and a functioning society. These lefties are creating an awful future for themselves and any children they may have.
We can as long as Brits are at the back on the queue.
I love it when Tory client media lose their sh*t 🤣
They're losing their sh*t on The Guardian 🤣
Why is a supposedly right wing Tory joining Labour? A: Just another rat leaving the sinking ship.
Tory and Labour are exactly the same , no new news here, they both ignore uk voters
You will be sorry one day when you have nothing
@@christophercurtis2893 I've been hearing that for decades.
Labour taking defectors is only asking for a split party on every issue just like the Tory's.
This particular move across the floor seems highly suspicious
Why because those two talking heads say so?
What is suspicious is the reason as to why those two want it to be suspicious....
Maybe not suspicious but is is certainly bizarre.
She is not intending to stand for reelection so would lose nothing by staying in the Conservative Party and her views more closely align with Reform. She has spent five years attacking Liebour at every opportunity. This move just doesn’t seem to make any sense!
@@clmclmn21 I agree with you. The move is suspicious to me on the basis of her absolute opposition to the Labour Party!
I could have easily understood a move to Reform. What has she got to gain from siding with Starmer ?
Labour's policy on immigration is unrestricted open borders but keep it quiet.
It will come to light
Don't we have the right to know what starmer has said? It could be bribery or blackmail
Has the dog had a course.
That had me in bits.
All these English cities today are now minority white indigenous British.
London in 1961 had a 98% White population today thats dropped to just 35% White British
Birmingham in 1951 had a 99% White population today thats dropped to just 40%
Manchester in 1961 had a 98% White population today it's dropped to just 47% White British
Leicester in 1961 had a 98% White population today it's just 40% white with a majority 44% Asian population
Bradford in 1971 had a 95% white population today it's dropped to just 50%
Luton in 1961 had a 96% White population today it's dropped to just 32%
Liverpool in 2009 had a 91% white population today thats just 70% and decreasing more at an alarming rate.
Good..who is to blame for white british not breeding?😅
Isabel Oakshot's mates are in deep trouble so she shouts for PR!!! for the first time in her entire life!! God that is desperate
"TRUE 👍 COLOURS." ❤🇬🇧❤
Paying about 5% extra tax under Labour does make a big difference, even if the parties are too similar in other ways.
No, the RICH will pay more tax.
Come on TalkTV, why don't you defect also? Get on that bandwagon.
From Tory to Labour?... You mean WEF Uniparty to WEF Uniparty?
How is this discussing human still got a job Carl should be jailed for crimes against humanity!
One word “litigation”
Tories are finished
Blasted well hope so!
were does my vote go ? with labour open borders i cant get doctor or dentist and i dont want them living next to me ! i see them hanging about in groups outside schools yu cant miss them! at least the torys are trying
What a joke labour turning into. thankfully not In government
Love to see Oakeshott foaming at the mouth.
Why would Labour say their policy before the GE is called? This excuse is hilarious. They actually think people are stupid
Yes Sunak provides GE and Labour will provide a manifesto
Can't have Tories stealing Labour's polices again .
Labour tackling the gangs in Europe. This will be like the boats crossing the channel ; another one pops up and on and on it goes.
BS Jenrick...not building houses is 90% of reason for shortfall in housing!!
"They're both socialist"
Idiotic remark.
I don't think the public is switched on about politics - if they were the poles wouldn't show Labour in the lead.
They will have to find out the hard way, a big I told you so will be coming their way.
If they knew about politics, they wouldn't have voted Brexit.
@@garyh1572 If the majority of the public was politicly aware more would have voted for Brexit.
Ironic, a Tory complaining about a grubby deal being done by someone else
The reason Labour want to tackle the gangs is why should they make money instead of themselves.
"People who have done tiny things" - like Nadim Zahawi?
She is making.a point, maybe rishi will get it this time.🙄
Reform party won't win nothing oakshot 😂😂😂😂
The same was said about Liebour in the early 1900s…
No party can ever just pop into existence and start winning straight away. Building up takes time, decades in some cases and Reform is only three years old.
They will succeed in removing a f8k Tory party, that alone is worth its weight in gold because it means there is real choice in future elections.
Oh Yes They Will.
Many thanks TalkTV for speaking up for British public interest. Proportional representation to break the Tory/Labour oligopoly please
You do not speak for my interest.
I have to see and hear evidence or facts those two talking heads have provided none.
Isn't Oakeshott going out with former Brexit Party Director that, after some "dodgy backroom deal" stood down every single Brexit Party candidate that came up against an incumbent Tory seat in 2019? Tories suddenly pretending to care about standards in public life really do sound disingenuous in the extreme.
Regarding adversarial politics, there really shouldn't be any adversity when it comes immigration. It doesn't suit the left to have a socialist or mixed economy model thrown open to the world, and it doesn't help preserve the culture and constitution cherished by the right. How the pro immigration fringes of each party became the mainstream is an absolute scandal. Controlled borders should've remained a matter of consensus in a pluralistic system.
I was talking to an interpreter. He told me every single illegal, tells him that if they agreed to jump on the dinghy, they were promised a free brand new fully furnished house each! And thats exactly what they get! Plus, they aren't paying to get here. Not a penny.
The EU and UK government moved working class people out of their estates, refurbished them and handed them to EU resettlement scheme which are mainly east african migrants. I know because I've seen it
A new house ?? Absolute,total rubbish . And you know it.
@garyh1572 unfortunately not. The government are buying up huge mill conversions, full of apartments. And also new city centre apartment blocks. Filling them all top to bottom with illegals. Look it up. Pretty swish , 2 bedroom apartments, probably worth £150k each. All white goods and new furniture. Gym, the lot. Its been going on for years.
@@limpethead If the government hadn't let the queue build up, then we wouldn't be in this mess !!!!
Trust Izzie, she’s no low rent dishonest hack who would betray people.
How about it's not about immigration but Sunak abandoning every economic policy that Boris stood on in 2019
Net Zero - gone
Levelling up - gone
Social care - gone
housing and planning - gone
HS2/3 - gone
Boris didn't stand on a low tax free market agenda he was economically Liberal
This country law, not good
Keir, labour nonsense.
Tories advertising they will not stand next time is just a ruse to stop people contacting them because they will not be there next year anyway. Ashamed ti face their constituents as lives are being ruined as we speak.
I don't believe there is any difference between the Conservative and Labour parties, they are both left wing.
And yet these Lefties keep telling us these plastic Toreez are FR!!!
The reason Elphick left was the abandonment of the 2019 economic manifesto promises
Net Zero - gone
Levelling up - gone
Social care - gone
housing and planning - gone
HS2/3 - gone
replaced with Rwanda and an NI tax cut
Tory one down, Labour one up, good. Elphicke isn't going to be an MP after the election, she's not up for a Peerage, and she's voted with her feet based on her conscience. But the advantage of her defection to Starmer is huge. So as a FORMER lifetime tory voter, now a fully paid up member of the Labour party, and campaigner, I think that the party was right to accept her. Note that it wasn't solely Starmer's decision, the party leadership vote on such matters. And as a matter of principle, which tory shills blag on and on about, why should anyone be prevented from changing their mind?
They clearly think we are all stupid
Do these people in power realise that there grandchildren will suffer from the Islam beliefs
Starmer has already announced he will keep open borders and give an amnesty to all already here.
Their solution to the mass immigration problem they pushed/allowed, will be ID cards/biometric id, build back better, the great reset, its all planned.
No he didn't say that
tells you all you need to know ! yet, millions of people will go out at the next election and vote him in ! WE must be one of the thickest nations on the planet as we have learned nothing from the last 50+ years !
I can imagine no housing going to British people whatsoever once Labour are in and rents will go through the roof as most of these new properties aren't going to British people anyway, its a rare sight to see a British family in one, a real shock.
The past 10year my rent gone up 60pound a week it's a tory Council@@maccagrabme
She's got no principles
I agree. Oakshott has no principles whatsoever. She got a woman (Vicky Pryce) jail to save her own skin
Rishi's only prayer now is Proportional Representation. If he plugged for a referendum early Autumn ahead of the GE he could water down the Labour vote significantly. A number of anti-tory voters will swing towards the libs and greens instead. The (favoured demographic) and hard left vote would go to Galloway and the split of the right vote will then pay in full to Tory or Reform with no wastage where Labour profit from the split. The big scary risk of this gamble would be a lib-lab-green coalition would be taking us back into the EU faster than you could say Jack Robinson.
In The House of Commons.....Nothing Common there..... It’s like a tug of continual verbal war.....EXCEPT IT SHOULD NOT BE!?
Nurse . They escaped again
People are inclined to defect to what they are pretty certain will be the next government. Starmer desperately needs to change the balance of his own likely cacus to a somewhat more centerist position and reduce the power of the former Hackney CC and Corbynite faction which is still powerful in Labour just below the surface. It is also a move that takes attention off the Gaza issue when it is a major division and danger to Lanour. It is telling that some of the Blairite babes in Starmers team are giving it all for their man and totally supporting Elphiniks joining Labour
Rishi rejects crossing the floor to captain hindsight stammer 😊😊
YES LOTS THINK THE SAME, DIRTY DEAL 100%. STARMER HAS DONE ALOT OF THOSE I WOULD THINK. !!!!!!
Why would you think that ? What does that mean ? We don't want Tory defectors in the labour party. *Uck the Tories.
What on earth are you talking about for goodness sake the dirty deals the Tories have done totally eclipses anything starker has done
@@user-df9hs3hp5f HAHAHA.!! KNOW HIM PERSONALLY DO YOU.????
@@Changedmynameagain WHY DO YOU THINK STARMER WELCOMED HER THEN, 12MTHS AGO SHE WAS RUNNING STARMER DOWN BADLY. YET STARMER HAS WELCOMED HER WITH OPEN ARMS. ????
Love a tory spitting rhetoric and hypocrisy whilst doing the same
AC DC said it way back in the 70'S Dirty deeds done dirt cheap , nothin moved on since then , aye !
Politics are now rotten to the core,as regards invasion maybe it would be a good thing if only to get rid of jobs worth and unless politicians.
Utterly bonkers
She cant stand kier stammer that mp
Labour need to oust starmer
Policing by statistics
She will be given
The labour party needs to block this rudiculous crossing the floor or we want the sein fein mps standing in parliament.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Lol, what on earth are you talking about..
Really, watch George Galloway Moats tonight's episode, for the real info on this one and all world affairs,
Israel,the mouthpiece for Tice!!!!
Isobel keep pushing your boyfriends line.
Numbers not nationalities, Oakeshot. So why did let let in half a million ukrainians?
Another one who thinks he's too big to blow his nose during adverts. Probably never lets anyone else hold the doors open too.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Talk TV losing the plot...... And viewers 😆😆😆
Labour only appears to be doing so well because Tory voters are not turning out for local and by-elections. When it comes to the general election they won't be voting Labour, but it remains to be seen if they vote Tory, Reform UK or LibDem.
Wht is he back on tv?
I think sunak should defect allso...
Oh now thats got me wondering can a sitting pm defect🤔
Defected because she knows Tory's have no chance at next election, she is just trying to stay ,,
BUT ,, she has to win a seat, hope she loses all
She said that she is not standing next time!
Starmer gives me the creeps, I’ve voted Labour all my life, but I could never vote for Labour while Starmer is leader, he can’t be trusted and is in the pocket of the WEF!
And Sunak, Tories give me horror and the creeps as does Reform.
@@lindacurrie8817 they all give you the creeps, they’re a law onto themselves!
Cast aside your creeps and vote REFORM! 🎉
Boo hoo ;)
maybe she has decided that the brexit boat she endorsed is sinking, i would imagine lots of Tories are of the same opinion.
A party should only be happy to get rid of a 'revolving door' politician. Only creates problems.
Lee Anderson you mean
Of coarse there will be a dirty deal Dover is Twinned with Dodge City
Thats Dover, Delaware!1