'Always Been Against Idea Of Islamist Party In UK' | Rakib Ehsan x Andre Walker
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- Rakib Ehsan and Andre Walker debate the possibility of an Islamic party in the UK. Rakib Ehsan expresses concerns about the potential for divisiveness and otherness. Rakib also highlights the potential risks of marginalizing non-Muslims and undermining the integrity of British politics.
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A VOTE FOR LABOUR IS A VOTE FOR ISLAM
@Mary*1x3zs. Absolutely A VOTE FOR LABOUR IS A VOTE FOR ISLAM. STARMER TOOK THE KNEE = Muslim= Islam
Same in Australia
Tories have brought in ten times more Islam than Labour, they're just as bad.
That’s nonsense
@@bluedragon13063 No 🙈 it's openly done by Labour as it goes 😂😂
We already have a Muslim party it’s called the Labour party!
True.
You will never get a Christian leader in the Green Party . The SNP ,the Labour Party the Liberal Democrats or even the Tory Party but you will get Muslim leaders in all those parties
2 now, labour & Greens
No Muslims Dont Vote labour
And the Green Party.
no to islam no to labour, vote REFORM
If you want a Islam party don't leave one of the 43 Islamic countries you came from.
But then how would they outbreed and convert the other countries!? Lol
We don’t want religion in politics at all 😡😡
Good luck with that
@@Scott-up3bqOur system of government the common law, is non religious by virtue of it's being. We made common law to stop sectarian issues, because we've been here before, or have people forgotten the trouble between protestants and Catholics?
We need to get real and start laying down the law, accept our way of life or leave, if you will not leave willingly while you try to undermin our democracy, you will be deported for treason. We have the solutions to the issues we simply need the grit and determination.
@@Scott-up3bq Then the people must set up a new goverment without these idiots that are currently destroying our country
Especially when that religion is lsIam
Religion is intrinsically linked to politics. Politics is downstream from spirituality.
No way it's a anglo christian country not the middle east.
They do not realise what Brit women will do...
From boudecea.
@@mariewalmsley6143 exactly... 💯
It will be like the middle east if the people of Britain don't act soon.
Future is very scary indeed. Can't even imagine UK looking like Afghanistan...
How long would Our Rights and way of Life last if a Muslim Party ever got in? The call to prayer will be blasting from Westminster.
Look what Khan has done to Our Capital City, We need less Muslim Politicians not more. Britain for the British.
Why is this even a discussion? This shouldn’t be happening in the UK ever
I found out yesterday, that foreign nationals are allowed to stand in our local council and county council elections. If we don't change the law then we will end up by being ruled by foreign nationals.
In a liberal democracy one has the right to run on religious prerogative in an election.
@@usmanAli-br9qp NO
@@eliakimjosephsophia4542 why? That's how democracy works. Don't like it, don't vote for it.
@@usmanAli-br9qp Islam doesn’t believe in democracy though! It should never be in the west
I can't believe this is even being discussed. We must stop this nonsense now before we end up being like Iran.
and the left, (plus Harry & Meghan), are going for the Royal Family.
taqiyaa makes me not believe a word a muslim says.
Thank you, people don’t know about it and i think it’s ridiculous.
its all in your thick head
@@CheechChong-dq4jz nope, its in the quran
@@lisah9561 do you believe that Jesus is the prophet of God
@@lisah9561where?🤣 thats a shia belief do some research lol
Wish we had a Geert Wilders in England
We do his name is rishi sunak
Islamist political parties are the last thing free countries need for healthy development.
Within 30 years the UK will be majority Muslim, with all the horrors that nightmare scenario represents.
If UK become muslim country like Saudi Arabia they will be blessed, no rape , no alcohol , no sexualizing women and no gender confuse.
😂,what drivel
@@abdirsakabdullahi just a increase in incest, polygamy, no free will. Sounds great.
@abdirsakabdullahi And no freedom for women or freedom of religion. Remember what happened to that Saudi Princess who tried to escape?
@@abdirsakabdullahi Saudi became more modern , you should give example of afganisthan , yes they do rape , but it was not reported, if uk became islamic country it will became sudan , afgansithan , pakistan , poor third world country
uk public deserve a constitution of our own. so no matter who is in charge, the anglo's rights are protected.
Doesn't work like that, as the governing party could just change the constitution.
A Written Constitution is only VALID on the DAY it is WRITTEN - And by the willingness of people to follow it. The UK has a constitution - which is a living set of laws, institutions, which is founded on Judo-Christian Values. What you are asking for is Ethnonationalism to be baked into the Law of the Land...
We have one!!! FFS it's called the bill of rights 1688 that set up parliament and began the road to universal suffrage, it's based upon the Magna carta, and extension of that if you will.
Our constitution exists, we have one learn about it! I'm getting sick of seeing this "we need a constitution" lazy lazy arguement. We have one! If you want to stop this culturak suicide of our country I suggest you bother to read up on the facts and our history.
@@dgmapholisto5259I don't know about you but I'm getting tired of these people who don't seem to understand we have a constitution, or why it's the best form of constitution, nor the strengths of the constitution to deal with things quickly and effectively via acts of parliament.
Our education system has a lot to answer for.
We had one.. they repealed all but a few lines of it.. public never had a say in that mind.. how constitutional of the monarch to allow such a thing against the subjects..
Religion/ faith should not be in British politics
It has to be. Politics is downstream from spirituality.
That's very scary. Hope it doesn't happen in our lifetimes
I hope it doesn't happen full stop!
20years and counting
So glad I'm in Fremantle WA,at times it's nice to be 16,000 kilometres awy
@@Scott-up3bq Australia's not safe either. Look at what your woke government is doing.
At least we have some hope here. Reform UK is campaigning and Rishi Sunak is being forced to bestir himself, however minimally.
it's pretty much here already.
The concern is that for MusIim in Britain the Unma occupies a much higher standing than their “Britishness”.
It does. Do you remember that Muslim in the RAF that refused to go to Iraq? That is the problem with being too diverse. You get armed forces pr even police that won't do as they are needed to do for British interests
Exactly my point. But that is their agenda all along. Infiltrate every areas of society and then change it from the inside out until WE are all compliant with lSLAM!!! Eventually that extends to the point of force. Look at Lebanon. Then it guess from “we will not go to Iraq because it goes against the umma” to “YOU will not go to Iraq either … and if you try, we’ll use all necessary force to get you to comply”
I am sorry for the UK
we're in BIG trouble and I don't think people realise it !
We will end up like the Balkans .
And how would that pan out?
@@thechunkyone7118 Disastrously.
I feel more like Iran or Lebanon.
This should not be allowed, Britain are Christians, were not a biblical society that are still fighting religious and culture wars relating back thousands of years brought here to the west. I would think that any government with any ounce of sense would ban this ridiculous idea .that would bring horror and misery to our great land.
No chance of an Islamic party in the UK we are a Christian Country
You won't be for long if your people don't act soon.
Like Galloway is a problem.
The islamic politician will stand either in a main party, or independent, when there is enough, they will jon together, and you will have a muslim party in all but name.
The way the uk is going, only cival war will stop it, and once that starts, it will end with islam being band in the uk, and western countries.
There will notbe another world war, it just be cival wars every where, unless police, and mps do their job
im a christian and its going to happen....stop thinking the government are for us who follow christ......because they are not, londons fallen and it will spread, within 10yrs it will happen, an islamic party😁
No, we're not. The vast majority of people do not believe in the God of Israel.
Thank you for speaking sense. He is Moslem and not conftontational.
Mitch Obriens. Islamic party in England,not for the English that’s for sure.Starmer took the knee so we know who he supports dont we.,Not us.
This should be stopped without questioning or every1 should have a party for what they believe in if thats the case
Any muslim household should be limited to 1 vote. The man of the house decides all, hence ONLY ONE VOTE.
I'm not from the UK... is there a Catholic party or a Jewish party or any other religion based party?
No but there are Catholic groups within the major political parties and Jewish advocacy groups and organizations that influence political activities and policies.
@@artistreality Yeah its just natives that have lost rights.
@@uniquevideosUkpolitics is about money its not about being fare to 'the natives' money talks.
The UKs official religion is Christianity but religion and state are meant to be separate, and politics are meant to be secular…in practice I’m not sure that’s quite the case though…
Jews have their own police and ambulances and laws in London
Politicians will bow to any group for or against british values if it thinks that group is big enough to get themselves into office .
Starmer is evidence of doing and saying whatever he needs to do get votes its not about you and me and our daily struggles .
No Politician wants to get into power to help you,really ?
Its a personal power trip thats it.
For the same reason libdems were courting the polish immigrants in Liverpool for the local elections years ago. They thought they could use the large numbers to win. They didn't give a crap about the British working class in Liverpool
Asian king of England
Next 😂😂
No wonder millions of migrates coming to uk every year
It not rocket science
Edge -technology. What’s nonesense about being against an Islamic party..We aren’t Muslims.those muslims that do need to go to an Islamic country,we have enough trouble without saddling ourselves with more trouble.
What about immigration!
Is ASH not qualified to host a show on his own yet? 😂😂😂
The UK electoral committee only just denied the Party of Islam's application to establish one last October 2023. The refusal was due to their proposed financial scheme not meeting the requirements set out in electoral law. Probably couldn't explain where their funding was coming from. Don't think you can put Saudi and Iran on the application. Be a bad idea all round if they ever allowed them one!
Now we need Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh ,jewish....parties😂
Beware ....
Thank you for a level headed debate about serious issues that need to be said.
Religion and politics do not go together .if you choose to live in the uk follow our rules and our laws .dont try changing it because your welcome will become " Why dont you go back home, if you dont like our rules and laws."
where's the other guy? did he finally die?
We have too change the law, as it stands the law says that foreign nationals can stand as candidates in our elections. Only British citizens should be allowed to stand as candidates in our country.
Could it be that Politicians are distracting the people from the local issues by focusing on International Issues as a way to not get criticised.
That was a good interview
Taqqiya
We should have a special party for controlled immigration. Will that happen, no.
I said this for a while.
Where are the protests when the Russian regime 🇷🇺 or a Kremlin 🇷🇺 friendly regime like China 🇨🇳 or Serbia 🇷🇸 persecutes Muslims ☪️ like Chechens, Uyghurs, Bosniaks 🇧🇦, or Kosovars 🇦🇱?
You cannot have a religious party in a secular country unless the Islamic party is open to all faiths to stand at elections .period
The fundamental issue we face is the nature of Islam. Something we are all under massive pressure to bury our heads in the sand about.
As Sam Harris said, "the problem with Islam is not its fundamentalists, it's Islam's fundamentals." What Islam is.
And that is a problem for all Muslims. No matter how nice they are ultimately under the thrall, and beholding to, what Islam is in its texts. And can be held to account to that. And what Islam is, in its texts, is a ruthless colonising machine that demands a primacy of loyalty. Loyalty to a totalitarian, anti-democratic, tyranny - with zero-human rights in the texts for whole swathes of humanity. Gays, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. Christians are spared execution, but it is ordered are to live in subjugation. And pay protection money 'in humiliation." The texts say.
Loyalty to laws that are firmly rooted in the 7th century - loyalty to laws that revel in violence, and capital punishment for all manner of transgression against the rules of the ideology; leaving Islam; showing pictures of Mohammed; criticising Islam or Mohammed; being gay. I could go on all night.
The point is as the Islamist dictator of Turkey Erdogan said - "There is only one Islam." And he has shown how that one Islam rules - once it has power. Are we to wait till Islam has power in the UK to test the accuracy of this statement?
Living in Qatar is expensive so Ham..s leaders need to keep a spot light on this for donations.
TIP “Tribal islamic party”? This guy should be hosting a show with mehdi hasan for sure.
I'm not sure people understand Middle East and Arab politics. Its still very tribal with a definite split between Islamic fundamentists and more globalised world view. This whole war started it seems to undermine normalisation
Freedom isn't free.
The naive short-sightedness of the guest and hosts inhibit them from realising that an islamic party in the UK is only a matter of time.
I voted Brexit but Andre speaks a load of nonsense. We retained our own foreign policy when in the EU. This can be seen between the wide variance with this policy in UK and France.
We have several "Christian" parties.
Why do they move ??
Gazans support snd help Hamas against Israel snd Israel owes them gas and water??? Really??? What cut Egypt that broke gas from 1918 to 1867 and lost it in a war against Israel Egypt started???????
We cant have an Islamist party.
The oaths, the constitution and our God given rights cannot be given to us, protected due the beluef differences.
There is 3 types of Law in GB
, Common law, statutory law and customs and traditions.
We are a Christian nation living under Christian principles which is why GB used to be a great place to live and bring up our children and thats already being charged or taken from us.
If they want a Islamist party go to an Islamist state and start one and sort out thier issues using your customs and traditions.
Palestine needs some good leaders start there.
UK have already two islamic party one is Green one is labour
@mariewalmsly,6143,have you forgotten how they went an killed people in their own country, so those people's children will just stay there in U.K. Who they think they are?
Surprised the first question wasnt do u condemn hamass😂😂
What n easy and responsible choice every native has to make , come the GE , or are you going to sit on your backsides once again . Voting is personal - but think hard before doing it
Corbin and galloway also 💩
Exactly 💯
NOOOOO NOOOOOO NOOOOO AND NOOOOOOO!!!
Quietest I have seen Ash, 👊😂👍
Takiya. Ash is a bit of an numpty.
I think Worlds best political party should be BJP 🙏
Rip Christiañity , how heros failed
Read about Muhammad there perfect example first trust me
These two guys need to learn not to interrupt !
1 june
Vote Labour and help to;destroy our country.and be a traitor.
This guy talks sense t
The bold tv host did he die of cancer
Ash must be related to owners of Talk tv, he's so talentless & biased, absolute waste of space...
lol you couldn’t have picked a more fairer and subjective set of tools 😂😂😂 power to the people I needed a laugh.
Laurel and hardy must be making a packet from Zionist $$$$
the word british muslim dosent exist!
Myth 🤣🤣🤣.
Thats bad islamic party
As an English man i believe in democracy no matter the result.
Who are the hidden Edomite enemy within you can't mention, that opened up the floodgates ?
Wake up !
"So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him." (Isaiah 59:19). ,,, .. . .
Boring guest
How do these people sleep at night, what a s show
What talking on reality & the safety of the natives? You for real.
My ancestors was here in 1600s! What do you think they went through in history & nobody gave us the red carpet, they still don't either as working class native.
@@uniquevideosUk good for you
Amazing Ash not interrupting as he every time do when interview pro Palestinian guest
There not worth the air
he interrupts because they lie so much.
All propaganda campaign misleading and irrelevant talk show
No rational person can take talk tv seriously
Misleading how? Do you actually live in reality A fairytale us not reality 😂😂😂
@@bluedragon13063 no rational person can afford not to !
Beavis and butthead how do these clowns even have a show lol
F talk tv
It's facts we need to hear as native English! I think with my ancestors suffering from 1600s & having 100% English DNA, I have every right, I'm guessing you dont.
why, because they don't go along with what you want to hear ?
british are a minority in their capital city but we are not being replaced? really?
Is this some sort of sick joke 😡
BEWARE OF THE SNAKE.
British imperial went to colonized countries.....whats wrong same happening
And what about arab colonisation and white slavery?